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2020-08-27 2:00:04 PM  
This was the greatest sacrifice for justice ever undertaken by man.
 
2020-08-27 2:09:40 PM  
Do NBA players really think the likes of James Dolan and Robert Sarver are even capable of thinking about social justice, let alone do something meaningful?
 
2020-08-27 2:10:42 PM  
They must have heard the report that Jacob was going for his knife.
 
2020-08-27 2:11:50 PM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: They must have heard the report that Jacob was going for his knife.


They probably read the report that he did 2 PCPs and was going totally crazy.
 
2020-08-27 2:16:31 PM  
Meanwhile the NHL has just cancelled today's games.
 
2020-08-27 2:26:02 PM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: They must have heard the report that Jacob was going for his knife.


With that kind of ESP, why did the cop let things get to that point in the first place unless he's a racist POS anyway?
 
2020-08-27 2:27:16 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Cat Food Sandwiches: They must have heard the report that Jacob was going for his knife.

With that kind of ESP, why did the cop let things get to that point in the first place unless he's a racist POS anyway?


Ask yourself, what kind of a man carries a knife with them?  A criminal out to do crimes, that's who.  Also, he had brake fluid and gasoline in that car, which you can use to make SuperMeth.
 
2020-08-27 2:29:12 PM  

Ishkur: Meanwhile the NHL has just cancelled today's games.


When was that formally announced? Last I read the HDA was asking for postponement.
 
2020-08-27 2:30:40 PM  
I think they need to plan this better (I get that this was a hurried, semi-spontaneous thing due to current events).  Have specific demands - actionable items that you want done.  And then pick a game 5 of the Finals.  That way, only a couple of dozen players are affected, but the impact is maximum.
 
2020-08-27 2:36:03 PM  

LessO2: Do NBA players really think the likes of James Dolan and Robert Sarver are even capable of thinking about social justice, let alone do something meaningful?


Those guys are no longer necessarily the norm.  They're thinking more along the lines of Cuban and Ballmer, I think.  The Bucks owners claim to be fully on board. Of course, at some point, someone needs to start outlining goals.

As a result of those talks, all players were able to agree to resume the season, per Wojnarowski.

Of course it's per Woj.

LeBron James said in the meeting he wants the team owners to be more involved and take action.

I agree and I hope they will.  But again, what type of action?
 
2020-08-27 2:40:59 PM  

LessO2: Do NBA players really think the likes of James Dolan and Robert Sarver are even capable of thinking about social justice, let alone do something meaningful?


Are those people in any way related to the playoffs?
 
2020-08-27 2:41:35 PM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: They must have heard the report that Jacob was going for his knife.


The report ... from the police ?
 
2020-08-27 2:47:36 PM  

Ishkur: Meanwhile the NHL has just cancelled today's games.


I know that is the strong rumor going around, but i haven't seen anything official yet.

I mean to be fair to the NHL they were in a no win situation regardless of what they did.

I don't think cancelling the game though is going to help solve racial issues in Philly or Long Island though.
 
2020-08-27 2:48:48 PM  

Naido: I agree and I hope they will. But again, what type of action?


Hopefully the one white people are known for: Donate money.
 
2020-08-27 2:51:36 PM  

LineNoise: Ishkur: Meanwhile the NHL has just cancelled today's games.

I know that is the strong rumor going around, but i haven't seen anything official yet.

I mean to be fair to the NHL they were in a no win situation regardless of what they did.

I don't think cancelling the game though is going to help solve racial issues in Philly or Long Island though.


I'm going to repost what I wrote in the other thread:

I submit that the NHL players should start a fund, or donate their Stanley Cup bonus money, to worthy causes supporting racial equality and social justice. It is a gesture that demonstrates, more than the flowery pointlessness of taking a knee or sending thoughts and prayers, that the players are willing to make sacrifices for a greater social order, and to let the world know that these Playoffs for now on are in service to this cause. They are playing for BLM rather than striking for BLM.

I would like it if the advertisers and broadcasters and NHL owners who all make money off these games to do the same, but that's up to them. It's funny how when something like this happens the first finger we point is at the athletes and not their immensely rich white 1% owners who have generationally facilitated this type of culture in the first place.
 
2020-08-27 2:55:29 PM  

LineNoise: Ishkur: Meanwhile the NHL has just cancelled today's games.

I know that is the strong rumor going around, but i haven't seen anything official yet.

I mean to be fair to the NHL they were in a no win situation regardless of what they did.

I don't think cancelling the game though is going to help solve racial issues in Philly or Long Island though.


It's official https://www.espn.com/nhl/sto​ry/_/id/29​754002/flyers-islanders-golden-knights​-canucks-played-thursday
 
2020-08-27 2:55:40 PM  
The NBA season was going again? Had no idea!
 
2020-08-27 2:59:09 PM  

Ishkur: I'm going to repost what I wrote in the other thread:

I submit that the NHL players should start a fund, or donate their Stanley Cup bonus money, to worthy causes supporting racial equality and social justice. It is a gesture that demonstrates, more than the flowery pointlessness of taking a knee or sending thoughts and prayers, that the players are willing to make sacrifices for a greater social order, and to let the world know that these Playoffs for now on are in service to this cause. They are playing for BLM rather than striking for BLM.

I would like it if the advertisers and broadcasters and NHL owners who all make money off these games to do the same, but that's up to them. It's funny how when something like this happens the first finger we point is at the athletes and not their immensely rich white 1% owners who have generationally facilitated this type of culture in the first place.


I agree with that...to an extent....

I support the players for using their voice to elevate a message, but i was already there, as i'd imagine a good number of hockey and basketball fans are. I mean this isn't like Nascar calling off the Daytona 500 or something.

As much as i was looking forward to tonights game, hey hopefully we play tomorrow and i don't have to get up for work in the morning and can tie one on.....but...well...that isn't much of a message.

But i would like to see the players put their money where their mouth is. Use this time to engage with fans who would have otherwise been watching the game. I mean if there is one sport that can sit there and talk about diversity and being on a team with people "different" than you its hockey. I mean, not the same message of racial injustice and purely black and white, but of having to understand people who didn't come from the same background as you or share the same experiences, and how you are all brothers. That should be hockeys message.
 
2020-08-27 3:02:22 PM  
It should be contingent on a complete blackout of professional sports for Kenosha, WI (and other districts where these egregious police shootings happened) until the cops involved are sentenced.
 
2020-08-27 3:04:16 PM  

Ishkur: It is a gesture that demonstrates, more than the flowery pointlessness of taking a knee


Holy f*ck guys, check it out.  This guy is the only person on earth to have not read 10,000 Kaepernick kneeling stories.
 
2020-08-27 3:05:05 PM  
I wonder if they spent last night like I did. Getting drunk, doing drugs, and shooting darts. I shot a 3.8 one of my cricket games, and a 76 one of my 501DO games. (Steel tip)
 
2020-08-27 3:15:45 PM  
There is very little change the players can force directly.  The only thing I can think of would be to force the owners to open the arenas to voter registration drives weekly with provided transportation until the election, then have the arenas open for polling on election day.  And it is probably too late to do that in many areas.
 
2020-08-27 3:52:40 PM  

brizzle365: sounds an awful lot like you would like them to protest in a way that you like, instead of how they want.


No, I would like them to take action.

Protesting is for slacktivists and image-obsessed tokenists.
 
2020-08-27 4:11:06 PM  

brizzle365: sounds an awful lot like you would like them to protest in a way that you like, instead of how they want.


I think you need to look at context.

Its 2020, people already have decided their lines, changing or evolving your opinion doesn't matter because i can dig up a fidonet or usenet post loosely connected to you from 1992, and crucify you for it.

So one argument is, "What good does this do? Calling off games in the whitest sport, where of the 2 games going tonight, 3 of the four teams are pretty racist places, and the fourth just likes to burn shiat" going to do but re-enforce lines.You didn't like black people? well now you blame them for not having hockey tonight. Are you pro-BLM? well now you feel smug, but what does that do?

To be clear, i don't have an issue for them saying, "we won't play tonight, maybe someone listens". But if it isn't purely a business thing, make something meaningful out of it. Hockey has been doing an awesome job of expanding the sport to non traditional markets and fans\players. Lets spend some time talking about it. Lets talk about how sport is a way to bring us together and throw away other lines and barriers.
 
2020-08-27 8:24:31 PM  

LessO2: Do NBA players really think the likes of James Dolan and Robert Sarver are even capable of thinking about social justice, let alone do something meaningful?


Yeah, but we are talking about things impacting the playoffs so James Dolan isn't going to be involved anyhow.
 
2020-08-27 8:50:52 PM  

Ishkur: Meanwhile the NHL has just cancelled today's games.


And?
 
2020-08-27 9:23:27 PM  

TheManofPA: LessO2: Do NBA players really think the likes of James Dolan and Robert Sarver are even capable of thinking about social justice, let alone do something meaningful?

Yeah, but we are talking about things impacting the playoffs so James Dolan isn't going to be involved anyhow.


Well played.  You could include Sarver in the statement.

Btw, went to look at how long it had been since the Suns made the playoffs and found this story:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azce​n​tral.com/amp/5650268002

A Phoenix City Councilman called the players "whiny biatches."  At least Sarver stood with the players; wasn't a given.

/Suns last made the playoffs in 2010
 
2020-08-27 10:27:03 PM  

OldJames: I wonder if they spent last night like I did. Getting drunk, doing drugs, and shooting darts. I shot a 3.8 one of my cricket games, and a 76 one of my 501DO games. (Steel tip)


I bet you literally have to fight to keep the ladies off you.
 
2020-08-27 10:30:11 PM  
Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.
 
2020-08-27 10:40:49 PM  

Marshmallow Jones: Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.


That's lot of words to say "shut up and dribble."
 
2020-08-27 10:47:05 PM  
Here's an idea: If the players want to make a change, demand that cops no longer get cushy details at games. Hit them in their wallets.
 
2020-08-27 11:13:30 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.

That's lot of words to say "shut up and dribble."


I'm sorry you have nothing to offer except 4 word tropes.   It's a complex issue.  Don't strain yourself trying to think.
 
2020-08-28 12:03:41 AM  

Marshmallow Jones: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.

That's lot of words to say "shut up and dribble."

I'm sorry you have nothing to offer except 4 word tropes.   It's a complex issue.  Don't strain yourself trying to think.


Then let's try 13 words:  Replace "shut up and dribble" with "find some other way to protest which doesn't require me to take notice."

It's a complex issue, and one you really wish you could ignore.
 
2020-08-28 12:25:10 AM  
I liked my headline better:

NBA decides to shut up and dribble
 
2020-08-28 12:49:29 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.

That's lot of words to say "shut up and dribble."

I'm sorry you have nothing to offer except 4 word tropes.   It's a complex issue.  Don't strain yourself trying to think.

Then let's try 13 words:  Replace "shut up and dribble" with "find some other way to protest which doesn't require me to take notice."

It's a complex issue, and one you really wish you could ignore.


It is very complex.  And yet the solution you're falling over yourself to endorse is disorganized, simplistic, and ridiculous.  No specific law they want changed or reform enacted.  That's the problem.  Pick one.  "Raising awareness" is not a goal, especially now, as this is dominating the headlines right now.  They could do a lot of good if they actually specified something, planned out a strike at the best possible moment and did it.  They did none of the sort.  This is just going to fizzle out into nothing.
The Civil Rights movement targeted specific laws.  This is a disorganized mess.
 
2020-08-28 2:16:17 PM  

FLMountainMan: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.

That's lot of words to say "shut up and dribble."

I'm sorry you have nothing to offer except 4 word tropes.   It's a complex issue.  Don't strain yourself trying to think.

Then let's try 13 words:  Replace "shut up and dribble" with "find some other way to protest which doesn't require me to take notice."

It's a complex issue, and one you really wish you could ignore.

It is very complex.  And yet the solution you're falling over yourself to endorse is disorganized, simplistic, and ridiculous.  No specific law they want changed or reform enacted.  That's the problem.  Pick one.  "Raising awareness" is not a goal, especially now, as this is dominating the headlines right now.  They could do a lot of good if they actually specified something, planned out a strike at the best possible moment and did it.  They did none of the sort.  This is just going to fizzle out into nothing.
The Civil Rights movement targeted specific laws.  This is a disorganized mess.


Your assumption that I think the protest itself is the solution is even more simplistic and ridiculous, but I guess that's just how conservatives roll.
 
2020-08-28 2:47:23 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: FLMountainMan: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.

That's lot of words to say "shut up and dribble."

I'm sorry you have nothing to offer except 4 word tropes.   It's a complex issue.  Don't strain yourself trying to think.

Then let's try 13 words:  Replace "shut up and dribble" with "find some other way to protest which doesn't require me to take notice."

It's a complex issue, and one you really wish you could ignore.

It is very complex.  And yet the solution you're falling over yourself to endorse is disorganized, simplistic, and ridiculous.  No specific law they want changed or reform enacted.  That's the problem.  Pick one.  "Raising awareness" is not a goal, especially now, as this is dominating the headlines right now.  They could do a lot of good if they actually specified something, planned out a strike at the best possible moment and did it.  They did none of the sort.  This is just going to fizzle out into nothing.
The Civil Rights movement targeted specific laws.  This is a disorganized mess.

Your assumption that I think the protest itself is the solution is even more simplistic and ridiculous, but ...


Your secular "thoughts and prayers" are the solution?
 
2020-08-28 3:14:15 PM  

FLMountainMan: common sense is an oxymoron: FLMountainMan: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.

That's lot of words to say "shut up and dribble."

I'm sorry you have nothing to offer except 4 word tropes.   It's a complex issue.  Don't strain yourself trying to think.

Then let's try 13 words:  Replace "shut up and dribble" with "find some other way to protest which doesn't require me to take notice."

It's a complex issue, and one you really wish you could ignore.

It is very complex.  And yet the solution you're falling over yourself to endorse is disorganized, simplistic, and ridiculous.  No specific law they want changed or reform enacted.  That's the problem.  Pick one.  "Raising awareness" is not a goal, especially now, as this is dominating the headlines right now.  They could do a lot of good if they actually specified something, planned out a strike at the best possible moment and did it.  They did none of the sort.  This is just going to fizzle out into nothing.
The Civil Rights movement targeted specific laws.  This is a disorganized mess.

Your assumption that I think the protest itself is the solution is even more simplistic and ridiculous, but I guess that's just how conservatives roll.

Your secular "thoughts and prayers" are the solution?


Keep on rolling.
 
2020-08-28 6:14:23 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: FLMountainMan: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: common sense is an oxymoron: Marshmallow Jones: Ok cancel all of the games.  Until...what?

There's more racial justice?  How do you measure that?  On what timeline?  Who decides when it's time to play again?   Could be years, or never.  Put everything on hold until there's a decision made that we've reached some new, more equal society?   Do you think regular people, 90% of the population of all races, creeds and colors will wait with bated breath for millionaires to not play defense on TV, when 95% of what matters to them is getting through their shiatty commute, working 8-10 hours a day at their shiatty job, coming home, having to mow that gdam lawn, pay the farking electric bill and deal with the gdam leaky faucet, that they should have any farking time to care about shiat that has fark all to do with their current predicament?   Good luck.

That's lot of words to say "shut up and dribble."

I'm sorry you have nothing to offer except 4 word tropes.   It's a complex issue.  Don't strain yourself trying to think.

Then let's try 13 words:  Replace "shut up and dribble" with "find some other way to protest which doesn't require me to take notice."

It's a complex issue, and one you really wish you could ignore.

It is very complex.  And yet the solution you're falling over yourself to endorse is disorganized, simplistic, and ridiculous.  No specific law they want changed or reform enacted.  That's the problem.  Pick one.  "Raising awareness" is not a goal, especially now, as this is dominating the headlines right now.  They could do a lot of good if they actually specified something, planned out a strike at the best possible moment and did it.  They did none of the sort.  This is just going to fizzle out into nothing.
The Civil Rights movement targeted specific laws.  This is a disorganized mess.

Your assumption that I think the protest itself is the solution is even more simplistic and ridiculous, but I guess that's just how conservatives roll.


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