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(Kotaku)   Activision replaces the latest "Call of Duty" trailer worldwide because China's fee-fees would be hurt as it contains one second of Tiananmen Square footage   (kotaku.com) divider line
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2020-08-25 6:10:05 PM  
At this point, fark China.
 
2020-08-25 6:14:27 PM  
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2020-08-25 6:33:31 PM  

drewsfarkthrowaway: At this point, fark China.


this x 1.3 billion
 
2020-08-25 6:34:02 PM  
Internet cafes in China are a big deal when it comes to gaming revenue, and that is why game makers jump through some major hoops to ensure that their titles run well on hacked copies of a certain obsolete operating system.
 
2020-08-25 6:38:03 PM  

drewsfarkthrowaway: At this point, fark China.


At this point, fark Activision.
 
2020-08-25 6:41:07 PM  
is anyone still playing farking COD? what is this, 2009?
 
2020-08-25 6:45:59 PM  
It's highly ironic, considering the premise of the games plot.
 
2020-08-25 6:46:46 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Internet cafes in China are a big deal when it comes to gaming revenue, and that is why game makers jump through some major hoops to ensure that their titles run well on hacked copies of a certain obsolete operating system.


Why? Wouldn't they be running pirated copies of their games as well? Presumably in pirated servers.

Why pay for games if you won't pay for an OS, or even use a free one, like Linux? Seems like the Cafes should be pushing for these games to run in Linux or least Wine, assuming someone is paying for the games.
 
2020-08-25 7:10:32 PM  
Though this is also the part where we mention that Chinese gaming giant Tencent has a 5% stake in Activision, the publishers of Call of Duty.

5% is a money quantity only. Who gives a fark about a 5% shareholder. If they had said 50%, I would have been like, "Oh yeah, fair enough", or even 30% is enough to tip a vote.

But 5% may as well be 1%, or 5 shares.
 
2020-08-25 8:14:07 PM  

Quantumbunny: fragMasterFlash: Internet cafes in China are a big deal when it comes to gaming revenue, and that is why game makers jump through some major hoops to ensure that their titles run well on hacked copies of a certain obsolete operating system.

Why? Wouldn't they be running pirated copies of their games as well? Presumably in pirated servers.

Why pay for games if you won't pay for an OS, or even use a free one, like Linux? Seems like the Cafes should be pushing for these games to run in Linux or least Wine, assuming someone is paying for the games.


Online play is a big deal and you cannot do that with a pirated game. The game itself has no way of knowing if the OS its installed upon has a legit license so saving a few bucks on that times MANY millions of machines is not exactly small change.
 
2020-08-25 8:35:59 PM  

kryptoknightmare: is anyone still playing farking COD? what is this, 2009?


The whole premise of Call of Duty baffles me. The only thing that makes the game unique is that when you get kill streaks, you get bonuses so that you can get more kills.

"Yes, this guy is stomping everyone else. But is he stomping them enough? We say no. He gets an attack helicopter that hunts down everyone all over the map and guns them down."

How does a game so overtly hostile to new players become popular in the first place?
 
2020-08-25 8:40:51 PM  

Puglio: kryptoknightmare: is anyone still playing farking COD? what is this, 2009?

The whole premise of Call of Duty baffles me. The only thing that makes the game unique is that when you get kill streaks, you get bonuses so that you can get more kills.

"Yes, this guy is stomping everyone else. But is he stomping them enough? We say no. He gets an attack helicopter that hunts down everyone all over the map and guns them down."

How does a game so overtly hostile to new players become popular in the first place?


Because there's a good sized market of guys who delight in utterly dominating and humiliating other less experienced guys who feel better for the experience and keep returning for more?
 
2020-08-25 8:41:35 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Quantumbunny: fragMasterFlash: Internet cafes in China are a big deal when it comes to gaming revenue, and that is why game makers jump through some major hoops to ensure that their titles run well on hacked copies of a certain obsolete operating system.

Why? Wouldn't they be running pirated copies of their games as well? Presumably in pirated servers.

Why pay for games if you won't pay for an OS, or even use a free one, like Linux? Seems like the Cafes should be pushing for these games to run in Linux or least Wine, assuming someone is paying for the games.

Online play is a big deal and you cannot do that with a pirated game. The game itself has no way of knowing if the OS its installed upon has a legit license so saving a few bucks on that times MANY millions of machines is not exactly small change.


The hypocrisy of a software company selling software they don't want pirated knowingly supporting running on pirated software is very Activision. FU, we got ours.

They could at least have the base minimum respect for others software vendors to release new games only for modern platforms. Supporting Windows XP can't be that much less work than supporting Linux, for instance.

For the Cafes buying most computers with enough hardware to run modern games should come with a license for modern Windows for basically nothing. And unless you're telling me a single person or company but all those millions of PCs, that's not a lot of savings.

Even if your Cafe had 20 computers, buying them without an OS license wouldn't save you much. Granted I'm not sure how the Chinese PC market plays differently than US, but finding a prebuilt PC instead parts without Windows is something I'd actively have to track down, and the savings is not actually the cost of a full license. From Dell for instance, I think you can get like $15 off without Windows for small batch machines. Buying them by the hundred as a large scale corporation can get better.
 
2020-08-25 8:58:05 PM  

Quantumbunny: The hypocrisy of a software company selling software they don't want pirated knowingly supporting running on pirated software is very Activision. FU, we got ours.


This is pretty much every software company that does anything that runs on Windows.
 
2020-08-26 1:27:40 AM  

Puglio: kryptoknightmare: is anyone still playing farking COD? what is this, 2009?

The whole premise of Call of Duty baffles me. The only thing that makes the game unique is that when you get kill streaks, you get bonuses so that you can get more kills.

"Yes, this guy is stomping everyone else. But is he stomping them enough? We say no. He gets an attack helicopter that hunts down everyone all over the map and guns them down."

How does a game so overtly hostile to new players become popular in the first place?


Have no fear, Aim Assist on the consoles and controller mods like Cronus Max have pretty much evened the playing field with your super skilled PC players running 100+fps with field of view cranked up. Seriously. It is pretty dumb. You can be a pretty new player and on console get kill streaks pretty easily. Run around with an MP5 or MP7 and Kar95 quickscope.
 
2020-08-26 8:26:50 AM  
Tiananmen Square? Don't know what you're talking about. Never happened.
 
2020-08-26 8:41:19 AM  

Puglio: kryptoknightmare: is anyone still playing farking COD? what is this, 2009?

The whole premise of Call of Duty baffles me. The only thing that makes the game unique is that when you get kill streaks, you get bonuses so that you can get more kills.

"Yes, this guy is stomping everyone else. But is he stomping them enough? We say no. He gets an attack helicopter that hunts down everyone all over the map and guns them down."

How does a game so overtly hostile to new players become popular in the first place?


Because it's actually a lot closer to a slot machines than a game based on skill so everyone can feel like a badass. My friends and I stopped playing CoD years ago as it got increasingly absurd and the gameplay became so flat. You absolutely do not have to be anything even approaching competent to get kill streaks going.
 
2020-08-26 11:18:26 AM  

Quantumbunny: fragMasterFlash: Internet cafes in China are a big deal when it comes to gaming revenue, and that is why game makers jump through some major hoops to ensure that their titles run well on hacked copies of a certain obsolete operating system.

Why? Wouldn't they be running pirated copies of their games as well? Presumably in pirated servers.

Why pay for games if you won't pay for an OS, or even use a free one, like Linux? Seems like the Cafes should be pushing for these games to run in Linux or least Wine, assuming someone is paying for the games.


You can absolutely run pirated copies of the game, but the individual gamers are forking over their dollars - er yen - to play online.  That's the real revenue stream.
 
2020-08-26 11:21:51 AM  

Quantumbunny: fragMasterFlash: Quantumbunny: fragMasterFlash: Internet cafes in China are a big deal when it comes to gaming revenue, and that is why game makers jump through some major hoops to ensure that their titles run well on hacked copies of a certain obsolete operating system.

Why? Wouldn't they be running pirated copies of their games as well? Presumably in pirated servers.

Why pay for games if you won't pay for an OS, or even use a free one, like Linux? Seems like the Cafes should be pushing for these games to run in Linux or least Wine, assuming someone is paying for the games.

Online play is a big deal and you cannot do that with a pirated game. The game itself has no way of knowing if the OS its installed upon has a legit license so saving a few bucks on that times MANY millions of machines is not exactly small change.

The hypocrisy of a software company selling software they don't want pirated knowingly supporting running on pirated software is very Activision. FU, we got ours.

They could at least have the base minimum respect for others software vendors to release new games only for modern platforms. Supporting Windows XP can't be that much less work than supporting Linux, for instance.

For the Cafes buying most computers with enough hardware to run modern games should come with a license for modern Windows for basically nothing. And unless you're telling me a single person or company but all those millions of PCs, that's not a lot of savings.

Even if your Cafe had 20 computers, buying them without an OS license wouldn't save you much. Granted I'm not sure how the Chinese PC market plays differently than US, but finding a prebuilt PC instead parts without Windows is something I'd actively have to track down, and the savings is not actually the cost of a full license. From Dell for instance, I think you can get like $15 off without Windows for small batch machines. Buying them by the hundred as a large scale corporation can get better.


LOL they aren't playing on Dells.  They are either building their own for the cafe (massive savings) or buying from a company that makes gaming machines.  In both cases, you are saving the full retail price of Windows, or close to it, by not purchasing it.
 
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