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(The Hill)   Three years too late to do any good, the stage is set for the Supreme Court to rule on whether three suits alleging that trump violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution can go forward   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-08-17 5:42:23 PM  
Clarence Thomas already has his "not guilty" vote ready.
 
2020-08-17 5:48:27 PM  
If they can go forward, I think the timing is about perfect.
 
2020-08-17 6:29:21 PM  
Only three Emoluments suits? Huh. Must just be from January 21st, 2017....
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-08-17 7:30:17 PM  
If he loses in November, the court can hold onto the cases until inauguration day and then dismiss them all as moot.
 
2020-08-17 8:01:32 PM  
*sigh* I miss the days when President Trump's scandalous behavior was merely illegal.
 
2020-08-17 8:01:35 PM  
This just in: Trump is found guilty and Hillary has been president for the last 3.5 years. Thousands of people didn't die, the KKK is crying...
 
2020-08-17 8:02:12 PM  
Like that needs to go to SCOTUS. Its obvious as fark.

Whats next, 3 years for scotus to decide if the sky is blue?
 
2020-08-17 8:03:33 PM  

PainInTheASP: If they can go forward, I think the timing is about perfect.


So Trump can whine incessantly about being targeted by the Dems (because he's a criminal)?  Everyone that can be convinced already has been for the most part.  Having this during the election just inflames his base.
 
2020-08-17 8:06:27 PM  
Justice delayed is justice denied.
 
2020-08-17 8:07:57 PM  
What was the thing from the Bush administration? While you reality-based people are focused on the actual truth, time's moved on and they've created another reality? The Trump administration is doing a speed-fueled version of that.
 
2020-08-17 8:08:36 PM  
Can we arrest him for campaign violations for using Air Force 1 as a farking campaign event prop today?
 
2020-08-17 8:09:05 PM  

AntiNerd: Justice delayed is justice denied.


That's how Trump operates. That's why he has always had a team of lawyers at his disposal. He knows that ultimately he'll probably lose, but most people lose interest before they get to that point because they simply can't afford to continue dragging it out for years and years. And now he's got 30% of this country giving him what's left of their meaget paychecks so he has virtually unlimited legal funds to play with. Oh wait, are you going to tell me that using campaign funds for his personal legal expenses is illegal? LOL like that would matter
 
2020-08-17 8:12:22 PM  

The Perineum Falcon: Clarence Thomas already has his "not guilty" vote ready.


Providing he is awake at the time.
 
2020-08-17 8:12:22 PM  

iheartscotch: Only three Emoluments suits? Huh. Must just be from January 21st, 2017....


At 12:01pm
 
2020-08-17 8:13:10 PM  
There's no question he's guilty. The sticky point is who has standing to sue him. For every case I've read about the court has sent the plaintiff packing with a "no standing" ruling shoved up their bottom
 
2020-08-17 8:13:31 PM  

lolmao500: Like that needs to go to SCOTUS. Its obvious as fark.

Whats next, 3 years for scotus to decide if the sky is blue?


Iirc, it takes 6 SCOTUS votes to hear a case.
 
2020-08-17 8:14:11 PM  
This must mean something huge is about to drop. I'm thinking by the day after the conclusion of the Democratic National Convention.
 
2020-08-17 8:14:41 PM  
SCOTUS was a lot quicker during Watergate
 
2020-08-17 8:19:50 PM  
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2020-08-17 8:23:55 PM  
Three suits

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2020-08-17 8:24:35 PM  
I see this being ruled unanimously because the Republicans will want to spend the next years filing bs lawsuits against the Biden family in order to both sides the issue.
 
2020-08-17 8:25:39 PM  
"It is worth underscoring that only the threshold question of plaintiffs' constitutional standing at the pleading stage has been resolved by our Court. We are far from the finish line-the resolution of the merits of the plaintiffs' claims lies before us," the judge wrote. "On remand, the District Court will need to determine whether the operative complaint in this case states a claim upon which relief can be granted. In conducting this inquiry, the District Court likely will need to address various issues that have yet to be resolved by the Court of Appeals." [\quote] U.S. Circuit Judge Jose Cabranes   https://www.courthousenews.com/en-ba​nc​-second-circuit-wont-rehear-trump-emol​uments-case/

As the man says, long road to the finish line but heading in the right direction.
 
2020-08-17 8:27:16 PM  

sammyk: Can we arrest him for campaign violations for using Air Force 1 as a farking campaign event prop today?


At this point, don't inflame the base. Get out the vote and Vote on Election Day if you can.
 
2020-08-17 8:28:15 PM  
When it comes to light that the President did something unethical this is going to be huge news.
 
2020-08-17 8:33:50 PM  

Alaskan Yoda: sammyk: Can we arrest him for campaign violations for using Air Force 1 as a farking campaign event prop today?

At this point, don't inflame the base. Get out the vote and Vote on Election Day if you can.


I don't think it's ever a good idea to let a politician's crimes slide out of fear of giving his supporters a rallying cry.
 
2020-08-17 8:34:29 PM  
It's perfect timing. On the off chance Biden wins, he'll be sued the first time he's given a glass of water as a guest of another country.
 
2020-08-17 8:35:55 PM  

Call the Guy: There's no question he's guilty. The sticky point is who has standing to sue him. For every case I've read about the court has sent the plaintiff packing with a "no standing" ruling shoved up their bottom


I know this isn't how it works, but the answer should be: "literally any and every citizen of the country."
 
2020-08-17 8:52:24 PM  

AntiNerd: Justice delayed is justice denied.


There will be no justice here. Even if the Supreme Court allows these cases to continue, by the time they get anywhere, Biden will be getting sworn in, which will lead to the courts punting these cases into the sun as moot.
 
2020-08-17 8:58:19 PM  

Call the Guy: There's no question he's guilty. The sticky point is who has standing to sue him. For every case I've read about the court has sent the plaintiff packing with a "no standing" ruling shoved up their bottom


What's dumb about it is judges are erasing part of the constitution by saying no one has standing to sue.

This is an ideal place for the Supreme Court to weigh in to say how the emoluments clause is to be enforced.  If it is by lawsuit, say with clarity who has standing to sue. If the only way is through impeachment, say so.
 
2020-08-17 9:00:07 PM  

Troy McClure: AntiNerd: Justice delayed is justice denied.

There will be no justice here. Even if the Supreme Court allows these cases to continue, by the time they get anywhere, Biden will be getting sworn in, which will lead to the courts punting these cases into the sun as moot.


In the most charitable possible interpretation, the SCOTUS is dragging these cases out past the time at which Pedophile Traitor Donald Trump or Attorney Gangster Barr will be able to corrupt the proceedings under color of authority.
 
2020-08-17 9:20:36 PM  
Let's say that these suits go forward and they win.  What can the courts impose on Trump?  A fine?  Can they make him sell his hotels?
 
2020-08-17 9:28:16 PM  

Summoner101: PainInTheASP: If they can go forward, I think the timing is about perfect.

So Trump can whine incessantly about being targeted by the Dems (because he's a criminal)?  Everyone that can be convinced already has been for the most part.  Having this during the election just inflames his base.


It's not like you can inflame them any more. They have reached peak flame and have been there for long time.
 
2020-08-17 9:37:49 PM  

baron von doodle: lolmao500: Like that needs to go to SCOTUS. Its obvious as fark.

Whats next, 3 years for scotus to decide if the sky is blue?

Iirc, it takes 6 SCOTUS votes to hear a case.


Four
 
2020-08-17 10:07:43 PM  
Lock him up.

Freeze all his assets.

Charge him ridiculous fines.

Charge his kids and son-in-law as accessories.

Make America Great Again.
 
2020-08-17 10:17:47 PM  

AntiNerd: Justice delayed is justice denied.


Yeah, pretty much. That's the tweak needed most, time sensitive shiat needs to be treated that way. Subpoena? Courts have three weeks. Constitutional type abuse of power, all that stuff. Most of what trump got away with might've been prevented if the courts worked in even a kind of timely fashion. Of course, the senate abdication is the biggest issue, but I do think maybe, if the subpoena prices worked and the likes of mcgahn and boltin had testified before the house, maybe the public pressure would have been enough. (Ah, who'm I kidding). If some fark lawyer wants to tell me why that would be a bad idea I'd listen but... Obviously the wait three years then dismiss cause who cares is a shiat approach.
 
2020-08-17 10:49:22 PM  
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2020-08-17 11:52:53 PM  
The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun

The Washington Post, Jan. 20, 2017 (Inauguration Day)
 
2020-08-18 12:23:15 AM  

phaseolus: baron von doodle: lolmao500: Like that needs to go to SCOTUS. Its obvious as fark.

Whats next, 3 years for scotus to decide if the sky is blue?

Iirc, it takes 6 SCOTUS votes to hear a case.

Four


Well, poop.

Thanks for the correction.
 
2020-08-18 12:32:49 AM  

Drank_the_40_water: AntiNerd: Justice delayed is justice denied.

Yeah, pretty much. That's the tweak needed most, time sensitive shiat needs to be treated that way. Subpoena? Courts have three weeks. Constitutional type abuse of power, all that stuff. Most of what trump got away with might've been prevented if the courts worked in even a kind of timely fashion. Of course, the senate abdication is the biggest issue, but I do think maybe, if the subpoena prices worked and the likes of mcgahn and boltin had testified before the house, maybe the public pressure would have been enough. (Ah, who'm I kidding). If some fark lawyer wants to tell me why that would be a bad idea I'd listen but... Obviously the wait three years then dismiss cause who cares is a shiat approach.


Senate abdication aside..... There is a real thing going on now (that should have been resolved a few years ago) about Congressional subpoenas. When someone blows off a subpoena, what happens? The Dems, unfortunately, didn't play hardball from the start.

Now, getting down to the wire, there is a push to resolve the issue. Who knows WTF will happen.

I mean, can I use this as precedent to ignore a subpoena? Likely not unless I can afford a badass lawyer. And there is the rub.

Are there two distinct justice systems? Not in the hiring a better attorney sense. Literally, are there people who can ignore court rulings and those who can not?
 
2020-08-18 12:33:29 AM  

Alien Robot: The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun

The Washington Post, Jan. 20, 2017 (Inauguration Day)


Thanks for the laugh.
 
2020-08-18 12:59:17 AM  
States will rip. It's not for the feds to get involved in petty financial corruption.  Pardon my federal crimes. Plz Pence. Where the f u going!
 
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