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(Reuters)   What the Middle East *really* needed in 2020: A translation error between different language versions of a peace agreement   (reuters.com) divider line
    More: Facepalm, Israel, West Bank, United Arab Emirates, Israeli readiness, Arabic versions of a trilateral statement, Jordan, West Bank annexation plans, White House  
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2020-09-02 11:55:12 AM  
Next thing you know the entire battle fleet will be swallowed by a small dog.
 
2020-09-02 12:02:39 PM  
If you want to sell a treaty as a win in either state, the word choice there is key. I doubt this was unintentional.
 
2020-09-02 12:17:18 PM  
Fun fact: different language versions of treaties often have subtle but meaningful differences. This is intentional precisely to allow both sides to claim victory to their home audiences. Sometimes it's as little as a "must" versus a "should", for example about intentions to reduce CO2 emissions. Other times it's a bigger deal.


CSB: One time when I was in Switzerland at a tourist trap restaurant, the menu was translated into six European languages. In five of them it said "Service included". In English it said "Service not included".
 
2020-09-02 12:35:20 PM  
Sounds like the UAE got swindled right out of the gate.
 
2020-09-02 12:36:14 PM  
"Turn Israel into a smoking crater" just doesn't translate well from Arabic into Hebrew.  The nuances get completely lost.
 
2020-09-02 12:36:31 PM  
Goddammit Jared
 
2020-09-02 12:36:42 PM  
What did they expect? They went to Jared.
 
2020-09-02 12:38:06 PM  
Seems that if you wanted to poison a deal, littering the agreement with translation errors would be a good place to start.  If they're caught prior to signing, it increases distrust and wariness, if not caught, it creates a justification to void the agreement.
 
2020-09-02 12:40:19 PM  

mainsail: If you want to sell a treaty as a win in either state, the word choice there is key. I doubt this was unintentional.


Difficulty: this is Kushner's deal.
 
2020-09-02 12:41:59 PM  

mainsail: If you want to sell a treaty as a win in either state, the word choice there is key. I doubt this was unintentional.


Feature, not bug.
 
2020-09-02 12:46:10 PM  
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2020-09-02 12:47:12 PM  
LOL, they're gonna jump on any little thing.
They were against it anyway.
 
2020-09-02 12:50:03 PM  
In these things there is always a statement that says "The xxxx language copy of this agreement is the official and binding version of this agreement." So which one is it in this case?
 
2020-09-02 12:56:41 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Goddammit Jared


They went to Jared.
 
2020-09-02 1:11:55 PM  

Porous Horace: LOL, they're gonna jump on any little thing.
They were against it anyway.


As Trump would say "it ain't little".

You tell everyone who speaks English, hey we're going to slow down as we do a drive by shooting... and tell everyone who speaks Arabic, hey we're going to stop here and start shooting.

Yooj difference.

Palestinians are not stupid, and they have a legit point. Which is it; stop or slow....

Never mind, you go ahead with your lol-on.
 
2020-09-02 1:14:25 PM  
Seeing as this story involves Bibi and Jerry, there is no way Israel is going to stop the annexing. They are quite literally, c*nts. Oh, and assholes.
 
2020-09-02 1:18:20 PM  

mainsail: If you want to sell a treaty as a win in either state, the word choice there is key. I doubt this was unintentional.


Yeah, that was my first reaction: "That wasn't an error".
 
2020-09-02 1:26:43 PM  
The minor difference between stopped and suspended isn't worth this article. If the UAE treaty had said all annexation plans are stopped in perpetuity then there would be something for the Palestinians to trumpet.

I stop my car intentionally multiple times a day, but I tend to restart to pretty soon after. We will see what Israel's plans are a couple of years down the line. The recent deal with Hamas suggests no annexation for the foreseeable future.
 
2020-09-02 1:40:24 PM  

Nuclear Monk: "Turn Israel into a smoking crater" just doesn't translate well from Arabic into Hebrew.  The nuances get completely lost.


Man,

Name.Checks.Out.
 
2020-09-02 1:51:20 PM  
"Ambassador Shaggy, I thought you said you wished to make peace with us"

"Well, yeah, man."

"but this treaty says you with to make us into pieces"

"Zoikes!"

-- "Scooby-Doo joins the State Department," TV Movie, 1984
 
2020-09-02 1:55:52 PM  
Do you think for one moment the UAE would maintain relations with Israeli if it suddenly started occupying the West Bank? Stop this nonsense.
 
2020-09-02 1:59:18 PM  
I'm sure this is really a question of vowel placement when it comes down to it.
HBRW S SMTMS HRD T TRNSLT CRRCTLY

//sometimes y.
 
2020-09-02 3:06:09 PM  
am I the only one who thinks the sheikh in the painting looks like a young Sean Connery? He even has a similar smirk
 
2020-09-02 3:13:47 PM  

Joshudan: am I the only one who thinks the sheikh in the painting looks like a young Sean Connery? He even has a similar smirk


That's an interesting choice of portrait for that location, given that Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan died in 2004.
 
2020-09-02 6:19:44 PM  

southernmanblog: In these things there is always a statement that says "The xxxx language copy of this agreement is the official and binding version of this agreement." So which one is it in this case?


Hand out English versions and sign them.
 
2020-09-03 1:19:22 PM  

southernmanblog: In these things there is always a statement that says "The xxxx language copy of this agreement is the official and binding version of this agreement." So which one is it in this case?


With business contracts, yes. With international treaties, not so much.
 
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