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(Axios)   Everyone's high on the Bannon news right now, but a federal judge just threw out Trump's attempt to block Manhattan DA Vance from seeing his tax returns. You know, the guy investigating Trump for massive fraud   (axios.com) divider line
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2020-08-20 11:23:56 AM  

Boondock3806: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Lol Trump's not attending Biden's inauguration. He'll be too busy shiatting in the drawers of the resolute desk and pouring concrete mix in the toilets.


He will be spending even less time writing the now traditional letter to his successor, which will be two words, one of which will be an expletive.
 
2020-08-20 11:25:51 AM  

ImpendingCynic: gilgigamesh: eurotrader: A 103 page order that basically says Trump's arguments have no merit at all and dismissed with prejudice and no leave to amend.

Wow. That's extraordinary.

For you non-law talking guy types, it is customary to give a litigant a chance to amend his pleadings to state a cause of action.  If the order specifically excludes that right, the judge is effectively saying Trump's argument was so flawed and baseless it is all but sanctionable.

Wasn't that completely expected? SCOTUS said as much last month and cleared the lower court to do the same. This is just the formalization of that, no?

The question is, is this finally the last hurdle? Will Vance get the records immediately?


And will his office leak them?
 
2020-08-20 11:26:26 AM  
The way today is playing out, it feels like maybe somebody else watched President Obama last night.
 
2020-08-20 11:27:09 AM  

robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.


Florida is pretty good about protecting your primary residence from bankruptcy, homesteaded property. As far as I know Trump does not have a homesteaded property in Florida, and as has been widely reported, is calling Mar-a-Lago his "residence" in violation of the zoning use of the property and a development agreement with the city there.
 
2020-08-20 11:30:54 AM  

jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020


There must be some seriously bad shiat in there
 
2020-08-20 11:31:28 AM  

eurotrader: Any other Farkers hoping the Judge issues an order calling Trump's attorneys actions dilatory for the appeal?


If that means what I think it means yers
 
2020-08-20 11:34:33 AM  

OptionC: jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020

There must be some seriously bad shiat in there


Yep. I can smell the panic from here.
 
2020-08-20 11:34:36 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.

Florida is pretty good about protecting your primary residence from bankruptcy, homesteaded property. As far as I know Trump does not have a homesteaded property in Florida, and as has been widely reported, is calling Mar-a-Lago his "residence" in violation of the zoning use of the property and a development agreement with the city there.


Using it as his official residence for voting purposes is then, by definition, fraud.
 
2020-08-20 11:37:19 AM  

OptionC: There must be some seriously bad shiat in there


Tax fraud, insurance fraud, money laundering, and his net worth is a tiny fraction of what he claims.  Why else would he grift the government on a daily basis with items that personally line his and his company's pockets?
 
2020-08-20 11:39:05 AM  
Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.
 
2020-08-20 11:41:17 AM  

Circusdog320: You'd think the president would have better lawyers. The "it's not fair, it's a plot, he's the president" defense just doesn't seem well thought out.


A smart person would choose real law talkin guys.  This guy chooses boot lickers above all other talent.
He's not even trying to be the President, he just enjoys getting to name a place and time and have Lamestream MSM media cover his lunatic rants.
 
2020-08-20 11:45:08 AM  
This has been a boneriffic morning.  Highly recommend.
 
2020-08-20 11:45:20 AM  

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Get a mop. Or 300.

And a few of those ShamWows too.
 
2020-08-20 11:50:16 AM  

jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020


Man, he must really doesn't want anyone to know what's going on. It's almost like there's evidence in there that he's guilty or something.
 
2020-08-20 11:50:42 AM  
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2020-08-20 11:51:20 AM  
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2020-08-20 11:55:00 AM  

weddingsinger: Public Call Box: Unfortunately, we the viewing public ain't going to see any of the juicy details.

But a State impaneled grand jury will.

/I'mOKwiththis.jpg

We already know one line of details.

Over decades, Fred Trump illegally paid his children through fake invoices for upkeep or supplies for rental units.

As a side bonus, this allowed them to raise rents on tenants by showing the Housing Authority their "high" costs.

For Donald alone this is estimated to be close to $500,000,000


Question in back: WHY THE FARK DID THEY WAIT SO GODDAMN LONG? I mean, jeeze, when did Daddy Slum Lord die anyway?  Had this been done decades ago, +170K would still be alive and this country NOT in thrall to Putin and Repuglicans imposing FASCISM.
 
2020-08-20 11:56:48 AM  
Dont forget the time Steve Bannon tried to scam Ice Cube's basketball league with his buddy from Qatar

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p​o​litics/wp/2018/05/16/the-ice-cube-stev​e-bannon-qatar-allegations-explained/
 
2020-08-20 11:59:44 AM  

Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.


What's good for SDNY is good for the NYAG.
 
2020-08-20 12:02:20 PM  

somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?


Claim it's fake and political and a clear mandate to rein in state judicial powers (Blue states of course).
 
2020-08-20 12:03:19 PM  

Northern: OldRod: Northern: Lumbar Puncture: Trump can find a way to stall for 75 more days, and either the DOJ will make SDNY drop the Bannon charges or keep replacing people until they get someone who will, or he'll get commuted or pardoned. If he was willing to do it for outright traitors Trump will do so for some minor grifting. That's just regular business to him.

Vote.

Just to be clear these are state charges.  So Barr and Trump have limited options.  #45 can't pardon himself in this case.  Same thing for the pending fraud charges against Bannon, and Trumpy isn't exactly friends with Governor Cuomo.

Bannon's charges are federal.  These are state

Aah,
I missed that.  In that case Bannon is in no danger.  I am surprised the federal prosecutor even bothered, Barr will show him/her the door shortly.


Betting fraud may be a state issue too.
 
2020-08-20 12:06:46 PM  

somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?


They will lie about it
 
2020-08-20 12:22:09 PM  

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Sploooooosssshhh was the sound I heard watching this.
 
2020-08-20 12:25:26 PM  

jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020


And it will be granted as justice shall NEVER be meted out on the rich and powerful. I suspect it's more likely Vance will be assassinated before he lays eyeballs on those returns.
 
2020-08-20 12:33:55 PM  

markie_farkie: OptionC: There must be some seriously bad shiat in there

Tax fraud, insurance fraud, money laundering, and his net worth is a tiny fraction of what he claims.  Why else would he grift the government on a daily basis with items that personally line his and his company's pockets?


off topic. If you want to give your drone something  to look at NetFlix Reed Hasting is building this 2100 acre retreat for teachers by Bailey just off 285. I don't know what kind of range you have, mine limits out at 50km
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2020-08-20 12:36:36 PM  

markie_farkie: Someone Else's Alt: robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.

Florida is pretty good about protecting your primary residence from bankruptcy, homesteaded property. As far as I know Trump does not have a homesteaded property in Florida, and as has been widely reported, is calling Mar-a-Lago his "residence" in violation of the zoning use of the property and a development agreement with the city there.

Using it as his official residence for voting purposes is then, by definition, fraud.


And it to the pile visible from space.
 
2020-08-20 12:37:44 PM  

whidbey: Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.


With an outside chance of civil war, why wouldn't he be farking overDeJoyed?
 
2020-08-20 12:54:42 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?

Not a goddamn thing.

As long as Trump remains popular with Republican voters - and at this point, nothing is stopping that - the GOP won't try to do anything to remove him. Not only would it doom whatever Republican nominee they installed, it would also imperil lots of otherwise certain Republican Congressional winners when many disillusioned Trump supporters either skip the election or vote write-ins because they hate what the GOP did to Trump.

He told us this: if he shoots somebody on 5th Avenue, he won't lose any supporters.  And sadly, he's right.


Yeah, but running an indicted mobster probably won't play as well in the sticks as you think
 
2020-08-20 12:55:22 PM  

OldRod: gilgigamesh: eurotrader: A 103 page order that basically says Trump's arguments have no merit at all and dismissed with prejudice and no leave to amend.

Wow. That's extraordinary.

For you non-law talking guy types, it is customary to give a litigant a chance to amend his pleadings to state a cause of action.  If the order specifically excludes that right, the judge is effectively saying Trump's argument was so flawed and baseless it is all but sanctionable.

It's like one step above the judge saying "GTFO of here with that shiat!"


No. It is exactly "GTFO of here with that shiat!" It's one step above imposing personal financial sanctions on the attorneys who signed the pleadings.
 
2020-08-20 12:58:19 PM  

jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020


OK, I admit I'm not a law-speaker... but this case was dismissed with prejudice, right?  How can they appeal this?
 
2020-08-20 1:02:33 PM  

The Perineum Falcon: Let me know when said DA actually gets to see them.  Also, if he does, expect from legal action from Trump stating said DA cannot disclose anything from said tax returns.

The one good thing right now is that should ruffle old featherless boy's feathers a bit.  Tweet incoming in 4, 3, 2, 1


It's Grand Jury material. Of course it can't be publicly disclosed. That's always the case.
 
2020-08-20 1:04:27 PM  

somedude210: ToastmasterGeneral: somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?

Not a goddamn thing.

As long as Trump remains popular with Republican voters - and at this point, nothing is stopping that - the GOP won't try to do anything to remove him. Not only would it doom whatever Republican nominee they installed, it would also imperil lots of otherwise certain Republican Congressional winners when many disillusioned Trump supporters either skip the election or vote write-ins because they hate what the GOP did to Trump.

He told us this: if he shoots somebody on 5th Avenue, he won't lose any supporters.  And sadly, he's right.

Yeah, but running an indicted mobster probably won't play as well in the sticks as you think


Indicted by whom?  The swamp?  Liberal DAs?  Just like the hoax impeachment, and every other scandal, Trump will be proven victorious.

No, I in NO way believe a word of that. But Trump's supporters do. If anything, I think an indictment makes them more supportive.  "SEE?!?  They ARE out to get Trump!!!"
 
2020-08-20 1:08:08 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: whidbey: Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.

With an outside chance of civil war, why wouldn't he be farking overDeJoyed?


Civil war in his country maybe.
 
2020-08-20 1:09:02 PM  
This stuff is what makes him sweat his pumpkin spice makeup off at night.
His current title and office may be the only think keeping him out of prison right now, and he is scared.
Had he decided to stay under his rock all this would be just another page 3 story in the NYT.
Now it's front page, and all that goes with it.


GOOD.
 
2020-08-20 1:09:41 PM  

robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.


That's why New York's next step would be to bring an action based on a fraudulent claim of a change of residence. In fact, he has taken no legally recognizable step toward actually changing his residence aside from Hereby Declaring such. He has no legal residential address there, his businesses are not substantially centered there, and based on the available evidence a reasonable observer might conclude that his so-called change of residence is most likely a ruse to avoid paying New York state taxes.

And historically, New York has been quite willing to seek civil and/or criminal penalties where available in such cases.
 
2020-08-20 1:15:37 PM  

OldRod: jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020

OK, I admit I'm not a law-speaker... but this case was dismissed with prejudice, right?  How can they appeal this?


A dismissal is an appealable final order. If the court of appeals finds that the dismissal was erroneous as a matter of law it will be reversed and the dismissal withdrawn. A party gets one appeal of right to any final order.
 
2020-08-20 1:15:41 PM  

whidbey: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: whidbey: Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.

With an outside chance of civil war, why wouldn't he be farking overDeJoyed?

Civil war in his country maybe.


Doubtful. Slavs seem to love a dictator's boot on the back of their neck.
 
2020-08-20 1:16:34 PM  
*phew* I need a cigarette after that.

/Was it good for you, too?
 
2020-08-20 1:17:19 PM  
To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.
 
2020-08-20 1:26:34 PM  

BMulligan: OldRod: jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020

OK, I admit I'm not a law-speaker... but this case was dismissed with prejudice, right?  How can they appeal this?

A dismissal is an appealable final order. If the court of appeals finds that the dismissal was erroneous as a matter of law it will be reversed and the dismissal withdrawn. A party gets one appeal of right to any final order.


So basically, it will be forever until the returns actually hit the hands of someone that can do something. That's what I'm hearing.
 
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2020-08-20 1:27:43 PM  

BMulligan: To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.


You sure about that?  Doesn't normally such terminology only get applied towards the parties whose claims are denied?
 
2020-08-20 1:28:12 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: whidbey: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: whidbey: Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.

With an outside chance of civil war, why wouldn't he be farking overDeJoyed?

Civil war in his country maybe.

Doubtful. Slavs seem to love a dictator's boot on the back of their neck.


I'd love to see that stereotype blown out, actually.
 
2020-08-20 1:31:54 PM  

Cortez the Killer: BMulligan: OldRod: jollyrancher82: That was quick
* DONALD TRUMP FILES EMERGENCY APPEAL TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT OF MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SUBPOENA SEEKING EIGHT YEARS OF HIS TAX RETURNS -- COURT RECORDS@Reuters

- Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 20, 2020

OK, I admit I'm not a law-speaker... but this case was dismissed with prejudice, right?  How can they appeal this?

A dismissal is an appealable final order. If the court of appeals finds that the dismissal was erroneous as a matter of law it will be reversed and the dismissal withdrawn. A party gets one appeal of right to any final order.

So basically, it will be forever until the returns actually hit the hands of someone that can do something. That's what I'm hearing.


No. Given the procedural posture of this case, I would expect the court of appeals to dismiss the appeal promptly, and maybe even deny a request for a stay during the tendency of the appeal if they're feeling extra grumpy.
 
2020-08-20 1:34:02 PM  

TWX: BMulligan: To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.

You sure about that?  Doesn't normally such terminology only get applied towards the parties whose claims are denied?


What? I don't understand your question. Simply put, a dismissal without prejudice gives the prosecutor leave to refile, and a dismissal with prejudice does not allow the prosecutor to refile unless and until a higher court says otherwise.
 
2020-08-20 1:38:13 PM  

markie_farkie: Someone Else's Alt: robbrie: 40 degree day: I guess the only question is whether they take Trump away from Biden's inauguration in handcuffs, or do we wait until the next day out of respect?

Trump's already said he wouldn't attend a Biden 2020 (actually Jan 2021) inauguration...surprising almost nobody.

Donald would have to be extradited from Florida to face charges in NY State courts. I'm sure they're willing to go that extra mile. Not really a shock that Donald changed his residency to Florida while still in the WH.

Florida also has generous laws protecting personal assets against civil lawsuits. Trump has a lot of those court cases, too.

Florida is pretty good about protecting your primary residence from bankruptcy, homesteaded property. As far as I know Trump does not have a homesteaded property in Florida, and as has been widely reported, is calling Mar-a-Lago his "residence" in violation of the zoning use of the property and a development agreement with the city there.

Using it as his official residence for voting purposes is then, by definition, fraud.


Yep.
 
2020-08-20 1:38:59 PM  

BMulligan: TWX: BMulligan: To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.

You sure about that?  Doesn't normally such terminology only get applied towards the parties whose claims are denied?

What? I don't understand your question. Simply put, a dismissal without prejudice gives the prosecutor leave to refile, and a dismissal with prejudice does not allow the prosecutor to refile unless and until a higher court says otherwise.


Wait - now I understand my confusion. I've been following so many legal stories today that I've mixed this case up with the Bannon case in my mind ( the weed doesn't help). This, of course, is a civil matter - wherever I typed "prosecutor"read "plaintiff," and where I wrote "charges" read "cause of action." There. All fixed.
 
2020-08-20 1:42:52 PM  

BMulligan: No. Given the procedural posture of this case, I would expect the court of appeals to dismiss the appeal promptly, and maybe even deny a request for a stay during the tendency of the appeal if they're feeling extra grumpy.


Stop it.  It's difficult to work with an erection.
 
2020-08-20 1:46:52 PM  

BMulligan: BMulligan: TWX: BMulligan: To clarify, the "with prejudice" part simply means that the prosecutor can't refile the charges unless the dismissal is reversed.

You sure about that?  Doesn't normally such terminology only get applied towards the parties whose claims are denied?

What? I don't understand your question. Simply put, a dismissal without prejudice gives the prosecutor leave to refile, and a dismissal with prejudice does not allow the prosecutor to refile unless and until a higher court says otherwise.

Wait - now I understand my confusion. I've been following so many legal stories today that I've mixed this case up with the Bannon case in my mind ( the weed doesn't help). This, of course, is a civil matter - wherever I typed "prosecutor"read "plaintiff," and where I wrote "charges" read "cause of action." There. All fixed.


I can't wait to see what argument they use to try to get a stay pending appeal. Especially since they generally need to make the motion first to the district court.
 
2020-08-20 1:47:27 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: somedude210: ToastmasterGeneral: somedude210: sdd2000: BenSaw2: I need to know where this is on the Rae Rae scale.

If the Manhattan DA is involved, is this indeed the coveted "state charges"

This is in relation to a state grand jury investigation in to possible various tax and business record state fraud  matters by not only Trump, but the Trump organization and I believe some family members.

Hey, question for all of you political farkers. What will the GOP do if Trump gets indicted shortly after he accepts the nomination next week?

Not a goddamn thing.

As long as Trump remains popular with Republican voters - and at this point, nothing is stopping that - the GOP won't try to do anything to remove him. Not only would it doom whatever Republican nominee they installed, it would also imperil lots of otherwise certain Republican Congressional winners when many disillusioned Trump supporters either skip the election or vote write-ins because they hate what the GOP did to Trump.

He told us this: if he shoots somebody on 5th Avenue, he won't lose any supporters.  And sadly, he's right.

Yeah, but running an indicted mobster probably won't play as well in the sticks as you think

Indicted by whom?  The swamp?  Liberal DAs?  Just like the hoax impeachment, and every other scandal, Trump will be proven victorious.

No, I in NO way believe a word of that. But Trump's supporters do. If anything, I think an indictment makes them more supportive.  "SEE?!?  They ARE out to get Trump!!!"


You can be the most supportive you can be, if you're only 38% of the voting public, it doesn't much matter how intense you scream
 
2020-08-20 1:55:59 PM  

whidbey: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: whidbey: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: whidbey: Trump's Russian Protection is ending.

Putin is not happy with the results.

With an outside chance of civil war, why wouldn't he be farking overDeJoyed?

Civil war in his country maybe.

Doubtful. Slavs seem to love a dictator's boot on the back of their neck.

I'd love to see that stereotype blown out, actually.


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