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(Salon)   Surveillance drones will be the eye in the sky watching you as the Alan Parsons Project becomes prophecy   (salon.com) divider line
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2020-09-17 8:34:58 AM  
So, where do we go from here?
 
2020-09-17 9:10:02 AM  
It's just games people play.
 
2020-09-17 9:15:10 AM  
Stop joking about it, this is Sirius.
 
2020-09-17 9:16:43 AM  

TommyDeuce: So, where do we go from here?


Keep wearing masks.  Flick off every drone you see.  Fight them when they start stuffing you into an unmarked van.  Hope for international intervention that we don't deserve.
 
2020-09-17 9:20:31 AM  
I, Robot may seem to be Lucifer but really I am just the child of Eve, my true creator.
 
2020-09-17 9:48:47 AM  
Yeah, I've been talking about this for years.

Remember the movie "Enemy of the State"?   Where they were following the Fresh Prince with satellites?  There were a couple of reasons why that wasn't anywhere near practical (even setting aside KH-11 satellites transmitting "CQ" in Morse code!).

But with drones, that kind of thing becomes very practical.   And I know you're thinking about that DJI drone you've messed around with, but we're talking about high altitude ones, with technologies like Gorgon Stare, which should scare the ever-living *CRAP* out of you.

It's true that you don't actually have a right to privacy while out in public, but as a practical matter, you've traditionally had that, or something akin to it.   It was pretty much impossible for the government to follow you unless it had a damned good reason to do so, because stakeouts were expensive.   You had to pay people to follow you, and even then it wasn't perfect.  You could slip away if you were good enough.

Today, with drones overhead able to track your move, and with you carrying what is essentially a location beacon in your pocket everywhere you go, it's almost impossible to remain anonymous.

And it doesn't cost the government anything if they want to follow you around, because no humans need be involved.   Even worse, they can go back in time and establish where you were at a certain date and time.

We have enabled a panopticon society so pervasive and intrusive that people like Lavrentiy Beria and Heinrich Himmler would have given their left testicles for.  And all that's keeping you "safe" is some pieces of paper that can be and are ignored when those in control feel it's necessary.
 
2020-09-17 9:51:18 AM  
Personally, I would have gone with Judas Priest, subby:

Electric Eye
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2020-09-17 9:59:04 AM  
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2020-09-17 9:59:27 AM  

BeesNuts: Flick off every drone you see.


You won't see them.

They fly too high, between 25,000 feet and 60,000, and they will have "active camouflage" to prevent you from seeing them visually:  https://www.wired.com/2008​/05/invisibl​e-drone/

They'll see you, though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARGUS-I​S
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgon_​S​tare
 
2020-09-17 10:08:53 AM  

BeesNuts: TommyDeuce: So, where do we go from here?

Keep wearing masks.  Flick off every drone you see.  Fight them when they start stuffing you into an unmarked van.  Hope for international intervention that we don't deserve.


If it comes to that, why would you wait for international intervention?

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more - we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
 
2020-09-17 10:18:02 AM  

dittybopper: Personally, I would have gone with Judas Priest, subby:

[YouTube video: Electric Eye]


God damn i love this song. I accidentally laugh reacted it because I thought it was a heart for a second.
 
2020-09-17 10:39:03 AM  
Our every step tracked by hypocritical Puritans.
 
2020-09-17 10:40:12 AM  
I thought the Alan Parsons Project was some sort of hovercraft?
 
2020-09-17 10:43:00 AM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Our every step tracked by hypocritical Puritans.


Don't want that to happen?  Toss your cell phone, and move to the country where it's not economical to station drones overhead.
 
2020-09-17 10:43:05 AM  

Rip_Rufus: I thought the Alan Parsons Project was some sort of hovercraft?


No eels were harmed in the filming of this movie...
 
2020-09-17 11:01:46 AM  
A bunch of Psychobabble if you ask me.
 
2020-09-17 11:46:01 AM  
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2020-09-17 12:53:59 PM  
"The sun in your eyes
made some of the lies
worth believing"

Is one of the greatest song lyrics about tainted love ever written in history: pure poetry.
 
2020-09-17 12:54:37 PM  
If you keep playing around with drones, You're Gonna Get Your Fingers Burned.
 
2020-09-17 1:28:45 PM  
Looking at yoooooou
 
2020-09-17 1:49:04 PM  
Nice job, subby.  Haven't thought of Alan Parsons Project for awhile.

Not touching the rest of this thread, though.  There's already a lot of a particular hue present and no reasonable discussion can occur.
 
2020-09-17 1:58:31 PM  

Kegluneq: There's already a lot of a particular hue present and no reasonable discussion can occur.


I disagree.  I'm willing to rationally discuss pervasive aerial surveillance of the populace.   No reason why we can't discuss it.

I mean, the only reason I can see why you might not want to is because you agree with it.
 
2020-09-17 2:35:23 PM  

dittybopper: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Our every step tracked by hypocritical Puritans.

Don't want that to happen?  Toss your cell phone, and move to the country where it's not economical to station drones overhead.


And when tyranny finally came to Americas shores, he bravely... retreated to the country and smugly watched his countrymen burn.

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2020-09-17 3:33:47 PM  
Electric Eye
 
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