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(Axios)   Everyone's high on the Bannon news right now, but a federal judge just threw out Trump's attempt to block Manhattan DA Vance from seeing his tax returns. You know, the guy investigating Trump for massive fraud   (axios.com) divider line
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2020-08-20 10:20:25 AM  
64 votes:
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2020-08-20 10:24:31 AM  
62 votes:
Trump 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 deputy campaign manager Rick Gates: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort: Convicted felon
Trump's first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump friend and 2016 campaign agent Roger Stone: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign "chief executive" and former Trump White House Strategist Steve Bannon: Arrested


You guys, I'm starting to think this "Trump" fellow may not be on the up and up.
 
2020-08-20 10:19:26 AM  
62 votes:

BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"


Shiat son, i do too. 😏
 
2020-08-20 10:28:50 AM  
49 votes:
And just now:
The Second Circuit DENIES a stay for police unions wanting to block the @NYCLU from publishing disciplinary records made available under New York's pro-transparency legislation.


Background https://t.co/TkGmVwzV7H pic.twitter.com/2553foM9UC
- Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) August 20, 2020
 
2020-08-20 10:18:41 AM  
49 votes:
I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"
 
2020-08-20 10:19:06 AM  
42 votes:
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2020-08-20 10:29:14 AM  
41 votes:
A 103 page order that basically says Trump's arguments have no merit at all and dismissed with prejudice and no leave to amend.
 
2020-08-20 10:38:47 AM  
38 votes:

eurotrader: A 103 page order that basically says Trump's arguments have no merit at all and dismissed with prejudice and no leave to amend.


Wow. That's extraordinary.

For you non-law talking guy types, it is customary to give a litigant a chance to amend his pleadings to state a cause of action.  If the order specifically excludes that right, the judge is effectively saying Trump's argument was so flawed and baseless it is all but sanctionable.
 
2020-08-20 10:16:43 AM  
37 votes:
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2020-08-20 10:38:42 AM  
31 votes:

bluorangefyre: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

12:00:01 PM EST on January 20, 2021.  Or, literally the second after his term ends.


It would be awesome to see a split screen... on the left "I, Joe Biden, do solemnly swear", and on the right, "Mr. Trump, you have the right to remain silent"
 
2020-08-20 10:44:05 AM  
29 votes:
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2020-08-20 10:31:24 AM  
26 votes:

NeedlesslyCanadian: Trump 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 deputy campaign manager Rick Gates: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort: Convicted felon
Trump's first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump friend and 2016 campaign agent Roger Stone: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign "chief executive" and former Trump White House Strategist Steve Bannon: Arrested


You guys, I'm starting to think this "Trump" fellow may not be on the up and up.


"Mr. Trump, everyone around you has been arrested and/or convicted for corruption and malfeasance and yet you claim to have had no knowledge of the wrongdoing. The question I have for you then is this, are you lying about being corrupt and should be removed from office, or just to stupid to perform the job you were elected to do to see it happening right in front of you?"
 
2020-08-20 10:26:27 AM  
25 votes:
Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.
 
2020-08-20 10:24:26 AM  
25 votes:

BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"


This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.
 
2020-08-20 10:38:26 AM  
24 votes:
Let's hope we see more August Surprises and September Surprises and October Surprises like this.
 
2020-08-20 10:23:06 AM  
24 votes:
I just got back from moving a 5K lbs safe, I'm sweaty, a little sore, and I sit down, open up fark for a minute before I have to go back out and do some other stuff...

I'm smiling though... Today is a good day...
 
2020-08-20 10:42:55 AM  
23 votes:

Public Call Box: Unfortunately, we the viewing public ain't going to see any of the juicy details.

But a State impaneled grand jury will.

/I'mOKwiththis.jpg


We already know one line of details.

Over decades, Fred Trump illegally paid his children through fake invoices for upkeep or supplies for rental units.

As a side bonus, this allowed them to raise rents on tenants by showing the Housing Authority their "high" costs.

For Donald alone this is estimated to be close to $500,000,000
 
2020-08-20 10:32:11 AM  
23 votes:

ox45tallboy: NeedlesslyCanadian: Trump 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 deputy campaign manager Rick Gates: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort: Convicted felon
Trump's first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump friend and 2016 campaign agent Roger Stone: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign "chief executive" and former Trump White House Strategist Steve Bannon: Arrested


You guys, I'm starting to think this "Trump" fellow may not be on the up and up.

I think Kellyanne is the only high-level campaign official from 2016 not yet indicted or convicted.


Only because the Hatch act is supposed to be enforced by the executive branch. Kelly of green gabble has violated the law multiple times.
 
2020-08-20 10:41:48 AM  
22 votes:

gilgigamesh: eurotrader: A 103 page order that basically says Trump's arguments have no merit at all and dismissed with prejudice and no leave to amend.

Wow. That's extraordinary.

For you non-law talking guy types, it is customary to give a litigant a chance to amend his pleadings to state a cause of action.  If the order specifically excludes that right, the judge is effectively saying Trump's argument was so flawed and baseless it is all but sanctionable.


If you read the order, if it had been anyone besides the sitting president there would have been sanctions. It is a brutal and well documented order.
 
2020-08-20 10:24:09 AM  
22 votes:

Wrongo: We really got him this time, right? Right?


Yes, if we can vote him out. Otherwise, no.
 
2020-08-20 11:09:52 AM  
17 votes:

jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020


Now there may be sanctions against Trump's attorneys for filing a meritless appeal.
 
2020-08-20 10:40:25 AM  
16 votes:

gilgigamesh: eurotrader: A 103 page order that basically says Trump's arguments have no merit at all and dismissed with prejudice and no leave to amend.

Wow. That's extraordinary.

For you non-law talking guy types, it is customary to give a litigant a chance to amend his pleadings to state a cause of action.  If the order specifically excludes that right, the judge is effectively saying Trump's argument was so flawed and baseless it is all but sanctionable.


It's like one step above the judge saying "GTFO of here with that shiat!"
 
2020-08-20 10:39:02 AM  
16 votes:

40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?


Lol Trump's not attending Biden's inauguration. He'll be too busy shiatting in the drawers of the resolute desk and pouring concrete mix in the toilets.
 
2020-08-20 10:50:06 AM  
15 votes:

PiperArrow: NeedlesslyCanadian: Trump 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 deputy campaign manager Rick Gates: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort: Convicted felon
Trump's first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump friend and 2016 campaign agent Roger Stone: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign "chief executive" and former Trump White House Strategist Steve Bannon: Arrested


You guys, I'm starting to think this "Trump" fellow may not be on the up and up.

If I understand correctly, Flynn has entered a guilty plea, but has not yet been found guilty as the charges were withdrawn before the plea was accepted. Don't get me wrong, he's a traitorous piece of shiat, but not yet a convicted felon. Admitted felon, yes; convicted, no.


I thought the plea was entered and accepted and the only thing left was the sentencing.  Then, Barr tried to get the charges dropped
 
2020-08-20 11:30:54 AM  
14 votes:

jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020


There must be some seriously bad shiat in there
 
2020-08-20 10:39:17 AM  
14 votes:

Northern: Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.

Just to be clear these are state charges.  So Barr and Trump have limited options.  #45 can't pardon himself in this case.  Same thing for the pending fraud charges against Bannon, and Trumpy isn't exactly friends with Governor Cuomo.


Bannon's charges are federal.  These are state
 
2020-08-20 10:27:35 AM  
14 votes:

40 degree day: Wrongo: We really got him this time, right? Right?

Yes, if we can vote him out. Otherwise, no.


Only if the current slate of domestic and international election fraud isn't successfully, thoroughly, overwhelmingly, and quickly challenged in the courts, without the GOP ringers in judgeships.

They'll do illegal stuff, ensure it's too late to fix it, and claim victory/accuse the Dems of fraud, and hope to keep power in the chaos.
 
2020-08-20 10:24:05 AM  
13 votes:

Wrongo: We really got him this time, right? Right?


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2020-08-20 11:37:19 AM  
12 votes:

OptionC: There must be some seriously bad shiat in there


Tax fraud, insurance fraud, money laundering, and his net worth is a tiny fraction of what he claims.  Why else would he grift the government on a daily basis with items that personally line his and his company's pockets?
 
2020-08-20 10:53:45 AM  
12 votes:

sdd2000: somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?

I don't know about the GOP, but my liver will need to surrender!


Or, better yet (since Vance likely won't want to open the can of worms of whether states can indict a sitting president for crimes), Trump's adult children, his company, his fortune, everyone around him, could all get indicted and seized even without an indictment on Individual-1
 
2020-08-20 10:30:26 AM  
12 votes:

NeedlesslyCanadian: Trump 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 deputy campaign manager Rick Gates: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort: Convicted felon
Trump's first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump friend and 2016 campaign agent Roger Stone: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign "chief executive" and former Trump White House Strategist Steve Bannon: Arrested


You guys, I'm starting to think this "Trump" fellow may not be on the up and up.


I think Kellyanne is the only high-level campaign official from 2016 not yet indicted or convicted.
 
2020-08-20 10:38:10 AM  
10 votes:
Too bad they didn't wait until next week to suck the air out of the RNC.
 
2020-08-20 10:28:00 AM  
10 votes:
Unfortunately, we the viewing public ain't going to see any of the juicy details.

But a State impaneled grand jury will.

/I'mOKwiththis.jpg
 
2020-08-20 10:24:43 AM  
10 votes:
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2020-08-20 11:34:36 AM  
9 votes:

Someone Else's Alt: robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.

Florida is pretty good about protecting your primary residence from bankruptcy, homesteaded property. As far as I know Trump does not have a homesteaded property in Florida, and as has been widely reported, is calling Mar-a-Lago his "residence" in violation of the zoning use of the property and a development agreement with the city there.


Using it as his official residence for voting purposes is then, by definition, fraud.
 
2020-08-20 10:51:17 AM  
9 votes:

OldRod: PiperArrow: NeedlesslyCanadian: Trump 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 deputy campaign manager Rick Gates: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort: Convicted felon
Trump's first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump friend and 2016 campaign agent Roger Stone: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign "chief executive" and former Trump White House Strategist Steve Bannon: Arrested


You guys, I'm starting to think this "Trump" fellow may not be on the up and up.

If I understand correctly, Flynn has entered a guilty plea, but has not yet been found guilty as the charges were withdrawn before the plea was accepted. Don't get me wrong, he's a traitorous piece of shiat, but not yet a convicted felon. Admitted felon, yes; convicted, no.

I thought the plea was entered and accepted and the only thing left was the sentencing.  Then, Barr tried to get the charges dropped


This is correct
 
2020-08-20 10:27:46 AM  
9 votes:

40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?


12:00:01 PM EST on January 20, 2021.  Or, literally the second after his term ends.
 
2020-08-20 10:23:18 AM  
9 votes:
I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?
 
2020-08-20 11:34:33 AM  
8 votes:

OptionC: jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020

There must be some seriously bad shiat in there


Yep. I can smell the panic from here.
 
2020-08-20 11:09:27 AM  
8 votes:

somedude210: sdd2000: somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?

I don't know about the GOP, but my liver will need to surrender!

Or, better yet (since Vance likely won't want to open the can of worms of whether states can indict a sitting president for crimes), Trump's adult children, his company, his fortune, everyone around him, could all get indicted and seized even without an indictment on Individual-1


I just had an image of all of Trump*'s finances going, all his businesses shut down, all his family and friends indicted and arrested....leaving him with nothing. Poor and alone, homeless, on the streets. In prison he'd get food and healthcare.

It made me feel good 😊
 
2020-08-20 10:55:35 AM  
8 votes:

joyride75: Is it my birthday already?!


Mine IS today. Fifty-five is off to a great start!
 
2020-08-20 10:49:14 AM  
7 votes:

somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?


I don't know about the GOP, but my liver will need to surrender!
 
2020-08-20 10:30:48 AM  
7 votes:
"but sent the case back down to the lower courts so that Trump's lawyers could continue to fight the subpoena. "

Wouldn't get too excited now...
 
2020-08-20 10:30:01 AM  
7 votes:

Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.


Trump really only feels it is "regular business" if Trump gets to "wet his beak on the grift".
 
2020-08-20 11:45:08 AM  
6 votes:
This has been a boneriffic morning.  Highly recommend.
 
2020-08-20 11:27:09 AM  
6 votes:

robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.


Florida is pretty good about protecting your primary residence from bankruptcy, homesteaded property. As far as I know Trump does not have a homesteaded property in Florida, and as has been widely reported, is calling Mar-a-Lago his "residence" in violation of the zoning use of the property and a development agreement with the city there.
 
2020-08-20 11:20:47 AM  
6 votes:
Any other Farkers hoping the Judge issues an order calling Trump's attorneys actions dilatory for the appeal?
 
2020-08-20 11:07:33 AM  
6 votes:
That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020
 
2020-08-20 10:41:24 AM  
6 votes:

sdd2000: Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.

Trump really only feels it is "regular business" if Trump gets to "wet his beak on the grift".


Nah there's a lot of grifters in his inner circle that he doesn't get a piece of. Hell some of them like Parscale grift off of Trump. I think it's one of those things where he probably assumes you're a snitch if you aren't at least committing some small crime.
 
2020-08-20 10:35:09 AM  
6 votes:
Neat.

I can't wait for them to be leaked out at 6pm EST on Friday.
 
2020-08-20 10:21:41 AM  
6 votes:
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2020-08-20 11:41:17 AM  
5 votes:

Circusdog320: You'd think the president would have better lawyers. The "it's not fair, it's a plot, he's the president" defense just doesn't seem well thought out.


A smart person would choose real law talkin guys.  This guy chooses boot lickers above all other talent.
He's not even trying to be the President, he just enjoys getting to name a place and time and have Lamestream MSM media cover his lunatic rants.
 
2020-08-20 11:17:23 AM  
5 votes:

somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?


Not a goddamn thing.

As long as Trump remains popular with Republican voters - and at this point, nothing is stopping that - the GOP won't try to do anything to remove him. Not only would it doom whatever Republican nominee they installed, it would also imperil lots of otherwise certain Republican Congressional winners when many disillusioned Trump supporters either skip the election or vote write-ins because they hate what the GOP did to Trump.

He told us this: if he shoots somebody on 5th Avenue, he won't lose any supporters.  And sadly, he's right.
 
2020-08-20 10:51:26 AM  
5 votes:

Northern: Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.

Just to be clear these are state charges.  So Barr and Trump have limited options.  #45 can't pardon himself in this case.  Same thing for the pending fraud charges against Bannon, and Trumpy isn't exactly friends with Governor Cuomo.


The Bannon charges are federal charges. The indictment is here https://www.axios.com/steve-bannon-ch​a​rged-fraud-199c43c1-2e75-4535-8eb0-d96​558c9f777.html
 
2020-08-20 10:48:09 AM  
5 votes:

Northern: Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.

Just to be clear these are state charges.  So Barr and Trump have limited options.  #45 can't pardon himself in this case.  Same thing for the pending fraud charges against Bannon, and Trumpy isn't exactly friends with Governor Cuomo.


Nope, Bannon's charges are through the federal court. Check who the acting US Attorney on the documents reports to.
 
2020-08-20 10:47:46 AM  
5 votes:

gilgigamesh: eurotrader: A 103 page order that basically says Trump's arguments have no merit at all and dismissed with prejudice and no leave to amend.

Wow. That's extraordinary.

For you non-law talking guy types, it is customary to give a litigant a chance to amend his pleadings to state a cause of action.  If the order specifically excludes that right, the judge is effectively saying Trump's argument was so flawed and baseless it is all but sanctionable.


Wasn't that completely expected? SCOTUS said as much last month and cleared the lower court to do the same. This is just the formalization of that, no?

The question is, is this finally the last hurdle? Will Vance get the records immediately?
 
2020-08-20 10:44:32 AM  
5 votes:
I love it. Especially later in the summer.
 
2020-08-20 10:41:51 AM  
5 votes:
Trump is going to desperately try to stay in power so he can command his minions to wage war on this.
 
2020-08-20 10:40:40 AM  
5 votes:

raerae1980: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

Shiat son, i do too. 😏


I'm pretty sure there's a tsunami warning for the greater LA area for the next 12 hours.

/Surfs up!
//Let's ride the wave!
///Phrasing!
 
2020-08-20 10:37:13 AM  
5 votes:

Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.


Just to be clear these are state charges.  So Barr and Trump have limited options.  #45 can't pardon himself in this case.  Same thing for the pending fraud charges against Bannon, and Trumpy isn't exactly friends with Governor Cuomo.
 
2020-08-20 12:06:46 PM  
4 votes:

somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?


They will lie about it
 
2020-08-20 11:50:16 AM  
4 votes:

jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020


Man, he must really doesn't want anyone to know what's going on. It's almost like there's evidence in there that he's guilty or something.
 
2020-08-20 11:26:26 AM  
4 votes:
The way today is playing out, it feels like maybe somebody else watched President Obama last night.
 
2020-08-20 11:11:36 AM  
4 votes:
It seems that being a douche bag to everybody is coming back to haunt one Donnie J. Trump.
 
2020-08-20 10:55:01 AM  
4 votes:
I hope the White House plumbers are approved for over time.  The amount of Trump rage tweet floaters clogging this up will be unprecedented.

/ P.S. the Trump Rage Tweet Floaters is the name of my AC/DC banjo cover band.
 
2020-08-20 10:47:21 AM  
4 votes:

sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.


Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?
 
2020-08-20 10:46:29 AM  
4 votes:
The WH this morning
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2020-08-20 10:43:38 AM  
4 votes:
If the news keeps piling up like this, Trump might pull a Yanukovych......
 
2020-08-20 10:42:53 AM  
4 votes:
This is relevant to my interests. Keep it coming through November!
 
2020-08-20 10:38:45 AM  
4 votes:
I'm sure Trump's anti-Biden event today will be calm and reasoned in response to this morning's news.
 
2020-08-20 10:20:51 AM  
4 votes:
Is your "go bag" ready Mr President?
 
2020-08-20 1:31:54 PM  
3 votes:

Cortez the Killer: BMulligan: OldRod: jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020

OK, I admit I'm not a law-speaker... but this case was dismissed with prejudice, right?  How can they appeal this?

A dismissal is an appealable final order. If the court of appeals finds that the dismissal was erroneous as a matter of law it will be reversed and the dismissal withdrawn. A party gets one appeal of right to any final order.

So basically, it will be forever until the returns actually hit the hands of someone that can do something. That's what I'm hearing.


No. Given the procedural posture of this case, I would expect the court of appeals to dismiss the appeal promptly, and maybe even deny a request for a stay during the tendency of the appeal if they're feeling extra grumpy.
 
2020-08-20 1:09:41 PM  
3 votes:

robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.


That's why New York's next step would be to bring an action based on a fraudulent claim of a change of residence. In fact, he has taken no legally recognizable step toward actually changing his residence aside from Hereby Declaring such. He has no legal residential address there, his businesses are not substantially centered there, and based on the available evidence a reasonable observer might conclude that his so-called change of residence is most likely a ruse to avoid paying New York state taxes.

And historically, New York has been quite willing to seek civil and/or criminal penalties where available in such cases.
 
2020-08-20 1:09:02 PM  
3 votes:
This stuff is what makes him sweat his pumpkin spice makeup off at night.
His current title and office may be the only think keeping him out of prison right now, and he is scared.
Had he decided to stay under his rock all this would be just another page 3 story in the NYT.
Now it's front page, and all that goes with it.


GOOD.
 
2020-08-20 12:37:44 PM  
3 votes:

whidbey: Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.


With an outside chance of civil war, why wouldn't he be farking overDeJoyed?
 
2020-08-20 12:02:20 PM  
3 votes:

somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?


Claim it's fake and political and a clear mandate to rein in state judicial powers (Blue states of course).
 
2020-08-20 11:55:00 AM  
3 votes:

weddingsinger: Public Call Box: Unfortunately, we the viewing public ain't going to see any of the juicy details.

But a State impaneled grand jury will.

/I'mOKwiththis.jpg

We already know one line of details.

Over decades, Fred Trump illegally paid his children through fake invoices for upkeep or supplies for rental units.

As a side bonus, this allowed them to raise rents on tenants by showing the Housing Authority their "high" costs.

For Donald alone this is estimated to be close to $500,000,000


Question in back: WHY THE FARK DID THEY WAIT SO GODDAMN LONG? I mean, jeeze, when did Daddy Slum Lord die anyway?  Had this been done decades ago, +170K would still be alive and this country NOT in thrall to Putin and Repuglicans imposing FASCISM.
 
2020-08-20 11:20:01 AM  
3 votes:
It's timely that I wrote this last week
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2020-08-20 11:19:23 AM  
3 votes:

Russell_Secord: Let's hope we see more August Surprises and September Surprises and October Surprises like this.


"Well, Steve Bannon was supposed to give a speech at this time, but he, uh, well lets just say he couldn't make it tonight."
 
2020-08-20 11:13:18 AM  
3 votes:

mrsjdmcd: joyride75: Is it my birthday already?!

Mine IS today. Fifty-five is off to a great start!


Mine was two days ago. Between this and the Banon thing, I'm thinking the universe is giving me a late birthday present.

/Happy Birthday
//Enjoy all the AARP mail coming your way
///But senior discount menu at IHOP, so good with the bad.
 
2020-08-20 11:07:59 AM  
3 votes:
Jeez, finally! It only took three and a half years.
 
2020-08-20 10:49:46 AM  
3 votes:

OldRod: Northern: Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.

Just to be clear these are state charges.  So Barr and Trump have limited options.  #45 can't pardon himself in this case.  Same thing for the pending fraud charges against Bannon, and Trumpy isn't exactly friends with Governor Cuomo.

Bannon's charges are federal.  These are state


Aah,
I missed that.  In that case Bannon is in no danger.  I am surprised the federal prosecutor even bothered, Barr will show him/her the door shortly.
 
2020-08-20 10:47:12 AM  
3 votes:

NeedlesslyCanadian: Trump 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 deputy campaign manager Rick Gates: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort: Convicted felon
Trump's first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump friend and 2016 campaign agent Roger Stone: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign "chief executive" and former Trump White House Strategist Steve Bannon: Arrested


You guys, I'm starting to think this "Trump" fellow may not be on the up and up.


If I understand correctly, Flynn has entered a guilty plea, but has not yet been found guilty as the charges were withdrawn before the plea was accepted. Don't get me wrong, he's a traitorous piece of shiat, but not yet a convicted felon. Admitted felon, yes; convicted, no.
 
2020-08-20 10:38:00 AM  
3 votes:
This means something big is about to drop.  I'm thinking Friday.
 
2020-08-20 10:36:49 AM  
3 votes:
The Crazy has been turned up to 11!

Those nuke codes are looking pretty appealing to Trump now...I wonder which blue state he's gonna bomb first???
 
2020-08-20 10:22:48 AM  
3 votes:
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2020-08-20 2:51:45 PM  
2 votes:

ox45tallboy: NeedlesslyCanadian: Trump 2016 campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 deputy campaign manager Rick Gates: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort: Convicted felon
Trump's first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen: Convicted felon
Longtime Trump friend and 2016 campaign agent Roger Stone: Convicted felon
Trump 2016 campaign "chief executive" and former Trump White House Strategist Steve Bannon: Arrested


You guys, I'm starting to think this "Trump" fellow may not be on the up and up.

I think Kellyanne is the only high-level campaign official from 2016 not yet indicted or convicted.


I keep telling people that she's died 25 times already.  You cannot permanently destroy the lich without ALSO destroying the phylactery.  She probably also has a goddamn Dorian Grey painting hidden somewhere that looks like the Toxic Avenger by now.
 
2020-08-20 1:34:02 PM  
2 votes:

TWX: BMulligan: To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.

You sure about that?  Doesn't normally such terminology only get applied towards the parties whose claims are denied?


What? I don't understand your question. Simply put, a dismissal without prejudice gives the prosecutor leave to refile, and a dismissal with prejudice does not allow the prosecutor to refile unless and until a higher court says otherwise.
 
2020-08-20 1:15:37 PM  
2 votes:

OldRod: jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020

OK, I admit I'm not a law-speaker... but this case was dismissed with prejudice, right?  How can they appeal this?


A dismissal is an appealable final order. If the court of appeals finds that the dismissal was erroneous as a matter of law it will be reversed and the dismissal withdrawn. A party gets one appeal of right to any final order.
 
2020-08-20 12:25:26 PM  
2 votes:

jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020


And it will be granted as justice shall NEVER be meted out on the rich and powerful. I suspect it's more likely Vance will be assassinated before he lays eyeballs on those returns.
 
2020-08-20 11:59:44 AM  
2 votes:

Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.


What's good for SDNY is good for the NYAG.
 
2020-08-20 11:18:47 AM  
2 votes:

BizarreMan: Too bad they didn't wait until next week to suck the air out of the RNC.


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Next week ain't over yet.
 
2020-08-20 11:12:48 AM  
2 votes:

Circusdog320: The Crazy has been turned up to 11!

Those nuke codes are looking pretty appealing to Trump now...I wonder which blue state he's gonna bomb first???



Well, the charges are from New York, so I assume he's going to nuke California.
 
2020-08-20 10:56:44 AM  
2 votes:
Let me know when said DA actually gets to see them.  Also, if he does, expect from legal action from Trump stating said DA cannot disclose anything from said tax returns.

The one good thing right now is that should ruffle old featherless boy's feathers a bit.  Tweet incoming in 4, 3, 2, 1
 
2020-08-20 10:44:18 AM  
2 votes:
Nice.  Wow, it's not even noon yet.  I think I may do some day drinking with the news on.
 
2020-08-20 10:31:14 AM  
2 votes:
How does that phrase go?
"Don't mess with Te...New York"?
 
2020-08-20 6:25:03 PM  
1 vote:

gilgigamesh: eurotrader: A 103 page order that basically says Trump's arguments have no merit at all and dismissed with prejudice and no leave to amend.

Wow. That's extraordinary.

For you non-law talking guy types, it is customary to give a litigant a chance to amend his pleadings to state a cause of action.  If the order specifically excludes that right, the judge is effectively saying Trump's argument was so flawed and baseless it is all but sanctionable.


I always appreciate when you spell legal shiat out early on in the thread - Thanks!
 
2020-08-20 5:12:07 PM  
1 vote:
I'd like to see him pay for what he's done, but at this point I really want him to just get the hell out of our office.
 
2020-08-20 2:40:13 PM  
1 vote:

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: weddingsinger: Public Call Box: Unfortunately, we the viewing public ain't going to see any of the juicy details.

But a State impaneled grand jury will.

/I'mOKwiththis.jpg

We already know one line of details.

Over decades, Fred Trump illegally paid his children through fake invoices for upkeep or supplies for rental units.

As a side bonus, this allowed them to raise rents on tenants by showing the Housing Authority their "high" costs.

For Donald alone this is estimated to be close to $500,000,000

Question in back: WHY THE FARK DID THEY WAIT SO GODDAMN LONG? I mean, jeeze, when did Daddy Slum Lord die anyway?  Had this been done decades ago, +170K would still be alive and this country NOT in thrall to Putin and Repuglicans imposing FASCISM.


This all flows from two things. Michael Cohen's testimony to Congress accusing Trump of bank and insurance fraud and the NYTimes deep dive into Trump's finances that came about because of Mary Trump giving her lawsuit records to the NYTimes. Yes, Cohen is a scumbag who deserved everything he got, but he actually did us a solid when he flipped on Trump. And Mary actually seems like a quality person. She didn't even know what was in those records until the Times reporters waded through them.
 
2020-08-20 2:31:50 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-08-20 2:00:55 PM  
1 vote:

BMulligan: BMulligan: TWX: BMulligan: To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.

You sure about that?  Doesn't normally such terminology only get applied towards the parties whose claims are denied?

What? I don't understand your question. Simply put, a dismissal without prejudice gives the prosecutor leave to refile, and a dismissal with prejudice does not allow the prosecutor to refile unless and until a higher court says otherwise.

Wait - now I understand my confusion. I've been following so many legal stories today that I've mixed this case up with the Bannon case in my mind ( the weed doesn't help). This, of course, is a civil matter - wherever I typed "prosecutor"read "plaintiff," and where I wrote "charges" read "cause of action." There. All fixed.


Are you referring to Trump's side as the plaintiff, or the defendant?

Because from my 1000' view, he's the defendant, and this legal action was in defense of the state as plaintiff's actions vis-a-vis his records.  For this very specific action he might have done the filing but it seems disingenuous to refer to him as a plaintiff when the overall strategy is one of defense.
 
2020-08-20 1:46:52 PM  
1 vote:

BMulligan: BMulligan: TWX: BMulligan: To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.

You sure about that?  Doesn't normally such terminology only get applied towards the parties whose claims are denied?

What? I don't understand your question. Simply put, a dismissal without prejudice gives the prosecutor leave to refile, and a dismissal with prejudice does not allow the prosecutor to refile unless and until a higher court says otherwise.

Wait - now I understand my confusion. I've been following so many legal stories today that I've mixed this case up with the Bannon case in my mind ( the weed doesn't help). This, of course, is a civil matter - wherever I typed "prosecutor"read "plaintiff," and where I wrote "charges" read "cause of action." There. All fixed.


I can't wait to see what argument they use to try to get a stay pending appeal. Especially since they generally need to make the motion first to the district court.
 
2020-08-20 1:38:59 PM  
1 vote:

BMulligan: TWX: BMulligan: To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.

You sure about that?  Doesn't normally such terminology only get applied towards the parties whose claims are denied?

What? I don't understand your question. Simply put, a dismissal without prejudice gives the prosecutor leave to refile, and a dismissal with prejudice does not allow the prosecutor to refile unless and until a higher court says otherwise.


Wait - now I understand my confusion. I've been following so many legal stories today that I've mixed this case up with the Bannon case in my mind ( the weed doesn't help). This, of course, is a civil matter - wherever I typed "prosecutor"read "plaintiff," and where I wrote "charges" read "cause of action." There. All fixed.
 
2020-08-20 1:17:19 PM  
1 vote:
To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.
 
2020-08-20 1:15:41 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: whidbey: Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.

With an outside chance of civil war, why wouldn't he be farking overDeJoyed?

Civil war in his country maybe.


Doubtful. Slavs seem to love a dictator's boot on the back of their neck.
 
2020-08-20 1:04:27 PM  
1 vote:

somedude210: ToastmasterGeneral: somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?

Not a goddamn thing.

As long as Trump remains popular with Republican voters - and at this point, nothing is stopping that - the GOP won't try to do anything to remove him. Not only would it doom whatever Republican nominee they installed, it would also imperil lots of otherwise certain Republican Congressional winners when many disillusioned Trump supporters either skip the election or vote write-ins because they hate what the GOP did to Trump.

He told us this: if he shoots somebody on 5th Avenue, he won't lose any supporters.  And sadly, he's right.

Yeah, but running an indicted mobster probably won't play as well in the sticks as you think


Indicted by whom?  The swamp?  Liberal DAs?  Just like the hoax impeachment, and every other scandal, Trump will be proven victorious.

No, I in NO way believe a word of that. But Trump's supporters do. If anything, I think an indictment makes them more supportive.  "SEE?!?  They ARE out to get Trump!!!"
 
2020-08-20 12:36:36 PM  
1 vote:

markie_farkie: Someone Else's Alt: robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.

Florida is pretty good about protecting your primary residence from bankruptcy, homesteaded property. As far as I know Trump does not have a homesteaded property in Florida, and as has been widely reported, is calling Mar-a-Lago his "residence" in violation of the zoning use of the property and a development agreement with the city there.

Using it as his official residence for voting purposes is then, by definition, fraud.


And it to the pile visible from space.
 
2020-08-20 12:03:19 PM  
1 vote:

Northern: OldRod: Northern: Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.

Just to be clear these are state charges.  So Barr and Trump have limited options.  #45 can't pardon himself in this case.  Same thing for the pending fraud charges against Bannon, and Trumpy isn't exactly friends with Governor Cuomo.

Bannon's charges are federal.  These are state

Aah,
I missed that.  In that case Bannon is in no danger.  I am surprised the federal prosecutor even bothered, Barr will show him/her the door shortly.


Betting fraud may be a state issue too.
 
2020-08-20 11:39:05 AM  
1 vote:
Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.
 
2020-08-20 11:31:28 AM  
1 vote:

eurotrader: Any other Farkers hoping the Judge issues an order calling Trump's attorneys actions dilatory for the appeal?


If that means what I think it means yers
 
2020-08-20 11:11:37 AM  
1 vote:

40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?


Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.
 
2020-08-20 11:04:14 AM  
1 vote:
What's next.  The Class of '16 Re-union of Electors College is marred by exposes of how much money a Russian influence peddler (GRU) can get into various electors hands, and their handlers, compared with how much it costs to buy Greenland.
 
2020-08-20 10:59:31 AM  
1 vote:

Rev.K: Let's try again.

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I think the first was more appropriate as he was not moving...
 
2020-08-20 10:55:24 AM  
1 vote:
If this goes the way we all hope it does, on the RaeRae scale, I'd guess it lands right on "Miller's Planet from Interstellar" level.

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2020-08-20 10:52:38 AM  
1 vote:

raerae1980: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

Shiat son, i do too. 😏



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2020-08-20 10:42:55 AM  
1 vote:
You'd think the president would have better lawyers. The "it's not fair, it's a plot, he's the president" defense just doesn't seem well thought out.
 
2020-08-20 10:23:06 AM  
1 vote:
We really got him this time, right? Right?
 
2020-08-20 10:20:32 AM  
1 vote:
Is it my birthday already?!
 
2020-08-20 10:20:19 AM  
1 vote:

BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"


Probably "biblical catastrophic flood"
 
2020-08-20 10:18:17 AM  
1 vote:
Massive compared to Donnie's hands, or compared to Enron?
 
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