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2020-08-26 12:53:02 PM  
FTFA: "......was powerful and arrogant like Jupiter. Slowly and silently it crept upwards. Having broken through the thick layer of clouds it kept growing. It seemed to suck the whole earth into it," they added.

This should be the setup for either a penis or subby's mom joke.
 
2020-08-26 2:24:29 PM  
Anyone not wearing two-million sunblock is gonna have a bad day.
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2020-08-26 2:27:18 PM  
We'll meet again
Don't know where
Don't know when
But I know we'll meet again some sunny day
 
2020-08-26 2:30:38 PM  
13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?
 
2020-08-26 2:33:26 PM  
FYI: Tsar Bomba boomba starts at 22:30
 
2020-08-26 2:36:29 PM  
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2020-08-26 2:36:32 PM  
The earth was nearly wiped clean of life. A great cleansing, an atomic spark struck by human hands, quickly raged out of control.
 
2020-08-26 2:40:41 PM  
My father was a  procurement officer at WPAFB at the time.  The U.S. knew of the upcoming test and initiated operation "Big Safari" to get a plane there to monitor it.  My dad basically wrote whatever it costs contacts to suppliers so that a C 135 could be outfitted with test and monitoring gear in time for the blast.  He even received an award From J.F.K for making it happen.
 
2020-08-26 2:42:08 PM  

waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?


A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.
 
2020-08-26 2:52:52 PM  
Damn, How has this footage not been released before now? Someone sitting on it or what
 
2020-08-26 2:58:02 PM  
WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.
 
2020-08-26 3:04:21 PM  

dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.


Why not all 3
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B
C
 
2020-08-26 3:07:33 PM  
They really set the Dial-A-Yield to 11 on that one...
 
2020-08-26 3:07:35 PM  

jim32rr: dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.

Why not all 3
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B
C


Some arent suitable for certain situations.
You might not want to contaminate a target city with chemicals and radiation so maybe you explode a bomb filled with tularemia over the city and wait for everyone to die.
 
2020-08-26 3:07:52 PM  

rolladuck: . The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.


🤔thx
 
2020-08-26 3:09:48 PM  

Hooferatheart: He even received an award From J.F.K for making it happen.


And he repaid that kindness by murdering him in Dallas, didnt he??
 
2020-08-26 3:12:11 PM  

berylman: Damn, How has this footage not been released before now? Someone sitting on it or what


The classified footage was safely stored in a classified location that was forgotten until some punk ass millennial urban explorers got caught going in and out and eventually some ancient lucky soul who hadn't been disappeared remembered what was down there and eventually it fell back into the right hands.

"Hours after ze test ve zent people into ze general area to run tests ja. Never mind vhat happened to zem, ve got ze data, ja."

Yeah, 98% of the people who were first on site for that did not live long, happy lives. The other 2% were the weirdos who tend to live far longer than normal after the same exposure and probably tell their great, great grandchildren that they lived to 117 by drinking Voda every day and by smoking potato sweepings, 3 packs a day.
 
2020-08-26 3:12:38 PM  

dothemath: Hooferatheart: He even received an award From J.F.K for making it happen.

And he repaid that kindness by murdering him in Dallas, didnt he??


😂🍸
 
2020-08-26 3:14:09 PM  
 
2020-08-26 3:15:34 PM  

dothemath: Hooferatheart: He even received an award From J.F.K for making it happen.

And he repaid that kindness by murdering him in Dallas, didnt he??


C'mon now, everyone knows that E. Howard Hunt arranged for former CIA contractors to set up Lee Harvey Oswald as the shooter/patsy. He confessed on his deathbed and his wife confirmed that he had been acting very paranoid around that exact same time and hid the family at a remote cabin the day of the assasination.
 
2020-08-26 3:18:23 PM  

dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.


WW3 biologists will use fluoridation ... the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we've ever had to face. Are we to sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids?
 
2020-08-26 3:20:02 PM  

rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.


I see you mentioned nothing about infections from shrapnel damage and flying debris, ionizing radiation burns and microwave burns, flash fire burns when the heat radiation wave hit anything in the flash-fire zone, and general mayhem from panic fleeing and fallout contaminated everything. Just assume that anyone within 20 miles is going to be dead in the first few days to weeks depending on how close they were to the blast. I would say closer to 70%.
 
2020-08-26 3:22:08 PM  

rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.


Until the fallout got you. And that's assuming that you weren't targeted with multiple nukes, which was done, given that both sides had enough nukes to do the world 10 times over.
 
2020-08-26 3:23:05 PM  

Stanley Rubrick: dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.

WW3 biologists will use fluoridation ... the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we've ever had to face. Are we to sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids?


I do seem to recall an article on Fark within the past 3 years or so where the government basically admitted that there was statistically significant correlation between increased fluoride use in water systems and lower IQs to the tune of 5 - 10 points. It would certainly explain Florida, and sadly some parts of rural Texass where the actual well water has abnormally high natural fluoride.
 
2020-08-26 3:29:46 PM  

dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.


Didn't Albert Enistein say something like: "I don't how WWIII will be fought, but WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones"?
 
2020-08-26 3:34:28 PM  

thespindrifter: rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.

I see you mentioned nothing about infections from shrapnel damage and flying debris, ionizing radiation burns and microwave burns, flash fire burns when the heat radiation wave hit anything in the flash-fire zone, and general mayhem from panic fleeing and fallout contaminated everything. Just assume that anyone within 20 miles is going to be dead in the first few days to weeks depending on how close they were to the blast. I would say closer to 70%.


"Survivable" of course, is a fuzzy concept. But the lethality of the various effects is pretty well known.
Anyways, you can use this simulator to check what you would be facing at your most likely locations (work, home, shopping, commuting) if various warheads struck various strategic targets in your area:
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
Given where I used to live in Las Vegas, I was pretty confident that I would have to figure out how to survive a post-nuclear environment if the three most likely targets in the area were to all be hit by 800kT devices and I was sheltered in my house.
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?t​=​6589031e966ab06ee80d1cd8739f583b
I figured the most likely strategic targets were McCarran, Nellis AFB's flightline, and the Hoover Dam power facilities.
 
2020-08-26 3:36:29 PM  

whitroth: rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.

Until the fallout got you. And that's assuming that you weren't targeted with multiple nukes, which was done, given that both sides had enough nukes to do the world 10 times over.


Fallout is only a major concern for ground- or near-ground bursts. For damage with high-yield weapons, you want to detonate pretty high above the city. That doesn't generate much fallout, if at all.
 
2020-08-26 3:37:31 PM  

thespindrifter: .

I see you mentioned nothing about infections from shrapnel damage and flying debris, ionizing radiation burns and microwave burns, flash fire burns when the heat radiation wave hit anything in the flash-fire zone, and general mayhem from panic fleeing and fallout contaminated everything. Just assume that anyone within 20 miles is going to be dead in the first few days to weeks depending on how close they were to the blast. I would say closer to 70%.


😲
 
2020-08-26 3:43:53 PM  

dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.


WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the economist's war.
 
2020-08-26 3:46:11 PM  

Doctor Poop: dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.

WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the economist's war.


WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the cyber war.
 
2020-08-26 3:48:00 PM  

johnny_vegas: Doctor Poop: dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.

WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the economist's war.

WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the cyber war.


WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the information war.
 
2020-08-26 3:50:33 PM  

thespindrifter: berylman: Damn, How has this footage not been released before now? Someone sitting on it or what

The classified footage was safely stored in a classified location that was forgotten until some punk ass millennial urban explorers got caught going in and out and eventually some ancient lucky soul who hadn't been disappeared remembered what was down there and eventually it fell back into the right hands.

"Hours after ze test ve zent people into ze general area to run tests ja. Never mind vhat happened to zem, ve got ze data, ja."

Yeah, 98% of the people who were first on site for that did not live long, happy lives. The other 2% were the weirdos who tend to live far longer than normal after the same exposure and probably tell their great, great grandchildren that they lived to 117 by drinking Voda every day and by smoking potato sweepings, 3 packs a day.


I'm currently reading Voices from Chernobyl. It's equally funny and disturbing how many of the people interviewed for the book thought drinking vodak would 'flush the radiation' out of their bodies.

And not just the peasants; army officers,  politicians and even some academics.

One liquidatior said his squad was allotted 3L of vodak daily, they spent pretty much the entire cleanup either drunk or hung over.
 
2020-08-26 3:56:30 PM  
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2020-08-26 4:00:52 PM  

rolladuck: johnny_vegas: Doctor Poop: dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.

WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the economist's war.

WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the cyber war.

WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the information war.


WW4 will be What was War For
 
2020-08-26 4:08:08 PM  
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2020-08-26 4:14:12 PM  
Never challenge worse.
 
2020-08-26 4:18:01 PM  
Holy Trump ads Batman!
This video is so ripe for MS3K!!
 
2020-08-26 4:18:54 PM  

jim32rr: dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.

Why not all 3
N
B
C


bing bing bing You're watching World War Three.

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2020-08-26 4:21:33 PM  

berylman: Damn, How has this footage not been released before now? Someone sitting on it or what


Political tactics.
Just before election day, some high level but expendable bureacrat from the Kremlin will "warn" us that there will be nucliar war if Trump looses. Just like last election. Might get a few lazy brainwashed pant-shiatters off the couch and into the voting booth.
 
2020-08-26 4:26:52 PM  

rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.


The US along has blown up over 1,000 of them near zero world-wide effect. Local effects, sure, but it's not like declaring war on the SW USA or the Pacific Islands have negatively impacted the world writ large.
 
2020-08-26 4:35:33 PM  
I like how they claim to land at the detonation site soon after the blast, snow and ice is everywhere.
 
2020-08-26 4:51:11 PM  

rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.


To me that says that a world where the living envy the dead isn't pointless. That devastation and despair are "knock on effects" and that mitigates the woe. "Whoa. Starving to death ...  Pretty cool. At least it isn't vaporization."
 
2020-08-26 5:01:20 PM  

FarkBucket18: rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.

The US along has blown up over 1,000 of them near zero world-wide effect. Local effects, sure, but it's not like declaring war on the SW USA or the Pacific Islands have negatively impacted the world writ large.


It's quite true that there has been near zero global effect.
It's also quite true that except for two of them, they were detonated in the most remote places we had access to, most were deep underground, and no global effects doesn't mean "no effects".
I would not advise buying land in southern Nevada north of Las Vegas.
 
2020-08-26 5:16:31 PM  
Fun fact...  that farker was detonated at 50% strength.

It was designed as a dual core tri stage fusion bomb.
Stage 1: conventional explosive trigger
Stage 2: plutonium shell fission trigger
Stage 3: Lithium isotope (15?) fusion core

Fortunately, the scientists in charge were able to convince the military that it didn't need to be tested with both cores to test the effectiveness of the design.

Fun fact 2:  it rang the globe like a farking gong.  The seismic shockwave bounced through the planet at least three times.  The only really good thing about the test is that it gave seismologists some of the best data ever to model the inside of the planet.
 
2020-08-26 5:23:40 PM  

GrogSmash: Fun fact...  that farker was detonated at 50% strength.

It was designed as a dual core tri stage fusion bomb.
Stage 1: conventional explosive trigger
Stage 2: plutonium shell fission trigger
Stage 3: Lithium isotope (15?) fusion core

Fortunately, the scientists in charge were able to convince the military that it didn't need to be tested with both cores to test the effectiveness of the design.

Fun fact 2:  it rang the globe like a farking gong.  The seismic shockwave bounced through the planet at least three times.  The only really good thing about the test is that it gave seismologists some of the best data ever to model the inside of the planet.


Those are fun facts, thanks!
 
2020-08-26 5:24:28 PM  

FarkBucket18: rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.

The US along has blown up over 1,000 of them near zero world-wide effect. Local effects, sure, but it's not like declaring war on the SW USA or the Pacific Islands have negatively impacted the world writ large.


You're joking right? How old are you, as in: do you not remember the 1960s through 1990s? Take a close look at the fallout maps from that period of history from the above-ground tests, then look at cancer demographics for the @ 30 year stretch after that. I guarantee you that an honest look at where the cancer victims lived during the fallout years will produce statistically significant numbers above standard deviation. Hell, growing up that is all I ever heard about: *everyone* had cancer, everyone. When you combine airborne radioemitting dust with a high incidence of smoking, the victimology goes through the roof.

Also, to this day the former inhabitants of the Pacific Islands (mostly descendants at this point) still cannot go back to their original island homes because all of the native vegetation they relied upon for food is still growing hot with cesium and iodine isotopes. 60+ years later and we have permanently altered the lives of an entire indigenous civilization in modern times because of our hubris and folly.
 
2020-08-26 7:26:27 PM  

rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.


The house can be cardboard as long as you have a lead-ilned fridge in the kitchen.
 
2020-08-26 7:48:14 PM  

bughunter: jim32rr: dothemath: WW1 was the chemists war.
WW2 was the physicists war.
WW3 will be the biologists war.

Why not all 3
N
B
C

bing bing bing You're watching World War Three.

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Crazy "The More You Know" Conan O'Brien
Youtube i-_UZSASpw4
 
2020-08-26 8:24:44 PM  

thespindrifter: FarkBucket18: rolladuck: waxbeans: 13,865 ? I wonder how many of those do you have to detonate before the rest remain pointless?

A whole lot.
The vast majority are below 500 kilotons. While that would ruin the day for a lot of people packed into downtown, it's a lot less cost-effective for suburbs, and practically useless for rural areas. You have a 50/50 chance of survival being outdoors about 10 miles from a 500 kT detonation and your chances go up enormously if you're in a well-built house. The greatest risks would be to loss of essential life supporting services like access to safe food and water, cooking fuel and sanitation that comes with a widespread loss of public utilities.

The US along has blown up over 1,000 of them near zero world-wide effect. Local effects, sure, but it's not like declaring war on the SW USA or the Pacific Islands have negatively impacted the world writ large.

You're joking right? How old are you, as in: do you not remember the 1960s through 1990s? Take a close look at the fallout maps from that period of history from the above-ground tests, then look at cancer demographics for the @ 30 year stretch after that. I guarantee you that an honest look at where the cancer victims lived during the fallout years will produce statistically significant numbers above standard deviation. Hell, growing up that is all I ever heard about: *everyone* had cancer, everyone. When you combine airborne radioemitting dust with a high incidence of smoking, the victimology goes through the roof.

Also, to this day the former inhabitants of the Pacific Islands (mostly descendants at this point) still cannot go back to their original island homes because all of the native vegetation they relied upon for food is still growing hot with cesium and iodine isotopes. 60+ years later and we have permanently altered the lives of an entire indigenous civilization in modern times because of our hubris and folly.


So, those 2100+ nuclear bombs exploded worldwide caused a massive nuclear winter? Got it. Must've missed that part of history class.

Look, the local effects were (and in some cases, still are) bad, but you're overstating things ever so slightly. You do know that Hiroshima and Nagasaki are bustling metropolis' home to millions of people and that people almost immediately started to resettle those areas, right? Yeah, the local levels of radiation sickness increased in the immediate period following their explosions (I never said otherwise), but it's not like they were doomsday devices which poisoned whole swaths of the Earth.

You sound like one of those silly bumpkins that thought that Fukushima had poisoned the entire ecosystem of the Pacific Ocean.

Life ... finds a way.
 
2020-08-26 9:42:42 PM  
It's interesting to see what the effects are comparable to volcanos.
 
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