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(KIRO-7 Seattle)   Seattle brewery puts anti-police messages on beer. Of course, since they're IPAs it could also mean 'All Cans Are Bitter'   (kiro7.com) divider line
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2020-08-14 1:26:13 PM  
35 votes:

FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.


Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.
 
2020-08-14 1:28:35 PM  
28 votes:
FTFA: "Around the country, several are brewing their own versions of a beer that shares a single label that reads "Black is Beautiful."

Craft Malt Liquor?

/runs away
 
2020-08-14 1:03:48 PM  
25 votes:
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2020-08-14 1:23:33 PM  
24 votes:
Sounds like I know which brewery to burglarize in Seattle.
 
2020-08-14 1:46:23 PM  
17 votes:
IPA = If Pinecones were Alcohol:

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2020-08-14 1:28:00 PM  
12 votes:

The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.


Well, you're wrong.
 
2020-08-14 1:53:19 PM  
11 votes:
They wont stay in businesses for long...
 
2020-08-14 2:08:03 PM  
10 votes:
In these times, it's important to remember why blue lives matter.
 
2020-08-14 1:52:09 PM  
9 votes:

Petey4335: FLMountainMan: Sounds like I know which brewery to burglarize in Seattle.

So what you are saying is the police have discriminatory practices? And you are ok with this?


The joke was intended either way you want it.  You can clutch your pearls and admire my brave statement that the fascist corrupt cops would intentionally let this place burn to the ground, or you can smugly cheer at the idea that cops wouldn't bother to do their damn hob and let the owner get what he deserves.  I don't care either way.  Your opinion isn't going to change.

Now, if I were to say that I know the brewery to walk into while open carrying, order a pint of ACAB beer and piss all over the place as I did it, you might infer that I'm making a statement that police are a necessary evil and that you'd be better off trying to make realistic changes (like making them easier to fire (i.e., abolish police unions), paying them more to attract better candidates, and focus on recruiting more minorities) than demonizing and defunding them so that the quality of officer deteriorates.

Getting rid of all police is stupid and unrealistic and usually said by people who never have a need for their services.
 
2020-08-14 1:38:12 PM  
9 votes:

chaoswolf: special20: FTFA: "Around the country, several are brewing their own versions of a beer that shares a single label that reads "Black is Beautiful."

Craft Malt Liquor?

/runs away

Could just be a good stout.

Yes, all cops are bad. Or biatches. Or bastards. Or racist scrotum-walkers. Whatever. They all suck because they all allow their blue line bullshiat to keep the evil rampant.

There are no good cops. Not in this country.


Do you actually know any police officers?
 
2020-08-14 2:14:33 PM  
8 votes:
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2020-08-14 2:05:23 PM  
7 votes:
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2020-08-14 1:55:14 PM  
7 votes:

fragMasterFlash: I tend to give a hallpass to the older seemingly mellow cops but I can't stand the skinhead ex-mil cops with Punisher tats and an agressive "come at me, bro" attitude in every situation. I suppose I should quit giving the former a pass since they seem perfectly fine with the latter.


t = (1/n [h]) * 1/s

t = trustworthiness of the cop
n = diameter of their neck
h = length of their hair
s = number of skull decals/tats/patches

Hard to calculate while pulling over AND emptying your beer out the window, but it's a sound forumla.
 
2020-08-14 1:32:52 PM  
7 votes:

special20: FTFA: "Around the country, several are brewing their own versions of a beer that shares a single label that reads "Black is Beautiful."

Craft Malt Liquor?

/runs away


Could just be a good stout.

Yes, all cops are bad. Or biatches. Or bastards. Or racist scrotum-walkers. Whatever. They all suck because they all allow their blue line bullshiat to keep the evil rampant.

There are no good cops. Not in this country.
 
2020-08-14 1:29:12 PM  
7 votes:
I know the owner. Marched w/ him during a BLM march. He's good people.

/I'm sure some of you jerks will flame me for saying that.
//Don't care
 
2020-08-14 1:59:32 PM  
6 votes:
And if all cops are bastards, then I hope you guys "keep it real" and never call 911 for a situation that would usually call for law enforcement.
 
2020-08-14 1:55:24 PM  
6 votes:
I support the police.  That said having been a cop I can honestly say that the best thing you can do to support the police is to remove the bottom third of officers who are racist, violate people's rights, or who fail to live up to the moral obligations that we deserve from police.

By an amazing coincidence these also tend to be the dumbest guys in every department, who screw up other officers' investigations, sexually harasse the female staff, and escalate routine calls into dangerous confrontations for mot just the public, but also all the other cops.
 
2020-08-14 1:31:34 PM  
6 votes:
I want my beer to generate opinions, not come with its own.
 
2020-08-14 1:22:34 PM  
6 votes:
Dempster wrote, "if it means someone won't buy my beer anymore, good. The beer was not created for them. I make my beer for folks who are actively anti-racist, anti-Trump, anti-fascist and pro-equality."

Damn I don't drink beer but I may have to find some to support this kind of stand.
 
2020-08-14 1:22:21 PM  
6 votes:
oh know...cops who are offended will only have 10's of thousands of other kinds of beers to choose from...this is an outrage.
 
2020-08-14 5:54:49 PM  
5 votes:
ARE COPS ALL BAD ?

NO, THE ANSWER IS NO.
 
2020-08-14 2:55:05 PM  
5 votes:

Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole: Dempster wrote, "if it means someone won't buy my beer anymore, good. The beer was not created for them. I make my beer for folks who are actively anti-racist, anti-Trump, anti-fascist and pro-equality."

Damn I don't drink beer but I may have to find some to support this kind of stand.


I can see the conservatives losing their shiat already...

"THE OFFICIAL BEER OF ANTIFA!"

Hopefully they have insurance on their property, and can protect themselves as well. Conservative snowflakes don't like it when people stand up.
 
2020-08-14 2:36:46 PM  
5 votes:

neapoi: The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.

I love you like a brother from another mother. I'd like to gently suggest that while there may be one or two good hearts in uniform, American policing by in large is farked.


Reforms are needed...I completely agree with that.

Side note:

I have a friend in the Seattle PD, and he is nowhere close to Fark's stereotype that police officers are racist goons.
 
2020-08-14 2:12:42 PM  
5 votes:

whidbey: FLMountainMan: "I can't debate policy because then I have to deviate from my script".

Democrats can support police union reform without "dropping support."

You knew that was what i meant, right?


There we go!  73 comments in, and an ACAB supporter actually has a policy solution!  Good.
 
2020-08-14 2:09:19 PM  
5 votes:

Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole: FLMountainMan: And attacking them on Fark isn't going to get us to your cop-free nirvana either?

Nobody, I repeat nobody wants cop-free America.  We need to root out all the shiatstains and start fresh.


You can't just have a Purge night/week/month/year until we get the police force composed of 100% right-thinking people.  So again, what's the actual policy solution?

There are bad cops because:
1. Bad cops are hard to fire because of the terms of their employment.
2. Bad cops are also hard to fire because of the reluctance of their peers to inform on them because they work in a dangerous job where your peers literally have your life in their hands.

Doing anything without addressing the terms of the employment will just give you a bunch of rookie cops who can't be disciplined.
Continue to demonizing them will just make problem two worse by reinforcing the us vs. them mindset.
 
2020-08-14 2:05:35 PM  
5 votes:

FlyinS: ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.

Well, you're wrong.


All ____ are bastards.

Filling in the blank just depends on your point of view. Either way that sentence is ignorant and blanket regardless of what you choose.
 
2020-08-14 1:54:06 PM  
5 votes:
If it baits the "Blue Lives Matter" dipshiats into spewing their bile and hatred, I'm OK with this.
 
2020-08-14 1:48:05 PM  
5 votes:
this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog
 
2020-08-14 1:42:40 PM  
5 votes:

The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.


No, it really isn't. American style police forces are part of a fascist organization. Police are not only allowed but encouraged and trained to lie as an example. Even if in your private life you're a decent person when you put that uniform on and follow the rules of the organization you become someone who deprives people of life and liberty without repercussions. So yes, All Cops Are Bad.
 
2020-08-14 1:35:37 PM  
5 votes:

The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.


No it's not. When cops retaliate against cops that call out the injustices committed by other cops such that the whistleblower is either forced to quit or become complicit in the injustices it means All Cops Are Bad. Systemic racism is endemic to the police culture whether they want to admit to it or not, and needs to end.

Refer to the old adage 'one bad apple spoils the bunch'.
And for further edification, Bad Apple Proverbs
 
2020-08-14 1:32:46 PM  
5 votes:
I had heard it is as "All Cops are Bad", but either way, the message is true.

As has been said many times before: There are good cops and bad cops, the problem is that bad cops look like good cops until its too late.  So, you must assume they are all bad until they prove otherwise.
 
2020-08-14 3:51:42 PM  
4 votes:

The_Sponge: ace in your face: The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x531]

Not only is this meme clearly racist (not shocked from the likes of you), but it also ignores the fact that police should be under a stronger obligation to protect people, with accountability,  than violent insane criminals who have not been called to do that job.

But regardless, why don't you put Tamir Rice in your racist meme?

It's not racist, but it says a lot about the media.


It is racist. It's using a black man as a prop against a white boy instead of facing the reality that murders are committed every day.
 
2020-08-14 2:49:19 PM  
4 votes:

The_Sponge: Pushing out a black woman who served as Seattle's Chief of Police didn't help.


Dude, you know why she had to resign, don't be disingenuous.
 
2020-08-14 2:13:37 PM  
4 votes:

JesseL: The_Sponge: And if all cops are bastards, then I hope you guys "keep it real" and never call 911 for a situation that would usually call for law enforcement.

What situation would that be? Any emergency I could have will either be better handled by someone else or it will be over before anyone else can get there. I don't need people with guns to save me, I've got a huge stack of my own.

If I call it will only be because my insurance wants a copy of a police report.


What situation?

Witnessing an assault, rape, burglary, hit and run accident, serious road rage, etc.

And you already know that I am pro-Second Amendment AF, but the reality is that I don't carry most days, and even if I did, there would still be situations where I would still call 911 and ask for law enforcement.
 
2020-08-14 2:08:45 PM  
4 votes:

FLMountainMan: "I can't debate policy because then I have to deviate from my script".


Democrats can support police union reform without "dropping support."

You knew that was what i meant, right?
 
2020-08-14 1:57:51 PM  
4 votes:

gar1013: There are plenty of other shiatty over-hopped craft brews to drink, so whatever.

Seriously, try some good beer from foreign countries, and then try your local craft brewery. Notice how many of the local people think the hops level needs to be turned to 11?

It's like garlic. People in the US overuse it to obscene levels compared to places like Italy.


I'm in the middle...Love my American IPAs and Czech pilsners.

And I need to say this again:

The trend of "juicy" IPAs needs to stop.
 
2020-08-14 1:43:32 PM  
4 votes:

FLMountainMan: Sounds like I know which brewery to burglarize in Seattle.


So what you are saying is the police have discriminatory practices? And you are ok with this?
 
2020-08-14 1:43:00 PM  
4 votes:

FLMountainMan: chaoswolf: special20: FTFA: "Around the country, several are brewing their own versions of a beer that shares a single label that reads "Black is Beautiful."

Craft Malt Liquor?

/runs away

Could just be a good stout.

Yes, all cops are bad. Or biatches. Or bastards. Or racist scrotum-walkers. Whatever. They all suck because they all allow their blue line bullshiat to keep the evil rampant.

There are no good cops. Not in this country.

Do you actually know any police officers?


sure as shiat not on purpose!
 
2020-08-14 1:35:33 PM  
4 votes:
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2020-08-15 12:15:50 AM  
3 votes:

The_Sponge: inglixthemad: The_Sponge: inglixthemad: The_Sponge: inglixthemad: Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole: Dempster wrote, "if it means someone won't buy my beer anymore, good. The beer was not created for them. I make my beer for folks who are actively anti-racist, anti-Trump, anti-fascist and pro-equality."

Damn I don't drink beer but I may have to find some to support this kind of stand.

I can see the conservatives losing their shiat already...

"THE OFFICIAL BEER OF ANTIFA!"

Hopefully they have insurance on their property, and can protect themselves as well. Conservative snowflakes don't like it when people stand up.

By "stand up" do you mean assault, battery, vandalism, and looting?

You mean those beers are guilty of assault, battery, vandalism, and looting? Wow. That couple has some mad skillz.

You said "when people stand up".

There are beers that have kicked my ass, but I didn't feel it until the next morning.

I know conservatives hate to admit it, but the those opposing them are people as well. Just because you don't like the couple's stand on the beer they make doesn't mean you get to marginalize them as not being people.

1) I'm not marginalizing anyone.

2) My local beer shop continues to sell their beer, and I'm still going to remain a customer.  I just won't buy that brand.

/Had their beers in the past.
//And even before this happened, I preferred other brands.


Yes you did. The couple stood up, put their money where their mouth / beliefs are, and you compared them to criminal boogaloos filling up molotovs. That's disingenuous and dehumanizing, which is par for the conservative playbook.
 
2020-08-14 3:49:39 PM  
3 votes:

The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x531]


Not only is this meme clearly racist (not shocked from the likes of you), but it also ignores the fact that police should be under a stronger obligation to protect people, with accountability,  than violent insane criminals who have not been called to do that job.

But regardless, why don't you put Tamir Rice in your racist meme?
 
2020-08-14 3:31:18 PM  
3 votes:
I'm not going to do this because I don't fancy a trip to the hospital but I have a huge desire to wander through Seattle and add AB to the start of all the ACAB graffiti.
 
2020-08-14 2:39:39 PM  
3 votes:

JesseL: The_Sponge: JesseL: The_Sponge: And if all cops are bastards, then I hope you guys "keep it real" and never call 911 for a situation that would usually call for law enforcement.

What situation would that be? Any emergency I could have will either be better handled by someone else or it will be over before anyone else can get there. I don't need people with guns to save me, I've got a huge stack of my own.

If I call it will only be because my insurance wants a copy of a police report.

What situation?

Witnessing an assault, rape, burglary, hit and run accident, serious road rage, etc.

And you already know that I am pro-Second Amendment AF, but the reality is that I don't carry most days, and even if I did, there would still be situations where I would still call 911 and ask for law enforcement.

Every one of those situations I'd either help myself, or it's just not worth the chance that the police would make it worse. There's none of them they'd actually make better.


None?

Okay....how about the hit and run situation?

I could follow the other vehicle, get their license number, and give their location to law enforcement.

And even if I can't follow that car, and least I could give them the license plate info so they can track down the perp.

And the situation is improved because the hot and run driver will be arrested.
 
2020-08-14 2:16:57 PM  
3 votes:
Stunt to get stoopid people to by their shiatty beer.
 
2020-08-14 2:07:50 PM  
3 votes:

the voice of raisin: ace in your face: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

It's adorable you think police have anything to do with whether or not Trump will be arrested.

Ahh, I sense a Pro 2A-vigilante justice type here.

seems like you and the NRA might have a lot in common


Trump has already admitted crimes in front of the whole world and exactly jack shiat happened to him. Additionally, the Attorney General of the US is quite clearly corrupt and protecting him. There is no way any cop, local or federal, is going to touch Donald Trump. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream
 
2020-08-14 2:07:32 PM  
3 votes:

iamskibibitz: FlyinS: ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.

Well, you're wrong.

All ____ are bastards.

Filling in the blank just depends on your point of view. Either way that sentence is ignorant and blanket regardless of what you choose.


Well, you're wrong.
 
2020-08-14 2:01:11 PM  
3 votes:

ace in your face: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

It's adorable you think police have anything to do with whether or not Trump will be arrested.


Ahh, I sense a Pro 2A-vigilante justice type here.

seems like you and the NRA might have a lot in common
 
2020-08-14 2:01:00 PM  
3 votes:

FLMountainMan: whidbey: winedrinkingman: I support the police.  That said having been a cop I can honestly say that the best thing you can do to support the police is to remove the bottom third of officers who are racist, violate people's rights, or who fail to live up to the moral obligations that we deserve from police.

By an amazing coincidence these also tend to be the dumbest guys in every department, who screw up other officers' investigations, sexually harasse the female staff, and escalate routine calls into dangerous confrontations for mot just the public, but also all the other cops.

And then there are the unions....

The unions enable them.  I would suggest that for this field, Democrats should drop their support of unions.


I would suggest you not twist comments by putting them through your Democrat Hate Machine, but you wouldn't be you, now would you?
 
2020-08-14 1:57:38 PM  
3 votes:

JesseL: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

All cops don't have to be bastards. It just happens that they currently are.

It's no great stretch to imagine current systems being replaced in function and employing people that aren't bastards.

Did you really think you had some kind of clever *gotcha* there?


good luck hiring 100,000 new police to replace the ones you say are bastards in the next few months.
 
2020-08-14 1:55:37 PM  
3 votes:

JesseL: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

All cops don't have to be bastards. It just happens that they currently are.

It's no great stretch to imagine current systems being replaced in function and employing people that aren't bastards.

Did you really think you had some kind of clever *gotcha* there?


But if they were truly evil, wouldn't they just let all the actual criminals go free, 100% of the time?
Also, Hitler was nice to dogs! And made the trains run on time! If he was really evil, would he do that??
 
2020-08-14 1:55:31 PM  
3 votes:

JesseL: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

All cops don't have to be bastards. It just happens that they currently are.

It's no great stretch to imagine current systems being replaced in function and employing people that aren't bastards.

Did you really think you had some kind of clever *gotcha* there?


So how do you think this will happen?  What's the game plan other than saying "cops R dicks HURHURHUR"?
 
2020-08-14 1:52:11 PM  
3 votes:

ace in your face: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

It's adorable you think police have anything to do with whether or not Trump will be arrested.


the FBI are police.  you know that, right?
 
2020-08-14 1:47:15 PM  
3 votes:
with some customers saying they'll no longer buy the beer.

Sensitive right-wing snowflakes trying to invoke their Republican cancel-culture again.
Funny thing about Republican cancel culture is it never works.
 
2020-08-14 1:42:29 PM  
3 votes:

The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.


If all cops protect bad cops, does that mean all cops are bad cops?
Most of us have a strong opinion about that - usually based on experience.
 
2020-08-14 10:19:01 PM  
2 votes:

rigo412: TL/DR: good cops outnumber bad cops; reforms are needed improvements, and shouldn't be viewed negatively.


Reform hasn't worked.  You've had 200 years to get your shiat in order.
 
2020-08-14 5:48:21 PM  
2 votes:
amateur hour, can't even put his offensive message on the label

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2020-08-14 5:20:39 PM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.


No it isn't.

Even if all cops are not actively oppressing people, I don't see marches or demonstrations by the "good" cops, I don't see them publicly pushing to prosecute wrongdoing by bad officers, I don't see an outburst of them reporting their abusive peers.  I see their union -- which represents all of them -- supporting Trump and actively protecting murdering and abusing cops.

Silence is complicity.  Evil wins when good people do nothing.  In fact when the wrongdoing is so blatant, and so visible, and they make the active choice to do nothing, then I wouldn't even call them "good people".  It is more like depraved indifference, which is a crime.
 
2020-08-14 5:10:34 PM  
2 votes:

CheekyMonkey: gar1013: There are plenty of other shiatty over-hopped craft brews to drink, so whatever.

Seriously, try some good beer from foreign countries, and then try your local craft brewery. Notice how many of the local people think the hops level needs to be turned to 11?

Don't like hops?  Then don't drink *those styles of beer that are highly-hopped*.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know  that if you order and IPA, the flavor is going to be hop-forward.  And, many craft breweries put the hop level (in IBUs) right on the goddamn label, so it's pretty easy to pick a beer that you'll likely enjoy.  But you go on and keep railing against "overhopping" as if it isn't an easily-avoided non-issue.

It's like garlic. People in the US overuse it to obscene levels compared to places like Italy.

Suck it.  I love garlic.  I'll use as much of it as I want.  Who cares how much "they" use in "places like Italy".  There are plenty of cuisines which historically use lots more garlic than Italy.  Regions in India and China come to mind.

Your entire post is <stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg>


You sound like an overly bitter craft brewer.

Even non-IPAs are over hopped in most cases.

As for garlic, I'm sorry your taste buds are so dysfunctional as to require you to overpower food with garlic.

Over using hops and garlic ranks up there with putting ranch on everything. It's just grotesque and proof of the idea that just because you can doesn't mean you should.
 
2020-08-14 4:11:26 PM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: JesseL: The_Sponge: JesseL: The_Sponge: [Fark user image 425x531]

Was that shooter an agent of the state, given qualified immunity, and immediately defended by... anyone?

Did people immediately start digging into the child's past to figure out why he probably deserved to get shot?

No, but it was probably a hate crime.

If there's any evidence of that, I'm sure it will be prosecuted as such.

But so what? People commit all kinds of hate crimes all the time and it usually makes some kind of news.

Are you upset that there aren't massive protests against that guy? They got him. He'll probably go to prison for a long time.

Nobody was even sure that George Floyd's murderers would even be arrested after they were recorded in the act. Lots of people still think they should go free, because they think cops should literally get away with anything.

I'm with you on that...they should not be let free.


So what point was the image supposed to make? There's no equivalency whatsoever. All it looks like is "Hey people got all upset about this black guy, but not this white kid. Reverse racism!!!1".

It's not a good look.
 
2020-08-14 3:59:12 PM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: Thunderboy: FlyinS: The_Sponge: ace in your face: The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x531]

Not only is this meme clearly racist (not shocked from the likes of you), but it also ignores the fact that police should be under a stronger obligation to protect people, with accountability,  than violent insane criminals who have not been called to do that job.

But regardless, why don't you put Tamir Rice in your racist meme?

It's not racist, but it says a lot about the media.

It only says a lot about the racists that share it as if it's some "gotcha"

You must understand, racists are not intelligent people.

Agreed.  And thankfully, I'm not racist.


Yeah. You are.
 
2020-08-14 3:58:07 PM  
2 votes:

Thunderboy: FlyinS: The_Sponge: ace in your face: The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x531]

Not only is this meme clearly racist (not shocked from the likes of you), but it also ignores the fact that police should be under a stronger obligation to protect people, with accountability,  than violent insane criminals who have not been called to do that job.

But regardless, why don't you put Tamir Rice in your racist meme?

It's not racist, but it says a lot about the media.

It only says a lot about the racists that share it as if it's some "gotcha"

You must understand, racists are not intelligent people.


Agreed.  And thankfully, I'm not racist.
 
2020-08-14 3:51:56 PM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: ace in your face: The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x531]

Not only is this meme clearly racist (not shocked from the likes of you), but it also ignores the fact that police should be under a stronger obligation to protect people, with accountability,  than violent insane criminals who have not been called to do that job.

But regardless, why don't you put Tamir Rice in your racist meme?

It's not racist, but it says a lot about the media.


It only says a lot about the racists that share it as if it's some "gotcha"
 
2020-08-14 3:50:12 PM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x531]


Weird I've seen this literally everywhere and the difference is the person was immediately apprehended and there isn't a multi million dollar funded crime organization trying to justify the shooting and get the person off. Anything to justify racism though, eh?
 
2020-08-14 3:48:52 PM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: [Fark user image 425x531]


Was that shooter an agent of the state, given qualified immunity, and immediately defended by... anyone?

Did people immediately start digging into the child's past to figure out why he probably deserved to get shot?
 
2020-08-14 2:56:45 PM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: whidbey: The_Sponge: Pushing out a black woman who served as Seattle's Chief of Police didn't help.

Dude, you know why she had to resign, don't be disingenuous.

I know exactly why....

And one of the main reasons was her pay cut...which meant that she would have made less than her white predecessor.


No you don't. You haven't mentioned "tear gas" in any of your posts.
 
2020-08-14 2:52:42 PM  
2 votes:

Thunderboy: asciibaron: bluejeansonfire:
No police is better than barbaric murdering savage demon police, so it'll be worth it either way.

how many police officers are there in the US and how many citizens have been murdered by a police officer in the performance of their duty each year?

Also, police are citizens and civilians. Using language that implies they somehow transcend either category is bootlicker 101.


sorry, i meant civilian.  you can unbunch your underwear.
 
2020-08-14 2:52:02 PM  
2 votes:

whidbey: The_Sponge: Pushing out a black woman who served as Seattle's Chief of Police didn't help.

Dude, you know why she had to resign, don't be disingenuous.


I know exactly why....

And one of the main reasons was her pay cut...which meant that she would have made less than her white predecessor.
 
2020-08-14 2:43:57 PM  
2 votes:

gar1013: There are plenty of other shiatty over-hopped craft brews to drink, so whatever.

Seriously, try some good beer from foreign countries, and then try your local craft brewery. Notice how many of the local people think the hops level needs to be turned to 11?


Don't like hops?  Then don't drink *those styles of beer that are highly-hopped*.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know  that if you order and IPA, the flavor is going to be hop-forward.  And, many craft breweries put the hop level (in IBUs) right on the goddamn label, so it's pretty easy to pick a beer that you'll likely enjoy.  But you go on and keep railing against "overhopping" as if it isn't an easily-avoided non-issue.

It's like garlic. People in the US overuse it to obscene levels compared to places like Italy.

Suck it.  I love garlic.  I'll use as much of it as I want.  Who cares how much "they" use in "places like Italy".  There are plenty of cuisines which historically use lots more garlic than Italy.  Regions in India and China come to mind.

Your entire post is <stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg>
 
2020-08-14 2:42:22 PM  
2 votes:

grimlock1972: FlyinS: The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.

Well, you're wrong.

Until good cops stop protecting bad cops he isn't wrong.


That's really the point of the acronym.

If you are enabling a system which murders unarmed black men, you are part of the problem and you should be pushing for whatever it takes to end that perception.
 
2020-08-14 2:35:19 PM  
2 votes:

asciibaron: bluejeansonfire:
No police is better than barbaric murdering savage demon police, so it'll be worth it either way.

how many police officers are there in the US and how many citizens have been murdered by a police officer in the performance of their duty each year?


Aw shiat. Now you've done it. Heads will be exploding. What a mess.
 
2020-08-14 2:20:10 PM  
2 votes:
If you want to see what places look like without police let me suggest you move to Darfur.
 
2020-08-14 2:19:32 PM  
2 votes:

KidKorporate: Hey let's try it.  No cops, no courts, no jails.  The situation will sort itself out eventually, but probably not in the manner you envisioned.


Yeah let's try making totally strawman arguments because you don't understand what "defund the police" means.
 
2020-08-14 2:18:34 PM  
2 votes:

KidKorporate: Hey let's try it.  No cops, no courts, no jails.  The situation will sort itself out eventually, but probably not in the manner you envisioned.


It's almost like that's not actually the solution being proposed and this is just the saddest strawman argument I ever saw

/if you only had a brain
 
2020-08-14 2:16:47 PM  
2 votes:
Hey let's try it.  No cops, no courts, no jails.  The situation will sort itself out eventually, but probably not in the manner you envisioned.
 
2020-08-14 2:15:56 PM  
2 votes:

lenfromak: [Fark user image image 378x378]


I have one on my phone, so I guess I'm already doing this.
 
2020-08-14 2:10:04 PM  
2 votes:

FLMountainMan: JesseL: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

All cops don't have to be bastards. It just happens that they currently are.

It's no great stretch to imagine current systems being replaced in function and employing people that aren't bastards.

Did you really think you had some kind of clever *gotcha* there?

So how do you think this will happen?  What's the game plan other than saying "cops R dicks HURHURHUR"?


https://www.versobooks.com/books/2426​-​the-end-of-policing
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2020-08-14 2:09:42 PM  
2 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: [kiro7.com image 333x174]


[i.dailymail.co.uk image 333x389]

[deanblundell.com image 331x326]


I expect brewers to be overweight and have beards.
 
2020-08-14 2:08:40 PM  
2 votes:

asciibaron: JesseL: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

All cops don't have to be bastards. It just happens that they currently are.

It's no great stretch to imagine current systems being replaced in function and employing people that aren't bastards.

Did you really think you had some kind of clever *gotcha* there?

good luck hiring 100,000 new police to replace the ones you say are bastards in the next few months.


No police is better than barbaric murdering savage demon police, so it'll be worth it either way.
 
2020-08-14 2:04:28 PM  
2 votes:

FLMountainMan: And attacking them on Fark isn't going to get us to your cop-free nirvana either?


Nobody, I repeat nobody wants cop-free America.  We need to root out all the shiatstains and start fresh.
 
2020-08-14 1:47:12 PM  
2 votes:

FLMountainMan: chaoswolf: special20: FTFA: "Around the country, several are brewing their own versions of a beer that shares a single label that reads "Black is Beautiful."

Craft Malt Liquor?

/runs away

Could just be a good stout.

Yes, all cops are bad. Or biatches. Or bastards. Or racist scrotum-walkers. Whatever. They all suck because they all allow their blue line bullshiat to keep the evil rampant.

There are no good cops. Not in this country.

Do you actually know any police officers?


I know several. Related to a couple, and I love them.

But they're still bastards. They're active participants in a deeply broken system and they're not trying to fix it.
 
2020-08-14 1:43:29 PM  
2 votes:

FLMountainMan: chaoswolf: special20: FTFA: "Around the country, several are brewing their own versions of a beer that shares a single label that reads "Black is Beautiful."

Craft Malt Liquor?

/runs away

Could just be a good stout.

Yes, all cops are bad. Or biatches. Or bastards. Or racist scrotum-walkers. Whatever. They all suck because they all allow their blue line bullshiat to keep the evil rampant.

There are no good cops. Not in this country.

Do you actually know any police officers?


Yeah, hundreds. Worked at the Chicago OEMC for a while. You'd shiat yourself hearing some of the stories they tell.
 
2020-08-14 1:43:20 PM  
2 votes:
ACAB....All Cops Are Bastards...

"It's not about individual police officers; it's about a system. But I think to the casual observer, it seems like an attack on individual police officers - all cops..."

That's what it means when you choose the word "all", dumbass.
 
2020-08-14 1:33:26 PM  
2 votes:
There are plenty of other shiatty over-hopped craft brews to drink, so whatever.

Seriously, try some good beer from foreign countries, and then try your local craft brewery. Notice how many of the local people think the hops level needs to be turned to 11?

It's like garlic. People in the US overuse it to obscene levels compared to places like Italy.
 
2020-08-15 7:23:33 AM  
1 vote:

FLMountainMan: Getting rid of all police is stupid and unrealistic and usually said by people who never have a need for their services.


In all my 50+ years on this earth, I have never needed a farking cop.
 
2020-08-15 1:52:26 AM  
1 vote:
his facebook page looks like his mugshot...
 
2020-08-15 12:37:57 AM  
1 vote:

zombietheclown: WTP 2: ARE COPS ALL BAD ?

NO, THE ANSWER IS NO.

They are when they join together to defend when their colleagues commit heinous crimes.
They are when they cover / ignore their colleagues committing heinous crimes.
They are when they're represented by a union that will defend the most disgusting actions of its members.
They are when leadership fires officers from daring to cross "the blue line" to speak out against officers acting inappropriately


Sounds like the teachers union... I wonder what they have in common?
 
2020-08-14 10:52:04 PM  
1 vote:
and for all the picking on i got, no one said that cops fit the "gang" checklist...
same colors
carry weapons
hang out in groups
have a territory to protect

/we are supposed to come here for a laugh at anything, no matter what.
//as many have guessed i am pro cop, so
///i have gotten tickets, i deserved them. i was speeding. i did not question why i was getting them.
 
2020-08-14 9:01:47 PM  
1 vote:

gar1013: It's like garlic. People in the US overuse it to obscene levels compared to places like Italy.


You shut your whore mouth right now.
 
2020-08-14 8:57:49 PM  
1 vote:
Brewer "Help we're being robbed".
911 "Sorry all the bastards say they're busy.
 
2020-08-14 6:25:42 PM  
1 vote:

fanbladesaresharp: Peter Weyland: I had heard it is as "All Cops are Bad", but either way, the message is true.

As has been said many times before: There are good cops and bad cops, the problem is that bad cops look like good cops until its too late.  So, you must assume they are all bad until they prove otherwise.

So guilty until proven innocent is preferable? Do you also feel the same way about our criminal justice system?


Are you being this dense on purpose?

[The brewer] might want to be informed that ACAB has roots in the white skinheads crowd.

So all skinheads are white nationalists?  Didn't you just give somebody shiat about "guilty until proven innocent?"
 
2020-08-14 6:12:23 PM  
1 vote:

Peter Weyland: I had heard it is as "All Cops are Bad", but either way, the message is true.

As has been said many times before: There are good cops and bad cops, the problem is that bad cops look like good cops until its too late.  So, you must assume they are all bad until they prove otherwise.


So guilty until proven innocent is preferable? Do you also feel the same way about our criminal justice system?
 
2020-08-14 6:00:06 PM  
1 vote:

WTP 2: ARE COPS ALL BAD ?

NO, THE ANSWER IS NO.


They are when they join together to defend when their colleagues commit heinous crimes.
They are when they cover / ignore their colleagues committing heinous crimes.
They are when they're represented by a union that will defend the most disgusting actions of its members.
They are when leadership fires officers from daring to cross "the blue line" to speak out against officers acting inappropriately
 
2020-08-14 4:37:26 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: CheekyMonkey: whidbey: CheekyMonkey: To be fair, "defund the police" is a dumb slogan.

Low-information persons will always build a strawman based on the most simplistic meaning of the words.

I love this suggestion that we should always dumb everything down so the dumbassess won't get mad.

Like people whose minds are already made up are going to get a clue somehow.

And yet, you're complaining about someone not understanding "the real meaning" of "defund the police".

/KISS is an excellent guiding principle

"Defund the police" is simple.

You want us to kiss right wing ass and dumb everything down in the hope that they might respond in good faith argument.

Let me laugh harder.


Oh, I dont want you to do anything. I'm content to watch it all burn down.
It will validate my low opinion of humanity.
 
2020-08-14 4:16:52 PM  
1 vote:
Friendly reminder that worrying about Nazis getting "censored" and condemning the exclusion of fascists from spaces as "fascist censorship" is called "sympathizing with Nazis" and is rightfully frowned upon in most communities.
 
2020-08-14 4:15:36 PM  
1 vote:

CheekyMonkey: whidbey: CheekyMonkey: To be fair, "defund the police" is a dumb slogan.

Low-information persons will always build a strawman based on the most simplistic meaning of the words.

I love this suggestion that we should always dumb everything down so the dumbassess won't get mad.

Like people whose minds are already made up are going to get a clue somehow.

And yet, you're complaining about someone not understanding "the real meaning" of "defund the police".

/KISS is an excellent guiding principle


"Defund the police" is simple.

You want us to kiss right wing ass and dumb everything down in the hope that they might respond in good faith argument.

Let me laugh harder.
 
2020-08-14 4:00:28 PM  
1 vote:

FlyinS: The_Sponge: Thunderboy: FlyinS: The_Sponge: ace in your face: The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x531]

Not only is this meme clearly racist (not shocked from the likes of you), but it also ignores the fact that police should be under a stronger obligation to protect people, with accountability,  than violent insane criminals who have not been called to do that job.

But regardless, why don't you put Tamir Rice in your racist meme?

It's not racist, but it says a lot about the media.

It only says a lot about the racists that share it as if it's some "gotcha"

You must understand, racists are not intelligent people.

Agreed.  And thankfully, I'm not racist.

Yeah. You are.


Mention one racist thing I posted in this thread.  And a pic that points out media hypocrisy doesn't count.
 
2020-08-14 3:54:12 PM  
1 vote:

chaoswolf: special20: FTFA: "Around the country, several are brewing their own versions of a beer that shares a single label that reads "Black is Beautiful."

Craft Malt Liquor?

/runs away

Could just be a good stout.

Yes, all cops are bad. Or biatches. Or bastards. Or racist scrotum-walkers. Whatever. They all suck because they all allow their blue line bullshiat to keep the evil rampant.

There are no good cops. Not in this country.


The ones that didn't shoot me, or take me to jail are ok.
 
2020-08-14 3:51:46 PM  
1 vote:

JesseL: The_Sponge: [Fark user image 425x531]

Was that shooter an agent of the state, given qualified immunity, and immediately defended by... anyone?

Did people immediately start digging into the child's past to figure out why he probably deserved to get shot?


No, but it was probably a hate crime.
 
2020-08-14 3:50:41 PM  
1 vote:

ace in your face: The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x531]

Not only is this meme clearly racist (not shocked from the likes of you), but it also ignores the fact that police should be under a stronger obligation to protect people, with accountability,  than violent insane criminals who have not been called to do that job.

But regardless, why don't you put Tamir Rice in your racist meme?


It's not racist, but it says a lot about the media.
 
2020-08-14 3:41:34 PM  
1 vote:

The_Sponge: FlyinS: The_Sponge: FlyinS: The_Sponge: inglixthemad: Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole: Dempster wrote, "if it means someone won't buy my beer anymore, good. The beer was not created for them. I make my beer for folks who are actively anti-racist, anti-Trump, anti-fascist and pro-equality."

Damn I don't drink beer but I may have to find some to support this kind of stand.

I can see the conservatives losing their shiat already...

"THE OFFICIAL BEER OF ANTIFA!"

Hopefully they have insurance on their property, and can protect themselves as well. Conservative snowflakes don't like it when people stand up.

By "stand up" do you mean assault, battery, vandalism, and looting?

Yes, the cops are engaging in all of those activities.

And what about the other side?  They were doing all those things in Seattle....attacking businesses that my had NOTHING to do with George Floyd.

Childish whataboutism notwithstanding, maybe you can let me know where those people are our paid employees charged with being peace officers of the law?

https://youtu.be/sb9_qGOa9Go

No argument would suffice for you, it doesn't taste like cop boot enough to satisfy you. Also your friend in the PD is just as bad as any of them.

Wow...judging a person without even knowing a single thing about him.  How ignorant.


Must have missed the report where the one hero cop in the Seattle PD was opposing the brutality, harassment, and violence perpetrated by their colleagues, denouncing the systemic racism, and calling for those officers to be removed and prosecuted. Loudly, publicly and transparently. Refusing to engage in unconstitutional activities and protecting any peaceful protestors with their voice and body.

I'll wait.
 
2020-08-14 3:32:01 PM  
1 vote:

The_Sponge: FlyinS: The_Sponge: inglixthemad: Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole: Dempster wrote, "if it means someone won't buy my beer anymore, good. The beer was not created for them. I make my beer for folks who are actively anti-racist, anti-Trump, anti-fascist and pro-equality."

Damn I don't drink beer but I may have to find some to support this kind of stand.

I can see the conservatives losing their shiat already...

"THE OFFICIAL BEER OF ANTIFA!"

Hopefully they have insurance on their property, and can protect themselves as well. Conservative snowflakes don't like it when people stand up.

By "stand up" do you mean assault, battery, vandalism, and looting?

Yes, the cops are engaging in all of those activities.

And what about the other side?  They were doing all those things in Seattle....attacking businesses that my had NOTHING to do with George Floyd.


Childish whataboutism notwithstanding, maybe you can let me know where those people are our paid employees charged with being peace officers of the law?

https://youtu.be/sb9_qGOa9Go

No argument would suffice for you, it doesn't taste like cop boot enough to satisfy you. Also your friend in the PD is just as bad as any of them.
 
2020-08-14 3:22:20 PM  
1 vote:

inglixthemad: The_Sponge: inglixthemad: The_Sponge: inglixthemad: Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole: Dempster wrote, "if it means someone won't buy my beer anymore, good. The beer was not created for them. I make my beer for folks who are actively anti-racist, anti-Trump, anti-fascist and pro-equality."

Damn I don't drink beer but I may have to find some to support this kind of stand.

I can see the conservatives losing their shiat already...

"THE OFFICIAL BEER OF ANTIFA!"

Hopefully they have insurance on their property, and can protect themselves as well. Conservative snowflakes don't like it when people stand up.

By "stand up" do you mean assault, battery, vandalism, and looting?

You mean those beers are guilty of assault, battery, vandalism, and looting? Wow. That couple has some mad skillz.

You said "when people stand up".

There are beers that have kicked my ass, but I didn't feel it until the next morning.

I know conservatives hate to admit it, but the those opposing them are people as well. Just because you don't like the couple's stand on the beer they make doesn't mean you get to marginalize them as not being people.


1) I'm not marginalizing anyone.

2) My local beer shop continues to sell their beer, and I'm still going to remain a customer.  I just won't buy that brand.

/Had their beers in the past.
//And even before this happened, I preferred other brands.
 
2020-08-14 3:13:25 PM  
1 vote:

The_Sponge: inglixthemad: The_Sponge: inglixthemad: Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole: Dempster wrote, "if it means someone won't buy my beer anymore, good. The beer was not created for them. I make my beer for folks who are actively anti-racist, anti-Trump, anti-fascist and pro-equality."

Damn I don't drink beer but I may have to find some to support this kind of stand.

I can see the conservatives losing their shiat already...

"THE OFFICIAL BEER OF ANTIFA!"

Hopefully they have insurance on their property, and can protect themselves as well. Conservative snowflakes don't like it when people stand up.

By "stand up" do you mean assault, battery, vandalism, and looting?

You mean those beers are guilty of assault, battery, vandalism, and looting? Wow. That couple has some mad skillz.

You said "when people stand up".

There are beers that have kicked my ass, but I didn't feel it until the next morning.


I know conservatives hate to admit it, but the those opposing them are people as well. Just because you don't like the couple's stand on the beer they make doesn't mean you get to marginalize them as not being people.
 
2020-08-14 3:06:44 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: CheekyMonkey: To be fair, "defund the police" is a dumb slogan.

Low-information persons will always build a strawman based on the most simplistic meaning of the words.

I love this suggestion that we should always dumb everything down so the dumbassess won't get mad.

Like people whose minds are already made up are going to get a clue somehow.


And yet, you're complaining about someone not understanding "the real meaning" of "defund the police".

/KISS is an excellent guiding principle
 
2020-08-14 3:03:45 PM  
1 vote:

The_Sponge: inglixthemad: Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole: Dempster wrote, "if it means someone won't buy my beer anymore, good. The beer was not created for them. I make my beer for folks who are actively anti-racist, anti-Trump, anti-fascist and pro-equality."

Damn I don't drink beer but I may have to find some to support this kind of stand.

I can see the conservatives losing their shiat already...

"THE OFFICIAL BEER OF ANTIFA!"

Hopefully they have insurance on their property, and can protect themselves as well. Conservative snowflakes don't like it when people stand up.

By "stand up" do you mean assault, battery, vandalism, and looting?


You mean those beers are guilty of assault, battery, vandalism, and looting? Wow. That couple has some mad skillz.
 
2020-08-14 2:51:02 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: KidKorporate: Hey let's try it.  No cops, no courts, no jails.  The situation will sort itself out eventually, but probably not in the manner you envisioned.

Yeah let's try making totally strawman arguments because you don't understand what "defund the police" means.


To be fair, "defund the police" is a dumb slogan.  Low-information persons will always build a strawman based on the most simplistic meaning of the words.  The subtleties of the movement are forever lost to them.
 
2020-08-14 2:47:22 PM  
1 vote:

Thunderboy: asciibaron: bluejeansonfire:
No police is better than barbaric murdering savage demon police, so it'll be worth it either way.

how many police officers are there in the US and how many citizens have been murdered by a police officer in the performance of their duty each year?

What are you suggesting is the acceptable number?


no, can you read?
 
2020-08-14 2:47:07 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: grimlock1972: FlyinS: The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.

Well, you're wrong.

Until good cops stop protecting bad cops he isn't wrong.

That's really the point of the acronym.

If you are enabling a system which murders unarmed black men, you are part of the problem and you should be pushing for whatever it takes to end that perception.


Pushing out a black woman who served as Seattle's Chief of Police didn't help.
 
2020-08-14 2:40:44 PM  
1 vote:

FlyinS: The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.

Well, you're wrong.


Until good cops stop protecting bad cops he isn't wrong.
 
2020-08-14 2:40:33 PM  
1 vote:

Uncontrolled_Jibe: "Black Lives Matter"


Hmmmm, I went to their official website and did a search for "Marx" and "Marxism" and there were zero results. So, much like your orange menace, you're full of shiat.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/search/ma​rxism/
https://blacklivesmatter.com/search/ma​rx/
 
2020-08-14 2:32:16 PM  
1 vote:

FLMountainMan: whidbey: FLMountainMan: "I can't debate policy because then I have to deviate from my script".

Democrats can support police union reform without "dropping support."

You knew that was what i meant, right?

There we go!  73 comments in, and an ACAB supporter actually has a policy solution!  Good.


Because it's more or less considered universally that the police need to stop carrying the burden of anything other than keeping the peace and critical public safety needs.  Yet they're stuck dealing with shiat like homelessness and welfare issues that would be best handled by damn near anyone else routinely.

So, cut a decent amount of that funding so they only have the money to focus on their core mission and use that monetary difference to fund HUD, family services, SNAP, etc...
 
2020-08-14 2:29:57 PM  
1 vote:

The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.


I love you like a brother from another mother. I'd like to gently suggest that while there may be one or two good hearts in uniform, American policing by in large is farked.
 
2020-08-14 2:22:38 PM  
1 vote:

zippyZRX: If you want to see what places look like without police let me suggest you move to Darfur.


Libertarian paradises?  Like Somalia?
 
2020-08-14 2:21:26 PM  
1 vote:

Michael J Faux: fragMasterFlash: I tend to give a hallpass to the older seemingly mellow cops but I can't stand the skinhead ex-mil cops with Punisher tats and an agressive "come at me, bro" attitude in every situation. I suppose I should quit giving the former a pass since they seem perfectly fine with the latter.

t = (1/n [h]) * 1/s

t = trustworthiness of the cop
n = diameter of their neck
h = length of their hair
s = number of skull decals/tats/patches

Hard to calculate while pulling over AND emptying your beer out the window, but it's a sound forumla.


You would pour out perfectly chuggable beer? Delete your Fark account.

;-)
 
2020-08-14 2:19:01 PM  
1 vote:

The_Sponge: JesseL: The_Sponge: And if all cops are bastards, then I hope you guys "keep it real" and never call 911 for a situation that would usually call for law enforcement.

What situation would that be? Any emergency I could have will either be better handled by someone else or it will be over before anyone else can get there. I don't need people with guns to save me, I've got a huge stack of my own.

If I call it will only be because my insurance wants a copy of a police report.

What situation?

Witnessing an assault, rape, burglary, hit and run accident, serious road rage, etc.

And you already know that I am pro-Second Amendment AF, but the reality is that I don't carry most days, and even if I did, there would still be situations where I would still call 911 and ask for law enforcement.


Every one of those situations I'd either help myself, or it's just not worth the chance that the police would make it worse. There's none of them they'd actually make better.
 
2020-08-14 2:18:14 PM  
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djslowdive: I know the owner. Marched w/ him during a BLM march. He's good people.

/I'm sure some of you jerks will flame me for saying that.
//Don't care


So, how can he be the owner?  Shouldn't he give he means of production to the workers?  Black lives matter is something most everyone agrees with providing it's understood to not be exclusive.  "Black Lives Matter" is a Marxist organization, and is opposed to him.
 
2020-08-14 2:13:50 PM  
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bluejeansonfire:
No police is better than barbaric murdering savage demon police, so it'll be worth it either way.

how many police officers are there in the US and how many citizens have been murdered by a police officer in the performance of their duty each year?
 
2020-08-14 2:13:41 PM  
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The_Sponge: And if all cops are bastards, then I hope you guys "keep it real" and never call 911 for a situation that would usually call for law enforcement.


Let's keep it real: At no time, while I was a victim have the cops helped me when I called them. They never recovered my belongings, they didn't arrest the people who stole from me, they didn't put my rapist in jail, they mocked me and treated me poorly while I was begging to be taken to the hospital after being raped, they gave me a ticket when my car was stolen and left in the street by the idiot thief who couldn't drive a stick, and they assaulted me the time I ran to them after being assaulted. So... what the fark are they doing that I'm gonna miss? In 35 years they haven't once fixed a situation or made it better.  Sure, I might want to call them, delusionally thinking they may help, but past experience tells me they aren't going to help shiat anyway.
 
2020-08-14 2:13:06 PM  
1 vote:

IKillBugs: Bravo to them, but I prefer Saison style beers. I feel hops have become a crutch. Just add an ass load of hops to any shiatty beer, and you can sell it. Hard pass.


Haven't tried one of those yet. Maybe I should.

I'm a hardcore fan of Münchner Helles and Kölsch myself.
 
2020-08-14 2:09:30 PM  
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winedrinkingman: I support the police.  That said having been a cop I can honestly say that the best thing you can do to support the police is to remove the bottom third of officers who are racist, violate people's rights, or who fail to live up to the moral obligations that we deserve from police.

By an amazing coincidence these also tend to be the dumbest guys in every department, who screw up other officers' investigations, sexually harasse the female staff, and escalate routine calls into dangerous confrontations for mot just the public, but also all the other cops.


"bottom third"
 
2020-08-14 2:08:08 PM  
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dwrash: They wont stay in businesses for long...


They sell out of every batch. But your concern is noted.
 
2020-08-14 2:03:15 PM  
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whidbey: FLMountainMan: whidbey: winedrinkingman: I support the police.  That said having been a cop I can honestly say that the best thing you can do to support the police is to remove the bottom third of officers who are racist, violate people's rights, or who fail to live up to the moral obligations that we deserve from police.

By an amazing coincidence these also tend to be the dumbest guys in every department, who screw up other officers' investigations, sexually harasse the female staff, and escalate routine calls into dangerous confrontations for mot just the public, but also all the other cops.

And then there are the unions....

The unions enable them.  I would suggest that for this field, Democrats should drop their support of unions.

I would suggest you not twist comments by putting them through your Democrat Hate Machine, but you wouldn't be you, now would you?


I don't even know what that's supposed to mean other than "I can't debate policy because then I have to deviate from my script".
 
2020-08-14 2:03:12 PM  
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The_Sponge: And if all cops are bastards, then I hope you guys "keep it real" and never call 911 for a situation that would usually call for law enforcement.


What situation would that be? Any emergency I could have will either be better handled by someone else or it will be over before anyone else can get there. I don't need people with guns to save me, I've got a huge stack of my own.

If I call it will only be because my insurance wants a copy of a police report.
 
2020-08-14 1:59:47 PM  
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whidbey: winedrinkingman: I support the police.  That said having been a cop I can honestly say that the best thing you can do to support the police is to remove the bottom third of officers who are racist, violate people's rights, or who fail to live up to the moral obligations that we deserve from police.

By an amazing coincidence these also tend to be the dumbest guys in every department, who screw up other officers' investigations, sexually harasse the female staff, and escalate routine calls into dangerous confrontations for mot just the public, but also all the other cops.

And then there are the unions....


The unions enable them.  I would suggest that for this field, Democrats should drop their support of unions.
 
2020-08-14 1:58:50 PM  
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Begoggle: FLMountainMan: JesseL: asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog

All cops don't have to be bastards. It just happens that they currently are.

It's no great stretch to imagine current systems being replaced in function and employing people that aren't bastards.

Did you really think you had some kind of clever *gotcha* there?

So how do you think this will happen?  What's the game plan other than saying "cops R dicks HURHURHUR"?

It's not going to happen on Fark.
Defending them on Fark isn't going to help protect them, either, Mr. Mountain Man.


And attacking them on Fark isn't going to get us to your cop-free nirvana either?  So again - what specific ideas do you have to reform the system?  I think step one is to prohibit unionized law enforcement, or bar certain employment protections in union contracts.
 
2020-08-14 1:57:02 PM  
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gar1013: It's like garlic. People in the US overuse it to obscene levels compared to places like Italy.


Fresh chopped garlic is awesome. I always double what the recipe says. If the recipe was just "two roasted cloves of garlic" I'd add two more for flavor.
 
2020-08-14 1:55:58 PM  
1 vote:

dwrash: They wont stay in businesses for long...


Yes, I'm sure that Seattle microbrewery was really depending on the bootlicker demographic to keep them solvent.
 
2020-08-14 1:54:06 PM  
1 vote:

asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog


All cops don't have to be bastards. It just happens that they currently are.

It's no great stretch to imagine current systems being replaced in function and employing people that aren't bastards.

Did you really think you had some kind of clever *gotcha* there?
 
2020-08-14 1:53:59 PM  
1 vote:
Bravo to them, but I prefer Saison style beers. I feel hops have become a crutch. Just add an ass load of hops to any shiatty beer, and you can sell it. Hard pass.
 
2020-08-14 1:50:47 PM  
1 vote:

asciibaron: this sets up an interesting dilemma.  if people want Trump arrested and brought to justice for his crimes, that would require the police.  if all cops are bastards and they are part of an evil in the country, how will Trump get arrested for his crimes?

20/20 mad as a dog


It's adorable you think police have anything to do with whether or not Trump will be arrested.
 
2020-08-14 1:45:14 PM  
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The_Sponge: FlyinS: Well, they're not wrong.

Yes they are.

ACAB is an ignorant blanket statement.


The good cops protect the bad cops.
That means the good cops are bad cops.
 
2020-08-14 1:26:32 PM  
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FLMountainMan: Sounds like I know which brewery to burglarize in Seattle.


I LOL'd.
 
2020-08-14 1:23:21 PM  
1 vote:
Well, they're not wrong.
 
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