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2020-08-15 5:52:21 AM  
24 is the record? It may happen. I can see it.
 
2020-08-15 8:47:54 AM  
Well, last night was against Boston so it was pretty much a lock

/Sox fan.

//So tired of 2020 for so many, many, many reasons.
 
2020-08-15 10:02:19 AM  
Wait. The article says he was "pulled from his previous start while one strike away from a win." Can a stats guy help me out, because to me that means he didn't get the win, and therefore this is #1 after 19 and a quality start but no decision.
 
2020-08-15 10:17:09 AM  

ntropy2012: Wait. The article says he was "pulled from his previous start while one strike away from a win." Can a stats guy help me out, because to me that means he didn't get the win, and therefore this is #1 after 19 and a quality start but no decision.


No-decisions don't count.

The 20 is over 27 games, as it says in the article.
 
2020-08-15 10:43:11 AM  
Ok, thanks. This is why I hate baseball stats, they don't work in my head. "Consecutive" to me, means exactly that, not "somewhat consecutive within a 27-game sample."
 
2020-08-15 1:06:19 PM  
It has nothing to do with sample size. To be clear they should have said 20 wins without a loss. I too believe consecutive means one after another without interruption. Stats are odd.
 
2020-08-15 1:18:12 PM  

red5ish: It has nothing to do with sample size. To be clear they should have said 20 wins without a loss. I too believe consecutive means one after another without interruption. Stats are odd.


Well, wins are decisions, so it's the correct phrasing. It's not 20 consecutive starts with wins. Or 20 consecutive starts with his team having won.

It's not quite analogous to soccer's W/L/T 'cause a tie is a result, whereas a no-decision isn't.

/now I'm much more interested in someone achieving a record streak of no-decisions, TBH
 
2020-08-15 1:23:39 PM  

red5ish: It has nothing to do with sample size. To be clear they should have said 20 wins without a loss. I too believe consecutive means one after another without interruption. Stats are odd.


Think of it like if you're rolling a die and 1s and 2s are losses, 3s and 4s are re-rolls (no-decisions) and don't count, and 5s and 6s are wins.

Now if they said he won 20 consecutive starts, that would mean exactly what y'all are thinking. But he compiled 20 consecutive wins.

A square is a rectangle, but not all rectangles are squares, and such.
 
2020-08-15 1:54:00 PM  
the bases form a square

if you square 20 you get 400

there were 300 Spartans at Thermopylae 

if you subtract 300 from 400 you get 100

100 is a perfect score on a high school history exam.

a perfect score is an A

therefore, the only conclusion we can draw is that he will lose his streak to Oakland

it all makes sense
 
2020-08-15 2:05:24 PM  

IAmRight: /now I'm much more interested in someone achieving a record streak of no-decisions, TBH


Apparently, the record is 10.

In a perfect world, I'd work at the Elias Sports Bureau.
 
2020-08-15 2:34:35 PM  

Gonz: IAmRight: /now I'm much more interested in someone achieving a record streak of no-decisions, TBH

Apparently, the record is 10.

In a perfect world, I'd work at the Elias Sports Bureau.


Imagine 27 consecutive no-decisions, though.

That's like a whole season at 0-0.

It'd be hilarious.
 
2020-08-15 4:18:04 PM  

ntropy2012: Wait. The article says he was "pulled from his previous start while one strike away from a win." Can a stats guy help me out, because to me that means he didn't get the win, and therefore this is #1 after 19 and a quality start but no decision.


yeah they should add "decisions" in their somewhere. "wins in 20 straight decisions," maybe.

/insert requisite argument about the usefulness of the win stat for pitchers
 
2020-08-15 4:20:29 PM  

virulent_loser: ntropy2012: Wait. The article says he was "pulled from his previous start while one strike away from a win." Can a stats guy help me out, because to me that means he didn't get the win, and therefore this is #1 after 19 and a quality start but no decision.

yeah they should add "decisions" in their somewhere. "wins in 20 straight decisions," maybe.

/insert requisite argument about the usefulness of the win stat for pitchers


omg I farked up there/their. I'm going to go hide somewhere in shame.
 
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