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2020-08-18 4:35:52 PM  
Sneak into Canada and beg for asylum.
 
2020-08-18 4:37:22 PM  
www.reddit.com/r/vagabond

www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers

www.reddit.com/r/homeschool  or unschool (which is cooler)
 
2020-08-18 4:37:40 PM  
The biggest question is why would you want to put yourself and your kids at risk to get infected with CV-19?

You shouldn't be going anywhere.
 
2020-08-18 4:38:51 PM  
That's always been a dream of mine, as in: unable to sleep all night for weeks just thinking about planning out the RV, sort of dream.  Someday I'll convert the M1086A1 and start out.
Hope it rocks for ya.
 
2020-08-18 4:39:15 PM  
Good idea, save the house cash because you're selling at exactly the right time
 
2020-08-18 4:39:19 PM  
My advice to a guy who's mom was doing this.

My dad was voluntarily homeless for more than 10 years.
He started with DVDs from libraries but that didn't work ... a wifi hotspot became his favorite entertainment.
A folder with ALL of her medical information/medical history. My dad had BAGS of unused pill bottles and when he had a medical emergency we couldn't give the hospital a straight answer as to WHAT he was taking.
Make sure her doctors HERE know that she is moving around. The system is NOT great at keeping track of movement. However, telehealth is now becoming MORE used (and the hotspot would help with this).
Her will and medical proxy information. If you are sure of a secure email (like a work email...not yahoo)...have her email herself AND YOU a copy of these things. And the phone number of her lawyer. If she has a life insurance policy, make sure YOU have a copy (or the original) of it. We had to spend days looking for one for my mother in law. She had never mentioned having one and it was a coincidence that the insurance agent called her the day after she died.
Have all of her mail forwarded to your address. She needs to establish residency SOMEWHERE to get things in the mail. Have her establish with you if possible.
AAA or ALLSTATE roadside insurance. and as someone who mentioned, an atlas.
freecampsites.net (I think it is .net) is a great resource for places to stay at night.
Make sure your contact information is in her phone. Your work phone number, etc. I'd get her a bracelet with her name and YOUR phone number on it. Make sure you update all of this info in HER phone under medical information.
CASHAPP linked to her account...western union is expensive.
One thing I learned from my dad's death is that having ME on his checking account saved me the hassle of it going through probate.
Bandanas are great for keeping her hair from blowing in the wind as she's tooling down the road. Sunscreen for her left arm.
Good luck and keep us updated!
 
2020-08-18 4:39:47 PM  
You are going to meet whole new groups of people who will be either old, or quite odd.

Good luck with that.
 
2020-08-18 4:40:55 PM  

Wanebo: You are going to meet whole new groups of people who will be either old, or quite odd.

Good luck with that.


Said as someone who has done that.
 
2020-08-18 4:40:57 PM  
Wife is on board with this?
 
2020-08-18 4:42:49 PM  

Wanebo: You are going to meet whole new groups of people who will be either old, or quite odd.

Good luck with that.


A lot of swingers too ... I'm told.
 
2020-08-18 4:45:07 PM  

dionysusaur: Wanebo: You are going to meet whole new groups of people who will be either old, or quite odd.

Good luck with that.

A lot of swingers too ... I'm told.


Yeah, we encountered those too.

But they were either old or quite odd.
 
2020-08-18 4:45:07 PM  
Its definitely a very niche lifestyle.  Good luck.

If hiking is on the agenda, Cloud Peak Wilderness in the Big Horn Mountains of Wyoming is beautiful.

Duluth, MN area is amazing.  Itasca state park in Minnesota is worth a visit (headwaters of the Mississippi river)
 
2020-08-18 4:47:26 PM  
Take me with you?
 
2020-08-18 4:48:36 PM  

DarkTrance: That's always been a dream of mine, as in: unable to sleep all night for weeks just thinking about planning out the RV, sort of dream.  Someday I'll convert the M1086A1 and start out.
Hope it rocks for ya.


It's a dream of mine, too. I've lost sleep many nights going down youtube rabbit holes about RV's.
 
2020-08-18 4:49:29 PM  
We did a month long RV tour of the western national parks. There were a few things that made life easy for all of us (two adults, 9 & 13yo kids).

1. Campendium App (learned about this from some RV long-termers). You can find camping spots, available hook-ups, and reviews. Includes everything from state/national parks to RV campgrounds to Walmart parking lots. Complete with reviews. My favorite was one for the Walmart in Butte, Montana that said the place is good for overnighting, but don't try to sleep until 10pm because of the aggressively loud parking lot street sweeper. We found many cool places with this app that we wouldn't have known about otherwise.

2. Coleman RoadTrip LX Propane Grill or equivalent. We used it almost every day, did very little cooking in the RV. That way we didn't have to run a generator for AC on hot days made hotter by cooking. It has swappable plates for grilling, griddle, and pots.

3. A bedsheet, cheap portable LCD projector and computer/DVD player/smart device makes for fun family "drive-in" movie nights.

4. Use bins to organize your equipment and make shuffling things around easier.

5. On the first or second day the youngest started whining, so we stated there is no whining on the RV and placed a "No Whining Zone" above his seat. Depending on the ages and dispositions of your kids, this may or may not work. It did for us.

6. Take advantage of the annual national parks admission card and the junior rangers program.

7. Have fun, if we had the space to store an RV for a reasonable price we'd get one and tour again in a heartbeat.
 
2020-08-18 4:50:41 PM  

Wanebo: You are going to meet whole new groups of people who will be either old, or quite odd.
Good luck with that.


Good. Normal people suck. 'Old' people have a life experiences to talk about. Unlike youngsters who are staring at their phones all the time, and can't put them down to save their own lives.
I'm thinking of selling my house and buying a small RV myself.
 
2020-08-18 4:51:11 PM  
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2020-08-18 4:51:11 PM  
Learn to use and maintain every system before you get on the road.
Learn how to dump shiat without getting it on you, keeping the fridge pilot lit, test the heat and AC, the generator, all of it.
RVing is a skill that takes decades to get OK at, and even then you are learning something every trip.
 
2020-08-18 4:53:09 PM  
Don't drive on any thing labeled scenic route

Actual advice from someone who wrote a book about a similar RV trip
 
2020-08-18 4:55:55 PM  
Hubby and I have been thinking about doing something similar, so I have been researching RVs.

Apparently, you do not want to buy a brand-new one, because the "shakedown" cruise will be literally that. Whatever can come apart, break, come loose, snap, or fall will do so. You will have water leaks from both the plumbing system and the roof. You are essentially driving a house, so think about all the pipes and fittings and electrical wiring and so on in your home and how they would fare driving 70 miles down the freeway. Kinda makes you cringe, huh?

So, what you want is a USED RV that has already had everything come apart and leak and been repaired, so you have avoided those costs, just check all the repairs. Also note that some parts are hard/difficult to find in rural areas, keep that in mind if you are parked in bum-fark nowhere and the rig won't start or the toilet is pumping into the vehicle.

There are a lot of new restrictions on where you can park and they are changing all the time, especially with COVID going on. You used to be able to use any WalMart parking lot, but they are not looking kindly on that lately. KOA-type camp-grounds/RV parks are available. From what I understand, you can get memberships that will allow you to hook up anywhere in the US for a yearly fee.

From what I have gathered in my research, there is a lively community of RV retirees. I don't know of anybody who is RV'ing permanently with kids, but who knows, they may be out there.

We have had to be evacuated due to wildfires in NorCA and we do not want to go through that trauma again. We want a home we can drive away from the fires that can house us and the cats relatively comfortably, which is a consideration as I am disabled. But the more I read about RVs the less interested I became in them. So much goes wrong, so much breaks, so much leaks, it ended up not being worth it to us. Hubby wanted a shower so badly, but no.

We decided not to sell the house, not buy an RV, and instead we are going to get a van and do an interior conversion that at least allows for proper sleeping. For cooking and washing, we can go to a motel or whatever. At least we will have somewhat of a home we can drive away from a fire.

Good luck, Subby, I wish you all well.
 
2020-08-18 4:59:01 PM  

spongeboob: Don't drive on any thing labeled scenic route

Actual advice from someone who wrote a book about a similar RV trip


Oh yeah. This is actually great advice. If you are planning on doing the scenic drives tow a daily driver or occasionally rent a car to do so. Enterprise used to have a special program for that even.
 
2020-08-18 5:01:52 PM  
Oh yeah, RVs don't have the best insulation so plan your route according the seasons. People tend to criss-cross the Northern US through late summer/early fall heading farther south as winter approaches.
 
2020-08-18 5:02:44 PM  
Learn which lever dumps what.  Invest in holding tank digester tablets if you're going to be away from civilization for more than a week, especially in summer.

Also, buy lots of those blue shop towels, bleach spray, and disposable gloves.

I'm seriously considering doing this for a couple years if I could ever convince Mrs Farkie to move to the UK.

SOLD - Green Matters, 60' Trad 2007 Johnathan Wilson / Fernwood
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2020-08-18 5:02:52 PM  

Wanebo: spongeboob: Don't drive on any thing labeled scenic route

Actual advice from someone who wrote a book about a similar RV trip

Oh yeah. This is actually great advice. If you are planning on doing the scenic drives tow a daily driver or occasionally rent a car to do so. Enterprise used to have a special program for that even.


We rented a car for the Going to the Sun road. Best decision ever, and the rental people would have let us stay the night in their lot if we needed it.
 
2020-08-18 5:04:20 PM  
 
2020-08-18 5:07:21 PM  
Pick a state that is easy to become a resident and no state income tax (Texas is easy) get a PO box at a place that caters to RVers for mail forwarding. You need a place for your DL to stay valid and insurance.
 
2020-08-18 5:11:17 PM  
Before driving off with an RV, you do a walkaround every time to check your awning, sewer hose, antenna, children, lights, tow vehicle connections, windows and vents, and anything else that needs to be put away properly.

And then your wife does the same walkaround to see what you missed. Because, sooner or later, you will miss something.

Alternate who does the walkaround first to mix things up and keep the finger-pointing even.
 
2020-08-18 5:24:15 PM  
Research the fark out of everything. Where you can park, where you can get services and supplies. How to fix and maintain your rig. Might be better to get a trailer/5th wheel rather than a motor coach as you can detach the truck for easier in town transport.

I have a friend that did this and she loves it.
 
2020-08-18 5:28:58 PM  
Frankly, small children will not appreciate this, will whine and complain, and will not really be particularly enriched by the experience.  My take is you and the wife are being selfish as this is something you think will be fun for the whole gang.  It won't be, and there will be some hospital visits that will break the bank.
 
2020-08-18 5:32:41 PM  
Empty the black water tank first.  Close it off, then empty the grey water tank.

Make sure the gray water tank is very full so it washes out the line good.

Remember as a kid turning on the water hose and it would stand up and swirl around like a snake spraying water everywhere?  You can do the same thing with sewage if you don't have the drain line weighted down good when you open the valve to empty the holding tank.  To say it's not pleasant is an understatement.
 
2020-08-18 5:48:20 PM  
This is why there always seems to be at least one RV parked in some driveway on our streets for months at a time. Usually with a 'for sale' sign in it.

Middle aged/older folks think they will get away from it all, go live on the road. In our neighborhood, they serm to let their kids live in the house and push their IRA money into the RV.

A year or two later, they're back. There was only so much fun to be had with a bunch of RVers around, the people are weird, the money didn't last and it wasn't as cheap as expected, they got tired of beingstied to the RV, the people are weird, there was 'that smell,' the people are weird.

The RV gets sold to some newbiatching to go exploring.

I think these are the motorized version of timeshares.
 
2020-08-18 6:14:51 PM  

wejash: This is why there always seems to be at least one RV parked in some driveway on our streets for months at a time. Usually with a 'for sale' sign in it.

Middle aged/older folks think they will get away from it all, go live on the road. In our neighborhood, they serm to let their kids live in the house and push their IRA money into the RV.

A year or two later, they're back. There was only so much fun to be had with a bunch of RVers around, the people are weird, the money didn't last and it wasn't as cheap as expected, they got tired of beingstied to the RV, the people are weird, there was 'that smell,' the people are weird.

The RV gets sold to some newbiatching to go exploring.

I think these are the motorized version of timeshares.


The problem I have with RVs besides being over $200k used to do in any sort of comfort are a real pain to drive ( rent one and try driving before buying)and in several locations parking is in a trailer park.
I have lived on a sailboat a few times and once for 18 months in the Carib.It was fun for a while traveling between countries.
For Less than $100k a person can get a nice used Sailboat around a 45 footer and not have to deal with the trailer park people. The trump boat people are normally marina queens that don't venture to far.
A sail around the great lakes and out the Saint Lawrence or down theMississippi to the gulf or run up any US Coast could be a great long trip.

Timeshares are worse, you can easily get rid of an RV.
 
2020-08-18 6:40:04 PM  

Ambivalence: Might be better to get a trailer/5th wheel rather than a motor coach as you can detach the truck for easier in town transport.


Never thought of that. thanks
 
2020-08-18 7:03:03 PM  

Godscrack: Ambivalence: Might be better to get a trailer/5th wheel rather than a motor coach as you can detach the truck for easier in town transport.

Never thought of that. thanks


Only thing about this with kids is that they will be more cooped up on travel days than in an RV. We had them belt while in motion, but they still had tons of room to spread out their stuff and stretch their limbs.
 
2020-08-18 8:44:59 PM  
Does the wife know about this plan?
Rent one first, and do a long-term dry run with no cheating.   That means living with all of you 24/7 in it, whilst finding places to park, and taking turns with child care and driving.  Finding laundromats, and refill/empty all tanks, and cooking your own food.  Plus finding storage for all your stuff that you'll need year-round.
And by 'no cheating' it means not parking in someone's driveway or anywhere in your or a relative's hometown.

/ SO's bro found out the hard way that family living 24/7 in an RV is a no go.
// Now only one member of the family is willing to be in that RV
/// and its not one of the kids
 
2020-08-18 8:51:42 PM  
It's the thing I dreamed about doing 45 years ago. Go for it. You might regret it, but if you don't, you most certainly will regret it.
 
2020-08-18 8:55:42 PM  
You will encounter a lot of Trumpanistas. A LOT. And a lot of scary ones. I sold my RV two years ago because it wasn't exactly the experience I hoped for
 
2020-08-18 8:59:00 PM  
Also, it's all fine now because gas is cheap. But when it goes up, and it always does, going places in an RV or towing one gets very pricey very fast.
 
2020-08-18 9:05:05 PM  
Oh, and practice backing up and figuring out how and where to park your rig so you don't: jackknife the thing if towing, or hit something you can't see with a big bus. If towing, make sure you have a backup camera.

If you buy a used Airstream in good condition you will likely be able to sell it without taking a bath. Otherwise, prepare to have the fastest depreciating asset you'll ever own.
 
2020-08-18 9:06:16 PM  
Get a nice car instead and stay in hotels. You'll like it and everyone will be in a better mood in the morning.
 
2020-08-18 9:58:00 PM  
Subby here. Some additional info/answers. A lot of things line up to make this possible and it seems like there may not be another chance. I lost my job, wife can work remotely (at least until the end of Dec, likely longer). We wanted to sell our house anyway because we want to downsize. Kids will be doing remote learning. We'll get a good chunk on the sale of the house. Enough to get a truck and good sized RV. We'll sell our two cars as well.

We will not be going to any heavily populated areas. We will be going to national parks mostly. We're not planning on socializing. Wife and I are both introverts and also want to keep socially distancing.

When we come back we'll find a smaller place. I think it will be a good experience for the family. We have already done shorter trips so we have a sense of what it will be like.

Thanks for all the feedback.
 
2020-08-18 10:01:18 PM  
Good luck. Don't skimp on the truck.. Diesel is best.
 
2020-08-18 10:06:41 PM  
Watch From Dusk till Dawn again then decide.
 
2020-08-18 10:07:02 PM  

Porkbelly: Frankly, small children will not appreciate this, will whine and complain, and will not really be particularly enriched by the experience.  My take is you and the wife are being selfish as this is something you think will be fun for the whole gang.  It won't be, and there will be some hospital visits that will break the bank.


They're 6 and 9 so not that little. It is certainly a concern that the kids will not enjoy it, or frankly that we'll be a week in and feel like we made a big mistake. But as I mentioned above we've done smaller trips and the kids have really enjoyed it. We talked with them before making a decision and didn't foist it on them. While the time will be indefinite it will likely be 3-6 months.
 
2020-08-18 10:08:14 PM  

dionysusaur: Sneak into Canada and beg for asylum.


nope. stay out plague rats
 
2020-08-18 10:09:48 PM  

toejam: Subby here. Some additional info/answers. A lot of things line up to make this possible and it seems like there may not be another chance. I lost my job, wife can work remotely (at least until the end of Dec, likely longer). We wanted to sell our house anyway because we want to downsize. Kids will be doing remote learning. We'll get a good chunk on the sale of the house. Enough to get a truck and good sized RV. We'll sell our two cars as well.

We will not be going to any heavily populated areas. We will be going to national parks mostly. We're not planning on socializing. Wife and I are both introverts and also want to keep socially distancing.

When we come back we'll find a smaller place. I think it will be a good experience for the family. We have already done shorter trips so we have a sense of what it will be like.

Thanks for all the feedback.


Curious if you considered a towable tiny house? If you are handy you could customize it to better fit your needs. I know a builder that builds nice ones.
 
2020-08-18 10:10:33 PM  

toejam: Subby here.... We will be going to national parks mostly. We're not planning on socializing. Wife and I are both introverts and also want to keep socially distancing.
...


If you're thinking Nat'l Parks, you should read this week's article re: current Covid crowding there:
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/11/900270​3​44/we-had-to-get-out-despite-the-risks​-business-is-booming-at-national-parks​
 
2020-08-18 10:14:37 PM  

eurotrader: toejam: Subby here. Some additional info/answers. A lot of things line up to make this possible and it seems like there may not be another chance. I lost my job, wife can work remotely (at least until the end of Dec, likely longer). We wanted to sell our house anyway because we want to downsize. Kids will be doing remote learning. We'll get a good chunk on the sale of the house. Enough to get a truck and good sized RV. We'll sell our two cars as well.

We will not be going to any heavily populated areas. We will be going to national parks mostly. We're not planning on socializing. Wife and I are both introverts and also want to keep socially distancing.

When we come back we'll find a smaller place. I think it will be a good experience for the family. We have already done shorter trips so we have a sense of what it will be like.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Curious if you considered a towable tiny house? If you are handy you could customize it to better fit your needs. I know a builder that builds nice ones.


I didn't. Is there a big difference? Do you need a special license or permit?
 
2020-08-18 10:16:12 PM  

nanim: toejam: Subby here.... We will be going to national parks mostly. We're not planning on socializing. Wife and I are both introverts and also want to keep socially distancing.
...

If you're thinking Nat'l Parks, you should read this week's article re: current Covid crowding there:
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/11/9002703​44/we-had-to-get-out-despite-the-risks​-business-is-booming-at-national-parks​


Thanks!
 
2020-08-18 10:17:49 PM  

toejam: Porkbelly: Frankly, small children will not appreciate this, will whine and complain, and will not really be particularly enriched by the experience.  My take is you and the wife are being selfish as this is something you think will be fun for the whole gang.  It won't be, and there will be some hospital visits that will break the bank.

They're 6 and 9 so not that little. It is certainly a concern that the kids will not enjoy it, or frankly that we'll be a week in and feel like we made a big mistake. But as I mentioned above we've done smaller trips and the kids have really enjoyed it. We talked with them before making a decision and didn't foist it on them. While the time will be indefinite it will likely be 3-6 months.


9 year old will probably do better; I did a one month camping out west with 10 and 13 sons and they were ok, but by the end of the one month they wanted back to civilization.  If you make the daily driving portion very short they will do much better.
 
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