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(Abc.net.au)   Australian stock broker's double life as a drunken bank robber catches up with him decades later   (abc.net.au) divider line
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2020-09-18 4:07:50 AM  
His street name was Nerd Kelly.
 
2020-09-18 5:44:26 AM  
"They were deliberate, intended and motivated by financial gain."

i've always wondered why people rob banks. so it's financial gain, eh?
 
2020-09-18 5:53:39 AM  
From the 'Related Article' linked at the bottom of TFA:

According to the court documents, when asked what he did with his robbery disguises McCarty explained he would "dump those and just walk back to the office".

"Often I'd be passing as the hold-up squad went the other way," he is quoted as saying.


It's really a pretty good cover. Nobody in the criminal world knew about the robberies so he couldn't be informed on, and the cops weren't looking for a stock broker when they were thinking about suspects.

But I have little doubt the Sydney cops of that era did put serious effort into catching him. They were infamously corrupt in that time and would have been keen to get their cut of the proceeds of the robberies.
 
2020-09-18 5:59:38 AM  

crinz83: "They were deliberate, intended and motivated by financial gain."

i've always wondered why people rob banks. so it's financial gain, eh?


Anymore the motivation is mostly stupidity.  Banks just don't keep enough on hand and accessible to make it worth anyone's while that's not delusional.  Pretty firmly convinced it's largely responsible for bank robbing becoming a "slightly above robbing the local 7-11" criminal activity, and attracting appropriate talent for that level.  So many things that are so much less risky that will bring in a hell of a lot more than that - and a lot smaller sentence should you get caught.

/except in Aus apparently
//3 years and a bit?
///I mean yeah he's stopped that and all but... eligible for parole in a year and some?  FOR BANK ROBBERY??
 
2020-09-18 6:00:08 AM  
McCarty currently works as a project manager and his boss has offered to re-hire him after any jail term.

His boss knows if he could get away with that for 40 years, he can get away with any manipulation and will never talk. By now he's probably stolen millions through much more official channels.
 
2020-09-18 6:29:42 AM  
One is a compassionless monster, motivated by greed and utterly unconcerned by the damage caused in the quest for money.

The other is a bank robber.
 
2020-09-18 6:32:45 AM  
You know who else was a drunken bank robber ?
 
2020-09-18 6:36:21 AM  
40 years later?  What's the statute of limitations on such things in the land down under?

/ being a little rhetorical, too lazy to gis
 
2020-09-18 7:25:19 AM  

RottenEggs: You know who else was a drunken bank robber ?


i've always suspected that russian comedian Yakoz Smirnov. am i close?
 
2020-09-18 7:59:45 AM  

RottenEggs: You know who else was a drunken bank robber ?


Carole Baskins?
 
2020-09-18 8:00:17 AM  

sinko swimo: RottenEggs: You know who else was a drunken bank robber ?

i've always suspected that russian comedian Yakoz Smirnov. am i close?


Naw - I mean bank robbers are messed up but they have some standards - they won't stoop to county fair appearances.
 
2020-09-18 8:02:17 AM  

crinz83: "They were deliberate, intended and motivated by financial gain."

i've always wondered why people rob banks. so it's financial gain, eh?


I only robbed a bank because Susy kept her Beanie Baby collection in deposit box 106, and her collection was better than mine.  Couldn't have that.

/Or did I...?
 
2020-09-18 9:14:47 AM  

crinz83: i've always wondered why people rob banks.


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2020-09-18 9:21:14 AM  

SpaceMonkey-66: 40 years later?  What's the statute of limitations on such things in the land down under?


I thought the same thing. Though, some states in the USA have no statute of limitations for felonies, so that wouldn't be unusual. Wyoming has no statute of limitations for misdemeanors, either!

CSB: During the rising crime wave in the 1980s, my local police department was making a drug bust at notoriously sleazy hotel. There was a shoot-out and a guy almost killed a cop but he got away. The cop recovered and continued to work. About 20 years later they had the guy they thought was the shooter for some other things and were interrogating him. They explained to him the shoot-out, told him that the statute of limitations meant he could never be charged with manslaughter but they just wanted to be able to close the books on that case. After conferring with a lawyer, the guy admitted it to the police officer he shot, saying "Look, it was just business, man. Sorry about that."
 
2020-09-18 9:24:24 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: I mean yeah he's stopped that and all but... eligible for parole in a year and some?  FOR BANK ROBBERY??


Australia actually has a functioning criminal justice system where they weigh factors such as likelihood of reoffending, rehabilitation (or rehabilitation potential), etc. They don't hammer people with obscene prison sentences just because judges get a semi on the bench for doing that.
 
2020-09-18 9:28:05 AM  

mrmopar5287: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: I mean yeah he's stopped that and all but... eligible for parole in a year and some?  FOR BANK ROBBERY??

Australia actually has a functioning criminal justice system where they weigh factors such as likelihood of reoffending, rehabilitation (or rehabilitation potential), etc. They don't hammer people with obscene prison sentences just because judges get a semi on the bench for doing that.


Really wasn't playing "Lock 'em all up!"  Armed bank robbery isn't exactly drunken yobbery - the tellers and such had to be thinking "Ok now I might well be shot the fark dead."  Yeah, I'd expect a punishment element there - because the guy farking terrified innocent randos for beer money.  Nice that he decided not to do that, but that doesn't make it "Oh you!" either.  He did some seriously bad shiat, and then concealed it for ages to avoid facing up to that.  He deserves a bit more than a year slap for that.
 
2020-09-18 9:52:45 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Armed bank robbery isn't exactly drunken yobbery - the tellers and such had to be thinking "Ok now I might well be shot the fark dead."


I have mixed feelings on that issue.

During the COVID-19 pandemic my governor was commuting a number of prison sentences to get older inmates out of prison. A notable number of people were inmates serving life sentences for armed robbery, often committed in their late teens or early twenties. I had to look it up to believe it. Turns out that Illinois, back in the 80s, did our version of a "three strikes" law where we sentenced people as habitual criminals for committing serious crimes. You could have a third felony and if it was armed robbery, people were going to prison for life without parole.

We now know that such sentences are counterproductive. We know that the human brain in males doesn't mature until in their 20s. We know that people make poor choices without thinking, often driven by poverty. And we know that there comes a point that a lot of people "age out" of committing crime. By now it is men in their 50s and 60s who are unlikely to reoffend, so does keeping them in prison accomplish anything? Largely, no.

Yes, their crimes were armed robbery. They committed a crime where they threatened serious injury or death to people in exchange for a watch, wallet, cash, etc. Yes, it's a serious crime. But it often is a crime where no one was physically hurt (but the threat was there, so there are psychological repercussions).
 
2020-09-18 12:04:10 PM  
Stock Broker/Bank Robber are not the same thing?
 
2020-09-18 6:55:09 PM  
I have to wonder why he just didn't deny it right up until now. If he wore disguises, video from security cameras back in the day is probably too fuzzy to matter and his appearance has changed so much in 4 decades that no one could ID him. Witnesses have probably died or couldn't make an ID now. He could even claim fingerprints on the notes are a bad match, or if it was a note on some random paper he could claim ignorance about where it came from other than saying "I threw out a lot of paper in my office back in the day. Maybe someone grabbed it from the trash or recycle bin?" Might as well take the chance that he'd be acquitted at trial
 
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