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2020-08-28 7:33:20 PM  
Because there is an outsized percentage of people who, even though they're rich, famous, and successful, experience racism every day of their lives.

/DNRTFA
 
2020-08-28 7:41:58 PM  
For the same reason racists say NBA players "should appreciate what we let them have and shut up."
 
2020-08-28 7:41:59 PM  
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2020-08-28 9:03:43 PM  
Because each team is small and the pool of replacements is equally so (both from a skill, physical, and sociopolitical standpoint compared to other sports); suspending, fining, or otherwise strong-arming team members --especially when a sizable chunk of the league agrees--jeopardizes billions of dollars of white people money.  We saw what happens when a team simply refuses to play in the middle of the playoffs, and farkall can be done about it other than take the loss and accede to demands.
 
2020-08-28 9:12:59 PM  
Are you suggesting an economically-accessible sport whose rules favor and promote the players over their teams and organizations just happens to represent the interests of a predominantly-African-American player base?

Crap, I forgot to write a joke.  Maybe I'll claim that forgetting to write a joke was the joke.  Heh.  They'll never see it coming.
 
2020-08-28 9:21:10 PM  
Sports are one of the two ways of poverty for a lot of black people, and musicians have been talking this shiat for years to little avail.
 
2020-08-28 9:43:43 PM  
This was honestly the best story of the week, how the NBA teams are using their facilities for voting locations.

/I've got nuthin' else to say
 
2020-08-28 11:35:48 PM  

kevlar51: For the same reason racists say NBA players "should appreciate what we let them have and shut up."


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2020-08-29 1:10:44 AM  

kevlar51: For the same reason racists say NBA players "should appreciate what we let them have and shut up."


Basketball players protest systemic racism and police brutality: "I don't want sports and politics to mix. They should just play"

Football coach endorses the president at the Republican Convention: *Crickets*
 
2020-08-29 1:28:26 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Are you suggesting an economically-accessible sport whose rules favor and promote the players over their teams and organizations just happens to represent the interests of a predominantly-African-American player base?

Crap, I forgot to write a joke.  Maybe I'll claim that forgetting to write a joke was the joke.  Heh.  They'll never see it coming.


You stole that from Mallard Filmore.  But in your defense, Mallard stole it from a blackduck.
 
2020-08-29 1:50:53 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Mike_LowELL: Are you suggesting an economically-accessible sport whose rules favor and promote the players over their teams and organizations just happens to represent the interests of a predominantly-African-American player base?

Crap, I forgot to write a joke.  Maybe I'll claim that forgetting to write a joke was the joke.  Heh.  They'll never see it coming.

You stole that from Mallard Filmore.  But in your defense, Mallard stole it from a blackduck.


Yet, Rapmaster2000 is just a good duck by mentioning  this

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2020-08-29 2:02:14 AM  

koder: Because each team is small and the pool of replacements is equally so (both from a skill, physical, and sociopolitical standpoint compared to other sports); suspending, fining, or otherwise strong-arming team members --especially when a sizable chunk of the league agrees--jeopardizes billions of dollars of white people money.  We saw what happens when a team simply refuses to play in the middle of the playoffs, and farkall can be done about it other than take the loss and accede to demands.


Yep. It reminds me of the "Porters 5 Forces" theory of business strategy. This is called "power of suppliers." Given that teams have so few people and that one or two "stars" on a team can be the difference between middling and championships, the labour force has outsize power compared to management during negotiations.
 
2020-08-29 2:30:47 AM  
Basketball is not even as far ahead as women's sports, but nobody pays attention to those...

Also, China sorta rings a bell. Hong Kong? No? Yeah...
 
2020-08-29 2:57:09 AM  

puffy999: Also, China sorta rings a bell. Hong Kong? No? Yeah...


Yeah, the group of (almost entirely) billionaire white guys absolutely are not ahead when it comes to social justice.

The group that is composed of largely black men who are secure in their future, the vast majority of whom don't come from wealthy families are a bit different.
 
2020-08-29 3:02:45 AM  
the NHL was slow to assert themselves in the most recent conversation.

Because 75% of the players are NOT American. Would you really want non-Americans telling America how to run their country? Most of them do not feel it is their place to speak up and get involved in American politics. They are foreigners with working visas, not naturalized voting Americans.

Be that as it may, the players did get together on Thursday morning to discuss things and they decided that they preferred to stand with their fellow athletes in solidarity.

There's nothing racist here. It's a different sport that's more international in participation -- different cultures, different attitudes and nationalities. A decision like this is not something they can make instantly. They're not a hivemind.

The NHL Playoffs aren't even being played in America -- the respective bubbles in Edmonton and Toronto have insulated the players from the urban carnage going on in American cities.
 
2020-08-29 3:21:50 AM  

Ishkur: the NHL was slow to assert themselves in the most recent conversation.

Because 75% of the players are NOT American. Would you really want non-Americans telling America how to run their country? Most of them do not feel it is their place to speak up and get involved in American politics. They are foreigners with working visas, not naturalized voting Americans.

Be that as it may, the players did get together on Thursday morning to discuss things and they decided that they preferred to stand with their fellow athletes in solidarity.

There's nothing racist here. It's a different sport that's more international in participation -- different cultures, different attitudes and nationalities. A decision like this is not something they can make instantly. They're not a hivemind.

The NHL Playoffs aren't even being played in America -- the respective bubbles in Edmonton and Toronto have insulated the players from the urban carnage going on in American cities.


All of this.

I don't mind the NHL showing solidarity with the NBA and the movement, but the clowns who said that because the NHL played games Wednesday that they are racist pissed me off.

Thoughts from Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand
 
2020-08-29 3:29:20 AM  

fatalvenom: but the clowns who said that because the NHL played games Wednesday that they are racist pissed me off.


Not everybody played on Wednesday.

The Bruins took the night off.

/ba-dump tsh!
 
2020-08-29 5:26:05 AM  

Ishkur: fatalvenom: but the clowns who said that because the NHL played games Wednesday that they are racist pissed me off.

Not everybody played on Wednesday.

The Bruins took the night off.

/ba-dump tsh!


In reality, I wish they would have canceled the games Wednesday night to be honest, that way I wouldn't have had to watch that shiatshow.
 
2020-08-29 7:01:00 AM  
LOL "one step ahead"
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2020-08-29 7:24:08 AM  
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2020-08-29 8:13:25 AM  
The message is falling on deaf ears now in the majority of society. It's kind of like beating a horse too much. People understand and know that changes need to be made as a whole in society, but walking out and protesting every single incident that occurs is getting tiresome. Since 2015 white people shot and killed by police out paces blacks by 2-1. So obviously a change is needed in the structure of law enforcement. I'm not sure refusing to play a game that has rewarded athletes with more money than they deserve is the correct way to get the message out, because contrary to what they believe a good portion of America could care less who wins or loses the NBA/NHL/NFL championship.
 
2020-08-29 8:37:37 AM  

phooeypapa: The message is falling on deaf ears now in the majority of society. It's kind of like beating a horse too much. People understand and know that changes need to be made as a whole in society, but walking out and protesting every single incident that occurs is getting tiresome. Since 2015 white people shot and killed by police out paces blacks by 2-1. So obviously a change is needed in the structure of law enforcement. I'm not sure refusing to play a game that has rewarded athletes with more money than they deserve is the correct way to get the message out, because contrary to what they believe a good portion of America could care less who wins or loses the NBA/NHL/NFL championship.


Less than they deserve?  They get exactly what they "deserve".  Every worker gets what they deserve whether they understand why or not.  You deserve what you can negotiate.
 
2020-08-29 9:05:44 AM  

puffy999: Basketball is not even as far ahead as women's sports, but nobody pays attention to those...

Also, China sorta rings a bell. Hong Kong? No? Yeah...


As Stan Van Gundy pointed out, I dunno, you can kinda credit the NBA with driving awareness of what's happening in China - after all, the only time people even bring it up is to discredit anything they do in America.
 
2020-08-29 9:30:21 AM  
Is this the thread where people who don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong use it as a cudgel against basketball players thinking it invalidates their position on social justice in America?
 
2020-08-29 9:32:09 AM  

IAmRight: puffy999: Basketball is not even as far ahead as women's sports, but nobody pays attention to those...

Also, China sorta rings a bell. Hong Kong? No? Yeah...

As Stan Van Gundy pointed out, I dunno, you can kinda credit the NBA with driving awareness of what's happening in China - after all, the only time people even bring it up is to discredit anything they do in America.


It's kind of like whenever you mention spending money to fix something and someone, in an effort to discredit your idea, says "What about homeless veterans?"  And they're right. More should be done about that.
 
2020-08-29 9:42:32 AM  
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2020-08-29 9:45:20 AM  

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You forgot "but Clinton!".
 
2020-08-29 9:53:25 AM  

Ishkur: the NHL was slow to assert themselves in the most recent conversation.

Because 75% of the players are NOT American. Would you really want non-Americans telling America how to run their country? Most of them do not feel it is their place to speak up and get involved in American politics. They are foreigners with working visas, not naturalized voting Americans.

Be that as it may, the players did get together on Thursday morning to discuss things and they decided that they preferred to stand with their fellow athletes in solidarity.

There's nothing racist here. It's a different sport that's more international in participation -- different cultures, different attitudes and nationalities. A decision like this is not something they can make instantly. They're not a hivemind.

The NHL Playoffs aren't even being played in America -- the respective bubbles in Edmonton and Toronto have insulated the players from the urban carnage going on in American cities.


All of THIS.
 
2020-08-29 10:04:38 AM  
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2020-08-29 11:09:45 AM  
Unless, of course, someone protests police brutality towards Chinese people, then they are like "whoa, slow your roll.. Chinese people buy sneakers too"
 
2020-08-29 11:13:23 AM  

IAmRight: puffy999: Basketball is not even as far ahead as women's sports, but nobody pays attention to those...

Also, China sorta rings a bell. Hong Kong? No? Yeah...

As Stan Van Gundy pointed out, I dunno, you can kinda credit the NBA with driving awareness of what's happening in China - after all, the only time people even bring it up is to discredit anything they do in America.


Stan was disingenuous as fark.  Several prominent NBA figures, actively criticized a dude for posting a tweet criticizing China.  The only way LeBron drove awareness of what's happening in China was having a press conference to shiat on Morey for protesting police brutality.
 
2020-08-29 11:27:50 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Is this the thread where people who don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong use it as a cudgel against basketball players thinking it invalidates their position on social justice in America?


Could you point out these people in this thread that don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong, please?  I really would like to give them a piece of my mind...and I'd love to find out what LeBron's Fark handle is.
 
2020-08-29 11:30:40 AM  

Magnus: UNC_Samurai: Is this the thread where people who don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong use it as a cudgel against basketball players thinking it invalidates their position on social justice in America?

Could you point out these people in this thread that don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong, please?  I really would like to give them a piece of my mind...and I'd love to find out what LeBron's Fark handle is.


Scroll up and look at who's posting racist memes.
 
2020-08-29 11:39:06 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Magnus: UNC_Samurai: Is this the thread where people who don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong use it as a cudgel against basketball players thinking it invalidates their position on social justice in America?

Could you point out these people in this thread that don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong, please?  I really would like to give them a piece of my mind...and I'd love to find out what LeBron's Fark handle is.

Scroll up and look at who's posting racist memes.


Maybe I have them on my ignore list, but I'm not sure you understand what the word "racist" means.  Calling out LeBron and the NBA on their hypocrisy from their differing stances with regards to Hong Kong and BLM protests is not racist.  By referring to that as "racist", you dilute the word of its meaning and reduce the power that word has to impact actual racists.
 
2020-08-29 11:45:52 AM  

Magnus: UNC_Samurai: Magnus: UNC_Samurai: Is this the thread where people who don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong use it as a cudgel against basketball players thinking it invalidates their position on social justice in America?

Could you point out these people in this thread that don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong, please?  I really would like to give them a piece of my mind...and I'd love to find out what LeBron's Fark handle is.

Scroll up and look at who's posting racist memes.

Maybe I have them on my ignore list, but I'm not sure you understand what the word "racist" means.  Calling out LeBron and the NBA on their hypocrisy from their differing stances with regards to Hong Kong and BLM protests is not racist.  By referring to that as "racist", you dilute the word of its meaning and reduce the power that word has to impact actual racists.


Labeling the protests as "support for violent criminals" is a racist dog whistle, full stop.
 
2020-08-29 11:47:09 AM  

Magnus: UNC_Samurai: Magnus: UNC_Samurai: Is this the thread where people who don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong use it as a cudgel against basketball players thinking it invalidates their position on social justice in America?

Could you point out these people in this thread that don't actually give a shiat about Hong Kong, please?  I really would like to give them a piece of my mind...and I'd love to find out what LeBron's Fark handle is.

Scroll up and look at who's posting racist memes.

Maybe I have them on my ignore list, but I'm not sure you understand what the word "racist" means.  Calling out LeBron and the NBA on their hypocrisy from their differing stances with regards to Hong Kong and BLM protests is not racist.  By referring to that as "racist", you dilute the word of its meaning and reduce the power that word has to impact actual racists.


Hell, its not even about LeBron not protesting Hong Kong.  It makes perfect sense to care more about injustice thats closer to home.   But he literally called someone uneducated and misinformed for criticizing china.   Amusingly the person he called "uneducated" has a masters from MIT whereas he *checks notes* graduated high school.
 
2020-08-29 11:55:27 AM  
Although I am happy they delayed the playoffs long enough for Westbrook to get back.
 
2020-08-29 11:59:39 AM  

phooeypapa: a game that has rewarded athletes with more money than they deserve


No, they worked hard their entire lives, for thousands of hours perfecting their craft, to deserve that money. They farking earned it.

The only people who has more money than they deserve are their white owners.
 
2020-08-29 12:01:03 PM  

phooeypapa: a game that has rewarded athletes with more money than they deserve


I think you mean owners.
 
2020-08-29 12:04:58 PM  

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Lebron is not a Chinese citizen and as such is not in a position to criticize another country's social policies. Leave international diplomacy to the State Department.

Just like how the vast majority of hockey players are not American citizens and as such are in no position to criticize American culture.
 
2020-08-29 12:08:37 PM  

Ishkur: Lebron is not a Chinese citizen and as such is not in a position to criticize another country's social policies. Leave international diplomacy to the State Department.


I guess we were in no position to criticize the holocaust back in the day, not being German citizens and all.
 
2020-08-29 12:44:28 PM  

lilplatinum: I guess we were in no position to criticize the holocaust back in the day, not being German citizens and all.


Yes, because not being at war with China is exactly the same as being at war with Germany.

But thank you for the Godwin.
 
2020-08-29 1:10:23 PM  

Ishkur: lilplatinum: I guess we were in no position to criticize the holocaust back in the day, not being German citizens and all.

Yes, because not being at war with China is exactly the same as being at war with Germany.

But thank you for the Godwin.


The idea that we can't condem genocide or injustice because we aren't a national is farking stupid.

Is LeBron obligated to opine on world affairs?   No, but Morey did LeBron essentially told him to shut up and dribble.  Because he is a hypocrite who cares about social justice until it costs him sneaker sales.
 
2020-08-29 1:24:34 PM  

lilplatinum: The idea that we can't condem genocide or injustice because we aren't a national is farking stupid.


No President, celebrity, or public figure has ever made genocide prevention a priority and no President, celebrity, or public figure has ever suffered politically for their indifference to its occurrence.
 
2020-08-29 1:38:56 PM  

Ishkur: lilplatinum: The idea that we can't condem genocide or injustice because we aren't a national is farking stupid.

No President, celebrity, or public figure has ever made genocide prevention a priority and no President, celebrity, or public figure has ever suffered politically for their indifference to its occurrence.


Im not criticizing him for not making it a priority or for indifference.  I am criticizing him for actively attacking someone for taking a stance against police brutality and then expecting us to care when his hypocritical ass finally decides police brutality is wrong.

fark him.
 
2020-08-29 1:57:10 PM  

lilplatinum: Ishkur: lilplatinum: I guess we were in no position to criticize the holocaust back in the day, not being German citizens and all.

Yes, because not being at war with China is exactly the same as being at war with Germany.

But thank you for the Godwin.

The idea that we can't condem genocide or injustice because we aren't a national is farking stupid.

Is LeBron obligated to opine on world affairs?   No, but Morey did LeBron essentially told him to shut up and dribble.  Because he is a hypocrite who cares about social justice until it costs him sneaker sales.


He didn't say Morey was misinformed/uneducated about China/Hong Kong, just "the situation", and said he wasn't arguing the content of the tweet.

Here are the actual quotes from articles from the time, rather than the misquotes that have been put forth by conservative talking heads since: https://www.google.com/amp/s/w​ww.espn.​com/nba/story/_/id/27847951/daryl-more​y-was-misinformed-sending-tweet-china-​hong-kong%3fplatform=amp

It's pretty clear in context that he was pissed because Morey tweeted that while he and a bunch of NBA players were physically in China, endangering them.
 
2020-08-29 2:05:34 PM  
I'm sure if you were part of a business contingent visiting a foreign country known for their authoritarianism, you'd LOVE an exec from your company, who was back at home, criticizing said country publicly in the middle of your very public visit, though.

But hey, intentionally misrepresenting comments about an unrelated topic in order to avoid the fact that you don't have a legitimate argument against their point about the ills within American policing...you're definitely arguing in good faith.
 
2020-08-29 2:13:43 PM  

lilplatinum: Im not criticizing him for not making it a priority or for indifference. I am criticizing him for actively attacking someone for taking a stance against police brutality and then expecting us to care when his hypocritical ass finally decides police brutality is wrong.


This is a strawman argument.

Recalibrate your outrage.
 
2020-08-29 6:19:16 PM  

IAmRight: lilplatinum: Ishkur: lilplatinum: I guess we were in no position to criticize the holocaust back in the day, not being German citizens and all.

Yes, because not being at war with China is exactly the same as being at war with Germany.

But thank you for the Godwin.

The idea that we can't condem genocide or injustice because we aren't a national is farking stupid.

Is LeBron obligated to opine on world affairs?   No, but Morey did LeBron essentially told him to shut up and dribble.  Because he is a hypocrite who cares about social justice until it costs him sneaker sales.

He didn't say Morey was misinformed/uneducated about China/Hong Kong, just "the situation", and said he wasn't arguing the content of the tweet.

Here are the actual quotes from articles from the time, rather than the misquotes that have been put forth by conservative talking heads since: https://www.google.com/amp/s/ww​w.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27847951/dar​yl-morey-was-misinformed-sending-tweet​-china-hong-kong%3fplatform=amp

It's pretty clear in context that he was pissed because Morey tweeted that while he and a bunch of NBA players were physically in China, endangering them.


They weren't "in danger" of anything except losing money, which is obviously far more important than social justice.
 
2020-08-29 6:22:11 PM  

IAmRight: But hey, intentionally misrepresenting comments about an unrelated topic in order to avoid the fact that you don't have a legitimate argument against their point about the ills within American policing...you're definitely arguing in good faith.


It's not an unrelated topic, it was police brutalizing people.

I'm not arguing against their point now, the US police are over militarized fascists who should be defunded and reformed.  But LeBron James is a raging hypocrite who only cares about justice when it ain't farking up his sneaker deals.
 
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