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(Slate)   "Dear Stoya: I've been reading your column; because of that, I have come to the conclusion I never want to have sex with a feminist. They sound like a pack of uptight authoritarians looking for a reason to ruin everyone's sexual happiness." OK, incel   (slate.com) divider line
    More: Dumbass, Sexual intercourse, Human sexual behavior, Gender, Women's rights, Feminism, Human sexuality, Women's suffrage, Sexism  
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2020-09-07 12:55:59 AM  
Relationships are the art of getting along. In a good relationship you are both better than you would be apart.

/ People are not labels and if you met a person who actually is a label then you should probably avoid them because that is messed up.
 
2020-09-07 1:12:14 AM  
To be fair, the term "femiNazi" exists for a reason. I think their equivalent (incels) need a better term... like Microsofts.
 
2020-09-07 1:55:12 AM  
If a woman won't respect herself, why would she respect you?
 
2020-09-07 2:27:43 AM  
It's not feminists, writ large, pal.  You don't want to date anyone who writes to Stoya.  Which is actually pretty wise.
 
2020-09-07 2:29:48 AM  

Naido: It's not feminists, writ large, pal.  You don't want to date anyone who writes to Stoya.  Which is actually pretty wise.


And maybe this goes without saying: you can't really "date" imaginary people, anyway

/masturbation is not "dating"
 
2020-09-07 4:07:50 AM  
This guy's a moron.  I don't read Stoya at all and I've come to the conclusion I'll never have sex with any woman, feminist or not.
 
2020-09-07 4:25:11 AM  
This clown assumes that a feminist would want to have sex with him.
 
2020-09-07 5:00:44 AM  

Jake Havechek: This clown assumes that a feminist would want to have sex with him.


Well, duh, feminists don't want to have sex with men, period! Hurr, durr, hurr, Fems are lesbians...durr.
 
2020-09-07 5:05:27 AM  
Whereas most authoritarian dbags choose careers where they can bully people around, like the police, the military, and teaching, there are definitely other niches where the authoritarian dbag can operate.

One of them is the normally progressive institution of feminism.  Give the tenacity and fervor of political movements including feminism, it's not hard for the authoritarian dbag to take advantage of this and twist the institution and its members to suit their own sick need to bully.  Such is the case with the letters this guy cites.

The guy is himself a dbag though, as he cherry-picks the very worst examples of dbag authortarians exploiting feminism and presents it as representative of all feminists.
 
2020-09-07 5:49:27 AM  

Naido: Naido: It's not feminists, writ large, pal.  You don't want to date anyone who writes to Stoya.  Which is actually pretty wise.

And maybe this goes without saying: you can't really "date" imaginary people, anyway

/masturbation is not "dating"


A Google search for 'waifu' returns 30 million hits. Based on that I would say that at least some people believe that you can.
 
2020-09-07 5:51:46 AM  
Well duh.  When the average man, upon hearing the word 'feminist', pictures a humorless, militant ball-chopper, that tends to color things a bit.
 
2020-09-07 6:58:11 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Well duh.  When the average man, upon hearing the word 'feminist', pictures a humorless, militant ball-chopper, that tends to color things a bit.


I'm well married these days but in the distant past found feminists to be much more fun in the sack than those who felt women were the inferior sex. They knew what they wanted, as long as they got that they also generally gave back and they were keener to come back for more.

My tip to the young hetero blokes of today is learn to listen respectfully, google some of the better-regarded cunnilingus techniques, develop a bit of educated conversation and you'll have a more memorable youth and become a more educated and open-minded guy than "the average man" with their anti-feminist views.
 
2020-09-07 8:23:36 AM  

Aussie_As: I'm well married these days but in the distant past found feminists to be much more fun in the sack than those who felt women were the inferior sex. They knew what they wanted, as long as they got that they also generally gave back and they were keener to come back for more.


Came (heh) here for this. Feminists know what they want, and that's always gonna be better than someone who lies there like a dead thing waiting for you to run things. It's like hot librarians. They're not just hot because of glasses and a pencil skirt, it's because you know they've read up on sex stuff and know what's possible.

/Dated a librarian, but married an editor. Correct me, bay-bee!
 
2020-09-07 8:31:41 AM  

Alphax: If a woman won't respect herself, why would she respect you?


They don't want a woman with self respect.  They want a walking fleshlight: warm and ready to use whenever the mood strikes them.

Incels live in a world of frustrated entitlement.  They imagine that feminism ruined women -- that before Women's Rights, any man could just have any woman.  Now women want excessive things like 'consent' before a man can have the vagina that should be his by right.  And the fact that society supports a woman's right to refuse sex means that women now run the world, so ignore all that whining about wage disparities.  Women have all the control when it really matters -- when he wants to tap it and she doesn't.

Never mind that in societies where women can't consent, virginity is a valuable thing.  Never mind that it's not actually a sexual free-for-all but a world where a prospective mate has to meet DAD's standards.  Never mind that it's even more explicitly a competition between "Alpha" males and these poor frustrated schmucks, since men can often take multiple wives.  They're convinced that there was a pre-feminist fantasyland where any woman they desired could have been theirs for the asking, but those damn feminists ruined everything.
 
2020-09-07 8:34:17 AM  

Chariset: Alphax: If a woman won't respect herself, why would she respect you?

They don't want a woman with self respect.  They want a walking fleshlight: warm and ready to use whenever the mood strikes them.

Incels live in a world of frustrated entitlement.  They imagine that feminism ruined women -- that before Women's Rights, any man could just have any woman.  Now women want excessive things like 'consent' before a man can have the vagina that should be his by right.  And the fact that society supports a woman's right to refuse sex means that women now run the world, so ignore all that whining about wage disparities.  Women have all the control when it really matters -- when he wants to tap it and she doesn't.

Never mind that in societies where women can't consent, virginity is a valuable thing.  Never mind that it's not actually a sexual free-for-all but a world where a prospective mate has to meet DAD's standards.  Never mind that it's even more explicitly a competition between "Alpha" males and these poor frustrated schmucks, since men can often take multiple wives.  They're convinced that there was a pre-feminist fantasyland where any woman they desired could have been theirs for the asking, but those damn feminists ruined everything.


Can you imagine having to confront your own inadequacy as a human being instead of just blaming feminists?
 
2020-09-07 8:51:41 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Relationships are the art of getting along. In a good relationship you are both better than you would be apart.

/ People are not labels and if you met a person who actually is a label then you should probably avoid them because that is messed up.


Thread over.
 
2020-09-07 9:43:04 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Relationships are the art of getting along. In a good relationship you are both better than you would be apart.
/ People are not labels and if you met a person who actually is a label then you should probably avoid them because that is messed up.


Everybodys a label.  We're all labels now, and you have to pick a side, and you have to tell everyone about it, so that they know who you are.

You got your date by combing through hundreds of internet profiles who were written by people describing themselves.  Using labels.  Brands.  Status symbols.  Cultural markers, like a Harley or golf clubs.

But dont label people.  It dehumanizes us.

/somebodies doing it wrong.
 
2020-09-07 9:46:03 AM  
I was reading this thread, and decided I don't want a threesome with Scarlett Johansson and Morgot Robbie.

In case anyone was wondering why I haven't, that's why.
 
2020-09-07 9:47:50 AM  
"Feminism" is just one of those words. Like  "liberal". It's a flash reaction. Everybody wants the stuff associated with liberalism or feminism. They're just shiats and reject the word.
 
2020-09-07 9:48:42 AM  

Naido: And maybe this goes without saying: you can't really "date" imaginary people, anyway

/masturbation is not "dating"


Well that leads to an important question that I don't think we've established.

Do all of the fake people in Slate columns exist in the same universe?
 
2020-09-07 9:51:35 AM  

yakmans_dad: "Feminism" is just one of those words. Like  "liberal". It's a flash reaction. Everybody wants the stuff associated with liberalism or feminism. They're just shiats and reject the word.


If that were actually true, the word would be completely meaningless since it would then describe everyone.

Whereas in reality, there are several groups that wholly embrace the word, but have completely incompatible definitions of it.
 
2020-09-07 10:35:20 AM  

Naido: Naido: It's not feminists, writ large, pal.  You don't want to date anyone who writes to Stoya.  Which is actually pretty wise.

And maybe this goes without saying: you can't really "date" imaginary people, anyway

/masturbation is not "dating"


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2020-09-07 10:51:16 AM  
Did you all notice that 2nd line in the heading?...

"I Will Never Date a Feminist Again, for the Following Reasons
I blame your column."

Obviously spoken by a person who deals well with the world.
 
2020-09-07 11:29:59 AM  
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2020-09-07 11:38:28 AM  

The_Philosopher_King: [Fark user image 550x784]


Is that a much younger Kellyanne Conway?
 
2020-09-07 11:52:25 AM  

BMFPitt: Naido: And maybe this goes without saying: you can't really "date" imaginary people, anyway

/masturbation is not "dating"

Well that leads to an important question that I don't think we've established.

Do all of the fake people in Slate columns exist in the same universe?


I think maybe you and I should discuss a television script.

/same *universe*, hell.  I'm thinking same apartment complex
 
2020-09-07 11:56:43 AM  

KarmicDisaster: The_Philosopher_King: [Fark user image 550x784]

Is that a much younger Kellyanne Conway?


I was thinking like a Dollar Store Ellen Barkin.

/I don't know who that is
 
2020-09-07 12:25:08 PM  

BMFPitt: yakmans_dad: "Feminism" is just one of those words. Like  "liberal". It's a flash reaction. Everybody wants the stuff associated with liberalism or feminism. They're just shiats and reject the word.

If that were actually true, the word would be completely meaningless since it would then describe everyone.

Whereas in reality, there are several groups that wholly embrace the word, but have completely incompatible definitions of it.


It's not meaningless, but it's actual meaning(s) is(are) over-ridden by innuendo.
 
2020-09-07 12:35:22 PM  
The main problem with this guy is that he actually believes the 'letters to Stoya' are sent in by real people.
 
2020-09-07 12:51:10 PM  
Enh.
"Feminists" aren't as much fun as witches, but way better than Boston Irish.

/Wiccans, because Christian women are just to repressed, anxiety ridden, and passive/aggressive.
 
2020-09-07 2:18:27 PM  

OK So Amuse Me: The main problem with this guy is that he actually believes the 'letters to Stoya' are sent in by real people.


But if no one writes letters to Stoya, then he's a no one that doesn't exist!

*poof*

/problem solved
 
2020-09-07 2:54:37 PM  
We should be listening more to the sex-friendly right who have spent the last few weeks outraged that pussies are not dry enough.
 
2020-09-07 2:58:01 PM  

puffy999: To be fair, the term "femiNazi" exists for a reason. I think their equivalent (incels) need a better term... like Microsofts.


MRAts?
 
2020-09-07 5:59:59 PM  
It's as useful as saying that because somebody lives in a particular state, they're obviously a screaming Liberal or a howling Right-Winger.
Because there are two kinds of people in this world: Those who bifurcate and those who don't.
 
2020-09-08 8:18:21 AM  

BMFPitt: yakmans_dad: "Feminism" is just one of those words. Like  "liberal". It's a flash reaction. Everybody wants the stuff associated with liberalism or feminism. They're just shiats and reject the word.

If that were actually true, the word would be completely meaningless since it would then describe everyone.

Whereas in reality, there are several groups that wholly embrace the word, but have completely incompatible definitions of it.


It's a neutral term, same as cultural appropriation and toxic masculinity. They just describe a concept. The reason some people think that the terms themselves are controversial is they come to conversation with a pre-loaded antipathy to the bundle of negative things in their own minds that the have labeled with one of these neutral terms.
 
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