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(The Hill)   CDC director: My agency said WHAT about testing earlier this week? Jesus, somebody must have been drunk or high or something, sorry. Just ignore that BS, and pretend we never said anything   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-08-27 2:19:52 PM  
FTA: "Testing is meant to drive actions and achieve specific public health objectives."

So, where the CDC guidelines repeatedly say the word "need", what objectives were the defining basis for the CDC's determination of those needs?
 
2020-08-27 2:20:36 PM  
So all this bullshiat is just the Trump Administration bullying them into backing off on tests?
 
2020-08-27 2:22:20 PM  

whidbey: So all this bullshiat is just the Trump Administration bullying them into backing off on tests?


That, and they could have a bullshiat talking point for their RNC I suspect...
 
2020-08-27 2:28:49 PM  
On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.
 
2020-08-27 2:31:56 PM  

Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.


I used to watch that show.
 
2020-08-27 2:43:33 PM  
Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...
 
2020-08-27 2:47:40 PM  

OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...


I guess this is a good time to reiterate that NO schools should be reopening during this pandemic.
 
2020-08-27 2:50:41 PM  
Are we all supposed to ignore that C Everett Koop is back from the dead? Watch the skies for tofu, people.
 
2020-08-27 2:50:58 PM  

whidbey: Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.

I used to watch that show.


I was more fond of McMillan & Wife.
 
2020-08-27 2:51:21 PM  
Was that the article that started with "An unnamed official said..."? I didn't read any further than that.
 
2020-08-27 2:52:58 PM  

whidbey: OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...

I guess this is a good time to reiterate that NO schools should be reopening during this pandemic.


Liberty University should
 
2020-08-27 2:53:14 PM  

Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.


I watched the TV show back in the 70s... wouldn't really say I knew him though
 
2020-08-27 2:53:18 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: whidbey: Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.

I used to watch that show.

I was more fond of McMillan & Wife.


Columbo #1
 
2020-08-27 2:54:15 PM  

whidbey: So all this bullshiat is just the Trump Administration bullying them into backing off on tests?


Yes, absolutely.
 
2020-08-27 2:56:14 PM  
It's still not "pretend we never said anything", because they didn't completely walk back the guidance:

"But even his Thursday statement falls short of previous guidance, in which the CDC recommended contacts of those infected with the virus be tested specifically because of the threat of asymptomatic or presymptomatic transmission."
 
2020-08-27 2:57:08 PM  
Shiate, the constant, never, ever ending of the news whiplash is unreal. Imma goin' with: COVID is deadly. Wear a mask. Get tested. Wash yer hands. Isolate as best you can.
Kids: No school. There have been no solutions to this.
For those who are dealing with unemployment, possible eviction, I do not have legal solutions to this. Go to teh interwebs and start researching.
 
2020-08-27 2:58:09 PM  
"Redfield said the guidelines issued on Monday had been coordinated with the White House coronavirus task force. The new guidance comes as the number of coronavirus tests across the United States has fallen in recent weeks."

Translation: Trump told me to and I thought we could get away with it, but I guess people noticed. Oops. Better wait until people are better distracted next time.
 
2020-08-27 2:58:37 PM  
"Everyone who wants a test, can get a test"

That was promised back in March... still waiting...
 
2020-08-27 2:58:47 PM  
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2020-08-27 2:59:30 PM  

Dictatorial_Flair: "Redfield said the guidelines issued on Monday had been coordinated with the White House coronavirus task force. The new guidance comes as the number of coronavirus tests across the United States has fallen in recent weeks."

Translation: Trump told me to and I thought we could get away with it, but I guess people noticed. Oops. Better wait until people are better distracted next time.


And they "coordinated" with the task force while Fauci was in surgery having a throat polyp removed... convenient timing
 
2020-08-27 3:02:01 PM  
So related, but not entirely... Do anyone else's ad blockers/privacy filters fark up The Hill? I use Brave on my phone. If I have their privacy filter on, then random places in the articles don't have spaces between words. As soon as I turn the thing off, the spacing is correct.
 
2020-08-27 3:05:02 PM  
What a mess.
 
2020-08-27 3:06:58 PM  

whidbey: OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...

I guess this is a good time to reiterate that NO schools should be reopening during this pandemic.


My wife (teacher) just got word they're going back on the 8th. Guess we're back in business.
 
2020-08-27 3:07:20 PM  
Since Mnuchin felt he could interfere with USPS operations I don't see why he wouldn't go behind the CDC director's back and force some new guidelines.
 
2020-08-27 3:08:08 PM  
Could be some evil Trumpers in the CDC that want to muck everything up. They send out a press release in the CDCs name and the damage is done.
 
2020-08-27 3:09:03 PM  

OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...


The self reporting page for covid19 staff/students was taken down once the dorms opened at my institution
 
2020-08-27 3:09:23 PM  
This reminds me of what Fiona Hill said about their being two separate simultaneous agendas of every branch of government. The people who are doing their damn jobs and stick to the facts or science and the messaging which gets overlaid by the Trump administration to mislead people from the truth of what the hell is going on.
 
2020-08-27 3:09:54 PM  
All for Lord God Trump.

People are dead because they want votes for this shiatbag.
 
2020-08-27 3:13:52 PM  

whidbey: Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.

I used to watch that show.


Barry Newman was cool in Petrocelli, but nowhere near as cool as he was in Vanishing Point.
 
2020-08-27 3:16:59 PM  
It's almost like our president is a complete moron...or a Russian agent.

Or, you know...both.
 
2020-08-27 3:19:47 PM  

weirdneighbour: Columbo #1


Okay, you asked for it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VI9m​U​yG_f0

(yes, it's what you think it is)
 
2020-08-27 3:19:56 PM  

Ecobuckeye: whidbey: OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...

I guess this is a good time to reiterate that NO schools should be reopening during this pandemic.

My wife (teacher) just got word they're going back on the 8th. Guess we're back in business.


Got a call from the kid's school, asking when I'd be sending the kids back now that the cases are decreasing locally. Told them I already signed the kids up for the district's virtual thing, the district wants the kids in that for at least a semester, and I'd rather keep the kids isolated until there's a widely available vaccine.

/Good luck to your wife, though
 
2020-08-27 3:20:12 PM  

Ecobuckeye: whidbey: OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...

I guess this is a good time to reiterate that NO schools should be reopening during this pandemic.

My wife (teacher) just got word they're going back on the 8th. Guess we're back in business.


Our school went back on Monday.  This next year is going to hurt, but my wife (teacher) resigned.  We pulled both kids out and will home school.  I know it's not a solution that everyone has the privilege of doing, but since literally no one is doing anything to protect my family - it all falls on us to protect ourselves.

My heart goes out to everyone who must participate in this idiotic experiment.
 
2020-08-27 3:23:53 PM  

Brian The Fist: Ecobuckeye: whidbey: OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...

I guess this is a good time to reiterate that NO schools should be reopening during this pandemic.

My wife (teacher) just got word they're going back on the 8th. Guess we're back in business.

Our school went back on Monday.  This next year is going to hurt, but my wife (teacher) resigned.  We pulled both kids out and will home school.  I know it's not a solution that everyone has the privilege of doing, but since literally no one is doing anything to protect my family - it all falls on us to protect ourselves.

My heart goes out to everyone who must participate in this idiotic experiment.


That may happen. She's a head start teacher, with kids that spit and hit and shiat and need to be fed and there is simply no way to do that safely. No way. I know somebody needs to take care of these kids, but I have kids of my own and I don't want to leave them as orphans, either, because some politician farked up.
 
2020-08-27 3:24:06 PM  

Brian The Fist: Ecobuckeye: whidbey: OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...

I guess this is a good time to reiterate that NO schools should be reopening during this pandemic.

My wife (teacher) just got word they're going back on the 8th. Guess we're back in business.

Our school went back on Monday.  This next year is going to hurt, but my wife (teacher) resigned.  We pulled both kids out and will home school.  I know it's not a solution that everyone has the privilege of doing, but since literally no one is doing anything to protect my family - it all falls on us to protect ourselves.

My heart goes out to everyone who must participate in this idiotic experiment.


I'm sorry you had to make that decision. The inevitable open/close wackamole that's going to happen with Covid flairs at schools will be more disruptive to kids than distance learning this year.
 
2020-08-27 3:24:30 PM  
"Anybody that wants a test can get a test." - Trump, 6 March.
 
2020-08-27 3:24:51 PM  

Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.


Can't find that in TFA. Wrong thread? Anyone know what the right thread is? I want to know what Dumpy said when he thought the cameras were off.
 
2020-08-27 3:28:31 PM  

Fireproof: Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.

Can't find that in TFA. Wrong thread? Anyone know what the right thread is? I want to know what Dumpy said when he thought the cameras were off.


https://www.fark.com/goto/10932138/ww​w​.thedailybeast.com/video-trump-claims-​he-bullied-better-business-bureau-into​-better-trump-u-ratin
 
2020-08-27 3:29:16 PM  
When your party's overarching goal is short-term profits at the expense of even the most vital of human concerns such as public health, it would be very appropriate if you refrained from farking meddling with the _______.

__FDA__
__ EPA__
__ CDC__
__HHS__
etc ad infinitum.
 
2020-08-27 3:29:30 PM  

Znuh: All for Lord God Trump.

People are dead because they want votes for this shiatbag.


Well you have to see it from their point of view.  Those aren't PEOPLE people - hell half of 'em aren't even white, and they're all poors!  No one that matters gets diseases, those are for the filthy animals eking out an hellish dystopian existence on $250k a year FFS.
 
2020-08-27 3:31:23 PM  

Brandi Morgan: whidbey: Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.

I used to watch that show.

Barry Newman was cool in Petrocelli, but nowhere near as cool as he was in Vanishing Point.


Vanishing Point, with Barry Newman, was awesome.  The remake... didn't see it
 
2020-08-27 3:32:15 PM  
Way ahead of you.
 
2020-08-27 3:35:05 PM  
Republicans always lie.
 
2020-08-27 3:38:19 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Fireproof: Badmoodman: On the video, Trump and attorney Daniel Petrocelli appear to be unaware that cameras were still rolling during a break in the proceedings.


Good grief, I know Petrocelli. Our kids were in grade school together.

Can't find that in TFA. Wrong thread? Anyone know what the right thread is? I want to know what Dumpy said when he thought the cameras were off.

https://www.fark.com/goto/10932138/www​.thedailybeast.com/video-trump-claims-​he-bullied-better-business-bureau-into​-better-trump-u-ratin


Thanks.
 
2020-08-27 3:40:03 PM  

whidbey: OldRod: Problem is, the damage is done.

Colleges are adopting the new CDC guidelines to keep their case #s from skyrocketing.  My son's school is one of them - they started their semester last week, so I am NOT getting a kick out of this...

I guess this is a good time to reiterate that NO schools should be reopening during this pandemic.


But whar parents go? Whar!?
 
2020-08-27 3:52:17 PM  
"I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman."
 
2020-08-27 3:54:23 PM  

whidbey: So all this bullshiat is just the Trump Administration bullying them into backing off on tests?


yep. there's a green article from Politico that gets into chapter and verse on that that should go live soon
 
2020-08-27 3:54:42 PM  

abb3w: FTA: "Testing is meant to drive actions and achieve specific public health objectives."

So, where the CDC guidelines repeatedly say the word "need", what objectives were the defining basis for the CDC's determination of those needs?


The need is Trump wanting time reduce the number of positive cases because COVID makes him look bad. Like most of Trump's actions, it unbelievably stupid and short-sighted. Yes, it will reduce the number of positive cases for September by not testing people who were exposed to COVID who currently have no symptoms, but it hides the scale of the outbreak and allows an outbreak to grow out of control because data suggests at least 50% of transmission comes from presymptomatic people. It's amazingly short-sighted because it just puts off the next major spike until October and November, just in time to create a nasty October surprise for Trump.
 
2020-08-27 3:57:39 PM  
Remember, if we don't test for hurricanes, there will be no more hurricanes.

/stolen from Twitter
 
2020-08-27 4:16:19 PM  

greentea1985: abb3w: FTA: "Testing is meant to drive actions and achieve specific public health objectives."

So, where the CDC guidelines repeatedly say the word "need", what objectives were the defining basis for the CDC's determination of those needs?

The need is Trump wanting time reduce the number of positive cases because COVID makes him look bad. Like most of Trump's actions, it unbelievably stupid and short-sighted. Yes, it will reduce the number of positive cases for September by not testing people who were exposed to COVID who currently have no symptoms, but it hides the scale of the outbreak and allows an outbreak to grow out of control because data suggests at least 50% of transmission comes from presymptomatic people. It's amazingly short-sighted because it just puts off the next major spike until October and November, just in time to create a nasty October surprise for Trump.


I think you're giving them too much credit. There will be no October Surprise for Trump if there's a major spike because they've already declared any such major spike to be fake news, and if they're no longer testing, then there'll be no way to report the major spike in the first place.

Fox has already got it in all of their heads that the death counts are a fabrication, and a conspiracy by the Deep State, doctors, and insurance companies to drive up Covid deaths to make money... somehow. They will be lying there in a hospital bed literally dying of Covid and still claim it's a hoax while voting for Trump.
 
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