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2020-09-03 2:53:38 PM  
I hope Ramos has a career ending testicle injury while trying to foul Sane and missing.
 
2020-09-03 2:58:19 PM  
What's the Eastern (ET) start time?
 
2020-09-03 3:02:57 PM  
UFIA? Wait, what?
 
2020-09-03 3:04:47 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: What's the Eastern (ET) start time?


Now.
 
2020-09-03 3:05:22 PM  
Omg Joachim Löw is such a nerd
 
2020-09-03 3:16:29 PM  
I was a casual viewer for years, I followed Millwall, MUFC and Barca, but the work at home thing imposed by my company turned me into a futbol fiend.  I started waking up at 5 on weekends to watch 2nd division football from Norway and the habit is now so bad I watched an Egypt Premier league match yesterday.  I am thrilled to have top flight matches back, while I was pleasantly surprised at Isreali and Egyptian footy this Germany v England match is beautiful.
 
2020-09-03 3:23:02 PM  
Can anybody explain the FIFA rankings? How is Belgium #1? And England #4?

I have a suspicion that the points algorithm rewards teams for running up lots of easy victories against minor teams in friendlies. (Yep, just checked the algorithm. It's a weird sum-of-points calculation.)

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranki​n​g/ranking-table/men/
 
2020-09-03 3:23:58 PM  

nsstick: I hope Ramos has a career ending testicle injury while trying to foul Sane and missing.


I mourn that I have but 1 'smart' to give this.

F*ck Ramos.
 
2020-09-03 3:24:52 PM  

HugeMistake: Can anybody explain the FIFA rankings? How is Belgium #1? And England #4?

I have a suspicion that the points algorithm rewards teams for running up lots of easy victories against minor teams in friendlies. (Yep, just checked the algorithm. It's a weird sum-of-points calculation.)

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-rankin​g/ranking-table/men/


The FIFA world rankings are highly Euro-centric.

And also for the reasons you describe.
 
2020-09-03 3:36:57 PM  
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2020-09-03 3:37:29 PM  

Cajnik: Omg Joachim Löw is such a nerd


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2020-09-03 3:45:38 PM  

nsstick: I hope Ramos has a career ending testicle injury while trying to foul Sane and missing.



🎵 Ramos has only got one ball
 
2020-09-03 3:54:03 PM  
RB on the board ... Germany on the board
 
2020-09-03 3:55:28 PM  
Subby's reference to Czechoslovakia reminds me of an old joke we used to tell about Otto von Habsburg - heir to the Habsburg throne, tireless campaigner for European integration and against nationalism, and later in life an MEP for Bavaria.

One day, Otto was eating in a restaurant in Brussels and he heard two other MEPs talking about the previous day's soccer matches. "Excuse me for interrupting," he said, "but I heard you mention the Austria-Hungary match. Could you tell me who we were playing?"
 
2020-09-03 3:55:54 PM  
Sane waits too long to pull the trigger
 
2020-09-03 4:01:14 PM  

HugeMistake: Subby's reference to Czechoslovakia reminds me of an old joke we used to tell about Otto von Habsburg - heir to the Habsburg throne, tireless campaigner for European integration and against nationalism, and later in life an MEP for Bavaria.

One day, Otto was eating in a restaurant in Brussels and he heard two other MEPs talking about the previous day's soccer matches. "Excuse me for interrupting," he said, "but I heard you mention the Austria-Hungary match. Could you tell me who we were playing?"


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2020-09-03 4:11:15 PM  

Daniel Boone's Farm: I was a casual viewer for years, I followed Millwall, MUFC and Barca, but the work at home thing imposed by my company turned me into a futbol fiend.  I started waking up at 5 on weekends to watch 2nd division football from Norway and the habit is now so bad I watched an Egypt Premier league match yesterday.  I am thrilled to have top flight matches back, while I was pleasantly surprised at Isreali and Egyptian footy this Germany v England match is beautiful.


A few years ago, our (Sparta Prague)'s owner expiramented with hiring a foreign coach - not Czech or Slovak. Strammacioni out of italy over paid for every single transfer and brought in the most hyped up Israeli player who had never left Israel. He couldn't cut it in the Czech league.

Of course there are many variables; language barriers and settling in, little fish in a bigger pond (or no laurels to rest on) but really the game here is just far more physical.

My rambling point - sometimes you can put something together that works for where you are but it doesn't always transfer into some kind of international standard. That, and players agents have friends in the local media and national team that can hype up a mediocre player to get more money for their client

// Fark strammacioni, he set us back 5 years
 
2020-09-03 4:34:52 PM  
Fark yeah! That's how you do it.
 
2020-09-03 4:36:15 PM  
No gol for you!
 
2020-09-03 4:38:39 PM  
Where was the whistle? Offside?
 
2020-09-03 4:38:55 PM  
two extra minutes of extra time and spain get an equalizer
 
2020-09-03 4:39:40 PM  
he was offside, the germany guy was out

oh... shenanigans for Espana
 
2020-09-03 4:40:26 PM  
What a horseshiat ending.
 
2020-09-03 4:40:40 PM  
That was bullshiat for Germany. Too much stoppage time + he was offside.
 
2020-09-03 4:43:47 PM  
Agree on the shiatty ending, but technically not offside.
 
2020-09-03 4:44:06 PM  
Some broadcasting news:

Kyle Martino has left NBC (unknown if it was a mutual decision or not) and will be replaced by an American with PL experience, Tim Howard.
 
2020-09-03 4:44:17 PM  
Not offside, there was a defender behind him. It doesn't matter that the defender is behind the line
 
2020-09-03 4:50:07 PM  

HugeMistake: Not offside, there was a defender behind him. It doesn't matter that the defender is behind the line


How can a second defender be between the offensive player and the line when he's over the line?  We need Heidegger for this one
 
2020-09-03 5:08:12 PM  

Cajnik: Daniel Boone's Farm: I was a casual viewer for years, I followed Millwall, MUFC and Barca, but the work at home thing imposed by my company turned me into a futbol fiend.  I started waking up at 5 on weekends to watch 2nd division football from Norway and the habit is now so bad I watched an Egypt Premier league match yesterday.  I am thrilled to have top flight matches back, while I was pleasantly surprised at Isreali and Egyptian footy this Germany v England match is beautiful.

A few years ago, our (Sparta Prague)'s owner expiramented with hiring a foreign coach - not Czech or Slovak. Strammacioni out of italy over paid for every single transfer and brought in the most hyped up Israeli player who had never left Israel. He couldn't cut it in the Czech league.

Of course there are many variables; language barriers and settling in, little fish in a bigger pond (or no laurels to rest on) but really the game here is just far more physical.

My rambling point - sometimes you can put something together that works for where you are but it doesn't always transfer into some kind of international standard. That, and players agents have friends in the local media and national team that can hype up a mediocre player to get more money for their client

// Fark strammacioni, he set us back 5 years


I miss seeing Sparta in Europe. Them, Rosenborg, Dinamo Kiev and Sturm Graz are names I still fondly remember from my childhood.

/even if Dinamo did dump out Real in '99
 
2020-09-03 5:10:04 PM  
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HugeMistake: Not offside, there was a defender behind him. It doesn't matter that the defender is behind the line

How can a second defender be between the offensive player and the line when he's over the line? We need Heidegger for this one


He's considered to be on the line.
Otherwise you could have defenders or the goalie simply take a step back to create an offside situation, especially after corners with defenders marking the post.
 
2020-09-03 5:12:55 PM  

whither_apophis: HugeMistake: Not offside, there was a defender behind him. It doesn't matter that the defender is behind the line

How can a second defender be between the offensive player and the line when he's over the line?  We need Heidegger for this one


A defensive player who is behind the goal line is explicitly considered to be on the goal line (unless he left the pitch with the referee's permission / instruction, e.g. after receiving treatment for an injury). Don't ask me for a link, the layout of the current rulebook is baffling.
 
2020-09-03 5:50:47 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: Cajnik: Daniel Boone's Farm: I was a casual viewer for years, I followed Millwall, MUFC and Barca, but the work at home thing imposed by my company turned me into a futbol fiend.  I started waking up at 5 on weekends to watch 2nd division football from Norway and the habit is now so bad I watched an Egypt Premier league match yesterday.  I am thrilled to have top flight matches back, while I was pleasantly surprised at Isreali and Egyptian footy this Germany v England match is beautiful.

A few years ago, our (Sparta Prague)'s owner expiramented with hiring a foreign coach - not Czech or Slovak. Strammacioni out of italy over paid for every single transfer and brought in the most hyped up Israeli player who had never left Israel. He couldn't cut it in the Czech league.

Of course there are many variables; language barriers and settling in, little fish in a bigger pond (or no laurels to rest on) but really the game here is just far more physical.

My rambling point - sometimes you can put something together that works for where you are but it doesn't always transfer into some kind of international standard. That, and players agents have friends in the local media and national team that can hype up a mediocre player to get more money for their client

// Fark strammacioni, he set us back 5 years

I miss seeing Sparta in Europe. Them, Rosenborg, Dinamo Kiev and Sturm Graz are names I still fondly remember from my childhood.

/even if Dinamo did dump out Real in '99


Thanks, me too. I managed to see them the last time they were in the CL - 2005

But they are in Europe, it's just the EL. I really hope they manage to stay at least in the EL in this new format and not fall into the leftovers/3rd tournament
 
2020-09-03 6:25:44 PM  

Cajnik: Princip's Sandwich: Cajnik: Daniel Boone's Farm: I was a casual viewer for years, I followed Millwall, MUFC and Barca, but the work at home thing imposed by my company turned me into a futbol fiend.  I started waking up at 5 on weekends to watch 2nd division football from Norway and the habit is now so bad I watched an Egypt Premier league match yesterday.  I am thrilled to have top flight matches back, while I was pleasantly surprised at Isreali and Egyptian footy this Germany v England match is beautiful.

A few years ago, our (Sparta Prague)'s owner expiramented with hiring a foreign coach - not Czech or Slovak. Strammacioni out of italy over paid for every single transfer and brought in the most hyped up Israeli player who had never left Israel. He couldn't cut it in the Czech league.

Of course there are many variables; language barriers and settling in, little fish in a bigger pond (or no laurels to rest on) but really the game here is just far more physical.

My rambling point - sometimes you can put something together that works for where you are but it doesn't always transfer into some kind of international standard. That, and players agents have friends in the local media and national team that can hype up a mediocre player to get more money for their client

// Fark strammacioni, he set us back 5 years

I miss seeing Sparta in Europe. Them, Rosenborg, Dinamo Kiev and Sturm Graz are names I still fondly remember from my childhood.

/even if Dinamo did dump out Real in '99

Thanks, me too. I managed to see them the last time they were in the CL - 2005

But they are in Europe, it's just the EL. I really hope they manage to stay at least in the EL in this new format and not fall into the leftovers/3rd tournament


That new competition reeks of Intertoto Cup.
 
2020-09-03 7:02:01 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: That new competition reeks of Intertoto Cup.


Wait, there's a new tournament? I completely missed that.

Mind you, I'm still busy getting annoyed about the pathetic no-hopers playing in the "qualifying" rounds of the Champions' League just so they can be cannon fodder in the group stages. You know, like Celtic.

What I like most about the Nations League is the divisional structure, so you don't have qualifying decided by who can put the most goals past Gibraltar.
 
2020-09-03 7:23:50 PM  

HugeMistake: Princip's Sandwich: That new competition reeks of Intertoto Cup.

Wait, there's a new tournament? I completely missed that.

Mind you, I'm still busy getting annoyed about the pathetic no-hopers playing in the "qualifying" rounds of the Champions' League just so they can be cannon fodder in the group stages. You know, like Celtic.

What I like most about the Nations League is the divisional structure, so you don't have qualifying decided by who can put the most goals past Gibraltar.


It's more of a reshaping of the EL qualifying, shunting teams off to the Not-Intertoto in the name of "closer competition". Leagues are going to keep the same number of European qualification spots, they're just getting redistributed, starting next year.
 
2020-09-03 7:45:09 PM  

Cajnik: Daniel Boone's Farm: I was a casual viewer for years, I followed Millwall, MUFC and Barca, but the work at home thing imposed by my company turned me into a futbol fiend.  I started waking up at 5 on weekends to watch 2nd division football from Norway and the habit is now so bad I watched an Egypt Premier league match yesterday.  I am thrilled to have top flight matches back, while I was pleasantly surprised at Isreali and Egyptian footy this Germany v England match is beautiful.

A few years ago, our (Sparta Prague)'s owner expiramented with hiring a foreign coach - not Czech or Slovak. Strammacioni out of italy over paid for every single transfer and brought in the most hyped up Israeli player who had never left Israel. He couldn't cut it in the Czech league.

Of course there are many variables; language barriers and settling in, little fish in a bigger pond (or no laurels to rest on) but really the game here is just far more physical.

My rambling point - sometimes you can put something together that works for where you are but it doesn't always transfer into some kind of international standard. That, and players agents have friends in the local media and national team that can hype up a mediocre player to get more money for their client

// Fark strammacioni, he set us back 5 years


Ah Sparta...the last sports bandwagon I joined.
 
2020-09-04 7:07:51 AM  

Princip's Sandwich: It's more of a reshaping of the EL qualifying, shunting teams off to the Not-Intertoto in the name of "closer competition". Leagues are going to keep the same number of European qualification spots, they're just getting redistributed, starting next year.


I just read the description, with the Champions' Path and the Main Path and the different rounds with teams joining at every stage plus teams parachuting in from CL qualifying... and it's insane. There are 178 teams involved in EL qualifying. Madness.

Does anybody really care about a game in August with the winner gaining the right to be eliminated in the Second Qualifying Round in an empty stadium in Buttfarkistan? Do even the players involved care? I'm pretty sure the TV money would be the same without these games.

I've said it before and I know it won't happen, but UEFA should give the smaller clubs a competition of their own, one they might actually win rather than the height of their ambition being elimination in the Third Qualifying Round to a team that dropped in from CL qualifying, which by the way also had no business being in that competition.
 
2020-09-04 12:21:54 PM  

HugeMistake: I've said it before and I know it won't happen, but UEFA should give the smaller clubs a competition of their own, one they might actually win rather than the height of their ambition being elimination in the Third Qualifying Round to a team that dropped in from CL qualifying, which by the way also had no business being in that competition.


That's....that's exactly what they are trying to create

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_​E​uropa_Conference_League

Nations ranked 1 to 5 will have one team;
Nations ranked 6 to 15 will have two teams;
Nations ranked 16 to 50 will have three teams;
Nations ranked 51 to 55 will have two teams;
 
2020-09-04 12:29:20 PM  

Daniel Boone's Farm: I started waking up at 5 on weekends to watch 2nd division football from Norway and the habit is now so bad I watched an Egypt Premier league match yesterday.  .


Lithuania v Kazakhstan is on now if you have that itch :D
 
2020-09-04 3:23:07 PM  
Also it's Slovakia v Czech so the headline doesn't really work... Oh well
 
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