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(NYPost)   An Upper West Side Manhattan farmer is trying to grow corn on the street. No farm tractor seen yet for his 10-foot by 5-foot urban microfarm   (nypost.com) divider line
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2020-09-01 6:22:01 PM  
Great idea. He must live in a community where people respect the arts and science and will keep their hands off... Expect the cannabis seeds to start propagating in 3,2,1...
 
2020-09-01 6:22:02 PM  
you can get a decent amount of food from 50 sq ft.
 
2020-09-01 6:23:16 PM  
10'x5' in manhattan?

That's going to be the most expensive corn in history.
 
2020-09-01 6:29:25 PM  
He should have did a three sisters garden.
 
2020-09-01 6:35:53 PM  
Sioux Falls, SD did it first.
 
2020-09-01 6:36:09 PM  
Go to the Guggenheim.  Tractor is out front.
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2020-09-01 6:37:35 PM  
I've seen photographs of urban farms. One farmer in China who refused to sell out his land to build a city is surrounded by city but still uses a combine to harvest his grain. I remember seeing grain growing in Brooklyn, with a gorgeous view of Downtown Manhatten. Urban farming is one of the many things that are new again in this mixed up old post-Cofveve 1945 world of ours.
 
2020-09-01 6:38:20 PM  

doomjesse: Go to the Guggenheim.  Tractor is out front.
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Cool. I didn't know they went in for industrial art. Must be a new thing.
 
2020-09-01 6:44:50 PM  
I wouldnt use that sidewalk corn for silage; imagine all the dog piss and shiat all over it, to say nothing of the homeless piss and shiat all over it.
 
2020-09-01 6:45:09 PM  
Good luck. Sidewalk plot, public land, accessible & unable to claim ownership - he's jumping the right hurdles, though, and it'll be a learning experience for him. Who knows, maybe it'll work out for him.
 
2020-09-01 6:46:05 PM  

SumoJeb: you can get a decent amount of food from 50 sq ft.


This.

We have two 8x4 raised beds out back which (in year one, not having grown veggies before) have produced more pumpkins, corn, basil, zucchini, summer squash, and tomatoes than we know what to do with.
 
2020-09-01 6:48:28 PM  

big pig peaches: He should have did a three sisters garden.


Indeed.   By itself, corn is a waste of space for the yield.   Many people might not realize you only get one or two ears of corn per sweet corn plant.  So, it's either a hobby to eat a few delicious fresh ears of corn right after picking, or you need a large plot if you're serious about replacing your grocery store corn.

If you like okra, it takes up about the same amount of space and has a huge, continually producing yield.  Attractive leaves and flowers, too.
 
2020-09-01 6:48:48 PM  
I wonder if he's hand pollinating? Corn is usually a wind pollinated crop, but that works best in very large fields. The windward edge of a field may see poorer yields than the rest of the field.

My son has a little chaos garden going in the yard this year. It's got wildflowers, squash, and tomatoes. It's also sprouted a half dozen stalks of corn that were evidently seed that was left behind when the chicken pen was in that spot.

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2020-09-01 6:50:36 PM  
Hope he knows to hand pollenate the corn. Corn relies on wind for pollination, and you really need a pretty good sized plot to get ears with full kernels. The first and only time I tried my hand at growing corn, I didn't know this. My garden plot was slightly bigger than 10x5, and I only got about one family dinner's worth of decent ears. The rest had a few kernels here and there but were largely just empty cobs.
 
2020-09-01 6:50:51 PM  
People have been doing this in my Upper Manhattan neighborhood for many years but for some reason the New York Post has never sent reporters up here to cover it.  I wonder what could possibly be different about this guy. Hmm.
 
2020-09-01 6:51:03 PM  
Don't you need a certain number of row for self pollination to occur?
 
2020-09-01 6:51:08 PM  
Instead he should grow chile peppers and make a hot sauce from New York City.
 
2020-09-01 6:54:54 PM  
My dad could do it.  He'd relish it.  He backed that baby into so many corners.

He's not available for hire, unless you ask mom first.

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2020-09-01 6:55:51 PM  

dryknife: Instead he should grow chile peppers and make a hot sauce from New York City.


salsa.
 
2020-09-01 6:55:55 PM  
Does he use homeless people and dog shiat as fertilizer?

/or is homeless shiat only a west coast problem?
 
2020-09-01 7:01:24 PM  

albuquerquehalsey: Don't you need a certain number of row for self pollination to occur?


As mentioned above, it can be done by hand, and that isn't a big deal if it's just a hobby garden.   All I ever did was shake the stalks when the tassles and silks were both present and I did OK.    If you do it at the right time, then you can see the pollen fall onto the lower parts of the plants and (hopefully) get on the silks.   Or, you can take some of the tassel and rub it on the silks.
 
2020-09-01 7:02:38 PM  

DrBrownCow: albuquerquehalsey: Don't you need a certain number of row for self pollination to occur?

As mentioned above, it can be done by hand, and that isn't a big deal if it's just a hobby garden.   All I ever did was shake the stalks when the tassles and silks were both present and I did OK.    If you do it at the right time, then you can see the pollen fall onto the lower parts of the plants and (hopefully) get on the silks.   Or, you can take some of the tassel and rub it on the silks.


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2020-09-01 7:02:50 PM  
"...he'll harvest sometime in the next two weeks "before the raccoons do."

I doubt it'll be raccoons that get to them before he does.
 
2020-09-01 7:03:09 PM  
Cute, and looks like a nice enough part of the city, but it's tough to imagine that density of humanity seeing ears of corn that are 90% ready to go, and just leaving them alone. Especially at 2am when walking past while hammered and hungry.
 
2020-09-01 7:04:32 PM  

DrBrownCow: dryknife: Instead he should grow chile peppers and make a hot sauce from New York City.

salsa.


I stand corrected.
 
2020-09-01 7:05:39 PM  
FarkinNortherner:

We have two 8x4 raised beds out back which (in year one, not having grown veggies before) have produced more pumpkins, corn, basil, zucchini, summer squash, and tomatoes than we know what to do with.

Most people eat those, but if you are brave enough...
 
2020-09-01 7:08:54 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: DrBrownCow: albuquerquehalsey: Don't you need a certain number of row for self pollination to occur?

As mentioned above, it can be done by hand, and that isn't a big deal if it's just a hobby garden.   All I ever did was shake the stalks when the tassles and silks were both present and I did OK.    If you do it at the right time, then you can see the pollen fall onto the lower parts of the plants and (hopefully) get on the silks.   Or, you can take some of the tassel and rub it on the silks.

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Those birds and bees and flowers and trees know how to get down.
 
2020-09-01 7:11:18 PM  

dryknife: DrBrownCow: dryknife: Instead he should grow chile peppers and make a hot sauce from New York City.

salsa.

I stand corrected.


Just sayin'.   The point is the same really.  The city slicker version couldn't be spicy enough to satisfy a Texan.
 
2020-09-01 7:29:05 PM  
What a microfarm might look like:

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2020-09-01 7:44:23 PM  
Zucs and tomato for that size.  Geat yield.  Corn?  Is that ft centers.  50 plants more likely 40.  Not worth it
 
2020-09-01 7:52:53 PM  

DrBrownCow: big pig peaches: He should have did a three sisters garden.

Indeed.   By itself, corn is a waste of space for the yield.   Many people might not realize you only get one or two ears of corn per sweet corn plant.  So, it's either a hobby to eat a few delicious fresh ears of corn right after picking, or you need a large plot if you're serious about replacing your grocery store corn.

If you like okra, it takes up about the same amount of space and has a huge, continually producing yield.  Attractive leaves and flowers, too.


Okra is OK but leaves a weird greasy feel in your mouth.
 
2020-09-01 7:59:52 PM  
Should have used that plot to grow spaghetti. After asking a Montana farmer for advice.
 
2020-09-01 8:02:13 PM  
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2020-09-01 8:04:58 PM  
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2020-09-01 8:14:08 PM  

brantgoose: I've seen photographs of urban farms. One farmer in China who refused to sell out his land to build a city is surrounded by city but still uses a combine to harvest his grain. I remember seeing grain growing in Brooklyn, with a gorgeous view of Downtown Manhatten. Urban farming is one of the many things that are new again in this mixed up old post-Cofveve 1945 world of ours.


i used to see a farm on a 1 story building in Sussex Cty NJ USA, it was 10 gallon food grade buckets with dirt and they grew their goodies year after year.

People would be wise to buy heirloom seeds and begin planting indoors and out. Rough times are coming.
 
2020-09-01 8:20:30 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: Okra is OK but leaves a weird greasy feel in your mouth.


Yeah, certain ways of cooking it seems to bring out the slime factor.    Generally, my very fresh okra (within a few days of picking) doesn't seem as prone to sliminess.    Compared to corn it's also packed with nutrition.

- If you simply cut okra into 1/2 inch slices and pan fry in very shallow oil until it has good color, then virtually all of the sliminess gets cooked off.  It doesn't absorb much oil either.

- One of the best ways to eat very fresh okra as a snack is to blanch it in boiling water for about a minute, and then just eat it right away.  Great fresh okra flavor.  Not slimy.  Dipping sauce or even soy sauce if desired.   It's super low in calories and high in fiber.

- Batter dipped whole okra is good.  I don't care for fried okra slices because a lot of the okra flavor is lost.

- I also pickle it whole with a few hot peppers and garlic.

- I make some Indian dishes, too.  Bindhi masala is a common.

OK, I'll stop before I become the Benjamin Bubba Blue of okra.
 
2020-09-01 8:21:38 PM  
WHerein two grandmothers are arrested for tearing up the street and planting vegetables.

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2020-09-01 8:24:29 PM  

amyldoanitrite: Hope he knows to hand pollenate the corn. Corn relies on wind for pollination, and you really need a pretty good sized plot to get ears with full kernels. The first and only time I tried my hand at growing corn, I didn't know this. My garden plot was slightly bigger than 10x5, and I only got about one family dinner's worth of decent ears. The rest had a few kernels here and there but were largely just empty cobs.


No. I grow corn every summer. My plots are one square metre and every stalk grows about 5-6' tall. Each stalk grows a large primary full ear, with an extra one or two ears that are fully developed but just shorter. Was a bit stunned how small the stalks in the article were, poor soil and/or lack of fertiliser it seems to me.
 
2020-09-01 8:25:47 PM  

LiberalConservative: amyldoanitrite: Hope he knows to hand pollenate the corn. Corn relies on wind for pollination, and you really need a pretty good sized plot to get ears with full kernels. The first and only time I tried my hand at growing corn, I didn't know this. My garden plot was slightly bigger than 10x5, and I only got about one family dinner's worth of decent ears. The rest had a few kernels here and there but were largely just empty cobs.

No. I grow corn every summer. My plots are one square metre and every stalk grows about 5-6' tall. Each stalk grows a large primary full ear, with an extra one or two ears that are fully developed but just shorter. Was a bit stunned how small the stalks in the article were, poor soil and/or lack of fertiliser it seems to me.


Oops coffee not imbibed. No hand pollination used.
 
2020-09-01 8:31:04 PM  

LiberalConservative: amyldoanitrite: Hope he knows to hand pollenate the corn. Corn relies on wind for pollination, and you really need a pretty good sized plot to get ears with full kernels. The first and only time I tried my hand at growing corn, I didn't know this. My garden plot was slightly bigger than 10x5, and I only got about one family dinner's worth of decent ears. The rest had a few kernels here and there but were largely just empty cobs.

No. I grow corn every summer. My plots are one square metre and every stalk grows about 5-6' tall. Each stalk grows a large primary full ear, with an extra one or two ears that are fully developed but just shorter. Was a bit stunned how small the stalks in the article were, poor soil and/or lack of fertiliser it seems to me.


Well, um, lucky you?
 
2020-09-01 8:41:46 PM  
I hope that picture was from awhile ago, there's no way he's getting ears from plants that size now.
 
2020-09-01 8:55:38 PM  

DrBrownCow: dryknife: DrBrownCow: dryknife: Instead he should grow chile peppers and make a hot sauce from New York City.

salsa.

I stand corrected.

Just sayin'.   The point is the same really.  The city slicker version couldn't be spicy enough to satisfy a Texan


In my nano-garden on my fire escape in Brooklyn, i grew ghost peppers, carolina reapers, tomatillas, jalapenos, cilatro, and tomatoes. I made salsa that was to spicey for my Mexican wife and her friends (perfect for me).
 
2020-09-01 9:30:35 PM  
I grew corn and pumpkins this year. Pretty good yields. The hurricane blew over four of my stalks before harvesting though ;(

I still ended up with about 7 ears of the tastiest sweet corn I've ever eaten.

The pumpkins are coming along nicely.
 
2020-09-01 9:35:05 PM  
How many millions in farm subsidies is he getting?
 
2020-09-01 9:42:35 PM  

FarkinNortherner: SumoJeb: you can get a decent amount of food from 50 sq ft.

This.

We have two 8x4 raised beds out back which (in year one, not having grown veggies before) have produced more pumpkins, corn, basil, zucchini, summer squash, and tomatoes than we know what to do with.


Pic please?

/Yours or something similar
//I have space
///just not sure how something like this would be set up
 
2020-09-01 10:09:09 PM  
What a corny story.
 
2020-09-01 11:52:39 PM  

DrBrownCow: dryknife: Instead he should grow chile peppers and make a hot sauce from New York City.

salsa.


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2020-09-02 1:19:27 AM  

amyldoanitrite: LiberalConservative: amyldoanitrite: Hope he knows to hand pollenate the corn. Corn relies on wind for pollination, and you really need a pretty good sized plot to get ears with full kernels. The first and only time I tried my hand at growing corn, I didn't know this. My garden plot was slightly bigger than 10x5, and I only got about one family dinner's worth of decent ears. The rest had a few kernels here and there but were largely just empty cobs.

No. I grow corn every summer. My plots are one square metre and every stalk grows about 5-6' tall. Each stalk grows a large primary full ear, with an extra one or two ears that are fully developed but just shorter. Was a bit stunned how small the stalks in the article were, poor soil and/or lack of fertiliser it seems to me.

Well, um, lucky you?


Possibly. So many factors involved in getting a good crop.
 
2020-09-02 1:42:27 AM  
He even found a neighbor who offered him his hose.
I'll bet he did
 
2020-09-02 6:51:15 AM  
So shiatpatch gardening has taken off in the US as well?

Shitpatch Gardening - February
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