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1521 clicks; posted to Fandom » on 25 Aug 2020 at 8:23 AM (13 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-08-25 7:10:06 AM  
They'll get over it
 
2020-08-25 7:22:27 AM  
They're very Brave.
 
2020-08-25 7:28:34 AM  
I'm annoyed it wiped my start page with all my most visited sites on the upgrade. The icons on the new version are too small
 
2020-08-25 8:12:45 AM  
I've been running the Fenix preview for a while. The lack of extensions suck, and it really doesn't like the Fark mobile page.
 
2020-08-25 10:02:19 AM  

no1curr: I'm annoyed it wiped my start page with all my most visited sites on the upgrade. The icons on the new version are too small


That and the bookmarks that are no longer available under a single click but need to be approached from a menu.

Addon control (makes noscript more of an effort on new sites) that disappeared under another click.

It no longer closes all my tabs when I stop the application.
 
2020-08-25 10:24:19 AM  
Good thing I've got automatic updates turned off. Of course, Firefox mobile has always been kind of crap, many web sites cause it to crash, and you can't even do things like reorder bookmarks. But I like that you can have addons like adblock and noscript.
 
2020-08-25 10:49:37 AM  
Firefox breaking everything again? Didn't they just do that a couple of years ago?
 
2020-08-25 12:28:14 PM  
If you like any current app, NEVER update it. This I have learned.
It always ends in sorrow.
 
2020-08-25 1:13:24 PM  

trialpha: Firefox breaking everything again? Didn't they just do that a couple of years ago?


Kind of, but this is specifically the Android version being broken. I use Firefox on Android and have several extensions installed and as far as I can tell only one of them will work on the 27th when the update gets pushed in the USA.

Firefox (desktop) switched to a similar-but-not-identical-to-Chromium addons system, which really did break a bunch of stuff for a bunch of users, and also moved to a thread-per-tab process model that deeply sucks for people who like to have a lot of open tabs open but improved the experience for a lot of other folks.

I suppose I'll treat this as an opportunity to consider if I really want to stick with Firefox on Android but last time I looked, nothing else really had the privacy or customization tools I want.
 
2020-08-25 1:38:58 PM  
I just wish they would find whatever makes the desktop version consume more and more memory over time and fix it.  I know, someone will claim they fixed it several versions ago but that is bullshiat.  I have to close Firefox (and use Task Manager to find and kill any Firefox processes that didn't quit) a couple times a week to get my memory back.
 
2020-08-25 4:26:46 PM  

flondrix: I just wish they would find whatever makes the desktop version consume more and more memory over time and fix it.  I know, someone will claim they fixed it several versions ago but that is bullshiat.  I have to close Firefox (and use Task Manager to find and kill any Firefox processes that didn't quit) a couple times a week to get my memory back.


Perhaps more than 2GB of system memory would be a beneficial upgrade for you. I have 32GB in my workstation and I haven't closed Firefox in months. It is currently using 1.1GB of memory with 22 tabs open.
 
2020-08-25 7:11:29 PM  

GardenWeasel: I've been running the Fenix preview for a while. The lack of extensions suck, and it really doesn't like the Fark mobile page.


It doesn't like the Fark comment popup, that's for sure.

I specifically went and installed the 79 a bit ago because I wanted it. It runs fine for me, and has uBlock Origin and Https Everywhere, which for mobile, is all I needed.

They allow URL and tabs on bottom, which is great. In general I really like it.

The biggest gripe I have is the weird Collections thing. For webcomics, Fark and other pages with rotating content in a current page, it doesn't make sense because it won't refresh to the new content.

Due to it failing in my primary use cases, I'm currently on Vivaldi for Android. I assume Firefox will get fixed eventually, and I'll try it again. Maybe I'll go back.
 
2020-08-25 8:11:14 PM  

Caelistis: flondrix: I just wish they would find whatever makes the desktop version consume more and more memory over time and fix it.  I know, someone will claim they fixed it several versions ago but that is bullshiat.  I have to close Firefox (and use Task Manager to find and kill any Firefox processes that didn't quit) a couple times a week to get my memory back.

Perhaps more than 2GB of system memory would be a beneficial upgrade for you. I have 32GB in my workstation and I haven't closed Firefox in months. It is currently using 1.1GB of memory with 22 tabs open.


Doubling from 8GB to 16GB has certainly helped; I can let Firefox gobble memory until I am about to do something else that might benefit from the memory expansion.
 
2020-08-25 8:12:21 PM  

flondrix: I just wish they would find whatever makes the desktop version consume more and more memory over time and fix it.  I know, someone will claim they fixed it several versions ago but that is bullshiat.  I have to close Firefox (and use Task Manager to find and kill any Firefox processes that didn't quit) a couple times a week to get my memory back.


The thing is that it might be coming from an Add-On or shiatty javascript on one or more tabs you use a lot. If you're a person who leans on having a lot of open tabs, you might be better off with a browser that uses a monolithic process model. I use Palemoon primarily because I like to keep 60+ tabs open most of the time, and because Palemoon still works with addons that don't have an equivalent in contemporary Firefox or Webkit browsers.

At the same time, if you're on a PC with an SSD and at least 8GB RAM, closing your browser and loading back up is probably a 15 second inconvenience once or twice a day.
 
2020-08-26 1:40:39 PM  

likefunbutnot: flondrix: I just wish they would find whatever makes the desktop version consume more and more memory over time and fix it.  I know, someone will claim they fixed it several versions ago but that is bullshiat.  I have to close Firefox (and use Task Manager to find and kill any Firefox processes that didn't quit) a couple times a week to get my memory back.

The thing is that it might be coming from an Add-On or shiatty javascript on one or more tabs you use a lot. If you're a person who leans on having a lot of open tabs, you might be better off with a browser that uses a monolithic process model. I use Palemoon primarily because I like to keep 60+ tabs open most of the time, and because Palemoon still works with addons that don't have an equivalent in contemporary Firefox or Webkit browsers.

At the same time, if you're on a PC with an SSD and at least 8GB RAM, closing your browser and loading back up is probably a 15 second inconvenience once or twice a day.


Except that it means losing all those tabs.  The thing I like about Firefox is that I have it set to store nothing long term, and forget whatever it does know everytime I close and re-open it.  In theory other browsers can be set to do this, but not as easily, and besides, for some types of "real work" you actually want to hold on to data.  So I use another browser for "real work" and Firefox for farking around.  Every time I start up Firefox, there should be no evidence that I have used Firefox before.  Well, except for my bookmarks.

Does Palemoon work well as a "forget everything" paranoid privacy pron browser?
 
2020-08-26 9:11:20 PM  

flondrix: Except that it means losing all those tabs.


There's an Add-on Called Session Manager that gives a lot more flexibility to your starting tab group. I have a couple sets defined for that reason. One is work stuff and another is personal or NSFW. It's very handy. You don't have to lose anything just to a closed browser though.
 
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