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(Slate)   Can I dump old friends because they've gone full Republican? Sure, to make it even easier: think of it like a work-at-will state   (slate.com) divider line
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2020-08-25 3:12:43 PM  
27 votes:
I have no idea what my friend's politics are. It's just not a subject I ever discuss, because I have zero interest. People can believe whatever stupid shiat they want, I'm not an educator.
 
2020-08-25 4:39:00 PM  
24 votes:
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Some problems wrecktify themselves.
 
2020-08-25 4:34:47 PM  
13 votes:
Yes, unless your friend is Becki Falwell. Then you would be safer to check all corners of your house, just to make sure Jerry Fallwell Jr isn't jacking off in the corner like a horny Blair Witch victim.
 
2020-08-25 3:15:49 PM  
10 votes:
 Not all conservatives are jerks. My ex GF (more like a common law wife) is a Republican and she DESPISES Trump. And not in the Susan Collins way. Despite me being a political junkie we didn't argue about politics much. It was understood that I was a raging liberal and that she voted for George W Bush.

We are very close friends to this day. She even flies up here at least once a year and we have a blast. But here's the thing: she isn't racist, a corona hoaxer, a maskless "mah rights!" or any of that trash that seems amplified these days. She's a wonderful girl, is all. Just happens to be a Republican. I think she's deluding herself but it's really none of my business unless she brings it up.

BUT: If your so-called friends are talking Trump-style crap, then yes, ditch them. It's a poison I'll have no part of. I can't be around it even online, much less in person.
 
2020-08-25 4:35:55 PM  
9 votes:
Do whatever you want but it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.  About the only thing that I will cut off friends are drugs.  I dont mind if you do them but if you start in a full on addiction spiral and you do not listen to everyone trying to help you... well you are not bringing me down with you.  Have only done that twice.  They finally bounced from bottom and we talk years later.
 
2020-08-25 4:38:36 PM  
8 votes:

dickfreckle: is a Republican and she DESPISES Trump



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2020-08-25 5:31:48 PM  
7 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.

All words are made up.

Wow, you're just so clever. So has your junior high started classes again yet?

By the way, don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously in the future. I tried to help you, but if you want to signal to others that you are as gullible as the people in red-hats, that's up to you.

Actually, I have an advanced degree in the topic.

But, y'know, you can keep hiding your head in the sand while culture and therefore language continue to change around you.


I work for a linguistics department. So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies. Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.
 
2020-08-25 4:58:08 PM  
7 votes:

Porous Horace: Pro-Trump is Anti-Me (and a whole lotta others), so yes.


Yeah, but isn't it your own fault for being one of the many groups of people that Republicans clearly want to eliminate? Just be cool and meet them halfway by only existing a little bit.
 
2020-08-25 4:38:17 PM  
7 votes:
My husband, our 10-year old daughter, and I are all progressive liberals.

Oh fark off.
 
2020-08-25 7:37:47 PM  
6 votes:

g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.

Are you just not at all aware of the point of dictionaries?

I was trying not to reply to you.

I reject whatever you want to call your philosophy that words which are artificially created are as cromulent as words which evolve naturally.

All words, once again, are artificially created. People find a thing they need to describ, and people create a word for it. That is how language works.

Yes. It even happens when a word already exists for a thing. We have a word for that too, and it doesn't make anything not-a-word.

You might want to look up "natural language". Your "all words are made up" is stupid and childish.


You see liberals language isn't whatever you arbitrarily decide it is. It's whatever I arbitrarily decide it is. Boom! Destroyed with facts and logic!
 
2020-08-25 5:19:15 PM  
6 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Oh, so you're one of those over-educated white people who gets to tell others how their culture (and apparently language as well) is wrong

You're the one who told me my language was wrong. And am I in middle school or over-educated? Your trolling comes off as milquetoast when it's not even intellectually consistent.


When you were arguing like a child I assumed you were a child. When you informed me of your advanced degree, I revised my assessment and realized you were over- rather than under-educated. In any case you insist on using an asinine word which indicates way more about you than you seem to realize. Not least of which being that your opinion is totally worthless.

Good day.
 
2020-08-25 4:48:35 PM  
6 votes:

Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?


You heard the person, it's wrong of you to stop hanging out with bigots.  The only acceptable people to cut from your life are addicts who need your help the most.  Those people can get bent.
 
2020-08-25 4:42:06 PM  
6 votes:
Maybe you'll get lucky and won't have to dump them at all: One of the Trumpers in my parents' friend circle (who I grew up fearing and hating) dropped dead of Covid. It felt wonderful.
 
2020-08-25 4:40:27 PM  
6 votes:

Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?


Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.
 
2020-08-25 7:55:39 PM  
5 votes:

odinsposse: g.fro: ...objecting to one word for the thread to get totally derailed. Is that worth it? Is that how you want to manage a political discussion?

And the whole silly thing could become avoided by just using the word "Latin".

What a cowardly attempt to bail out. It's everyone else's fault that you objected to a phrase and then got embarrassed on how little you knew about how language worked? At least own up to your loss like an adult.


Was anyone talking to you?

I love how any time someone disagrees with the new catechism, it's because they "don't know". Guess what, some people know, and disagree. And that doesn't make them bigots, but I'm sure you'll say they are.

Attempt to bail out? Whatever, dipshiat.
 
2020-08-25 7:45:22 PM  
5 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.

Are you just not at all aware of the point of dictionaries?

I was trying not to reply to you.

I reject whatever you want to call your philosophy that words which are artificially created are as cromulent as words which evolve naturally.

All words, once again, are artificially created. People find a thing they need to describ, and people create a word for it. That is how language works.

Yes. It even happens when a word already exists for a thing. We have a word for that too, and it doesn't make anything not-a-word.

You might want to look up "natural language". Your "all words are made up" is stupid and childish.

*eyeroll*

"Natural language" doesn't mean "no made up words," you insufferable dolt. It means the language as a whole was created not by specific intent but by the spread of created or borrowed words.

You know "1984" wasn't a how to manual, right?

You know you should read the things you are furiously googling to try to make yourself feel better, right?


So, tell me, what are you trying to accomplish? I had left the discussion, but you had to drag me back. Do you think you are going to change my mind regarding your newspeak? Or can you just not stand the idea that someone, somewhere might not agree with your orthodoxy?

Look at this thread. It wasn't about one word or language in general. You were trying to make a completely unrelated political point. And I know you won't believe me, and probably even accuse me of lying, but I actually agree with the point you were making. But all it took was my simple objectingvto one word
 
2020-08-25 7:39:34 PM  
5 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.

Are you just not at all aware of the point of dictionaries?

I was trying not to reply to you.

I reject whatever you want to call your philosophy that words which are artificially created are as cromulent as words which evolve naturally.

All words, once again, are artificially created. People find a thing they need to describ, and people create a word for it. That is how language works.

Yes. It even happens when a word already exists for a thing. We have a word for that too, and it doesn't make anything not-a-word.

You might want to look up "natural language". Your "all words are made up" is stupid and childish.

*eyeroll*

"Natural language" doesn't mean "no made up words," you insufferable dolt. It means the language as a whole was created not by specific intent but by the spread of created or borrowed words.


You know "1984" wasn't a how to manual, right?
 
2020-08-25 7:35:35 PM  
5 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.

Are you just not at all aware of the point of dictionaries?

I was trying not to reply to you.

I reject whatever you want to call your philosophy that words which are artificially created are as cromulent as words which evolve naturally.

All words, once again, are artificially created. People find a thing they need to describ, and people create a word for it. That is how language works.

Yes. It even happens when a word already exists for a thing. We have a word for that too, and it doesn't make anything not-a-word.


You might want to look up "natural language". Your "all words are made up" is stupid and childish.
 
2020-08-25 7:23:23 PM  
5 votes:

LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.


Check a dictionary more than a few years old.
 
2020-08-25 7:06:08 PM  
5 votes:

dickfreckle: Not all conservatives are jerks


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when I see never-trumpers who were down with everything the garbage GOP has did for decades but are now trying to clear themselves from vortex of the sinking ship
 
2020-08-25 5:59:35 PM  
5 votes:

yohohogreengiant: I did don't Esperanto


[insert joke about what Esperanto does to your brain]
 
2020-08-25 4:56:56 PM  
5 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: gunga galunga: OrionXVI: gunga galunga: I dumped them all.

All that's left is my mother and my brother. I can't dump them.

Fortunately, they know not to bring up Trump while I am around.

Brothers you can.  I've had to (2 in my case; they've gone full banjo).  Mothers may be harder to dump.

Last time my brother and I discussed politics was before Trump. He took issue with my Facebook page (which I have since quit, for good) and called me up to tell me that I was letting the liberal media tell me what to think. I gave it back to him with both barrels saying that I found that insulting that the implication was that I was too stupid to form my own thoughts or ideas. Also adding, "and by the way, what are your farking unimpeachable sources of information". Since the answer to that question would have been Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, he changed the subject and we've never discussed politics since.

However, I do know from my brother-in-law, whose mother is Facebook friends with my brother's wife, that my brother got a Donald Trump birthday cake for his 50th.

He would have given me no end of shiat if I were ever to have gotten a Obama or a Hillary Clinton birthday cake, and he'd be right to do so. But as long as he is not bringing up politics, neither will I.

You should bring up the birthday cake every year from now on. What is he, five? How farking pathetic, even if Trump wasn't a vile pack of pus.


GIS "Trump cake"

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Enjoy your nightmares.

/Is his head cream-filled?
 
2020-08-25 4:53:33 PM  
5 votes:

gunga galunga: my brother got a Donald Trump birthday cake for his 50th.


I'm imagining a rum cake that requires a drunk Russian prostitute *shudders*
 
2020-08-25 4:50:44 PM  
5 votes:

RobotSpider: True story:

I'm thinking of having an addition put on my garage to build a workshop. Someone down the road is having the exact same thing done right now. I don't know them, but was going to stop and say "hey, who are you using, what restrictions are there, etc." Driving by one day I saw a Trump 2020 sign in their yard and thought "nah, I'll just call around to contractors". I hate that I made that decision based on that. But this is so far beyond just "party politics" at this point. If it was ONLY "politics", it'd be fine. We can disagree all day. But the conspiracies and threats and lies and stoking the flames of fear... it's all just too much. I don't want anything to do with someone who supports that. Which, now that I think about it, will make it hard to find a contractor.


Don't sweat it. They probably hired their current contractor because of a Jesus fish in the Yellow Pages ad.
"This guy won't fark us over, he has a Jesus fish!"
 
2020-08-25 4:44:23 PM  
5 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.


So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.
 
2020-08-25 4:31:35 PM  
5 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: PunGent: Conservative?  No.

Trumpers?  Hell, yes.

There's nothing conservative about Trumpism.

They're completely the same.


Conservatives and Trumpers are the same thing. Trumpism is the logical and expected extension of modern-day conservatism.

If a conservative doesn't support Trump, then he is a right-leaning independent.
 
2020-08-25 9:39:03 PM  
4 votes:

drewogatory: If you guys can figure out the geography I'll happily get ya'll a room.


Dude, there's a pandemic. This is safer.
 
2020-08-25 9:17:28 PM  
4 votes:

flondrix: g.fro: The part you bolded is in reference to the idea being pushed that the Spanish language (and I guess all other Romance language) is deficient because it has two genders. The idea that people from outside a culture trying to dictate how that culture should change to better suit the outsides, is somehow respectful, which is patently absurd.

In grad school I ran into one guy from Spain who was teaching Spanish, and whose English-speaking students were constantly objecting to the use of gender pronouns in Spanish.  This was before transgender and genderfluid pronoun issues had come to public awareness; it was over things like how one referred to a group of men and women--Spanish has grammatical rules about that.  Heaven forbid any of these students would major in anthropology and go observe another culture someday.  (The term "snowflake" was not yet in use either.)

I have heard way too many new alternative pronouns invented by English speaking people who clearly do not understand that once they venture beyond English, a new gender pronoun means also devising versions of that pronoun, along with definite and indefinite articles, for every grammatical case (and there may be a lot of them), new conjugations for every verb, etc., and revising an entire nation's textbooks accordingly.  Inventing new gender pronouns as if it were no big deal shows that one is unaware of one's Anglocentric privilege, much like the people who can't understand why other folks don't just co-operate with the police and everything will be fine.

They/them as singular pronouns have been part of English for centuries; they are not "neuter" so much as "unspecified" and should cover anybody who does not wish to be referred to a he/him or she/her.  Another thing that English lacks is gender in the first or second person, simplifying things further compared to most other languages.

/Yes, English does conjugate its verbs, but not very much, and not by gender.  Also, we don't assign gender to inanimate objects other than ships, and you can usually get away with calling animals "it".


Careful, don't let the undergrads here hear you talking sense. They'll call you stupid and old and say you don't know what you are talking about.
 
2020-08-25 8:56:49 PM  
4 votes:

odinsposse: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: shoegaze99: g.fro: I've said "good day" once. Do I need to say "good night" now?

How about saying nothing and just walking away?

Because unless you get off on embarrassing yourself, you're doing yourself no favors by digging in.

But if it's some kink of yours, then by all means, continue. You must be building yourself up to a wild climax, because yeesh, watching this has been cringe-inducing.

I had walked away. Little-miss-gender-studies-degree got it going again.

But this is getting rather boring.

I wasn't tagging you or anything, but a discussion on why your post was dumb was and is merited.

So does that mean we're done here?

Yes, you finally get to pretend that you're just so bored of being shown you're wrong and these nerds with their pleas for you to google the basic subject you're discussing are totally defeated by your boredom.


Dude, I don't know what you think you're wining? I disagree with you idiots making up your own words. So what? I'm not going to stop you, And I'm not going to stop thinking you're idiots every time I hear someone use the word. Which so far has only been from a white person who never got any closer to a Latin person than their housekeeper. So you're free to use your made-up words, and I'm free to dismiss you.
 
2020-08-25 8:07:46 PM  
4 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.

Are you just not at all aware of the point of dictionaries?

I was trying not to reply to you.

I reject whatever you want to call your philosophy that words which are artificially created are as cromulent as words which evolve naturally.

All words, once again, are artificially created. People find a thing they need to describ, and people create a word for it. That is how language works.

Yes. It even happens when a word already exists for a thing. We have a word for that too, and it doesn't make anything not-a-word.

You might want to look up "natural language". Your "all words are made up" is stupid and childish.

*eyeroll*

"Natural language" doesn't mean "no made up words," you insufferable dolt. It means the language as a whole was created not by specific intent but by the spread of created or borrowed words.

You know "1984" wasn't a how to manual, right?

You know you should read the things you are furiously googling to try to make yourself feel better, right?

So, tell me, what are you trying to accomplish? I had left the discussion, but you had to drag me back. Do you think you are going to change my mind regarding your newspeak? Or can you just not stand the idea that someone, somewhere might not agree with your orthodoxy?

Look at this thread. It wasn't about one word or language in general. You were trying to make a completely unrelated political point. And I know you won't believe me, and probably even accuse me of lying, but I actually agree with the point you were making. But all it took was my simple objectingvto one word

...objecting to one word for the thread to get totally derailed. Is that worth it? Is that how you want to manage a political discussion?

And the whole silly thing could become avoided by j ...

YOU did the objecting, dipshiat.


I pointed out a word you used is not a word. It is not. I don't care how many times you say it is. You are the one who has kept this going for no apparent reason than to stroke your own grievance-studies ego (and apparently now get your ass kissed by your lackey). You are the one who let someone calmly objecting to your word choice derail a whole thread. And then, instead of simply realizing that not everyone is going to agree with your attempts to hijack language, or even just blow me off, you keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about and that I'm googling arguments. Is that what they taught you for your advanced degree? Because I think you might want to get your money back.

It's not a word, and you sound stupid for using it. I am not ignorant of its origins or supposed purpose. But I don't care. I am not going to change language to please some middle-class white kids who couldn't study anything useful.

I've said "good day" once. Do I need to say "good night" now? Or is there a new dictionary I have to check to make sure you haven't changed the meaning of those words while I was typing?
 
2020-08-25 7:47:33 PM  
4 votes:

g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.

Are you just not at all aware of the point of dictionaries?

I was trying not to reply to you.

I reject whatever you want to call your philosophy that words which are artificially created are as cromulent as words which evolve naturally.

All words, once again, are artificially created. People find a thing they need to describ, and people create a word for it. That is how language works.

Yes. It even happens when a word already exists for a thing. We have a word for that too, and it doesn't make anything not-a-word.

You might want to look up "natural language". Your "all words are made up" is stupid and childish.

*eyeroll*

"Natural language" doesn't mean "no made up words," you insufferable dolt. It means the language as a whole was created not by specific intent but by the spread of created or borrowed words.

You know "1984" wasn't a how to manual, right?

You know you should read the things you are furiously googling to try to make yourself feel better, right?

So, tell me, what are you trying to accomplish? I had left the discussion, but you had to drag me back. Do you think you are going to change my mind regarding your newspeak? Or can you just not stand the idea that someone, somewhere might not agree with your orthodoxy?

Look at this thread. It wasn't about one word or language in general. You were trying to make a completely unrelated political point. And I know you won't believe me, and probably even accuse me of lying, but I actually agree with the point you were making. But all it took was my simple objectingvto one word


...objecting to one word for the thread to get totally derailed. Is that worth it? Is that how you want to manage a political discussion?

And the whole silly thing could become avoided by just using the word "Latin".
 
2020-08-25 7:25:30 PM  
4 votes:

g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.


Now that's real desperation. "Don't try to look at modern dictionaries. Those are fake news!"
 
2020-08-25 7:14:57 PM  
4 votes:

LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.


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2020-08-25 6:45:30 PM  
4 votes:

KingOfTown: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

Don't get...anyone...started on the definition of slavery. They might wish a horrible death on your whole family if you do.


You never apologized, so my opinion of you still stands.
 
2020-08-25 6:15:40 PM  
4 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: There is no coming back. 

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2020-08-25 6:09:23 PM  
4 votes:

Smelly Pirate Hooker: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: For those curious, the picture of the shrine wall is from the grandmothers house, Who until a few years ago, was a NY born, moved to FL Democrat.
That was until the Fox nation attacked. 
My Mother built the shrine for her, and helped her decorate with those oh so lovely other things. 
You'll note in the first picture, Grandpa's flag is at the bottom, it has been on the mantel for decades until my mother got her hands on it for the TRUMPINFURER Shrine. 
Then his flag went to the bottom, surrounded by Icons of a man who never served..
In the later picture, the clear one you see, its up higher now, as I lost my shiat one year and brought that subject up (Grandpa was a lifelong Democrat) 
Now its a little higher up on the shrine, still surrounded by Trump Icons. 
I haven't been back to visit my mother or grandmother in over a year and changed, The most contact Ive had was to mail them some masks.

Sorry. (._.) Sincerely. Both my parents are dead, so I don't have to hear any lunacy from either of them. Apparently, my brother (I have 2 sisters and a brother) is still on the moron train, but we don't discuss politics. If he had anything like that in his house, I'd probably avoid him, but he doesn't. I saw him this past weekend.


He doesn't have anything like that... yet... Yet.

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2020-08-25 5:01:03 PM  
4 votes:
There is no coming back. 

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2020-08-25 5:00:25 PM  
4 votes:

fiddlehead: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: gunga galunga: OrionXVI: gunga galunga: I dumped them all.

All that's left is my mother and my brother. I can't dump them.

Fortunately, they know not to bring up Trump while I am around.

Brothers you can.  I've had to (2 in my case; they've gone full banjo).  Mothers may be harder to dump.

Last time my brother and I discussed politics was before Trump. He took issue with my Facebook page (which I have since quit, for good) and called me up to tell me that I was letting the liberal media tell me what to think. I gave it back to him with both barrels saying that I found that insulting that the implication was that I was too stupid to form my own thoughts or ideas. Also adding, "and by the way, what are your farking unimpeachable sources of information". Since the answer to that question would have been Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, he changed the subject and we've never discussed politics since.

However, I do know from my brother-in-law, whose mother is Facebook friends with my brother's wife, that my brother got a Donald Trump birthday cake for his 50th.

He would have given me no end of shiat if I were ever to have gotten a Obama or a Hillary Clinton birthday cake, and he'd be right to do so. But as long as he is not bringing up politics, neither will I.

You should bring up the birthday cake every year from now on. What is he, five? How farking pathetic, even if Trump wasn't a vile pack of pus.

GIS "Trump cake"

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2020-08-25 4:58:23 PM  
4 votes:
Some people have gone full Tribal. They can never be brought back. Ever. 

This is something we have to accept. I've lost family. No amount of facts will bring my family back from this. 

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2020-08-25 4:55:05 PM  
4 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.

All words are made up.

Wow, you're just so clever. So has your junior high started classes again yet?

By the way, don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously in the future. I tried to help you, but if you want to signal to others that you are as gullible as the people in red-hats, that's up to you.

Actually, I have an advanced degree in the topic.

But, y'know, you can keep hiding your head in the sand while culture and therefore language continue to change around you.


Oh, so you're one of those over-educated white people who gets to tell others how their culture (and apparently language as well) is wrong. Whatever would the oppressed do without you to save them? Never mind what I said about you being as gullible as the red-hats; you are as racist. You just found a better way to hide it.

Yeah, don't be surprised when no one takes anything you say seriously, they'll be right not to.
 
2020-08-25 4:47:23 PM  
4 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.

All words are made up.


Wow, you're just so clever. So has your junior high started classes again yet?

By the way, don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously in the future. I tried to help you, but if you want to signal to others that you are as gullible as the people in red-hats, that's up to you.
 
2020-08-25 4:27:55 PM  
4 votes:
Difficulty:  Parents are Trumpists
 
2020-08-25 8:35:45 PM  
3 votes:

shoegaze99: g.fro: I've said "good day" once. Do I need to say "good night" now?

How about saying nothing and just walking away?

Because unless you get off on embarrassing yourself, you're doing yourself no favors by digging in.

But if it's some kink of yours, then by all means, continue. You must be building yourself up to a wild climax, because yeesh, watching this has been cringe-inducing.


I had walked away. Little-miss-gender-studies-degree got it going again.

But this is getting rather boring.
 
2020-08-25 8:16:34 PM  
3 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: I pointed out a word you used is not a word. It is not.

You are wrong. Deal with it.

And you're stupid, deal with it.

There, I think we've reached an impasse. Or do you want to just keep going around in circles all night?

I have proven you wrong. You haven't proven anybody stupid, except arguably yourself.


Should should I just say there are only two genders so you can ignore me and feel like you won something?
 
2020-08-25 8:14:56 PM  
3 votes:

odinsposse: g.fro: I pointed out a word you used is not a word. It is not. I don't care how many times you say it is.

I'm not bailing out. I'm just declaring victory and running away even though I didn't prove my point. You're crying I'm not crying!


Dude, she's not going sleep with you. Give it a rest.
 
2020-08-25 8:10:17 PM  
3 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: I pointed out a word you used is not a word. It is not.

You are wrong. Deal with it.


And you're stupid, deal with it.

There, I think we've reached an impasse. Or do you want to just keep going around in circles all night?
 
2020-08-25 7:42:55 PM  
3 votes:

cocozilla: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I've always,always voted third party

Knew you were an asshole, and you went and confirmed it.

Voting third party in anything other than a very local race is like masturbating in the voting booth. you may feel better, but nobody else enjoys anything, and you just leave a mess for somebody else to clean up. It's a supremely stupid selfish act from people who can't see anything other than their own precious ego.


So you'd prefer things to be less representational? Maybe everything should be just the way you want it?
 
2020-08-25 7:28:50 PM  
3 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.

Are you just not at all aware of the point of dictionaries?


I was trying not to reply to you.

I reject whatever you want to call your philosophy that words which are artificially created are as cromulent as words which evolve naturally.
 
2020-08-25 6:25:50 PM  
3 votes:
g.fro:

idea being pushed that the Spanish language (and I guess all other Romance language) is deficient because it has two genders

Lol. Link plz
 
2020-08-25 5:58:03 PM  
3 votes:
I have a very close friend of about 37 years. A friend who went to a different school that lived in the neighborhood of another friend I knew from my Catholic HS.  He's as conservative as you can imagine. Young Earth Creationist Evangelical ... 'nuf said.  We were friends for a year or two when somehow the story of Noah's Arc came up and he informed me that he believed it to be literal history.

He spent many years as a "backslider", dealing meth, smoking weed, and partying, so even though I wasn't too into the meth back then, we spent many of our 20's years hanging out (not only because of the partying) and then he was 'born again', met a girl at his church and got married. I was part of the wedding party, but on wedding day, it was clear that I was eyed with great suspicion.

Anyway, that was over 20 years ago and while I don't see him often these days, we are still in close contact. We play golf maybe once a year, take in a Sixers game here and there and we even took a trip to Europe a few years ago. He's a great guy and I love him and I'm sure he loves me. But over the years, with a few exceptions, we've learned to just not talk about politics.

I was able to take that Europe trip only because his job has taken him all over the world such that he had so many travel miles that he offered to cover my trans-Atlantic airfare (both ways)...  flights between e.g. Amsterdam and Rome were cheap AF!  But without a hint of self-awareness, he told me that when he is traveling for work, he always declares that he is Canadian to the locals (merchants, cab drivers, hotel workers, etc).  We had a weird experience in a cab (Uber?  I forget) in Dublin when the driver asked us about Trump. Seemed clear to me that he expected us to be of like mind seemed genuinely confused when my buddy expressed his support while I called Trump an idiot.  I think he was amazed that we could express those thoughts in front of each other and still be civil.

Anyway, that's a farking long-ass story to say that it is possible to be friends with a Trumper.  I don't think I could make a new friend with a Trumper. But I've known this man for over 30 years and we have a long history of experiences and memories that I think well outweigh our political differences.   If I had long friendships with Trumpers where I was able to look past their politics, meaning that there is an unspoken agreement to avoid politics in casual conversation/situations, I can keep those friendships with no problem.
 
2020-08-25 5:57:52 PM  
3 votes:

drewogatory: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I've always,always voted third party

Knew you were an asshole, and you went and confirmed it.

I'm an asshole for voting third party in California? I mean, every election is a Dem (hell, there's usually not even a Republican on the ticket for statewide elections) landslide, I'm happy to vote Green Party or whatever. It literally makes no difference. I did usually vote for Jerry Brown because I respect his work ethic though.

You know why you are a horrible person. You already told everyone in the thread.

I've voted for actual socialists, communists and probably anarchists and I'm the problem? The 2 party system is a pathetic joke, one of the more clearly obvious solutions is more parties. 2 farking parties is only 1 better than 1 farking party. Since there's zero swing risk in California, it's the perfect place to do it. Now, notice how I can disagree with you without resorting to personal attacks?


You know why.
 
2020-08-25 5:50:16 PM  
3 votes:

Excelsior: In that case, you shouldn't use it for anyone.
Only 2% of hispanic people polled identify with 'latinx', the other 98% reject it:   https://reason.com/2019/11/04/latinx-​poll-think-now-hispanics-2020-woke/


Why? It takes me virtually no effort and shows respect for those who choose to be identified as such. I could definitely recognize an argument that I shouldn't leadwith it - It happens that the majority of people of those cultures that I associate with do choose to be IDed by the term in question - but I don't see "2 percent of this culture chooses to be IDed by this name" as rationale for never using that name.
 
2020-08-25 5:45:59 PM  
3 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: There is no coming back. 

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2020-08-25 5:42:26 PM  
3 votes:

alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.

All words are made up.

Wow, you're just so clever. So has your junior high started classes again yet?

By the way, don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously in the future. I tried to help you, but if you want to signal to others that you are as gullible as the people in red-hats, that's up to you.

Actually, I have an advanced degree in the topic.

But, y'know, you can keep hiding your head in the sand while culture and therefore language continue to change around you.

Oh, so you're one of those over-educated white people who gets to tell others how their culture (and apparently language as well) is wrong. Whatever would the oppressed do without you to save them? Never mind what I said about you being as gullible as the red-hats; you are as racist. You just found a better way to hide it.

Yeah, don't be surprised when no one takes anything you say seriously, they'll be right not to.

I guess anybody seems "overeducated" if you're proud of being stupid.

I bolded the really ironic part, just in case anybody missed it.


The part you bolded is in reference to the idea being pushed that the Spanish language (and I guess all other Romance language) is deficient because it has two genders. The idea that people from outside a culture trying to dictate how that culture should change to better suit the outsides, is somehow respectful, which is patently absurd.

But I already said "good day" to that individual, and am dropping this issue.

Carry on.
 
2020-08-25 5:26:59 PM  
3 votes:

g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.

All words are made up.

Wow, you're just so clever. So has your junior high started classes again yet?

By the way, don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously in the future. I tried to help you, but if you want to signal to others that you are as gullible as the people in red-hats, that's up to you.


Hey, it's a perfectly cromulent point of view.
 
2020-08-25 5:20:26 PM  
3 votes:

twat_waffle: I'm very conscious of the words I use to describe people. I use "aboriginal" or "First Nations" instead of "Indian" or "Native American." "Latinx" just feels contrived to me. I don't see the point.


I'm like that with Transylvanian.  Just say Dracula.
 
2020-08-25 5:00:37 PM  
3 votes:

dickfreckle: Not all conservatives are jerks. My ex GF (more like a common law wife) is a Republican and she DESPISES Trump. And not in the Susan Collins way. Despite me being a political junkie we didn't argue about politics much. It was understood that I was a raging liberal and that she voted for George W Bush.

We are very close friends to this day. She even flies up here at least once a year and we have a blast. But here's the thing: she isn't racist, a corona hoaxer, a maskless "mah rights!" or any of that trash that seems amplified these days. She's a wonderful girl, is all. Just happens to be a Republican. I think she's deluding herself but it's really none of my business unless she brings it up.

BUT: If your so-called friends are talking Trump-style crap, then yes, ditch them. It's a poison I'll have no part of. I can't be around it even online, much less in person.


So she flies up once a year for a weekend of dickfreckle?
 
2020-08-25 4:56:11 PM  
3 votes:

Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?


I dont know who you have been hanging out with but I have yet to know a single conservative that is your strawmen.
 
2020-08-25 4:50:15 PM  
3 votes:

gonegirl: Maybe you'll get lucky and won't have to dump them at all: One of the Trumpers in my parents' friend circle (who I grew up fearing and hating) dropped dead of Covid. It felt wonderful.


I heard it doesn't affect people like them, so I assume you are lying.
 
2020-08-25 4:38:47 PM  
3 votes:

Saiga410: Do whatever you want but it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.  About the only thing that I will cut off friends are drugs.  I dont mind if you do them but if you start in a full on addiction spiral and you do not listen to everyone trying to help you... well you are not bringing me down with you.  Have only done that twice.  They finally bounced from bottom and we talk years later.


Democrat: I'm a minority.
Republican: You belong in a cage.
Independent: Silly libs should really take a chance to have their ideology questioned.
 
2020-08-25 4:38:21 PM  
3 votes:

Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.


What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?
 
2020-08-25 4:31:18 PM  
3 votes:
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2020-08-25 4:27:20 PM  
3 votes:
Conservative?  No.

Trumpers?  Hell, yes.

There's nothing conservative about Trumpism.
 
2020-08-25 10:32:36 PM  
2 votes:

Leishu: Wait I have lackeys? Is this a Tf thing? I never had lackeys before. Lame.


Yo gurl. Can I be your lackey?
 
2020-08-25 10:03:26 PM  
2 votes:

drewogatory: alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax: drewogatory: If you guys can figure out the geography I'll happily get ya'll a room.

Dude, there's a pandemic. This is safer.

Anyway, you must be a horn player yeah?


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2020-08-25 9:53:43 PM  
2 votes:

flondrix: State_College_Arsonist: If you stop being friends with someone simply because they're a Republican or a Democrat, you're just an asshole.  That's all there is to it, it's an easy rule to live by.

FTFA:  "When we used to hang out, they would drop racist comments toward me (I am Asian) and say it was just a joke, or do things we don't approve of (steal, tread off trail), or now they find us ridiculous to be social distancing."

This couple has their 10 year old daughter to think about, too.


If you think that all Republicans, and only Republicans, are racists, then you are an idiot.
 
2020-08-25 9:46:23 PM  
2 votes:
I'm a linguistics hobbyist with probably a dozen friends who have PhDs in linguistics, and MAN has this thread been a unexpectedly fun ride.
 
2020-08-25 9:42:34 PM  
2 votes:
If you stop being friends with someone simply because they're a Republican or a Democrat, you're just an asshole.  That's all there is to it, it's an easy rule to live by.

Now, if they're really out there, and are committed communists or Nazis or something of that ilk, that's a bit different.
 
2020-08-25 9:37:03 PM  
2 votes:
If you guys can figure out the geography I'll happily get ya'll a room.
 
2020-08-25 9:31:21 PM  
2 votes:
You're conflating Republicanism with Authoritarianism, though the two have been merging for at least the last 30 years.
 
2020-08-25 9:23:27 PM  
2 votes:
Inventing new gender pronouns as if it were no big deal shows that one is unaware of one's Anglocentric privilege

Or,
it shows that they understand - and followe here - that the pronouns that they are inventing are meant to be used IN ENGLISH, and so the rest of your wankery doesn't apply at all.

Or do you know of a bunch of people that I don't that are demanding that we use "xe" and "xim" in Coptic and Farsi? Is this another Esperanto thing I don't know about??
 
2020-08-25 8:59:51 PM  
2 votes:

g.fro: odinsposse: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: shoegaze99: g.fro: I've said "good day" once. Do I need to say "good night" now?

How about saying nothing and just walking away?

Because unless you get off on embarrassing yourself, you're doing yourself no favors by digging in.

But if it's some kink of yours, then by all means, continue. You must be building yourself up to a wild climax, because yeesh, watching this has been cringe-inducing.

I had walked away. Little-miss-gender-studies-degree got it going again.

But this is getting rather boring.

I wasn't tagging you or anything, but a discussion on why your post was dumb was and is merited.

So does that mean we're done here?

Yes, you finally get to pretend that you're just so bored of being shown you're wrong and these nerds with their pleas for you to google the basic subject you're discussing are totally defeated by your boredom.

Dude, I don't know what you think you're wining? I disagree with you idiots making up your own words. So what? I'm not going to stop you, And I'm not going to stop thinking you're idiots every time I hear someone use the word. Which so far has only been from a white person who never got any closer to a Latin person than their housekeeper. So you're free to use your made-up words, and I'm free to dismiss you.


Are you running in a dumbfark marathon or something?
 
2020-08-25 8:50:37 PM  
2 votes:

g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: shoegaze99: g.fro: I've said "good day" once. Do I need to say "good night" now?

How about saying nothing and just walking away?

Because unless you get off on embarrassing yourself, you're doing yourself no favors by digging in.

But if it's some kink of yours, then by all means, continue. You must be building yourself up to a wild climax, because yeesh, watching this has been cringe-inducing.

I had walked away. Little-miss-gender-studies-degree got it going again.

But this is getting rather boring.

I wasn't tagging you or anything, but a discussion on why your post was dumb was and is merited.

So does that mean we're done here?


Yes, you finally get to pretend that you're just so bored of being shown you're wrong and these nerds with their pleas for you to google the basic subject you're discussing are totally defeated by your boredom.
 
2020-08-25 8:48:38 PM  
2 votes:

Leishu: g.fro: shoegaze99: g.fro: I've said "good day" once. Do I need to say "good night" now?

How about saying nothing and just walking away?

Because unless you get off on embarrassing yourself, you're doing yourself no favors by digging in.

But if it's some kink of yours, then by all means, continue. You must be building yourself up to a wild climax, because yeesh, watching this has been cringe-inducing.

I had walked away. Little-miss-gender-studies-degree got it going again.

But this is getting rather boring.

I wasn't tagging you or anything, but a discussion on why your post was dumb was and is merited.


So does that mean we're done here?
 
2020-08-25 8:09:18 PM  
2 votes:

g.fro: I pointed out a word you used is not a word. It is not. I don't care how many times you say it is.


I'm not bailing out. I'm just declaring victory and running away even though I didn't prove my point. You're crying I'm not crying!
 
2020-08-25 7:37:14 PM  
2 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I've always,always voted third party

Knew you were an asshole, and you went and confirmed it.


Voting third party in anything other than a very local race is like masturbating in the voting booth. you may feel better, but nobody else enjoys anything, and you just leave a mess for somebody else to clean up. It's a supremely stupid selfish act from people who can't see anything other than their own precious ego.
 
2020-08-25 7:16:58 PM  
2 votes:

saturn badger: I did. I see this as a requirement now.

One was a FB friend. I deleted him and told him why. He was not happy when I told him I didn't want my name associated with him in his friends group. He got really really upset when I called him a snowflake. That appears to be a major trigger with them.

Sucks to be him. I never looked back.


Manly men get really upset when you call them snowflakes. It's almost like you grabbed them by the pussy.
 
2020-08-25 7:12:57 PM  
2 votes:

g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.


5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.
 
2020-08-25 6:48:30 PM  
2 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: Some people have gone full Tribal. They can never be brought back. Ever. 

This is something we have to accept. I've lost family. No amount of facts will bring my family back from this. 

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They blew $49.99+ s&h for an idiotic trumpie bear?  WTF?
 
2020-08-25 6:07:09 PM  
2 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: PunGent: Conservative?  No.

Trumpers?  Hell, yes.

There's nothing conservative about Trumpism.

They're completely the same.


Nuhuh, conservatives know not to say the quiet part out loud.
 
2020-08-25 5:57:44 PM  
2 votes:

alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax: Leishu: twat_waffle: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

But he's right. The Spanish language has two genders. This is just an attempt by mostly white liberals to shoehorn a neuter gender into Spanish as an exercise in performative wokeness. To me, it feels a bit like appropriation. We don't turn "Chicano" into "Chicanx," so why do it to "Latino."

I'm very conscious of the words I use to describe people. I use "aboriginal" or "First Nations" instead of "Indian" or "Native American." "Latinx" just feels contrived to me. I don't see the point.

He didn't say the spanish language - he said any language, and I was typing in English.

I really think we need at least a couple of Esperanto speakers to chime in. They got all kinds of weird shiat in that language, I bet "Latinx" is in there somewhere.


I did don't Esperanto in duolingo which I'm pretty obsessive with in Spanish (I can barely  hold conversations) and French (I've gotten to where the gendarmerie only laugh at my French instead of throwing me in jail for mispronouncing "croissant)

My first blush? Esperanto is still way too complex and with too many squiggles to be a universal language.

What were we talking about?
 
2020-08-25 5:55:22 PM  
2 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I've always,always voted third party

Knew you were an asshole, and you went and confirmed it.

I'm an asshole for voting third party in California? I mean, every election is a Dem (hell, there's usually not even a Republican on the ticket for statewide elections) landslide, I'm happy to vote Green Party or whatever. It literally makes no difference. I did usually vote for Jerry Brown because I respect his work ethic though.

You know why you are a horrible person. You already told everyone in the thread.


I've voted for actual socialists, communists and probably anarchists and I'm the problem? The 2 party system is a pathetic joke, one of the more clearly obvious solutions is more parties. 2 farking parties is only 1 better than 1 farking party. Since there's zero swing risk in California, it's the perfect place to do it. Now, notice how I can disagree with you without resorting to personal attacks?
 
2020-08-25 5:40:07 PM  
2 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I've always,always voted third party

Knew you were an asshole, and you went and confirmed it.


I'm an asshole for voting third party in California? I mean, every election is a Dem (hell, there's usually not even a Republican on the ticket for statewide elections) landslide, I'm happy to vote Green Party or whatever. It literally makes no difference. I did usually vote for Jerry Brown because I respect his work ethic though.
 
2020-08-25 5:35:57 PM  
2 votes:

drewogatory: I've always,always voted third party


Knew you were an asshole, and you went and confirmed it.
 
2020-08-25 5:28:46 PM  
2 votes:
"Using the term 'Latinx' makes you JUST AS BAD AS UNREPENTANT BIGOTS."

Dial it back guys, your bait is funking up the thread.
 
2020-08-25 5:21:56 PM  
2 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I have no idea what my friend's politics are. It's just not a subject I ever discuss, because I have zero interest. People can believe whatever stupid shiat they want, I'm not an educator.

Translation: I live in such a place and position of privilege that my friends politics, and politics in general is of no concern to me, I know I'll always be ok, and I don't care about anyone who isn't. They aren't people unless I know them personally and they somehow matter to me.


Ambitwistor: drewogatory: I have no idea what my friend's politics are.

I talk politics with my friends, and I still have more than one.


Eh, I find one is all you need. Even if you are partially illiterate like me. I just find it weird that so many folks seemingly conversate on subjects guaranteed to rile people up. Maybe I worked in bars too long, but I avoid religion and politics as a matter of habit. I'm in California anyway, doesn't really matter how I vote so I've always,always voted third party, I'm pretty sure a candidate I've voted for has never won anything.
 
2020-08-25 5:13:21 PM  
2 votes:

dickfreckle: I can't be around it even online, much less in person.


I hope you'll block me then. A lot of other farkers also stick their heads in the sand, and if they have to come up for air, they close their eyes, stick their fingers in their ears, and scream LALALALALA as loudly as they can to drown it out. I hope it helps.
 
2020-08-25 5:12:29 PM  
2 votes:

drewogatory: I have no idea what my friend's politics are.


I talk politics with my friends, and I still have more than one.
 
2020-08-25 5:10:52 PM  
2 votes:

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

About as much as people should tolerate "Latinx"


So... using respectful language to describe people is just as bad as putting children in cages?

You seem to have a... rather big truncation problem in your priorities.
 
2020-08-25 5:07:38 PM  
2 votes:

Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?


About as much as people should tolerate "Latinx"
 
2020-08-25 5:06:38 PM  
2 votes:

fiddlehead: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: gunga galunga: OrionXVI: gunga galunga: I dumped them all.

All that's left is my mother and my brother. I can't dump them.

Fortunately, they know not to bring up Trump while I am around.

Brothers you can.  I've had to (2 in my case; they've gone full banjo).  Mothers may be harder to dump.

Last time my brother and I discussed politics was before Trump. He took issue with my Facebook page (which I have since quit, for good) and called me up to tell me that I was letting the liberal media tell me what to think. I gave it back to him with both barrels saying that I found that insulting that the implication was that I was too stupid to form my own thoughts or ideas. Also adding, "and by the way, what are your farking unimpeachable sources of information". Since the answer to that question would have been Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, he changed the subject and we've never discussed politics since.

However, I do know from my brother-in-law, whose mother is Facebook friends with my brother's wife, that my brother got a Donald Trump birthday cake for his 50th.

He would have given me no end of shiat if I were ever to have gotten a Obama or a Hillary Clinton birthday cake, and he'd be right to do so. But as long as he is not bringing up politics, neither will I.

You should bring up the birthday cake every year from now on. What is he, five? How farking pathetic, even if Trump wasn't a vile pack of pus.

GIS "Trump cake"

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Enjoy your nightmares.

/Is his head cream-filled?


Cream filled? Probably spiders.
 
2020-08-25 5:05:36 PM  
2 votes:

Minus1Kelvin: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: Some people have gone full Tribal. They can never be brought back. Ever. 

This is something we have to accept. I've lost family. No amount of facts will bring my family back from this. 

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Have you called them cultists? I fear I may eventually let that one slip and I'd like to know how it will be received.


It doesn't matter, cognitive dissonance is a sweet sweet Drug to people like this now. 

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They can not be saved, or changed. It is too late for many now.
 
2020-08-25 4:57:10 PM  
2 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: You should repay the money you owe them first, they'll probably even forgive some to be rid of you.


If only that was true with you. If only.
 
2020-08-25 4:54:55 PM  
2 votes:

Saiga410: Do whatever you want but it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.


It has nothing to do with my ideology being "questioned,"and EVERYTHING to with the fact that Trump is an inveterate c*nt.

If you support him, YOU'RE a c*nt as well, and who would voluntarily be friends with that?
 
2020-08-25 4:48:17 PM  
2 votes:

g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.

All words are made up.

Wow, you're just so clever. So has your junior high started classes again yet?

By the way, don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously in the future. I tried to help you, but if you want to signal to others that you are as gullible as the people in red-hats, that's up to you.


Actually, I have an advanced degree in the topic.

But, y'know, you can keep hiding your head in the sand while culture and therefore language continue to change around you.
 
2020-08-25 4:48:00 PM  
2 votes:
I do this with family as much as possible but with some I do want some of their shiat when they die, so I have to be a bit congenial so as to not be left out of the will.
 
2020-08-25 4:44:44 PM  
2 votes:

g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.


All words are made up.
 
2020-08-26 7:45:43 AM  
1 vote:
I guess I've sort of PRE-shunned these slugs by not knowing any Rapethuglicants in the first place. I won't be even casual acquaintances with a MAGAt, let alone friends.

I don't have Facebook or Twitter and I don't want them.

All of our families are dead except for hubby's sister, with whom we don't have much contact anyway because we severely dislike her husband and it's best for that man's continued health if my husband stays away from him.

Hubby doesn't know any of them, either, and the one person at work he found out was a MAGAt in casual conversation, the guy fills the vending machines and they happened to meet there one afternoon, he's avoided ever since.

As for in the wild, I never leave the house since COVID and hubby only goes to work and the grocery store/gas station and he says that everyone is always wearing masks, so our area must be free from MAGAs generally. Oh! There was one woman at the grocery store last weekend that he said wasn't wearing a mask in the store and he kept well away from her. I'm kind of annoyed that the store didn't kick her out. We may need to shop at another store if it happens again.
 
2020-08-25 10:35:46 PM  
1 vote:

flondrix: They/them as singular pronouns have been part of English for centuries; they are not "neuter" so much as "unspecified" and should cover anybody who does not wish to be referred to a he/him or she/her.  Another thing that English lacks is gender in the first or second person, simplifying things further compared to most other languages.


It fries my brain when I see this applied to one individual.
 
2020-08-25 10:08:51 PM  
1 vote:

odinsposse: State_College_Arsonist: flondrix: State_College_Arsonist: If you stop being friends with someone simply because they're a Republican or a Democrat, you're just an asshole.  That's all there is to it, it's an easy rule to live by.

FTFA:  "When we used to hang out, they would drop racist comments toward me (I am Asian) and say it was just a joke, or do things we don't approve of (steal, tread off trail), or now they find us ridiculous to be social distancing."

This couple has their 10 year old daughter to think about, too.

If you think that all Republicans, and only Republicans, are racists, then you are an idiot.

They should stop supporting racists then. That would help a lot.


They're making it really, really hard to prove otherwise:

An RNC speaker set to appear tonight urged her supporters to research an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about a global Jewish plot to enslave the "goyim."
 
2020-08-25 9:47:47 PM  
1 vote:

flondrix: I have heard way too many new alternative pronouns invented by English speaking people who clearly do not understand that once they venture beyond English, a new gender pronoun means also devising versions of that pronoun, along with definite and indefinite articles, for every grammatical case (and there may be a lot of them), new conjugations for every verb, etc., and revising an entire nation's textbooks accordingly.  Inventing new gender pronouns as if it were no big deal shows that one is unaware of one's Anglocentric privilege, much like the people who can't understand why other folks don't just co-operate with the police and everything will be fine.


Wow.  Did you really just called transgender and nonbinary people privileged because they ... used their own language to find new ways to describe themselves?  Go fark yourself.
 
2020-08-25 9:18:46 PM  
1 vote:

g.fro: flondrix: g.fro: The part you bolded is in reference to the idea being pushed that the Spanish language (and I guess all other Romance language) is deficient because it has two genders. The idea that people from outside a culture trying to dictate how that culture should change to better suit the outsides, is somehow respectful, which is patently absurd.

In grad school I ran into one guy from Spain who was teaching Spanish, and whose English-speaking students were constantly objecting to the use of gender pronouns in Spanish.  This was before transgender and genderfluid pronoun issues had come to public awareness; it was over things like how one referred to a group of men and women--Spanish has grammatical rules about that.  Heaven forbid any of these students would major in anthropology and go observe another culture someday.  (The term "snowflake" was not yet in use either.)

I have heard way too many new alternative pronouns invented by English speaking people who clearly do not understand that once they venture beyond English, a new gender pronoun means also devising versions of that pronoun, along with definite and indefinite articles, for every grammatical case (and there may be a lot of them), new conjugations for every verb, etc., and revising an entire nation's textbooks accordingly.  Inventing new gender pronouns as if it were no big deal shows that one is unaware of one's Anglocentric privilege, much like the people who can't understand why other folks don't just co-operate with the police and everything will be fine.

They/them as singular pronouns have been part of English for centuries; they are not "neuter" so much as "unspecified" and should cover anybody who does not wish to be referred to a he/him or she/her.  Another thing that English lacks is gender in the first or second person, simplifying things further compared to most other languages.

/Yes, English does conjugate its verbs, but not very much, and not by gender.  Also, we don't assign gend ...


If you really want this discussion to end, you should really consider not repeatedly doubling down on your idiocy.
 
2020-08-25 8:58:55 PM  
1 vote:

Leishu: Which so far has only been from a white person who never got any closer to a Latin person than their housekeeper.


I am a mixed race person with latinx family members. This argument is fallacious, and I think you know that.
 
2020-08-25 8:17:15 PM  
1 vote:
I will concede the point that just using the word "Latin" could circumvent much  of this debate, and shouldn't offend anybody except maybe ancient Romans.
 
2020-08-25 8:10:50 PM  
1 vote:

g.fro: LrdPhoenix: g.fro: Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

5 out of 6 dictionaries I just checked disagree with you.

Check a dictionary more than a few years old.


I just did - there are extra u's everywhere, and most of the s's have been replaced with f's. Was 200 years too far to go back? I figured since we're just making up goal posts at this point, didn't really matter.
 
2020-08-25 7:10:13 PM  
1 vote:

austerity101: One of the more refreshing things that's happened since Trump assumed office is that cishet white people have started to realize that "politics" isn't some vague concept divorced from everyday life.  They're seeing that politics informs nearly everything we do--what we eat, where we shop, what we wear, what vehicles we drive.  It affects government at all levels; it affects civil rights and judicial integrity.  It can make people value some people over others, based on things like who they love, or the color of their skin, and indeed it can make people value property over human lives.

Of course, people who aren't straight/cisgender and/or aren't white have always known this--our entire existences are political, because cishet white people ensure that they are.

The next thing we need to get through cishet white people's skulls is that, if you're going to have marginalized friends, having friends who hate those friends because of who they are makes you a selfish asshole.  Cishet whites are so used to not being affected by things like bigotry that they have a really hard time with this concept; but how can I, as a gay man, be friends with people who also have friends who think I shouldn't exist--or worse, that I should be harmed or killed?

Looking at it the other way, how can people justify being friends with homophobes?  "It doesn't affect me so I don't really care" is really, really shiatty and selfish reasoning, especially since all you're doing is excusing (and enabling) their bigotry, which affect your queer friends.  You really have to make a choice, out of respect for your marginalized friends.  I'm certainly not going to want to hang out with you if there's a chance I'm going to be stuck in a place with someone you know who hates me just because I like dudes.

Letting go of toxic friends is self care.  Letting go of bigoted friends is simply the decent thing to do.  Stop thinking just of yourself and start thinking about everyone else.


John Cena Love Has No Labels "We Are America"
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2020-08-25 7:02:15 PM  
1 vote:

Fear the Clam: RobotSpider: True story:


Don't sweat it. They probably hired their current contractor because of a Jesus fish in the Yellow Pages ad.
"This guy won't fark us over, he has a Jesus fish!"


Son, you must have a big hammer, 'cause you hit the nail right on the head. I live in Grand Rapids, MI. Home of Betsy DeVos (well, ONE of her homes). I happen to live in the flight path of the helicopter that takes her from GRR to her house on the lakeshore. To say people here choose their service companies "because Jesus" is the understatement of a lifetime.
 
2020-08-25 6:42:37 PM  
1 vote:

fiddlehead: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: gunga galunga: OrionXVI: gunga galunga: I dumped them all.

All that's left is my mother and my brother. I can't dump them.

Fortunately, they know not to bring up Trump while I am around.

Brothers you can.  I've had to (2 in my case; they've gone full banjo).  Mothers may be harder to dump.

Last time my brother and I discussed politics was before Trump. He took issue with my Facebook page (which I have since quit, for good) and called me up to tell me that I was letting the liberal media tell me what to think. I gave it back to him with both barrels saying that I found that insulting that the implication was that I was too stupid to form my own thoughts or ideas. Also adding, "and by the way, what are your farking unimpeachable sources of information". Since the answer to that question would have been Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, he changed the subject and we've never discussed politics since.

However, I do know from my brother-in-law, whose mother is Facebook friends with my brother's wife, that my brother got a Donald Trump birthday cake for his 50th.

He would have given me no end of shiat if I were ever to have gotten a Obama or a Hillary Clinton birthday cake, and he'd be right to do so. But as long as he is not bringing up politics, neither will I.

You should bring up the birthday cake every year from now on. What is he, five? How farking pathetic, even if Trump wasn't a vile pack of pus.

GIS "Trump cake"

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Enjoy your nightmares.

/Is his head cream-filled?


Gawd what a hideous cake.
 
2020-08-25 6:42:22 PM  
1 vote:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: Smelly Pirate Hooker: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: Smelly Pirate Hooker: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: For those curious, the picture of the shrine wall is from the grandmothers house, Who until a few years ago, was a NY born, moved to FL Democrat.
That was until the Fox nation attacked. 
My Mother built the shrine for her, and helped her decorate with those oh so lovely other things. 
You'll note in the first picture, Grandpa's flag is at the bottom, it has been on the mantel for decades until my mother got her hands on it for the TRUMPINFURER Shrine. 
Then his flag went to the bottom, surrounded by Icons of a man who never served..
In the later picture, the clear one you see, its up higher now, as I lost my shiat one year and brought that subject up (Grandpa was a lifelong Democrat) 
Now its a little higher up on the shrine, still surrounded by Trump Icons. 
I haven't been back to visit my mother or grandmother in over a year and changed, The most contact Ive had was to mail them some masks.

Sorry. (._.) Sincerely. Both my parents are dead, so I don't have to hear any lunacy from either of them. Apparently, my brother (I have 2 sisters and a brother) is still on the moron train, but we don't discuss politics. If he had anything like that in his house, I'd probably avoid him, but he doesn't. I saw him this past weekend.

He doesn't have anything like that... yet... Yet.

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Well, I haven't seen the inside of his closet. Maybe he's got it in there. If he had one but was hiding it, that would indicate some awareness that having a literal shrine to literally the worst person on earth was insane. When I see any evidence of worship, like a sign in the yard or any other crap like that, yeah, I'll be avoiding him. Not that hard to do. We don't hang all that often.

May your friend accept and acknowledge hes mad a horrible mistake. 

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Razorblade on a painted bumper?
 
2020-08-25 6:37:53 PM  
1 vote:
Ask a trump supporter if he has ever made a mistake and make sure to point out that nobody is perfect.  Watch them struggle to divide by zero.
 
2020-08-25 6:26:11 PM  
1 vote:
One of the more refreshing things that's happened since Trump assumed office is that cishet white people have started to realize that "politics" isn't some vague concept divorced from everyday life.  They're seeing that politics informs nearly everything we do--what we eat, where we shop, what we wear, what vehicles we drive.  It affects government at all levels; it affects civil rights and judicial integrity.  It can make people value some people over others, based on things like who they love, or the color of their skin, and indeed it can make people value property over human lives.

Of course, people who aren't straight/cisgender and/or aren't white have always known this--our entire existences are political, because cishet white people ensure that they are.

The next thing we need to get through cishet white people's skulls is that, if you're going to have marginalized friends, having friends who hate those friends because of who they are makes you a selfish asshole.  Cishet whites are so used to not being affected by things like bigotry that they have a really hard time with this concept; but how can I, as a gay man, be friends with people who also have friends who think I shouldn't exist--or worse, that I should be harmed or killed?

Looking at it the other way, how can people justify being friends with homophobes?  "It doesn't affect me so I don't really care" is really, really shiatty and selfish reasoning, especially since all you're doing is excusing (and enabling) their bigotry, which affect your queer friends.  You really have to make a choice, out of respect for your marginalized friends.  I'm certainly not going to want to hang out with you if there's a chance I'm going to be stuck in a place with someone you know who hates me just because I like dudes.

Letting go of toxic friends is self care.  Letting go of bigoted friends is simply the decent thing to do.  Stop thinking just of yourself and start thinking about everyone else.
 
2020-08-25 6:17:45 PM  
1 vote:

Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.


Don't get...anyone...started on the definition of slavery. They might wish a horrible death on your whole family if you do.
 
2020-08-25 6:12:14 PM  
1 vote:
I think it's a bit weird, because within the LGBTQIA+ spectrum, the answer of yes to Subby's question is taken as common sense. People who profess hate to queer folk are a threat to me, so they don't get to share my space if I can avoid it.

It's as simple as that. Self-preservation.
 
2020-08-25 6:07:53 PM  
1 vote:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I've always,always voted third party

Knew you were an asshole, and you went and confirmed it.

I'm an asshole for voting third party in California? I mean, every election is a Dem (hell, there's usually not even a Republican on the ticket for statewide elections) landslide, I'm happy to vote Green Party or whatever. It literally makes no difference. I did usually vote for Jerry Brown because I respect his work ethic though.

You know why you are a horrible person. You already told everyone in the thread.

I've voted for actual socialists, communists and probably anarchists and I'm the problem? The 2 party system is a pathetic joke, one of the more clearly obvious solutions is more parties. 2 farking parties is only 1 better than 1 farking party. Since there's zero swing risk in California, it's the perfect place to do it. Now, notice how I can disagree with you without resorting to personal attacks?

You know why.


Did we date?
 
2020-08-25 5:57:27 PM  
1 vote:

Minus1Kelvin: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: There is no coming back. 

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Oooooooof.


That tile grout. I know, right?
 
2020-08-25 5:57:19 PM  
1 vote:

drewogatory: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I've always,always voted third party

Knew you were an asshole, and you went and confirmed it.

I'm an asshole for voting third party in California? I mean, every election is a Dem (hell, there's usually not even a Republican on the ticket for statewide elections) landslide, I'm happy to vote Green Party or whatever. It literally makes no difference. I did usually vote for Jerry Brown because I respect his work ethic though.

You know why you are a horrible person. You already told everyone in the thread.

I've voted for actual socialists, communists and probably anarchists and I'm the problem? The 2 party system is a pathetic joke, one of the more clearly obvious solutions is more parties. 2 farking parties is only 1 better than 1 farking party. Since there's zero swing risk in California, it's the perfect place to do it. Now, notice how I can disagree with you without resorting to personal attacks?


If I may: Do you believe that people in swing states should not be voting third party, then?

I have my opinions on this, but this is definitely a matter in which I find myself constantly questioning my own views.
 
2020-08-25 5:52:47 PM  
1 vote:

alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax: Leishu: twat_waffle: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

But he's right. The Spanish language has two genders. This is just an attempt by mostly white liberals to shoehorn a neuter gender into Spanish as an exercise in performative wokeness. To me, it feels a bit like appropriation. We don't turn "Chicano" into "Chicanx," so why do it to "Latino."

I'm very conscious of the words I use to describe people. I use "aboriginal" or "First Nations" instead of "Indian" or "Native American." "Latinx" just feels contrived to me. I don't see the point.

He didn't say the spanish language - he said any language, and I was typing in English.

I really think we need at least a couple of Esperanto speakers to chime in. They got all kinds of weird shiat in that language, I bet "Latinx" is in there somewhere.


Esperanto is a language that simultaneously amuses and perplexes me, which results in further amusement.
 
2020-08-25 5:45:00 PM  
1 vote:

g.fro: alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

So are people who make up words.

Try to be better than them.

All words are made up.

Wow, you're just so clever. So has your junior high started classes again yet?

By the way, don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously in the future. I tried to help you, but if you want to signal to others that you are as gullible as the people in red-hats, that's up to you.

Actually, I have an advanced degree in the topic.

But, y'know, you can keep hiding your head in the sand while culture and therefore language continue to change around you.

Oh, so you're one of those over-educated white people who gets to tell others how their culture (and apparently language as well) is wrong. Whatever would the oppressed do without you to save them? Never mind what I said about you being as gullible as the red-hats; you are as racist. You just found a better way to hide it.

Yeah, don't be surprised when no one takes anything you say seriously, they'll be right not to.

I guess anybody seems "overeducated" if you're proud of being stupid.

I bolded the really ironic part, just in case anybody missed it.

The part you bolded is in reference to the idea being pushed that the Spanish language (and I guess all other Romance language) is deficient because it has two genders. The idea that people from outside a culture trying to dictate how that cul ...


You're reading a lot into a term that I use because I have been specifically asked to by friends of that culture because they don't believe that Latino or Latina are adequate to describe them. In English.
 
2020-08-25 5:43:38 PM  
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sleze: Difficulty:  Parents are Trumpists


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2020-08-25 5:29:16 PM  
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UltimaCS: Republicans are Nazis. I wouldn't want to be associated with either of them, and the sooner they disavow that shiat, the better.


I'm no pollster, but I'm pretty sure there are more than two Republicans.
 
2020-08-25 5:27:38 PM  
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*time, you stupid phone
 
2020-08-25 5:26:32 PM  
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twat_waffle: Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.

But he's right. The Spanish language has two genders. This is just an attempt by mostly white liberals to shoehorn a neuter gender into Spanish as an exercise in performative wokeness. To me, it feels a bit like appropriation. We don't turn "Chicano" into "Chicanx," so why do it to "Latino."

I'm very conscious of the words I use to describe people. I use "aboriginal" or "First Nations" instead of "Indian" or "Native American." "Latinx" just feels contrived to me. I don't see the point.


He didn't say the spanish language - he said any language, and I was typing in English.
 
2020-08-25 5:23:05 PM  
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gonegirl: Maybe you'll get lucky and won't have to dump them at all: One of the Trumpers in my parents' friend circle (who I grew up fearing and hating) dropped dead of Covid. It felt wonderful.


Jealous.
 
2020-08-25 5:17:55 PM  
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Leishu: g.fro: Leishu: Saiga410: it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.

What about your personhood? Is it weak to not allow your personhood questioned by others?
What about the lives of countless latinx people?
What about the fact that over 175 thousand people is a bad thing?
What about the fact that science is real?

How much should people tolerate of bigots before a threshold at which it is okay to not keep them around as friends is reached?

Just FYI:  "latinx" is not a word in any language.

Prescriptivists are funny, and stupid.


But he's right. The Spanish language has two genders. This is just an attempt by mostly white liberals to shoehorn a neuter gender into Spanish as an exercise in performative wokeness. To me, it feels a bit like appropriation. We don't turn "Chicano" into "Chicanx," so why do it to "Latino."

I'm very conscious of the words I use to describe people. I use "aboriginal" or "First Nations" instead of "Indian" or "Native American." "Latinx" just feels contrived to me. I don't see the point.
 
2020-08-25 5:13:17 PM  
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JustToLetYouKnowFriend: drewogatory: I have no idea what my friend's politics are. It's just not a subject I ever discuss, because I have zero interest. People can believe whatever stupid shiat they want, I'm not an educator.

Translation: I live in such a place and position of privilege that my friends politics, and politics in general is of no concern to me, I know I'll always be ok, and I don't care about anyone who isn't. They aren't people unless I know them personally and they somehow matter to me.


That's my motto.  People I don't know are just a vague amalgam of boobs and douchebags.
 
2020-08-25 5:12:44 PM  
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For those curious, the picture of the shrine wall is from the grandmothers house, Who until a few years ago, was a NY born, moved to FL Democrat.

That was until the Fox nation attacked. 

My Mother built the shrine for her, and helped her decorate with those oh so lovely other things. 

You'll note in the first picture, Grandpa's flag is at the bottom, it has been on the mantel for decades until my mother got her hands on it for the TRUMPINFURER Shrine. 

Then his flag went to the bottom, surrounded by Icons of a man who never served..

In the later picture, the clear one you see, its up higher now, as I lost my shiat one year and brought that subject up (Grandpa was a lifelong Democrat) 

Now its a little higher up on the shrine, still surrounded by Trump Icons. 

I haven't been back to visit my mother or grandmother in over a year and changed, The most contact Ive had was to mail them some masks.
 
2020-08-25 5:04:01 PM  
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drewogatory: I have no idea what my friend's politics are. It's just not a subject I ever discuss, because I have zero interest. People can believe whatever stupid shiat they want, I'm not an educator.


You also apparently don't care if you inadvertently associate with fascists.
 
2020-08-25 5:03:54 PM  
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LegacyDL: Conservatism died when Eisenhower left the White House.


No that was rational Republicanism. Conservatism led directly and inexorably to trump.
 
2020-08-25 5:02:46 PM  
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g.fro: Oh, so you're one of those over-educated white people who gets to tell others how their culture (and apparently language as well) is wrong


You're the one who told me my language was wrong. And am I in middle school or over-educated? Your trolling comes off as milquetoast when it's not even intellectually consistent.
 
2020-08-25 4:47:04 PM  
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Saiga410: Do whatever you want but it is a bit weak that you cannot stand to have your ideology questioned by others.  About the only thing that I will cut off friends are drugs.  I dont mind if you do them but if you start in a full on addiction spiral and you do not listen to everyone trying to help you... well you are not bringing me down with you.  Have only done that twice.  They finally bounced from bottom and we talk years later.


The guy defending Proud Boys is going to tell the rest of us how to handle having our ideologies questioned, everyone.

Feel free to mock the everloving fark out of this waste of time.
 
2020-08-25 4:44:54 PM  
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Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: It is your obligation to do so.


No, it your obligation to take their derp to the next level.

Don't just be for voter ID, be for one voting location in each country, with a single line per 10k people, where each line must be monitored by a representative from each party with 1% or more registration, the only people allowed to vote absentee are soldiers deployed overseas, and everyone else much show up in person at the polls, which are only open from 0800-2000.

Demand the Rethuglicans stop stealing your tax money to redistribute wealth to those lazy rural no-goodnik soshulists, with refrigerators, using that money to eat big government steaks and lobsters, while driving around in luxury cars. They can't afford to bus their own kids to school they can raise their own taxes, have a bake sale, or maybe merge school districts.

Take a Rethuglican Party talking point, crank it to 11. Say if they don't support the changes they want (in these two examples) elections stolen and soshulizms. I go to the diner (outside seating for now) near home and most of what's left of the Trumpublicans scatter when the car pulls in because they know I'll highlight all that ebil big gubbermint money they're suckling from the big gubbermint teat.

Embrace, and extend, their idea to turn it against them in ways they weren't expecting to happen. The soshulizms argument is great. Honestly though, hammer on the voting one for now. They backpedal on all that shiat fast when they figure out they're going to be in line, probably for hours, plus adding 15-30 minutes each way just to get to/from the polling station. When they balk, start calling them durty soshulists.
 
2020-08-25 4:39:29 PM  
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You should repay the money you owe them first, they'll probably even forgive some to be rid of you.
 
2020-08-25 4:39:20 PM  
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True story:

I'm thinking of having an addition put on my garage to build a workshop. Someone down the road is having the exact same thing done right now. I don't know them, but was going to stop and say "hey, who are you using, what restrictions are there, etc." Driving by one day I saw a Trump 2020 sign in their yard and thought "nah, I'll just call around to contractors". I hate that I made that decision based on that. But this is so far beyond just "party politics" at this point. If it was ONLY "politics", it'd be fine. We can disagree all day. But the conspiracies and threats and lies and stoking the flames of fear... it's all just too much. I don't want anything to do with someone who supports that. Which, now that I think about it, will make it hard to find a contractor.
 
2020-08-25 4:35:41 PM  
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Republicans are Nazis. I wouldn't want to be associated with either of them, and the sooner they disavow that shiat, the better.
 
2020-08-25 4:33:47 PM  
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2020-08-25 4:31:39 PM  
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Worked for me. An old girlfriend/friend went nutzoid. Voted for the dickweed because she believes that Soros is an actual Nazi who would've had Hillary start concentration camps. She didn't listen to me, an actual Jew, who knows better than her about such things.
Haven't spoken to her in almost 4 years. A little curious if she's learned anything since then. But I certainly don't lose any sleep over it.
 
2020-08-25 4:28:21 PM  
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PunGent: Conservative?  No.

Trumpers?  Hell, yes.

There's nothing conservative about Trumpism.


They're completely the same.
 
2020-08-25 4:11:19 PM  
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My good friends' politics are pretty close to mine. My casual friends, theirs are all over the map. The saddest part of the Trump era has been finding out just how racist some of them are. It never came out before.
 
2020-08-25 3:06:21 PM  
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It is your obligation to do so.
 
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