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2020-08-30 3:29:31 PM  
'Murica.
 
2020-08-30 3:33:51 PM  
Seriously, folks, what CAN black people do?  Can't BBQ. Can't go shopping. Can't skateboard. Can't bike. Can't attend faculty events. Can't walk down streets. Can't drive at night. Or the day. Or in "those neighborhoods" or "these neighborhoods" either. Can't teach. Can't attend classes.

Seems like the only thing that folks WILL let black folks do is work at Popeye's or play sports. And even then, they'd apparently best be home right after the game.

Y'all are going to make the slip past 50% a real humdinger, aren't you? Just got to get that last little bit of dickishness in now before the electorate and the representation takes a decided turn.
 
2020-08-30 4:32:30 PM  
Sounds like they were systematically harassing her. You don't get a passport fast-pass unless the Fed really wants you to.
 
2020-08-30 4:49:30 PM  
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2020-08-30 5:22:06 PM  
We are T-Minus one election away from being a full blown nazi-reinactment state.

Vote like your children's future depends on it.
 
2020-08-30 5:27:36 PM  

hubiestubert: Seriously, folks, what CAN black people do?  Can't BBQ. Can't go shopping. Can't skateboard. Can't bike. Can't attend faculty events. Can't walk down streets. Can't drive at night. Or the day. Or in "those neighborhoods" or "these neighborhoods" either. Can't teach. Can't attend classes.

Seems like the only thing that folks WILL let black folks do is work at Popeye's or play sports. And even then, they'd apparently best be home right after the game.

Y'all are going to make the slip past 50% a real humdinger, aren't you? Just got to get that last little bit of dickishness in now before the electorate and the representation takes a decided turn.


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2020-08-30 5:27:41 PM  
I got stopped by some immigration aholes while travelling back on a official US government passport. They wanted to know if I had ever been deported.

Consider the train of thought here... I sneaked into he US, got deported, came back, got a government job, passed the screening & background check and now these aholes were gonna catch me on my way back from representing the government of the United States at an international conference. They tried to claim that I had a common Hispanic last name and that this "was a problem". So I asked if they were also stopping a lot of Jones and Smiths who got "flagged" by the system but they would not comment on that for some reason.
 
2020-08-30 5:33:02 PM  
hubiestubert:

Y'all are going to make the slip past 50% a real humdinger, aren't you? Just got to get that last little bit of dickishness in now before the electorate and the representation takes a decided turn.

That's where the hope is, they (we) ARE slipping under 50%.  I've substitute taught enough classes to see the pattern:  if one group is a majority, the majority plays with the majority, and everyone else has their back against the wall.  If no group is a majority, everyone plays with everyone, for the most part.

Another 20 years and we're gonna be fine, if we make it past "white power last gasp".
 
2020-08-30 5:39:56 PM  
apocryphaandmyth:
Another 20 years and we're gonna be fine, if we make it past "white power last gasp".

the seventeen year old in kenosha  will tell you different
 
2020-08-30 5:40:25 PM  

kbronsito: I got stopped by some immigration aholes while travelling back on a official US government passport. They wanted to know if I had ever been deported.

Consider the train of thought here... I sneaked into he US, got deported, came back, got a government job, passed the screening & background check and now these aholes were gonna catch me on my way back from representing the government of the United States at an international conference. They tried to claim that I had a common Hispanic last name and that this "was a problem". So I asked if they were also stopping a lot of Jones and Smiths who got "flagged" by the system but they would not comment on that for some reason.


Remember, Border Patrol is for the folks too dumb to be cops.
 
2020-08-30 5:42:17 PM  
Repeat? Coulda swore I read this same story a few months back.

/still, bears repeating bears
 
2020-08-30 5:45:44 PM  
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2020-08-30 5:45:53 PM  
I've travelled abroad since the 1980's, even went through communist bloc countries then. The WORST customs treatment was always coming back into the USA.
I'm a blue-eyed honky too.
 
2020-08-30 5:47:03 PM  
I remember when I was in H.S., I was behind in credits and taking night classes (remember...Juggalo), a friend was also taking the same classes so I'd give him a ride home.  After I dropped him off it was a short cut to drive through Sugar Hill/ Lincoln Estes (Anyone from the Gainesville, FL. area knows what that was like in the 90s).  I got pulled over every other week because "I didn't fit the discrimination of someone who should be in the area (I'm white).  It was the same black cop every time!!  I dont remember his name, but his car number GPD1666.
/He finally nailed
//i was searched and hand cuffed
///had a tail light out
 
2020-08-30 5:47:53 PM  

washburn777: We are T-Minus one election away from being a full blown nazi-reinactment state.

Vote like your children's future depends on it.


VOTE
 
2020-08-30 5:49:01 PM  

invictus2: apocryphaandmyth:
Another 20 years and we're gonna be fine, if we make it past "white power last gasp".

the seventeen year old in kenosha  will tell you different


He grew up playing white kids in the majority, doing white kid majority stuff.  That's the childhood a lot less kids will be living in 20 years.
 
2020-08-30 5:49:42 PM  

Rambino: Repeat? Coulda swore I read this same story a few months back.

/still, bears repeating bears


Me too, but the byline says today. What the hell, man.
 
2020-08-30 5:49:52 PM  
Sorry, head light.  Tail light was in Bronson, FL.  When I contested that there was a short in the electric, the Sargent called the officer a "Barney Fife" mfer.
 
2020-08-30 5:51:51 PM  

apocryphaandmyth: hubiestubert:

Y'all are going to make the slip past 50% a real humdinger, aren't you? Just got to get that last little bit of dickishness in now before the electorate and the representation takes a decided turn.

That's where the hope is, they (we) ARE slipping under 50%.  I've substitute taught enough classes to see the pattern:  if one group is a majority, the majority plays with the majority, and everyone else has their back against the wall.  If no group is a majority, everyone plays with everyone, for the most part.

Another 20 years and we're gonna be fine, if we make it past "white power last gasp".



My sweet summer children. White people aren't 50 percent in Latin America and they've been running shiat just fine, maintaining inherently racist policing, and other institutions. South Africa did even more with a smaller proportion of whites to other races.
 
2020-08-30 5:55:35 PM  
Maybe the government isn't good.
 
2020-08-30 6:02:22 PM  

invictus2: apocryphaandmyth:
Another 20 years and we're gonna be fine, if we make it past "white power last gasp".

the seventeen year old in kenosha  will tell you different


^^this^^ they've been breeding.
 
2020-08-30 6:07:25 PM  
Considering the US has a larger black population than Mexico, unless she has a massive West Indies accent then it should be obvious she's from the US. Regardless, diplomatic passport? The State Department outranks these shiatheads.

They should be showing deference to State Department diplomats and if they don't, they should be fired with extreme prejudice. This is pure, 100% racism.
 
2020-08-30 6:07:53 PM  

hubiestubert: Seriously, folks, what CAN black people do?  Can't BBQ. Can't go shopping. Can't skateboard. Can't bike. Can't attend faculty events. Can't walk down streets. Can't drive at night. Or the day. Or in "those neighborhoods" or "these neighborhoods" either. Can't teach. Can't attend classes.

Seems like the only thing that folks WILL let black folks do is work at Popeye's or play sports. And even then, they'd apparently best be home right after the game.

Y'all are going to make the slip past 50% a real humdinger, aren't you? Just got to get that last little bit of dickishness in now before the electorate and the representation takes a decided turn.


And the right wing nut jobs still wonder why people are burning shiat down.

"Just stay in your place and play the football."

"Wull, why does black people get scholarships and affirmative action jobs over white people? Shouldn't people hire the most qualified?"

Yes. And because of the white racists that's not what's been happening for over a hundred years, so now we need to make laws to even it out.

"But that's the real racism!"

Oh fark off already.
 
2020-08-30 6:08:12 PM  

Rambino: Repeat? Coulda swore I read this same story a few months back.

/still, bears repeating bears


The incident was from 2018.
 
2020-08-30 6:10:50 PM  
Tianna Spears is rather pretty.

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I wonder if the CBP troglodytes got off on harassing a young pretty black woman who was better educated than them with a better job.

Aw come on, they were just flirting or joking. Can't she  take a joke?

If CBP has to pull out some number of crossers for secondary inspections can't they have fun doing it? Harassing fat old women isn't nearly as fun.
 
2020-08-30 6:13:37 PM  

HammerHeadSnark: Rambino: Repeat? Coulda swore I read this same story a few months back.

/still, bears repeating bears

Me too, but the byline says today. What the hell, man.


SSDD
 
2020-08-30 6:15:03 PM  

kumanoki: hubiestubert: Seriously, folks, what CAN black people do?  Can't BBQ. Can't go shopping. Can't skateboard. Can't bike. Can't attend faculty events. Can't walk down streets. Can't drive at night. Or the day. Or in "those neighborhoods" or "these neighborhoods" either. Can't teach. Can't attend classes.

Seems like the only thing that folks WILL let black folks do is work at Popeye's or play sports. And even then, they'd apparently best be home right after the game.

Y'all are going to make the slip past 50% a real humdinger, aren't you? Just got to get that last little bit of dickishness in now before the electorate and the representation takes a decided turn.

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Sadly, that is a very accurate portrayal of the state we live in.
 
2020-08-30 6:16:05 PM  

kbronsito: My sweet summer children. White people aren't 50 percent in Latin America and they've been running shiat just fine, maintaining inherently racist policing, and other institutions. South Africa did even more with a smaller proportion of whites to other races.


South Africa explicitly prohibited black people to vote in much of the country, and only allowed property owners to vote in other parts, greatly skewing the voting base to whites only.

/republicans are trying their best with gerrymandering and voter disenfranchising, but in the end it will get harder and harder for them to skew things their way thanks to changing demographics. Reality has a liberal bias.
 
2020-08-30 6:16:34 PM  

detonator: I've travelled abroad since the 1980's, even went through communist bloc countries then. The WORST customs treatment was always coming back into the USA.
I'm a blue-eyed honky too.


Gotta keep the yokels from finding out that not only is America not the greatest country in the world, it's also pretty god damn sh*tty compared to more evolved nations.

If the average American saw how much bang-for-buck value the average European's tax dollars are being well-spent for "socialist" programs like health care, education,Social Security, etc., we'd turn into a nation of Bernie Bros.
 
2020-08-30 6:19:37 PM  

detonator: I've travelled abroad since the 1980's, even went through communist bloc countries then. The WORST customs treatment was always coming back into the USA.
I'm a blue-eyed honky too.


I will second this experience. Not old enough to have done it since the 80's, but similarly bad experiences with US customs agents. The only place I've ever felt they were being rude/belligerent was the US. I've been detained by customs in two other countries and never felt they were trying to intimidate me or acting unprofessionally . The US, however, about half the time I go back it's some roided up skinhead genetic backstep being a standoffish farkface.
 
2020-08-30 6:22:49 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: detonator: I've travelled abroad since the 1980's, even went through communist bloc countries then. The WORST customs treatment was always coming back into the USA.
I'm a blue-eyed honky too.

Gotta keep the yokels from finding out that not only is America not the greatest country in the world, it's also pretty god damn sh*tty compared to more evolved nations.

If the average American saw how much bang-for-buck value the average European's tax dollars are being well-spent for "socialist" programs like health care, education,Social Security, etc., we'd turn into a nation of Bernie Bros.


I was touring in punk rock bands back then but was smart enough to not look the part at customs. However, on one landing in Dallas from the UK, they went through our baggage and found some posters for our gigs in Berlin and Prague. Got the glove treatment on that one.
After that, we wised up and sent all of our promo and keepsakes ahead, and told the customs guys we were a country band that played George Jones covers.
 
2020-08-30 6:24:37 PM  

kbronsito: I got stopped by some immigration aholes while travelling back on a official US government passport. They wanted to know if I had ever been deported.

Consider the train of thought here... I sneaked into he US, got deported, came back, got a government job, passed the screening & background check and now these aholes were gonna catch me on my way back from representing the government of the United States at an international conference. They tried to claim that I had a common Hispanic last name and that this "was a problem". So I asked if they were also stopping a lot of Jones and Smiths who got "flagged" by the system but they would not comment on that for some reason.


I got stopped coming in from Mexico because of my Spanish-sounding last name.

Which is Italian, but hey...
 
2020-08-30 6:26:00 PM  
Word is of you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about!

OBEY! COMPLY! RESPECT! LAW AND ORDER!
 
2020-08-30 6:28:47 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: detonator: I've travelled abroad since the 1980's, even went through communist bloc countries then. The WORST customs treatment was always coming back into the USA.
I'm a blue-eyed honky too.

Gotta keep the yokels from finding out that not only is America not the greatest country in the world, it's also pretty god damn sh*tty compared to more evolved nations.

If the average American saw how much bang-for-buck value the average European's tax dollars are being well-spent for "socialist" programs like health care, education,Social Security, etc., we'd turn into a nation of Bernie Bros.


Unfortunately most Americans are too poor to travel abroad, and too poorly educated to realize what they're missing.
 
2020-08-30 6:29:06 PM  
Defundbankrupt ice and the border patrol.
 
2020-08-30 6:29:17 PM  

A Recovering Juggalo: I remember when I was in H.S., I was behind in credits and taking night classes (remember...Juggalo), a friend was also taking the same classes so I'd give him a ride home.  After I dropped him off it was a short cut to drive through Sugar Hill/ Lincoln Estes (Anyone from the Gainesville, FL. area knows what that was like in the 90s).  I got pulled over every other week because "I didn't fit the discrimination of someone who should be in the area (I'm white).  It was the same black cop every time!!  I dont remember his name, but his car number GPD1666.
/He finally nailed
//i was searched and hand cuffed
///had a tail light out


Being a white guy is so hard!  You brave brave soul!!
 
2020-08-30 6:29:40 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: detonator: I've travelled abroad since the 1980's, even went through communist bloc countries then. The WORST customs treatment was always coming back into the USA.
I'm a blue-eyed honky too.

I will second this experience. Not old enough to have done it since the 80's, but similarly bad experiences with US customs agents. The only place I've ever felt they were being rude/belligerent was the US. I've been detained by customs in two other countries and never felt they were trying to intimidate me or acting unprofessionally . The US, however, about half the time I go back it's some roided up skinhead genetic backstep being a standoffish farkface.


I once got stripped to my boxers in the front if about three hundred people while I was getting on a plane to come home in Frankfurt. That was 2014.
The reason they gave me was that I was traveling too lightly with just a carry on, and it was "suspicious ". I was only on a three week tour, and I HATE waiting for luggage and HATE waiting for other guys in the group to collect their shiat. Some people feel like they have to bring a ton of stuff with them, and if the airline loses their stuff then the poor guy is chasing his stuff the whole tour. Instead, I travel lightly and buy stuff if I need it.
I was in my mid fifties then, so I didn't care if I was naked, and I'm sure it wasn't much of a treat for everyone else.
 
2020-08-30 6:33:42 PM  

washburn777: We are T-Minus one election away from being a full blown nazi-reinactment state.

Vote like your children's future depends on it.


and be willing to call them out for the liars they are if they say Trump won the next election. Don't just vote. Be willing to DEFEND that vote. Or it's meaningless and Trump has already won.Do NOT let Trump do what Bush did to Gore. This time there is a genocide looming if the wrong guy gets it.
 
2020-08-30 6:34:20 PM  

detonator: AAAAGGGGHHHH: detonator: I've travelled abroad since the 1980's, even went through communist bloc countries then. The WORST customs treatment was always coming back into the USA.
I'm a blue-eyed honky too.

Gotta keep the yokels from finding out that not only is America not the greatest country in the world, it's also pretty god damn sh*tty compared to more evolved nations.

If the average American saw how much bang-for-buck value the average European's tax dollars are being well-spent for "socialist" programs like health care, education,Social Security, etc., we'd turn into a nation of Bernie Bros.

I was touring in punk rock bands back then but was smart enough to not look the part at customs. However, on one landing in Dallas from the UK, they went through our baggage and found some posters for our gigs in Berlin and Prague. Got the glove treatment on that one.
After that, we wised up and sent all of our promo and keepsakes ahead, and told the customs guys we were a country band that played George Jones covers.


Well, did you play country, or Western?
 
2020-08-30 6:35:07 PM  

hubiestubert: Y'all are going to make the slip past 50% a real humdinger, aren't you? Just got to get that last little bit of dickishness in now before the electorate and the representation takes a decided turn.


The way the far right is ramping up I don't think they're planning on letting the slip past 50% happen.

There's only one way they could realistically stop it, but anyone who thinks the far right isn't headed down that road full speed is either lying or has been in a coma for the last few years.
 
2020-08-30 6:36:36 PM  
White girl hippie here, with facial piercings and visible tattoos, and I can tell you that post 9/11, the amount of times I got "randomly" chosen to have my bags fully emptied and examined and/or be subjected to a full-body patdown was way too high to actually be random. I took a cross-country trip 4 months after 9/11, from and then back to New Jersey, and received no less than 7 "random" examinations between both the initial and return flight. In the year following that, I got "randomly" searched at the gate while on a layover when I had less than 45 minutes between flights. I live in Portland, Oregon now and there are way too many freaks like me living here to effectively screen all of us, so now all I have to worry about is getting shot because someone mistook my umbrella for a swordcane. No, really, that actually happened, too. Got confronted by a dude in a full body-armor shoving a goddamn M4 in my face, on a return flight from Georgia back in 2014. I haven't flown since, and I can't imagine that between the budget cuts, shutdowns and reduced hiring standards, the job performance of these security a-holes has somehow massively improved.

I can still recall the palpable frustration of having security tell me "this is for your own safety" while having my bags emptied and x-rayed for the third time in the space of an hour. Or how a "mistake in the computer" meant that when I got pulled over for any traffic infraction between 2001 and 2007, I had a 50% chance of having my car searched for drugs, and I have never been charged with any drug offences. I know people who have never had their cars searched in 40 years, but for me, I had mine searched 5 times in a 6 year period.

/end rant
//this country sucks balls
///one more slash for freedom!
 
2020-08-30 6:36:46 PM  
the real issue: when they get caught doing this shiat to a well-off, educated government official, only imagine how crappy they'd treat an actual cheaply dressed uneducated 'commoner'
 
2020-08-30 6:36:50 PM  

iheartscotch: Sounds like they were systematically harassing her. You don't get a passport fast-pass unless the Fed really wants you to.


Being an asshole seems to be a job requirement at CBP. And it appears to be a worldwide requirement. Canadian CBP is just as bad. And I'm white.
 
2020-08-30 6:37:25 PM  
adamatari:

fark the state department.

They should be fired for racism.
 
2020-08-30 6:38:18 PM  

bthom37: detonator: AAAAGGGGHHHH: detonator: I've travelled abroad since the 1980's, even went through communist bloc countries then. The WORST customs treatment was always coming back into the USA.
I'm a blue-eyed honky too.

Gotta keep the yokels from finding out that not only is America not the greatest country in the world, it's also pretty god damn sh*tty compared to more evolved nations.

If the average American saw how much bang-for-buck value the average European's tax dollars are being well-spent for "socialist" programs like health care, education,Social Security, etc., we'd turn into a nation of Bernie Bros.

I was touring in punk rock bands back then but was smart enough to not look the part at customs. However, on one landing in Dallas from the UK, they went through our baggage and found some posters for our gigs in Berlin and Prague. Got the glove treatment on that one.
After that, we wised up and sent all of our promo and keepsakes ahead, and told the customs guys we were a country band that played George Jones covers.

Well, did you play country, or Western?


Depended on what country we're talking about, but it was definitely western.
 
2020-08-30 6:42:00 PM  
That was one f'd up story
 
2020-08-30 6:42:18 PM  
Whatever. Get in line with the rest of us, Snowflake.  Wonder what she did to make the list?;
 
2020-08-30 6:43:40 PM  

Truck Fump: iheartscotch: Sounds like they were systematically harassing her. You don't get a passport fast-pass unless the Fed really wants you to.

Being an asshole seems to be a job requirement at CBP. And it appears to be a worldwide requirement. Canadian CBP is just as bad. And I'm white.


It's part of the job function.  Officer Smiley isn't going to trigger the guilty into nervous action the way Douchey McDouchebag will.
 
2020-08-30 6:47:21 PM  
You know this whole " being black" thing doesn't really sound like it's a great deal.
 
2020-08-30 6:47:22 PM  

Steampunk Gallagher: White girl hippie here, with facial piercings and visible tattoos, and I can tell you that post 9/11, the amount of times I got "randomly" chosen to have my bags fully emptied and examined and/or be subjected to a full-body patdown was way too high to actually be random. I took a cross-country trip 4 months after 9/11, from and then back to New Jersey, and received no less than 7 "random" examinations between both the initial and return flight. In the year following that, I got "randomly" searched at the gate while on a layover when I had less than 45 minutes between flights. I live in Portland, Oregon now and there are way too many freaks like me living here to effectively screen all of us, so now all I have to worry about is getting shot because someone mistook my umbrella for a swordcane. No, really, that actually happened, too. Got confronted by a dude in a full body-armor shoving a goddamn M4 in my face, on a return flight from Georgia back in 2014. I haven't flown since, and I can't imagine that between the budget cuts, shutdowns and reduced hiring standards, the job performance of these security a-holes has somehow massively improved.

I can still recall the palpable frustration of having security tell me "this is for your own safety" while having my bags emptied and x-rayed for the third time in the space of an hour. Or how a "mistake in the computer" meant that when I got pulled over for any traffic infraction between 2001 and 2007, I had a 50% chance of having my car searched for drugs, and I have never been charged with any drug offences. I know people who have never had their cars searched in 40 years, but for me, I had mine searched 5 times in a 6 year period.

/end rant
//this country sucks balls
///one more slash for freedom!


Unfortunately, once you make their list you're on it for pretty much life.
You can get all of the legal stuff like " governor's pardons" and have your file sealed  but then they'll just pull you over to ask you why and fark with you anyway.
 
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