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(NBC News)   Jeez, I wonder what happened in the last six months that would have made "Kill Obamacare" no longer a rallying cry for Republicans running for office   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2020-09-12 8:51:13 AM  
Funny, Facebook was reminding me of the 7 year anniversary of this pic yesterday..

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I guess they're finally done.
 
2020-09-12 9:09:11 AM  
The SCOTUS case is still out there waiting to be heard the week AFTER the election.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/19/supre​m​e-court-to-hear-challenge-to-obamacare​-week-after-election-day.html
 
2020-09-12 9:51:08 AM  
It's not that they're going to stop. They just don't think it's going to help to campaign on a policy of "let's get infected and see what happens" coupled with "lol, if you live, you're bankrupt!"
 
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2020-09-12 10:59:43 AM  
In Arizona, someone has started running ads on Youtube that are trashing on "The Public Option".  Sounds like they realize their rhetoric wasn't working.
 
2020-09-12 11:24:20 AM  
Hopefully, they have to vote for Obamacare at some point because screw them.
 
2020-09-12 12:12:37 PM  
It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.
 
2020-09-12 12:14:30 PM  

Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.


No, it was a Republican thing before Trump ever got involved.  It's why putting Romney up as a candidate against Obama was such a specifically weird move to make at the time, since he basically provided the template for Obamacare that they had spent years saying needed to be torn down.
 
2020-09-12 12:15:35 PM  

Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.


Republicans are the ones that named it Obamacare in the first place. It was supposed to be some kind of insult, but then Obama adopted it and it backfired
 
2020-09-12 12:17:24 PM  

Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.


57 repeal attempts beg to differ.

/ I lost count
 
2020-09-12 12:18:32 PM  
Yeah, well. The Bernie Bros said mean things to people on the internet, so now poor people don't deserve health insurance.
 
2020-09-12 12:19:00 PM  

nijika: Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.

57 repeal attempts beg to differ.

/ I lost count


Update: 63.
 
2020-09-12 12:19:05 PM  
Amazing how short sited Republicans are. Democrats can be as well, but when you have good intentions it doesn't come off as being selfish and cruel.
 
2020-09-12 12:19:26 PM  
Franklin Fowler said. "I think also the fact that so many people are losing their jobs, and therefore also their health insurance, sort of lays bare some of the challenges about employer-based insurance."

I hate these farking weasel words like "sort of plays bare", we've got farking 12 million people who lost health insurance due to unemployment since Feb. Our system is farking broken. Say it out loud & record it in print
 
2020-09-12 12:22:10 PM  
 
2020-09-12 12:22:50 PM  
They are finally going to do it right after the election anyway. If Trump loses it leaves more of a mess with people dieing for Biden to clean up, ha ha stiginit! If Trump wins well the dog finally caught a car and does not know what to do but f you die.
 
2020-09-12 12:25:33 PM  
Do you think that Republicans have finally admitted that repeal is a failure and Obamacare has expanded to several states in the last few years?

Nah, neither do I. It's just not the new shiny outrage.
 
2020-09-12 12:26:10 PM  
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2020-09-12 12:26:49 PM  

NeoCortex42: Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.

No, it was a Republican thing before Trump ever got involved.  It's why putting Romney up as a candidate against Obama was such a specifically weird move to make at the time, since he basically provided the template for Obamacare that they had spent years saying needed to be torn down.


It is the plan signed into law by mitt Romney.
Before that It is the plan that was hatched by the conservatives at the heritage foundation.
 
2020-09-12 12:28:25 PM  
Once granted, government handouts are near impossible to repeal. Both parties gutted the law the best they could. Like maligNancy herself, she and it are better left around and in the public eye, monuments to Democrat Party Over-Reach and Failure.
 
2020-09-12 12:31:05 PM  
Kill Obama care. It hasn't done jack shiat for me. 

I've been out of a job for 1.5 years now. I don't get any free medical insurance. In California, we still have this mandate, so I either need to buy insurance or pay the state thousands for not having insurance. 

fark you people.
 
2020-09-12 12:32:24 PM  

Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.


Were you born in 2017? Do your parents know that you're here?
 
2020-09-12 12:34:36 PM  
They did repeal the individual mandate penalty which was the only thing they could make even a feeble argument against.
 
2020-09-12 12:35:47 PM  
FTFA: Republicans appear to be conceding that attacking the Affordable Care Act is no longer politically advantageous.

And once it is again they'll go right back to attacking it. Because "conservatives" are not interested in governing the country... they're only interested in ruling it. And they always will be.
 
2020-09-12 12:37:28 PM  

rnatalie: They did repeal the individual mandate penalty which was the only thing they could make even a feeble argument against.


Technically, they didn't. They just zeroed out the penalty.
 
2020-09-12 12:37:53 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: Amazing how short sited Republicans are. Democrats can be as well, but when you have good intentions it doesn't come off as being selfish and cruel.


It's a package deal. Gather all the money. Who cares what that causes long haul. Let prices of health care rise so high it's a luxury. The market will correct it.  Have so safety net that won't effect me. It's all sort sighted. Not funding schools ignores that means having to waste money on prisons. Privatize prison ignore that it incentivizes arrest and convictions and judiciary rulings. Drill in Alaska and Yellowstone meh to to what that does. Drill shall ignore it's killing wells. Ignore it's causing Earth quacks and sinkholes.
Meh. Let's get rich. Tomorrow will take care of its self
 
2020-09-12 12:39:07 PM  

Dadoody: Kill Obama care. It hasn't done jack shiat for me. 

I've been out of a job for 1.5 years now. I don't get any free medical insurance. In California, we still have this mandate, so I either need to buy insurance or pay the state thousands for not having insurance. 

fark you people.


Weird. A 15 year old account Ive never seen before that doesnt understand thst the state in which it lives offers free  MediCal plans for the unemployed or poor.

Yet he can access the internet.
 
2020-09-12 12:41:00 PM  

FarkaDark: NeoCortex42: Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.

No, it was a Republican thing before Trump ever got involved.  It's why putting Romney up as a candidate against Obama was such a specifically weird move to make at the time, since he basically provided the template for Obamacare that they had spent years saying needed to be torn down.

It is the plan signed into law by mitt Romney.
Before that It is the plan that was hatched by the conservatives at the heritage foundation.


Yes, that is right. It was their own plan. And the individual mandate was added to it because Republicans thought that someone might get something for free, can't have that. They forced the individual mandate in there, then want to kill it because of the individual mandate.
Here is an article about it in that liberal rag Forbes.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothe​cary/2012/02/07/the-tortuous-conservat​ive-history-of-the-individual-mandate/
 
2020-09-12 12:41:29 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Once granted, government handouts are near impossible to repeal. Both parties gutted the law the best they could. Like maligNancy herself, she and it are better left around and in the public eye, monuments to Democrat Party Over-Reach and Failure.


Don't like hand outs? Support every one being able to buy Medicare. But, not even that has support.
🙄
 
2020-09-12 12:48:40 PM  
The GOP will probably start claiming that the Democrats will take away your "Affordable Care Act"  benefits if they win in November.
 
2020-09-12 12:53:15 PM  
Someone should remind voters that Republicans are in court right now trying to tear the law down. They may very well succeed, then we're back to 2009 all over again.

Can't wait for Tea Party 2.
 
2020-09-12 12:53:35 PM  
They may not be trumpeting it now, but you can bet that if Trump does win it will be top priority once again.

Curb stomp a Republican every chance you get; keep them from breeding.
 
2020-09-12 12:59:40 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Dadoody: Kill Obama care. It hasn't done jack shiat for me.

I've been out of a job for 1.5 years now. I don't get any free medical insurance. In California, we still have this mandate, so I either need to buy insurance or pay the state thousands for not having insurance.

fark you people.

Weird. A 15 year old account Ive never seen before that doesnt understand thst the state in which it lives offers free  MediCal plans for the unemployed or poor.

Yet he can access the internet.


Apparently he thinks that if you end up in the hospital with a $150K bill and don't have insurance you simply don't pay it? Therefore paying insurance premiums is a scam?

The terms for getting premium tax credits are pretty generous. Even if you don't qualify for Medicare most can get "bronze" plans for free which at least keep you from owing tens of thousands if something really bad happens.

I certainly don't put it past Fox News and their affiliate backwater rural news outlets to blatantly lie about the conditions of the ACA so people won't sign up for it. They have people thinking Obamacare and ACA are different, and that Medicare is both socialism and not socialism depending on the color of the skin of who gets it.
 
2020-09-12 1:00:23 PM  
GOP: We don't care if it works because it's branded after a c0l0red guy.

Everyone it benefits: Who branded it?

GOP: We did. But that's not the point. Soshilzmz!!!

Everyone it benefits: When do you all die off. Already?
 
2020-09-12 1:00:59 PM  

hammettman: Someone should remind voters that Republicans are in court right now trying to tear the law down. They may very well succeed, then we're back to 2009 all over again.

Can't wait for Tea Party 2.


????
I don't think the Democrats will ever run a African-American for president ever again.
America is just too racist.
 
2020-09-12 1:05:36 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: Amazing how short sited Republicans are. Democrats can be as well, but when you have good intentions it doesn't come off as being selfish and cruel.


Not to insult you but your pic looks like an ugly girl.
 
2020-09-12 1:09:49 PM  
In Georgia our Republican senator is attacking the Democrat candidates single payer plan because it would cost each Georgian family $3000 a year in taxes, failing to mention that if your insurance costs you $300 a month, which is modest for a family, you are talking about a savings of $3600 in up front insurance cost.  That is before you get into copays, deductibles, and out of network costs.
 
2020-09-12 1:13:09 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Once granted, government handouts are near impossible to repeal. Both parties gutted the law the best they could. Like maligNancy herself, she and it are better left around and in the public eye, monuments to Democrat Party Over-Reach and Failure.


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2020-09-12 1:17:07 PM  
I think you guys are getting confused. Republicans want to get rid of Obamacare, not ACA which their constituents are enrolled in and find useful.
 
2020-09-12 1:46:01 PM  

waxbeans: I don't think the Democrats will ever run a African-American for president ever again.
America is just too racist.


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2020-09-12 1:49:31 PM  

TWX: In Arizona, someone has started running ads on Youtube that are trashing on "The Public Option".  Sounds like they realize their rhetoric wasn't working.


There is the possibility that a public option or switching to a single payer system would suck and bankrupt us all.  However, the current health insurance system definitely sucks and is already bankrupting us all.  Therefor, I'm all in favor of changing to a different system.  None of this half measure crap we got with the ACA, though.  We need to go all in if we're going to fix this problem in any meaningful way.

Regarding the headline, I don't know why the Republicans would shy away from this topic.  They are openly refusing to provide any type of relief bill related to the pandemic mere weeks before the election.  That alone should make them as unpopular as shiat on a sundae, but here we are.
 
2020-09-12 1:49:37 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Dadoody: Kill Obama care. It hasn't done jack shiat for me. 

I've been out of a job for 1.5 years now. I don't get any free medical insurance. In California, we still have this mandate, so I either need to buy insurance or pay the state thousands for not having insurance. 

fark you people.

Weird. A 15 year old account Ive never seen before that doesnt understand thst the state in which it lives offers free  MediCal plans for the unemployed or poor.

Yet he can access the internet.


He comments a couple of times every couple of years.  One pump chump content.
 
2020-09-12 1:50:52 PM  

Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.


Nope. The Republicans have been gunning for it since 2009. Even though it's more their plan than anything else.

The 50+ "Repeal Obamacare" votes were pure pandering, because once they actually became the majority with Trump in office, they stopped.

In fact, Democrats should put them on the defensive and state that the Republicans want to repeal it and force Republicans to either be the bad guys or promise not to, and alienate their base.
 
2020-09-12 1:51:09 PM  

GardenWeasel: waxbeans: I don't think the Democrats will ever run a African-American for president ever again.
America is just too racist.

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VP isn't POTUS.
ALSO it's a dare. We're trying to gum up the Right's law and order stance. She takes the wind out of that sail. She is law and order as much as any Right wingy.
This is exactly why Bill Clinton put welfare mom's to work. Which lead to the demand of 15$ an hour.
Chess not checkers.
 
2020-09-12 1:55:19 PM  

fzumrk: TWX: In Arizona, someone has started running ads on Youtube that are trashing on "The Public Option".  Sounds like they realize their rhetoric wasn't working.

There is the possibility that a public option or switching to a single payer system would suck and bankrupt us all.  However, the current health insurance system definitely sucks and is already bankrupting us all.  Therefor, I'm all in favor of changing to a different system.  None of this half measure crap we got with the ACA, though.  We need to go all in if we're going to fix this problem in any meaningful way.

Regarding the headline, I don't know why the Republicans would shy away from this topic.  They are openly refusing to provide any type of relief bill related to the pandemic mere weeks before the election.  That alone should make them as unpopular as shiat on a sundae, but here we are.


ACA was the mandate in exchange for not barring pre-existing conditions.

End of the story.

Why people have an issue with it is beyond comprehension.

The millionaires in the healthcare industry and the baby hundredaires  in the healthcare industry are never going to give up that money they will actually give crooked politicians that money before they give up their lifestyles.

hence a mandate in exchange for not barring pre-existing conditions is as good as it's ever going to get in America.


The only other compromise that has a snowball's hell in chance is Medicare available for purchase by all.
 
2020-09-12 2:32:15 PM  

Alphax: Funny, Facebook was reminding me of the 7 year anniversary of this pic yesterday..

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I guess they're finally done.


Haha. Hell no, they are just taking a break to grab a new bottle.
 
2020-09-12 2:33:29 PM  

BullBearMS: Weatherkiss: Yeah, well. The Bernie Bros said mean things to people on the internet, so now poor people don't deserve health insurance.

Don't worry.  The Centrists will fold.  They always do.

On the eve of a Democratic National Convention taking place as millions lose health care coverage, the health care industry is launching a new ad campaign pressing Democrats to back off the party's already compromised health care promises. That pressure seems to be having its intended effect on Capitol Hill as congressional aides say the party will not push the initiative if Biden wins. The signs of retreat come as health care industry profits are skyrocketing and the industry's campaign cash has flooded into Democratic coffers.


My computer got syphilis from that link, didn't it? What the hell kind of source is that?
 
2020-09-12 2:44:12 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Begoggle: It was never a Republican rallying cry.
It was a Trump cry because it has "Obama" in the name.

Republicans are the ones that named it Obamacare in the first place. It was supposed to be some kind of insult, but then Obama adopted it and it backfired


/username checks out
 
2020-09-12 2:53:05 PM  
Bizarro mailers from the GOP Rep and Senator both are all about "affordable healthcare" with nothing else, as if they invented it.

The Senate has just weeks between now and early election times to ram thorough a single payer or other left of Democrat bill -- that's about the only restitution that would make the country forget how against they were for Americans and their doctors be able to have their health without bankruptcy.
 
2020-09-12 2:58:05 PM  
Something that affected them personally?

Just a guess based on every other time that's happened.
 
2020-09-12 3:18:33 PM  

CaptainFatass: BullBearMS: Weatherkiss: Yeah, well. The Bernie Bros said mean things to people on the internet, so now poor people don't deserve health insurance.

Don't worry.  The Centrists will fold.  They always do.

On the eve of a Democratic National Convention taking place as millions lose health care coverage, the health care industry is launching a new ad campaign pressing Democrats to back off the party's already compromised health care promises. That pressure seems to be having its intended effect on Capitol Hill as congressional aides say the party will not push the initiative if Biden wins. The signs of retreat come as health care industry profits are skyrocketing and the industry's campaign cash has flooded into Democratic coffers.

My computer got syphilis from that link, didn't it? What the hell kind of source is that?


The horror of progressive thought almost got you?

Next you'll start believing that your access to healthcare shouldn't depend on your employer.
 
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