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2020-08-19 8:34:10 AM  
and subby hasn't ever done IT support or been in that sphere where once a particular brand/model is 'the one' that the teacher or support staff are going to learn and trouble shoot, that's it.  I mean this is the vast institutional field that in 2020 still insists that the extremely over-priced TI calculators are the only ones supported or allowed into exams, let's not forget.

We're both reaching heavily with those statements when its pretty obvious this young writer is actually a budding ad saleswomen who was contracted to create an advertorial for ChromeBooks, because with the new Android OS they're now even faster and deliver upto five times as much internet per charge.  Buy one now at Amazon.
 
2020-08-19 8:34:15 AM  
Or people who couldn't afford a computer in the first place. I guess if you're poor you don't get to attend school this year.
 
2020-08-19 9:54:07 AM  
There Aren't Enough Laptops, and That Could Spell Doom for Many Students

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2020-08-19 11:34:15 AM  
I be worried more about the availability of internet off campus for students more than computer hardware atm.
 
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2020-08-19 11:34:19 AM  
Yeah, subby, because throwing a random mix of hardware and operating systems into a non-technical population that you need to support works so well.
 
2020-08-19 11:37:51 AM  

UberDave: There Aren't Enough Laptops, and That Could Spell Doom for Many Students

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Meh. If your PC is powerful enough to run Doom, you should be able to use it to access the student portal.
 
2020-08-19 11:46:41 AM  

UberDave: There Aren't Enough Laptops, and That Could Spell Doom for Many Students

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2020-08-19 11:59:27 AM  

Merltech: I be worried more about the availability of internet off campus for students more than computer hardware atm.


Give this man a cookie.

This was a huge problem for us last Spring- and that was the professors, much less the students.  Internet connectivity in town is ok (Comcast cable), but get more than a few miles out of town and you're on DSL.   One of my guys couldn't get a stable Zoom stream with nothing else from his house. A few miles more and, well, good luck.  A hotspot might get you something, if cell service isn't marginal like it is back in the hills.

Our local HS has a huge problem with migrant workers- a lot of them have no internet access at all, so remote school is going to work swimmingly for them.
 
2020-08-19 12:06:12 PM  

Some Farking Lurker: UberDave: There Aren't Enough Laptops, and That Could Spell Doom for Many Students

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Meh. If your PC is powerful enough to run Doom, you should be able to use it to access the student portal.


Doom would run on a 386.  Doom is not a standard bearer.  Crysis.  That's a standard.
 
2020-08-19 12:13:23 PM  
Wow I never thought I'd see a fark headline with:

"What? the public school kids never heard of buying themselves a MacBook Pro?"
 
2020-08-19 12:13:45 PM  
As long as there's a nethack port for it, I'm fine with whatever.
 
2020-08-19 12:16:36 PM  

mjbok: Some Farking Lurker: UberDave: There Aren't Enough Laptops, and That Could Spell Doom for Many Students

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Meh. If your PC is powerful enough to run Doom, you should be able to use it to access the student portal.

Doom would run on a 386.  Doom is not a standard bearer.  Crysis.  That's a standard.


I don't think I ever tried Doom on a 386.  Wolfenstein maybe but not Doom.  It ran fine on the first Pentium....once you fixed your boot sector which was screwed as a result of installing a pirated copy.
 
2020-08-19 12:18:32 PM  
Well... We just ordered another 2000 chromebooks. That should bring our inventory to around 14,000. Epson says our next 1000 printers will come in 200 a week for the next 5-6 weeks. Jabra says our 10k headsets should arrive next month. YAY!

/Doing IT support for an online school.
/About to outgrow our warehouse.
/// Three slashies
 
2020-08-19 12:21:41 PM  

UberDave: mjbok: Some Farking Lurker: UberDave: There Aren't Enough Laptops, and That Could Spell Doom for Many Students

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Meh. If your PC is powerful enough to run Doom, you should be able to use it to access the student portal.

Doom would run on a 386.  Doom is not a standard bearer.  Crysis.  That's a standard.

I don't think I ever tried Doom on a 386.  Wolfenstein maybe but not Doom.  It ran fine on the first Pentium....once you fixed your boot sector which was screwed as a result of installing a pirated copy.


I remember the first time I tried doom on the then brand-spanking new 486-80Mhz.  It was so smooth compared to running it on the 386 I had been.
 
2020-08-19 12:29:29 PM  

PTP_Professor: Well... We just ordered another 2000 chromebooks. That should bring our inventory to around 14,000. Epson says our next 1000 printers will come in 200 a week for the next 5-6 weeks. Jabra says our 10k headsets should arrive next month. YAY!

/Doing IT support for an online school.
/About to outgrow our warehouse.
/// Three slashies


What state are you based in if you don't mind.  I used to work for a large online school a few years back.  I know it's not that one, but curious as to where yours is based out of.
 
2020-08-19 12:45:27 PM  
When school lunches may be the only reliable source of food for some students the lack of a ChromeBook sort of takes a back seat.
 
2020-08-19 12:54:34 PM  

BumpInTheNight: and subby hasn't ever done IT support or been in that sphere where once a particular brand/model is 'the one' that the teacher or support staff are going to learn and trouble shoot, that's it.  I mean this is the vast institutional field that in 2020 still insists that the extremely over-priced TI calculators are the only ones supported or allowed into exams, let's not forget.

We're both reaching heavily with those statements when its pretty obvious this young writer is actually a budding ad saleswomen who was contracted to create an advertorial for ChromeBooks, because with the new Android OS they're now even faster and deliver upto five times as much internet per charge.  Buy one now at Amazon.


It has NOTHING to do with IT. This article is about consumer Chromebooks that a school's IT guy will never even touch. It's like saying we're running out of cellphone's, while Apple is the only one that's have production problems.
 
2020-08-19 1:03:22 PM  

mjbok: PTP_Professor: Well... We just ordered another 2000 chromebooks. That should bring our inventory to around 14,000. Epson says our next 1000 printers will come in 200 a week for the next 5-6 weeks. Jabra says our 10k headsets should arrive next month. YAY!

/Doing IT support for an online school.
/About to outgrow our warehouse.
/// Three slashies

What state are you based in if you don't mind.  I used to work for a large online school a few years back.  I know it's not that one, but curious as to where yours is based out of.


Fark's favorite ass backward red state, Georgia. My county is the one that made the news for the high school student sharing pictures of the hallway and then getting suspended.
 
2020-08-19 1:08:24 PM  

PTP_Professor: Fark's favorite ass backward red state, Georgia. My county is the one that made the news for the high school student sharing pictures of the hallway and then getting suspended.


Thx.  The thing I've found funny in the whole scenario with distance learning is all of the schools that crapped on online schools are now seeing the challenges that are there and are dealing with them WAY WORSE than actual online schools have.

For example in my kids school if you had a worse grade second semester of last year (the semester that was nearly 100% from home) they gave you the grade you got the first semester.
 
2020-08-19 1:15:27 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: BumpInTheNight: and subby hasn't ever done IT support or been in that sphere where once a particular brand/model is 'the one' that the teacher or support staff are going to learn and trouble shoot, that's it.  I mean this is the vast institutional field that in 2020 still insists that the extremely over-priced TI calculators are the only ones supported or allowed into exams, let's not forget.

We're both reaching heavily with those statements when its pretty obvious this young writer is actually a budding ad saleswomen who was contracted to create an advertorial for ChromeBooks, because with the new Android OS they're now even faster and deliver upto five times as much internet per charge.  Buy one now at Amazon.

It has NOTHING to do with IT. This article is about consumer Chromebooks that a school's IT guy will never even touch. It's like saying we're running out of cellphone's, while Apple is the only one that's have production problems.


"Okay class, open your browser and go to site X"
"Whats a browser?  How do I open one?"
"Okay timmy, what flavour of laptop do you have?"
...
...

-never went any conversation a teacher will have with a student.

My point stands pretty firm and subby is ignorant of reality.
 
2020-08-19 1:26:28 PM  
Chromebooks are on back order due to the demand. None of my suppliers have them in stock. I can imagine this is a huge issue for a lot of schools, as Chromebooks are great for simplicity and security and are low cost.
 
2020-08-19 1:26:53 PM  

mjbok: PTP_Professor: Fark's favorite ass backward red state, Georgia. My county is the one that made the news for the high school student sharing pictures of the hallway and then getting suspended.

Thx.  The thing I've found funny in the whole scenario with distance learning is all of the schools that crapped on online schools are now seeing the challenges that are there and are dealing with them WAY WORSE than actual online schools have.

For example in my kids school if you had a worse grade second semester of last year (the semester that was nearly 100% from home) they gave you the grade you got the first semester.


The other thing about all the schools that are now having to go teach online is most of them have a fraction of the IT budget of an online school. Our local county has increased their budget, but cut IT spending.

https://www.paulding.k12.ga.us/cms/li​b​/GA01903603/Centricity/Domain/196/FY20​20%20Original%20GF%20Budget%20Summary.​pdf

Looking at that, I see $1.5 Million for Technology Specialist salaries, roughly $800,000 for software, $4.7 million for expendable computer equipment. Roughly $7.25 million for their IT budget. This is for a school system of around 28,000 students.  The online school we support initially contracted us for hardware support and helpdesk services for $14 million per year, and has since added to that an additional half million per year. Our enrollment numbers are between 10-15 thousand right now.
 
2020-08-19 1:38:47 PM  

BumpInTheNight: drjekel_mrhyde: BumpInTheNight: and subby hasn't ever done IT support or been in that sphere where once a particular brand/model is 'the one' that the teacher or support staff are going to learn and trouble shoot, that's it.  I mean this is the vast institutional field that in 2020 still insists that the extremely over-priced TI calculators are the only ones supported or allowed into exams, let's not forget.

We're both reaching heavily with those statements when its pretty obvious this young writer is actually a budding ad saleswomen who was contracted to create an advertorial for ChromeBooks, because with the new Android OS they're now even faster and deliver upto five times as much internet per charge.  Buy one now at Amazon.

It has NOTHING to do with IT. This article is about consumer Chromebooks that a school's IT guy will never even touch. It's like saying we're running out of cellphone's, while Apple is the only one that's have production problems.

"Okay class, open your browser and go to site X"
"Whats a browser?  How do I open one?"
"Okay timmy, what flavour of laptop do you have?"
...
...

-never went any conversation a teacher will have with a student.

My point stands pretty firm and subby is ignorant of reality.


lol, you think kids don't know how to open a browser?

It's more likely the kids would be giving tech support to the teacher.
 
2020-08-19 2:09:02 PM  

red5ish: When school lunches may be the only reliable source of food for some students the lack of a ChromeBook sort of takes a back seat.


Yeah, there's a whole layer of classism and privilege in the whole "should we open schools?" debate that's not even being talked about.

A friend of mine is a healthcare pro in a rural, low-income free clinic.  Among the many horrifying examples she shares from her day to day life was this one:

"So, I had a patient today who was 7 years old, with a single mom who is illiterate and working two under-the-table jobs to try to keep them alive.  His only reliable meals came from school.  While some schools are still giving away lunches, how is he supposed to get there if the bussing is stopped?  And exactly how the fark is he supposed to Zoom without a laptop... or internet access... or someone home to help... or reliable power?"

Helluva country we've built ourselves.  And that's just one very specific example from CA that fuels my outrage at shipping money to the welfa(R)e states for farking decades -- and not just "ungrateful welfa(R)e states" but "welfa(R)e states whose politicians and citizens relentlessly shiat on 'coastal elites' and 'San Francisco Values'... while they spend our farking money to make up for their own bad governance decisions."

If one's biggest complaint is "OMG, the schools need to open because I am so sick of having to take care of my kids and deal with their laptops and constantly having to make them lunch when there's [ Maury to watch / haircuts to get / work from home to do ]!", they should take a moment to appreciate how good they may actually have it, you know?
 
2020-08-19 3:14:09 PM  

BumpInTheNight: drjekel_mrhyde: BumpInTheNight: and subby hasn't ever done IT support or been in that sphere where once a particular brand/model is 'the one' that the teacher or support staff are going to learn and trouble shoot, that's it.  I mean this is the vast institutional field that in 2020 still insists that the extremely over-priced TI calculators are the only ones supported or allowed into exams, let's not forget.

We're both reaching heavily with those statements when its pretty obvious this young writer is actually a budding ad saleswomen who was contracted to create an advertorial for ChromeBooks, because with the new Android OS they're now even faster and deliver upto five times as much internet per charge.  Buy one now at Amazon.

It has NOTHING to do with IT. This article is about consumer Chromebooks that a school's IT guy will never even touch. It's like saying we're running out of cellphone's, while Apple is the only one that's have production problems.

"Okay class, open your browser and go to site X"
"Whats a browser?  How do I open one?"
"Okay timmy, what flavour of laptop do you have?"
...
...

-never went any conversation a teacher will have with a student.

My point stands pretty firm and subby is ignorant of reality.


I could tell a student how to open any browser on any platform just as fast as if everyone had the same OS. If the teacher can't handle that, maybe whoever ties their shoes can do it for them. It's easy as hell.  Which is what I told the teachers I had 20 years ago. They should have caught up by now.

You don't need to help the linux kid, he knows what's up.
 
2020-08-19 3:18:41 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: lol, you think kids don't know how to open a browser?

It's more likely the kids would be giving tech support to the teacher.


OldJames: I could tell a student how to open any browser on any platform just as fast as if everyone had the same OS. If the teacher can't handle that, maybe whoever ties their shoes can do it for them. It's easy as hell. Which is what I told the teachers I had 20 years ago. They should have caught up by now.

You don't need to help the linux kid, he knows what's up.


Guys, yes that was a pretty crappy anecdote I tried there.  But here's a better real-world scenario:  Never underestimate an educational institution's ability to paint itself into corners with proprietary software deals, like some android-only based testing software etc, or android-only spyware so they can watch the kids for uh, 'security reasons'.
 
2020-08-19 3:19:41 PM  
Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..
 
2020-08-19 3:48:52 PM  

Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..


I bought a Chromebook right around last Christmas.  I opened it, set it up, and then it say around doing nothing...until March.

Once the pandemic hit and I was working from home it became a great option for surfing/personal email, etc.  It also has become my bedroom browsing device.  It's limited, but it is quick and does what it does well for very little money.

//Typing on it now.
 
2020-08-19 3:57:36 PM  

Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..


Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.
 
2020-08-19 6:56:01 PM  

PTP_Professor: Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..

Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.


That's over buying for what they're needed for.  At that point you could get an i5 windows lappy with 8gb and an ssd
 
2020-08-19 7:05:17 PM  

mjbok: PTP_Professor: Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..

Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.

That's over buying for what they're needed for.  At that point you could get an i5 windows lappy with 8gb and an ssd


Hey, don't dis his budget!
 
2020-08-19 7:06:49 PM  

mjbok: PTP_Professor: Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..

Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.

That's over buying for what they're needed for.  At that point you could get an i5 windows lappy with 8gb and an ssd


Look at the system requirements for Jigsaw interactive, Canvas LMS, etc. Jigsaw requires that kind of power.
 
2020-08-19 7:08:59 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: lol, you think kids don't know how to open a browser?

It's more likely the kids would be giving tech support to the teacher.

OldJames: I could tell a student how to open any browser on any platform just as fast as if everyone had the same OS. If the teacher can't handle that, maybe whoever ties their shoes can do it for them. It's easy as hell. Which is what I told the teachers I had 20 years ago. They should have caught up by now.

You don't need to help the linux kid, he knows what's up.

Guys, yes that was a pretty crappy anecdote I tried there.  But here's a better real-world scenario:  Never underestimate an educational institution's ability to paint itself into corners with proprietary software deals, like some android-only based testing software etc, or android-only spyware so they can watch the kids for uh, 'security reasons'.


Ok, that I can see.
 
2020-08-19 7:23:06 PM  

PTP_Professor: mjbok: PTP_Professor: Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..

Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.

That's over buying for what they're needed for.  At that point you could get an i5 windows lappy with 8gb and an ssd

Look at the system requirements for Jigsaw interactive, Canvas LMS, etc. Jigsaw requires that kind of power.


Fellow Georgia IT guy here. We haven't had any problems with the few Canvas users we have In dual enrollment with $350ish chrome book machines with 4gb ram. The requirements didn't say anything more than a gig of ram, which was laughable. Not sure what plugins you might be using there.

The biggest problem is, as stated, lack of net. Our county is half rural and at least a third has no net. It's absurd. Whether counties do it like Chattanooga or Augusta, infrastructure needs to be there for everybody.

And as for the kids tutoring the teachers? Bwahahahahahaaaaaaa. The myth of the digital native is pernicious. Kids might know how to use TikTok, but they don't all understand how to close a tab
 
2020-08-19 7:34:42 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Or people who couldn't afford a computer in the first place. I guess if you're poor you don't get to attend school this year.


Chromebooks in for the win!
 
2020-08-19 7:51:04 PM  

millia: PTP_Professor: mjbok: PTP_Professor: Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..

Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.

That's over buying for what they're needed for.  At that point you could get an i5 windows lappy with 8gb and an ssd

Look at the system requirements for Jigsaw interactive, Canvas LMS, etc. Jigsaw requires that kind of power.

Fellow Georgia IT guy here. We haven't had any problems with the few Canvas users we have In dual enrollment with $350ish chrome book machines with 4gb ram. The requirements didn't say anything more than a gig of ram, which was laughable. Not sure what plugins you might be using there.

The biggest problem is, as stated, lack of net. Our county is half rural and at least a third has no net. It's absurd. Whether counties do it like Chattanooga or Augusta, infrastructure needs to be there for everybody.

And as for the kids tutoring the teachers? Bwahahahahahaaaaaaa. The myth of the digital native is pernicious. Kids might know how to use TikTok, but they don't all understand how to close a tab


Jigsaw Interactive wants a Google Octane score of 25000 or better. Good luck getting that without an i3. 80% of our devices don't reach a score of 20k and they do suffer in some applications.

For those not familiar with Jigsaw, it is a live lesson platform that streams both teacher and student audio and video. It includes group chat, private messaging, whiteboard space, document presentation, and teacher led video lessons all in a single window. It is resource heavy.

As far as internet access, the school ships hotspots to students who qualify, as well as subsidizes internet for low income students who can get internet access from traditional ISPs.

You are right about internet in our state. Try streaming on HughesNet. It sucks and remoting in to fix issues can mean going for a cup of coffee between mouse  clicks.
 
2020-08-19 9:01:20 PM  

PTP_Professor: mjbok: PTP_Professor: Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..

Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.

That's over buying for what they're needed for.  At that point you could get an i5 windows lappy with 8gb and an ssd

Look at the system requirements for Jigsaw interactive, Canvas LMS, etc. Jigsaw requires that kind of power.


Canvas:
Use a computer 5 years old or newer when possible.
2 GHz processor or faster.
1GB RAM or greater.
80 GB hard drive or larger.
Cable/DSL broadband connection or better.
1024×768 or greater resolution monitor.
Video card.
Sound card with speakers.

Jigsaw an i3 so you would be correct.

If that is true you'd get more bang for your buck with a real i3 laptop running windows.
 
2020-08-19 9:31:14 PM  

mjbok: PTP_Professor: mjbok: PTP_Professor: Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..

Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.

That's over buying for what they're needed for.  At that point you could get an i5 windows lappy with 8gb and an ssd

Look at the system requirements for Jigsaw interactive, Canvas LMS, etc. Jigsaw requires that kind of power.

Canvas:
Use a computer 5 years old or newer when possible.
2 GHz processor or faster.
1GB RAM or greater.
80 GB hard drive or larger.
Cable/DSL broadband connection or better.
1024×768 or greater resolution monitor.
Video card.
Sound card with speakers.

Jigsaw an i3 so you would be correct.

If that is true you'd get more bang for your buck with a real i3 laptop running windows.


Point me to an i3 or better 8GB ram and ssd windows laptop from a reliable brand with accidental damage coverage for 3 years for the price of one of these chromebooks and I might be interested
 
2020-08-19 10:51:56 PM  

PTP_Professor: mjbok: PTP_Professor: mjbok: PTP_Professor: Marcos P: Chromebook: 100-200$ each
Mac: 80,000,0000,0000,000,000$ each

Hmm..

Unfortunately, you are pretty far off on the Chromebook cost. For most systems in use by the schools, they need at least a Celeron, preferably an i3 or better processor, a least 4GB of RAM ( preferably 8GB) and at least 64GB of SSD storage. The Dell 5400s we are shipping our students now retail between $600-800 per device. Our actual cost per device is lower, but not below $500 per device. Chromebooks can retail for $1000 or more.

That's over buying for what they're needed for.  At that point you could get an i5 windows lappy with 8gb and an ssd

Look at the system requirements for Jigsaw interactive, Canvas LMS, etc. Jigsaw requires that kind of power.

Canvas:
Use a computer 5 years old or newer when possible.
2 GHz processor or faster.
1GB RAM or greater.
80 GB hard drive or larger.
Cable/DSL broadband connection or better.
1024×768 or greater resolution monitor.
Video card.
Sound card with speakers.

Jigsaw an i3 so you would be correct.

If that is true you'd get more bang for your buck with a real i3 laptop running windows.

Point me to an i3 or better 8GB ram and ssd windows laptop from a reliable brand with accidental damage coverage for 3 years for the price of one of these chromebooks and I might be interested


There's a Dell for $330 at BB right now with an i3, SSD and 8GB of RAM.   Another Dell, Lenovos and HPs under 500.  3 year accidental damage brings them about even to the prices for those Chromebooks and you get more for it.  I say this as someone that is using a Chromebook at this moment.  They're great, but once you get into steeper system reqs it doesn't make sense to stay in the Chromebook space.
 
2020-08-19 11:31:44 PM  

UberDave: mjbok: Some Farking Lurker: UberDave: There Aren't Enough Laptops, and That Could Spell Doom for Many Students

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Meh. If your PC is powerful enough to run Doom, you should be able to use it to access the student portal.

Doom would run on a 386.  Doom is not a standard bearer.  Crysis.  That's a standard.

I don't think I ever tried Doom on a 386.  Wolfenstein maybe but not Doom.  It ran fine on the first Pentium....once you fixed your boot sector which was screwed as a result of installing a pirated copy.


I had a playable port of Doom on my TI-82
 
2020-08-20 5:24:27 PM  

Stormneedle: As long as there's a nethack port for it, I'm fine with whatever.


Yay, other old geezer!  I started playing Nethack in the mid-80s, and other than Windows Solitaire it's probably the game I've played most (which tells you how much of a gamer I am.)  Doom wasn't my thing, but it did work well on the 486 (and wow, that guy had an 80 MHz one? Fastest we had was 66!), and the 386 I had had a weird graphics adapter that didn't have enough resolution to support it.
 
2020-08-20 8:11:52 PM  
Anyone who's school district is shelling out north of $500 for a Chromebook needs to start an investigation because someone's getting a kickback.

source: worked at a large community college in the IT dept. and watched it happen.
 
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