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2020-09-03 8:28:56 PM  
No. I refuse to tow the line. fark yourself.
 
2020-09-03 9:07:03 PM  

NewportBarGuy: No. I refuse to tow TOE dammit the line. fark yourself.

 
2020-09-03 9:07:30 PM  
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2020-09-04 12:24:39 AM  
Say Trump loses

And actually leaves office (peacefully or in the back of a van, take your pick)

Imagine being the president after that, and ever, and I mean f*ckin' EVER, feeling like political opponents who lied and covered and equivocated and rationalized and deflected and projected and even in the face of the most egregious offenses always made sure to stop just short of actually doing anything about it get to turn around and tell you about being a nation of laws and traditions when they don't like what you're doing.

Imagine giving the slightest little shiat about accountability after the last four years of fingers in their ears screaming "WHADDABOUT HILAREEEEE"

There's not a single one among them that shouldn't be buried up to their necks in shiat while folks pay admission to piss on their heads.

But hilariously, should the transition of power occur, it'll actually happen. Somehow, Biden will hold himself accountable to the laws and traditions even as Republicans in Congress will spend the next four years smearing their shiat on the walls and say "why would Biden do this?"

Even if government agencies are no longer political obfuscation and propaganda tools next year, don't expect the weird shiat to stop.
 
2020-09-04 12:27:49 AM  
244 years is a pretty impressive run for a democratic republic. Almost a quarter of a millennium. Take some comfort in that.
 
2020-09-04 12:31:36 AM  
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Head of the FEC retweeting the RNC and Trump's claim that the RNC blew the DNC out of the water.

If it makes you feel any better Trump has crippled the agency by depriving it of a quorum, so it's not like the FEC can actually investigate anything this campaign cycle. Small victories.
 
2020-09-04 12:31:52 AM  

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: should the transition of power occur, it'll actually happen. Somehow, Biden will hold himself accountable to the laws and traditions


The only way to do it, is to criminally prosecute every Trump appointee, and impeach every judge he put on a  bench.

And close loopholes by passing laws for everything that a Republican said was "tradition" or an "unwritten rule."

Which is hard to do, because the written meaning of the word "subpoena" is an order to appear that is backstopped by criminal punishment. That is not an unwritten rule, and it is not a tradition, it is literally what a subpoena is. It is written in the word "subpoena" and not some kind of gentlemen's agreement. But now a court has ruled that a subpoena from a senate committee is unenforceable because "there is no law that says they can enforce it." which is nonsense.

So, what I am saying is, every single time they claimed a rule was an unwritten rule, so far as I can tell, it was written. Like the word subpoena means "enforceable order backstopped by criminal punishment". So trying to close "loopholes" will result in egregiously redundant laws. For example, if they write a law that says, "Senate subpoeans are backstopped by criminal punishments" then the meaning of "subpoena" in every other instance will be erased, because those instances won't have that redundant clause.

So sometimes, by closing loopholes, Biden might in fact fark up everything more.

The only way to get around that, is instead of closing the so-called loopholes, imprison the people who ruled that the loopholes existed at all. impeach and imprison Trump's judges.

Only then can any chance of the rule of law be restored by the next president after Trump. I do not think there is any other way.
 
2020-09-04 12:33:54 AM  

shpritz: 244 years is a pretty impressive run for a democratic republic. Almost a quarter of a millennium. Take some comfort in that.


The gutless frakers haven't won it yet son. If they want to kill the republic they are going to have to pay and I think even redcaps will flinch when that butcher's bill come due.
 
2020-09-04 12:42:41 AM  
Wasn't there some smart guy who said something about how democracy could only last until the people realized they could vote themselves money, or some such bullshiat?  But it turns out it can only last until the rich suck the last drips of moisture from the husk of their desiccated country before moving on to a new carcass..
 
2020-09-04 12:53:42 AM  

RedComrade: shpritz: 244 years is a pretty impressive run for a democratic republic. Almost a quarter of a millennium. Take some comfort in that.

The gutless frakers haven't won it yet son. If they want to kill the republic they are going to have to pay and I think even redcaps will flinch when that butcher's bill come due.


If an incompetent, lazy moron like Trump can bend almost every one of your institutions to his will this easily you have much deeper issues than the redcap infestation.
 
2020-09-04 12:56:29 AM  
Chad Wolf needs to be thrown into Trump's dumpster fire.
 
2020-09-04 12:59:01 AM  
Every? Not really, and the afge is against him.
 
2020-09-04 12:59:33 AM  

shpritz: RedComrade: shpritz: 244 years is a pretty impressive run for a democratic republic. Almost a quarter of a millennium. Take some comfort in that.

The gutless frakers haven't won it yet son. If they want to kill the republic they are going to have to pay and I think even redcaps will flinch when that butcher's bill come due.

If an incompetent, lazy moron like Trump can bend almost every one of your institutions to his will this easily you have much deeper issues than the redcap infestation.


One thing, the Legislative needs to take back its power.  They abdicated too much to the Executive, just so they can deny responsibility.  AUMF, for example.
 
2020-09-04 1:01:31 AM  

FnkyTwn: Chad Wolf needs to be thrown into Trump's dumpster fire.


I hated him in Pary of Five.  No wait, I'm thinking of Law&Order.  Dum Dummmm.
 
2020-09-04 2:10:46 AM  

Grungehamster: [Fark user image 425x546]

Head of the FEC retweeting the RNC and Trump's claim that the RNC blew the DNC out of the water.

If it makes you feel any better Trump has crippled the agency by depriving it of a quorum, so it's not like the FEC can actually investigate anything this campaign cycle. Small victories.


This is fine.
 
2020-09-04 5:21:03 AM  

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: There's not a single one among them that shouldn't be buried up to their necks in shiat while folks pay admission to piss on their heads.


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2020-09-04 6:02:28 AM  
I'm really having a hard time understanding how a person who is so terrible at running a business can somehow manage to get a massive bureaucracy under his thumb. Did the National Enquirer really have that many blackmail pictures to use? Were there really this many people in positions of power just pining for a dictator to show up?
 
2020-09-04 6:24:12 AM  

mjjt: NewportBarGuy: No. I refuse to tow TOE TOH the line. fark yourself.


/pet peeve
//tugs braid
///sniffs
 
2020-09-04 6:39:56 AM  

Mr. Tweedy: I'm really having a hard time understanding how a person who is so terrible at running a business can somehow manage to get a massive bureaucracy under his thumb. Did the National Enquirer really have that many blackmail pictures to use? Were there really this many people in positions of power just pining for a dictator to show up?


Replace Enquirer with Russia and add a bunch of people waiting since Nixon to take over America.
 
2020-09-04 7:29:58 AM  
Ironically, perhaps, the only branch I trust is the Military. They took an oath to defend the Constitution, not Trump. And they still believe deeply in the concept of honor (most of 'em, anyway.).
 
2020-09-04 7:48:04 AM  

Mr. Tweedy: I'm really having a hard time understanding how a person who is so terrible at running a business can somehow manage to get a massive bureaucracy under his thumb. Did the National Enquirer really have that many blackmail pictures to use? Were there really this many people in positions of power just pining for a dictator to show up?


Simple, there is no republican party anymore.  It the party of Trump.  If Republicans in DC push against him, they lose support back home.  So all those spineless asshats will let him do what he wants with the consolation prize that they get Trump to sign all the tax cuts and deregulation bills into law.
 
2020-09-04 7:50:31 AM  

Mr. Tweedy: I'm really having a hard time understanding how a person who is so terrible at running a business can somehow manage to get a massive bureaucracy under his thumb. Did the National Enquirer really have that many blackmail pictures to use? Were there really this many people in positions of power just pining for a dictator to show up?


This. He's inept. Yes, he has a reptilian instinct for playing to fear, but I think the brainwashing that has been underway just allowed anyone to slide into the right-wing place of power. What's unreal to me is watching in real time politicians who I would have disagreed with but who I respected as having integrity fold and cave to a one. What the hell is behind that?

People are presiding over the intentional dismantling of a country, and 4 years ago that was unthinkable, to each of them as well, I think.

I find it fascinating, even as I find it terrifying.

So vote Democrat up and down the ballot, because this cancer needs to be excised.
 
2020-09-04 7:56:26 AM  

FlashHarry: Ironically, perhaps, the only branch I trust is the Military. They took an oath to defend the Constitution, not Trump. And they still believe deeply in the concept of honor (most of 'em, anyway.).


sure, and how much of the Military vote did trump win in 2016 even after trump belittled POWs, Gold Star Families and Generals?

And don't tell me trump just got the "grunts" vote.  My son's girlfriend's father is a captain of a US submarine and 2nd generation naval officer.  They are all trumphumpers.

/Yes, its hard to be polite when she comes to dinner.
 
2020-09-04 8:43:10 AM  

2dogsrunning: Mr. Tweedy: I'm really having a hard time understanding how a person who is so terrible at running a business can somehow manage to get a massive bureaucracy under his thumb. Did the National Enquirer really have that many blackmail pictures to use? Were there really this many people in positions of power just pining for a dictator to show up?

This. He's inept. Yes, he has a reptilian instinct for playing to fear, but I think the brainwashing that has been underway just allowed anyone to slide into the right-wing place of power. What's unreal to me is watching in real time politicians who I would have disagreed with but who I respected as having integrity fold and cave to a one. What the hell is behind that?

People are presiding over the intentional dismantling of a country, and 4 years ago that was unthinkable, to each of them as well, I think.

I find it fascinating, even as I find it terrifying.

So vote Democrat up and down the ballot, because this cancer needs to be excised.


At first I thought this was a mirror to what Germany saw in the 30's when the Nazis were rising in political power. But - the more I look at it the more I'm starting to see this differently. It's becoming apparent to me that the Civil War didn't end in 1865, it just went underground. The Confederates decided they couldn't win with weapons but they could win with words so they started enacting laws, changing state constitutions, placing their ilk in positions of power in government and the private sector - playing the long game to keep minorities down and along the way they've decided to lump in anyone else they don't like (in no particular order) - all non-Protestant religions, atheists, Latinos, Homosexuals and so on and so on. We need to start seeing this as a much larger, organized, systemic plot against this country. I feel like I just found the "They Live" glasses and it's everywhere I look now.
 
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