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2020-08-18 10:50:08 PM  
Why would this be a surprise?
 
2020-08-18 11:01:29 PM  
Then there are the EBT "food stamp" program which is federal. The TANF assistance is already state run, so Trump can't fark with that too much. So he is trying to hurt people however he can using the federal sources.

I fully expect millions to not get their money or their food stamp benefit this coming month.
 
2020-08-18 11:26:12 PM  

wearsmanyhats: Why would this be a surprise?


It would be in that the SSA really pushes you to get you to do direct deposit.

I've had people say the SS help line tells people they "must" have a bank account and direct deposit.

Saves SS costs but also will help most of their payees in this situation at least.
 
2020-08-18 11:27:19 PM  

wejash: wearsmanyhats: Why would this be a surprise?

It would be in that the SSA really pushes you to get you to do direct deposit.

I've had people say the SS help line tells people they "must" have a bank account and direct deposit.

Saves SS costs but also will help most of their payees in this situation at least.


There are half a million holdouts who may not even have a bank account. Or even ready access to a bank.
 
2020-08-19 12:51:52 AM  
So one out of every 70 or so recipients gets a check instead of a direct deposit. Shocking.
 
2020-08-19 1:56:05 AM  

wearsmanyhats: wejash: wearsmanyhats: Why would this be a surprise?

It would be in that the SSA really pushes you to get you to do direct deposit.

I've had people say the SS help line tells people they "must" have a bank account and direct deposit.

Saves SS costs but also will help most of their payees in this situation at least.

There are half a million holdouts who may not even have a bank account. Or even ready access to a bank.


Oh yeah.

There are a few who have mental issues about banks and won't trust an alt payee to help them.

A lot of them end up on the street, using check cashing hell holes and getting rolled. Then they can't get their meds - or stop the meds and forget they have checks coming - and they spiral into shiat and end up in jail, if they're lucky.

TLDR - I couldn't do disability work for long, it got to me.
 
2020-08-19 5:38:02 AM  

wearsmanyhats: wejash: wearsmanyhats: Why would this be a surprise?

It would be in that the SSA really pushes you to get you to do direct deposit.

I've had people say the SS help line tells people they "must" have a bank account and direct deposit.

Saves SS costs but also will help most of their payees in this situation at least.

There are half a million holdouts who may not even have a bank account. Or even ready access to a bank.



Comerica bank specifically addresses that with their Direct Express program.  It's a debit card specifically set up for SSA deposit and, assuming nothing funky happens, you never have to deal directly with the bank.
 
2020-08-19 5:39:27 AM  
Can't direct deposit meemaw's diabetes pills.
 
2020-08-19 5:40:27 AM  
No problem w/my check.....I couldn't get my SSD w/out signing up for direct deposit.  Been that way for over 20 years now.
 
2020-08-19 5:42:01 AM  

Insain2: No problem w/my check.....I couldn't get my SSD w/out signing up for direct deposit.  Been that way for over 20 years now.


So anyone older than 85 could still be on paper checks, even assuming that you're correct and there's no exemptions or alternate process to sign up today without a bank account.
 
2020-08-19 5:43:34 AM  
FTFA:
"The Republicans aren't making up the "2013" date out of thin air. Since March 2013, a federal rule has generally required Social Security recipients to get their money via direct deposit. A January 2013 CNN article was headlined, "No more paper Social Security checks come March."But the 2013 rule did not make physical checks vanish entirely.As the body of that January 2013 CNN article made clear, people who didn't adopt direct deposit by March 2013 were not forced to do so, merely urged to do so with more aggressive government communication efforts."So not 20 years, 7 years. And they didn't force the changeover for folks already signed up, merely encouraged it.
 
2020-08-19 5:45:41 AM  
Ah, I see, another thread where we're questioning why elderly people don't 'get with the times'. Next week: "Why isn't Social Security paid in BitCoin?"
 
2020-08-19 6:04:23 AM  
While 99.1% of Social Security recipients now receive their money via direct deposit, that remaining 0.9% equals 549,818 people receiving checks...

That damn 1%...
 
2020-08-19 6:06:43 AM  
I work with a woman, who is somewhere older than 65, with cognitive difficulties.  She's mostly independent, has a banking account, but gets the SSI in check form.  Hers is a savings account, and for some mysterious reasons, the 3 times she's tried to go the direct deposit route, it utterly fails.  We ran into problems at both ends, so it's hard to assign full blame to either bureaucratic complex.  The check arrives, we alert her and she brings her deposit slip.  Someone makes sure it's a pre-printed one with her correct info and makes her deposit.  Two or three days later, we check again to be sure the funds are really, truly there.  Then, she releases all her bill payments at one time and transfers some to a debit card for her Uber.  Cash she picks up from her side hustle is her grocery and entertainment funds.

Life in the poverty class is non-stop stress.  And takes an entire village to keep it together.
 
2020-08-19 6:12:18 AM  

Shaggy_C: Ah, I see, another thread where we're questioning why elderly people don't 'get with the times'. Next week: "Why isn't Social Security paid in BitCoin?"


Hunh. You know what, this comment gave me a different insight into your character.

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2020-08-19 6:18:30 AM  
You should be required to forfeit voting rights to use retirement stuff like SS


I feel it would be a fair trade
 
2020-08-19 6:20:31 AM  

lifeslammer: You should be required to forfeit voting rights to use retirement stuff like SS


I feel it would be a fair trade


Alright, I'll bite. Why on earth would that be a fair trade? Even the poorest soul should be able to cast their vote as an American...
 
2020-08-19 6:23:18 AM  
There are people that can't even get a bank account anywhere due to their previous farkups with the banking system. My brother is one such person, "Hey, I got checks so I can't be out of money".
 
2020-08-19 6:30:37 AM  

cherryl taggart: I work with a woman, who is somewhere older than 65, with cognitive difficulties.  She's mostly independent, has a banking account, but gets the SSI in check form.  Hers is a savings account, and for some mysterious reasons, the 3 times she's tried to go the direct deposit route, it utterly fails.  We ran into problems at both ends, so it's hard to assign full blame to either bureaucratic complex.  The check arrives, we alert her and she brings her deposit slip.  Someone makes sure it's a pre-printed one with her correct info and makes her deposit.  Two or three days later, we check again to be sure the funds are really, truly there.  Then, she releases all her bill payments at one time and transfers some to a debit card for her Uber.  Cash she picks up from her side hustle is her grocery and entertainment funds.

Life in the poverty class is non-stop stress.  And takes an entire village to keep it together.


Thank you for helping this woman.
 
2020-08-19 6:38:16 AM  
I had lunch with a FEMA official whose office was in the first nuke bunker, and he admitted their major task was to issue checks to make things happen.
 
2020-08-19 6:38:28 AM  

lifeslammer: You should be required to forfeit voting rights to use retirement stuff like SS


I feel it would be a fair trade


No you don't.
F**k off.
 
2020-08-19 6:45:33 AM  
Thing is, we already have direct evidence that Trump and his death cult don't care if hundreds of thousands die, so I don't see how hundreds of thousands more losing their income moves any needles.  That the SSA still mails out paper checks isn't a revelation to anyone with more than half a brain.
 
2020-08-19 6:56:15 AM  

Somaticasual: lifeslammer: You should be required to forfeit voting rights to use retirement stuff like SS


I feel it would be a fair trade

Alright, I'll bite. Why on earth would that be a fair trade? Even the poorest soul should be able to cast their vote as an American...


Ick.  Don't bite that.  Now go rinse your mouth out, quick.
 
2020-08-19 6:58:47 AM  
Trump has taken away your health, your means of living and your right to vote.  I can see why you like him.
 
2020-08-19 7:00:32 AM  
The whole narrative that the Post Office is obsolete and people don't need it any more has collapsed like a house of cards.
They floated their chickenshiat little trial balloon, and it got shot down in a hail of public outrage - now they are backpedalling at warp speed.
Anybody who bought into it is as dumb as dogshiat, and should feel stupid and bad about themselves.
 
2020-08-19 7:03:09 AM  
So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?
 
2020-08-19 7:06:32 AM  

Closed_Minded_Bastage: There are people that can't even get a bank account anywhere due to their previous farkups with the banking system. My brother is one such person, "Hey, I got checks so I can't be out of money".


A type of banking system for people in that position is one of several imagined functions for the post office. Granted, check cashing places would go out of business pretty quickly, but I'm ok with that.
 
2020-08-19 7:13:46 AM  

joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?


Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat
 
2020-08-19 7:18:50 AM  

wejash: wearsmanyhats: wejash: wearsmanyhats: Why would this be a surprise?

It would be in that the SSA really pushes you to get you to do direct deposit.

I've had people say the SS help line tells people they "must" have a bank account and direct deposit.

Saves SS costs but also will help most of their payees in this situation at least.

There are half a million holdouts who may not even have a bank account. Or even ready access to a bank.

Oh yeah.

There are a few who have mental issues about banks and won't trust an alt payee to help them.

A lot of them end up on the street, using check cashing hell holes and getting rolled. Then they can't get their meds - or stop the meds and forget they have checks coming - and they spiral into shiat and end up in jail, if they're lucky.

TLDR - I couldn't do disability work for long, it got to me.


I'd imagine if you lost your entire life savings during the great depression in a failed bank that you trusted to keep your money safe, then you <i>might</i> have some "issues."

I realize after that there were safeguards put into place but if that'd happened to me I probably still be feeling the sting.

\TLDR. Sorry about your ADD
 
2020-08-19 7:24:35 AM  

Kirablue42: Then there are the EBT "food stamp" program which is federal. The TANF assistance is already state run, so Trump can't fark with that too much. So he is trying to hurt people however he can using the federal sources.

I fully expect millions to not get their money or their food stamp benefit this coming month.


Millions will go hungry and homeless.  We are about to see some serious shiat
 
2020-08-19 7:26:16 AM  

lifeslammer: You should be required to forfeit voting rights to use retirement stuff like SS


I feel it would be a fair trade


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2020-08-19 7:28:18 AM  

Notabunny: Closed_Minded_Bastage: There are people that can't even get a bank account anywhere due to their previous farkups with the banking system. My brother is one such person, "Hey, I got checks so I can't be out of money".

A type of banking system for people in that position is one of several imagined functions for the post office. Granted, check cashing places would go out of business pretty quickly, but I'm ok with that.


Every once in a while I see this idea get some play, and every time it does I wish somebody with some pull would notice it. It would be such a tremendous benefit to a lot of people and help keep the USPS solvent.
 
2020-08-19 7:29:09 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat


Sorry but that is not possible.
 
2020-08-19 7:32:35 AM  
Have I mentioned that your country has a insane problem with how it uses its tax dollars to help people in need?

Everything seems like a battle.  Most comfortable people in the US have no problem with paying taxes to help those people who are suffering.

All of the "anger" towards the poor seems to come from vested interests, who have one aim and one aim only - do not question why some people have multiple boats and more houses, whilst you do not have enough money to pay the rent.

The whole US political system is run by people with money, both sides have been bought out by them, and there are no real "left" with any power in the US.  Your country is so far right that a couple more steps to the right is Hitler level fascism, but to get to the left will take a marathon.
 
2020-08-19 7:35:13 AM  

lifeslammer: You should be required to forfeit voting rights to use retirement stuff like SS


I feel it would be a fair trade


Why? That's dumb.
 
2020-08-19 7:39:06 AM  

GoldSpider: Notabunny: Closed_Minded_Bastage: There are people that can't even get a bank account anywhere due to their previous farkups with the banking system. My brother is one such person, "Hey, I got checks so I can't be out of money".

A type of banking system for people in that position is one of several imagined functions for the post office. Granted, check cashing places would go out of business pretty quickly, but I'm ok with that.

Every once in a while I see this idea get some play, and every time it does I wish somebody with some pull would notice it. It would be such a tremendous benefit to a lot of people and help keep the USPS solvent.


The USPS used to offer it until sometime in the '60s. When Congress shut it down, the USPS had a balance equivalent to $30,000,000,000 in today's dollars. I imagine that would go a long way toward keeping the USPS solvent. Other countries, like Japan and Germany and South Korea, offer a post office banking system. It's like a 'public option' bank that serves everyone, not just those who the private for-profit banks see as the most profitable
 
2020-08-19 7:39:47 AM  

joker420: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat

Sorry but that is not possible.


Don't sell yourself short.  It IS possible to read the article.  When I said we were counting on you I meant it!

joker, joker, joker, joker!
 
2020-08-19 7:44:55 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: joker420: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat

Sorry but that is not possible.

Don't sell yourself short.  It IS possible to read the article.  When I said we were counting on you I meant it!

joker, joker, joker, joker!


Welp Einstein, when one news agency says the number of checks is 550,000 and another says 850,000 one has to be wrong in reality.
 
2020-08-19 7:44:56 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: joker420: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat

Sorry but that is not possible.

Don't sell yourself short.  It IS possible to read the article.  When I said we were counting on you I meant it!

joker, joker, joker, joker!


There's a reason why his posts show up in red for me, and he's tagged with a single word that's a slur for folks with cognitive disabilities.
 
2020-08-19 7:48:07 AM  

joker420: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat

Sorry but that is not possible.

Don't sell yourself short.  It IS possible to read the article.  When I said we were counting on you I meant it!

joker, joker, joker, joker!

Welp Einstein, when one news agency says the number of checks is 550,000 and another says 850,000 one has to be wrong in reality.


One of them said zero.  So weird.
 
2020-08-19 7:48:50 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat


Yeah - but what if he is a moron?
 
2020-08-19 7:53:35 AM  

joker420: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat

Sorry but that is not possible.

Don't sell yourself short.  It IS possible to read the article.  When I said we were counting on you I meant it!

joker, joker, joker, joker!

Welp Einstein, when one news agency says the number of checks is 550,000 and another says 850,000 one has to be wrong in reality.


FFS I know it's against the rules, but take a second and read the article. Hint: The 2 numbers refer to slightly different things.
 
2020-08-19 7:57:14 AM  
Well not any more.
 
2020-08-19 8:00:24 AM  
Those farking people will bicker about ANYTHING to avoid a discussion of important policy matters of the day.  COVID, racial justice, that kind of thing.

Good to see that we're above all that here.
 
2020-08-19 8:01:33 AM  

jso2897: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat

Yeah - but what if he is a moron?


I'll make it simple for you mouth breathers, what is the number of check the SSA sends out each month? Lol
 
2020-08-19 8:01:57 AM  

joker420: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat

Sorry but that is not possible.


Yes, it is. You'll have you use your clicky-finger and read the learny-words to find out how.
 
2020-08-19 8:05:15 AM  
There are a LOT of people in this country that don't even have a bank account to get direct deposit.
For a myriad of reasons..Some (especially minorities) are taught that banks are not trustworthy
and a lot of other false things, or things that have not been true for decades, simply because it's
ingrained culturally. Some people just don't EVER have enough money at the end of the day to open
an account. Some of those are by choice, because they believe that saving is foolish and live for
the moment because there might not be a tomorrow (that sort of fatalism is big among poor white people).

And there is no convincing a lot of them otherwise. They are literally money in the mattress people.
To make it worse, these people use "check cashing" places that take a nice piece of every check
they ever get for the privilege of cashing it. Most of those types of places are in poor areas.
 
2020-08-19 8:05:46 AM  

joker420: jso2897: Nana's Vibrator: joker420: So which is the fake news, the 550,000 or the 850,000?

Read the article.  It's in the article.  It's not spelled out for morons but if you're not a moron you'll notice how both 550,000 and 850,000 are good numbers.  Best of luck.  We're all counting you.

/pat

Yeah - but what if he is a moron?

I'll make it simple for you mouth breathers, what is the number of check the SSA sends out each month? Lol


Here's a snippet that you might find interesting, and may inspire you to actually read the article to find out the answer to your question:

"The Daily Caller, a conservative website, deleted and apologized for a Monday tweet that had tried to fact check Longoria by claiming that Social Security stopped sending out paper checks in 2013."
 
2020-08-19 8:07:10 AM  

jso2897: The whole narrative that the Post Office is obsolete and people don't need it any more has collapsed like a house of cards.
They floated their chickenshiat little trial balloon, and it got shot down in a hail of public outrage - now they are backpedalling at warp speed.
Anybody who bought into it is as dumb as dogshiat, and should feel stupid and bad about themselves.


The GOP has been trying to force that narrative to be true, by requiring the long advance funding of the Postal retirement system, and by prohibiting the USPS from expanding beyond mail delivery.

In 2005, she [Susan Collins] sponsored and introduced legislation, the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, that required the USPS to pre-pay the next 50 years worth of health and retirement benefits for all of its employees-a rule that no other federal agency must follow. As chair of the Senate oversight panel at the time, she shepherded the bill's passage, along with her House GOP counterpart Tom Davis, during a lame-duck session of Congress. It passed by a voice vote without any objections-a maneuver that gave members little time to consider what they were doing.
To meet the mandate for prefunding USPS's health and retirement benefits, the measure required the Postal Service to place roughly $5.5 billion into a pension fund every year between 2007 and 2016, followed by sizable additional payments, making it impossible for the institution to run a profit. To make it even harder for the USPS to make money, the law prohibited the agency from any new activities outside of delivering mail
Link.
 
2020-08-19 8:08:07 AM  

joker420: I'll make it simple for you mouth breathers, what is the number of check the SSA sends out each month?


Nearly 850,000

Note, if you had asked instead, "What is the number of OASDI check [sic] the SSA sends out each month?" the answer would be "nearly 550,000."

You are confused because 850,000 is the number of OASDI plus SSI checks and 550,000 is the number of OASDI checks. Also you are confused because you are not very bright and have poor reading comprehension skills.
 
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