Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Nautil.us)   While nobody was looking, Schrödinger's Cat has managed to be solved   (nautil.us) divider line
    More: Cool, Quantum mechanics, General relativity, quantum theory, Big Bang, Quantum gravity, generic state of a system, evolution of the state of a physical system, doubt quantum theory  
•       •       •

2552 clicks; posted to Fandom » on 30 Aug 2020 at 9:30 PM (20 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



34 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2020-08-30 3:07:35 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-30 3:35:18 PM  
Now, do it again from the Cat's point of view.
 
2020-08-30 4:21:32 PM  
That article read like a scientist feeling guilty for trying way too hard to be controversial for the sake of funding but trying to hide it by throwing a lot of words at the idea of over-amplifying the importance of certain quantum processes at the expense of others, with no real substantial reason for doing so. A very Forbes-like article, which I'm sad to say I cannot un-read.
 
2020-08-30 5:44:09 PM  
Schroedinger's cat might be watching you masturbate.
 
2020-08-30 5:48:32 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-30 6:14:18 PM  
That's the exact conclusion I came to.
 
2020-08-30 6:18:50 PM  
Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?

/ I refuse to read the article, because reasons
 
2020-08-30 7:07:04 PM  

iheartscotch: Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?


No, that's never been the case.  It's that the cat is described as a combination of waveforms of the _probability_ that it is alive and the _probability_ that it is dead.  That's all quantum mechanics offers - a prediction of probability, good to five significant figures.
 
2020-08-30 7:34:44 PM  

syrynxx: iheartscotch: Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?

No, that's never been the case.  It's that the cat is described as a combination of waveforms of the _probability_ that it is alive and the _probability_ that it is dead.  That's all quantum mechanics offers - a prediction of probability, good to five significant figures.


I thought that Schrödinger's cat was about superposition. That we cannot measure position without changing it.
 
2020-08-30 7:38:58 PM  
You peeked!
 
2020-08-30 8:22:51 PM  

iheartscotch: syrynxx: iheartscotch: Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?

No, that's never been the case.  It's that the cat is described as a combination of waveforms of the _probability_ that it is alive and the _probability_ that it is dead.  That's all quantum mechanics offers - a prediction of probability, good to five significant figures.

I thought that Schrödinger's cat was about superposition. That we cannot measure position without changing it.


While the box is closed, the cat is described by the superposition of a waveform of the probability that it's alive plus a waveform of the probability that it's dead. So it's not that it actually is both alive and dead, but that it might be either.

Opening the box is called collapsing the waveform, measuring that the cat is either 100% dead or 100%'alive. So in that regard it changes the description of the cat (or position of a particle) by measuring it, because now the other probability waveform is invalid.
 
2020-08-30 9:47:46 PM  
If Schrödinger's Cat were Bad Kitty, then I would pity whoever opens the box.

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-30 9:53:33 PM  
Heisenberg and Schrödinger get pulled over for speeding.
The cop asks Heisenberg "Do you know how fast you were going?"
Heisenberg replies, "No, but we know exactly where we are!"
The officer looks at him confused and says "you were going 108 miles per hour!"
Heisenberg throws his arms up and cries, "Great! Now we're lost!"
The officer looks over the car and asks Schrödinger if the two men have anything in the trunk.
"A cat," Schrödinger replies.
The cop opens the trunk and yells "Hey! This cat is dead."
Schrödinger angrily replies, "Well he is now."
 
2020-08-30 9:54:44 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-30 9:54:56 PM  
For the love of... I solved this in sprite comic form back in 2009:
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-30 10:07:27 PM  
So many words to prove how smart they are, yet completely miss the point of the whole thing.
 
2020-08-30 10:08:13 PM  

iheartscotch: Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?

/ I refuse to read the article, because reasons


I prefer the Discworld solution...

Alive, or dead, but bloody furious.
 
2020-08-30 10:27:50 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-30 10:33:39 PM  
Schroedinger's cat never existed in the first place. It was a poor attempt to translate math in words and apply it to a situation it does not apply to.
 
2020-08-30 10:35:29 PM  
Turns out, it was a friggin' goose this entire time.  I know, right?  What the hell Schroedinger?
 
2020-08-30 11:32:42 PM  

Camus' Ghost: Turns out, it was a friggin' goose this entire time.  I know, right?  What the hell Schroedinger?


Got bit by the Heisenberg principle - you can't know both the sex and the species at the same time. So he chose wisely.
 
2020-08-31 1:18:40 AM  
Of course it's dead, you moron. You locked a cat inside a box for A MONTH.
Cats need food and water.
TO LIVE.
 
2020-08-31 3:13:01 AM  
Unfortunately the answer was that it's dead, guys.
 
2020-08-31 4:03:22 AM  
It's also an experiment in thermodynamics and entropy. How? Put a dead cat in the box.
 
2020-08-31 5:44:57 AM  
Quantum philosophy is garbage. Just do the math.
 
2020-08-31 6:14:39 AM  

imfallen_angel: So many words to prove how smart they are, yet completely miss the point of the whole thing.


The point is to advertise the book that will be written about this thing. It's an ad. Wake up sheeple. Dow with that sort of thing
 
2020-08-31 10:35:53 AM  

iheartscotch: Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?

/ I refuse to read the article, because reasons


If you never read the article, you are both correct and not correct.
 
2020-08-31 11:57:16 AM  

pup.socket: Schroedinger's cat never existed in the first place. It was a poor attempt to translate math in words and apply it to a situation it does not apply to.


I might argue that it was a poor attempt to translate reality into math.  And since reality is relativity, we can just laugh and go back to watching 'ow, my balls!'
 
2020-08-31 12:14:58 PM  

syrynxx: iheartscotch: syrynxx: iheartscotch: Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?

No, that's never been the case.  It's that the cat is described as a combination of waveforms of the _probability_ that it is alive and the _probability_ that it is dead.  That's all quantum mechanics offers - a prediction of probability, good to five significant figures.

I thought that Schrödinger's cat was about superposition. That we cannot measure position without changing it.

While the box is closed, the cat is described by the superposition of a waveform of the probability that it's alive plus a waveform of the probability that it's dead. So it's not that it actually is both alive and dead, but that it might be either.

Opening the box is called collapsing the waveform, measuring that the cat is either 100% dead or 100%'alive. So in that regard it changes the description of the cat (or position of a particle) by measuring it, because now the other probability waveform is invalid.


Alternatively, zombie kittens.  Meow meow! Meow meow!
 
2020-08-31 2:45:45 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: syrynxx: iheartscotch: syrynxx: iheartscotch: Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?

No, that's never been the case.  It's that the cat is described as a combination of waveforms of the _probability_ that it is alive and the _probability_ that it is dead.  That's all quantum mechanics offers - a prediction of probability, good to five significant figures.

I thought that Schrödinger's cat was about superposition. That we cannot measure position without changing it.

While the box is closed, the cat is described by the superposition of a waveform of the probability that it's alive plus a waveform of the probability that it's dead. So it's not that it actually is both alive and dead, but that it might be either.

Opening the box is called collapsing the waveform, measuring that the cat is either 100% dead or 100%'alive. So in that regard it changes the description of the cat (or position of a particle) by measuring it, because now the other probability waveform is invalid.

Alternatively, zombie kittens.  Meow meow! Meow meow!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNwCo​j​CJ3-Q&list=RDPtcqXFZFiWo&index=15
 
2020-08-31 5:58:00 PM  

LewDux: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: syrynxx: iheartscotch: syrynxx: iheartscotch: Isn't the answer that the cat is simultaneously alive and not alive? Haven't we know that forever?

No, that's never been the case.  It's that the cat is described as a combination of waveforms of the _probability_ that it is alive and the _probability_ that it is dead.  That's all quantum mechanics offers - a prediction of probability, good to five significant figures.

I thought that Schrödinger's cat was about superposition. That we cannot measure position without changing it.

While the box is closed, the cat is described by the superposition of a waveform of the probability that it's alive plus a waveform of the probability that it's dead. So it's not that it actually is both alive and dead, but that it might be either.

Opening the box is called collapsing the waveform, measuring that the cat is either 100% dead or 100%'alive. So in that regard it changes the description of the cat (or position of a particle) by measuring it, because now the other probability waveform is invalid.

Alternatively, zombie kittens.  Meow meow! Meow meow!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNwCoj​CJ3-Q&list=RDPtcqXFZFiWo&index=15


I was too lazy to go find it - danke!
 
2020-08-31 11:06:26 PM  

aungen: I might argue that it was a poor attempt to translate reality into math.


That's the whole quantum mechanics, not the cat "paradox".

aungen: And since reality is relativity


Only if you switch from/to non-inertial frames of reference, otherwise you're just lying to yourself.
 
2020-09-01 2:13:40 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: [Fark user image 480x360] [View Full Size image _x_]


As my great grandnephew used to say, there is more than one way to skin Schrödinger's cat.
 
2020-09-01 10:02:29 AM  

pup.socket: aungen: I might argue that it was a poor attempt to translate reality into math.

That's the whole quantum mechanics, not the cat "paradox".

aungen: And since reality is relativity

Only if you switch from/to non-inertial frames of reference, otherwise you're just lying to yourself.


Here's something ridiculous:  I don't think quantum mechanics exists the way we present it, now.  Yes, I studied it out and did the math up to the 600 level.  But I think reality is more malleable than we give it credit for.  Things that are considered constants will eventually prove to not be constants, and the break between quantum and relativity will go away, as will the concept of a multiverse.  It'll all end up just being our universe, with 'probability' becoming a more tangible thing. I don't think probability is the right word.  And the cat paradox will tie in nicely, except it will mean more.
 
Displayed 34 of 34 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter



  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.