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2020-08-14 10:30:09 AM  
I thought the House did the funding decisions.
 
2020-08-14 10:30:16 AM  
What'cha gonna do brother, when Trumpamania runs wild on you?
 
2020-08-14 10:30:36 AM  

AntiNerd: I thought the House did the funding decisions.


We thought a lot of things before 01/2017
 
2020-08-14 10:30:43 AM  
GAO is Congress, so Trump will ignore their findings and force groups to take them to court.

That or it will be just like the last time Ken Cuccinelli was determined to have been illegally installed in a position: they will move them both to new acting positions that might be illegal but will require you to prove those appointments were illegal too.
 
2020-08-14 10:30:55 AM  
Finally! This will turn the tide!

*sigh
 
2020-08-14 10:31:23 AM  
"GAO said it was referring the matter to the DHS inspector general for reviews, and that any further actions would be up to Congress and the IG."

Ain't nothing gonna happen.
 
2020-08-14 10:32:51 AM  
 I assume they're drawing a paycheck? Just fix the glitch. They're going to burn the building down on the way out anyway.
 
2020-08-14 10:33:04 AM  
Duh.

The continued service of Secretary Chad Wolf and Senior Official Performing the Duties of the United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli is almost certainly illegal. The Federal Vacancies Reform Act allows an acting official to serve for 210 days once a position that requires Senate approval becomes vacant. That can be extended a bit if the president nominates a replacement, and the replacement is rejected, but even then there are limits. The Homeland Security Act slightly complicates things for this particular department, but only slightly.

The last Senate-confirmed person to occupy the secretaryship was Kirstjen Nielsen, who left the job 463 days ago. She was replaced by Kevin McAleenan, who served for the maximum 210 days, and then by Wolf, who has served 253 days. Trump has yet to nominate a permanent replacement for Nielsen, which means there are actually three distinct arguments for Wolf's service being illegal: (1) Wolf rose up the ranks because McAleenan reorganized the line of succession, but as a non-approved secretary himself, McAleenan did not have that power; (2) when Wolf assumed the job, it had been vacant for 210 days, making the promotion of anyone to that job illegal; and (3) Wolf has been on the job himself for far longer than 210 days. (Cuccinelli, for his part, would fall afoul of condition #3; he's been on the job 412 days.) If you want to read more about the legality of the situation, the Washington Post had a good nuts-and-bolts breakdown; if you want to read a general critique of the DHS, Slate had this interesting piece on it.

The reason that Trump gets away with it, of course, is that there's nobody to call him on it. The Dept. of Justice is in his hip pocket, and the Senate is interested only in confirming judges and not in holding him accountable. The Democrats have screamed bloody murder, but there's not much they can do by themselves, and they have the time, resources, and political capital for only so many battles with this administration.
 
2020-08-14 10:33:21 AM  

Grungehamster: GAO is Congress, so Trump will ignore their findings and force groups to take them to court.

That or it will be just like the last time Ken Cuccinelli was determined to have been illegally installed in a position: they will move them both to new acting positions that might be illegal but will require you to prove those appointments were illegal too.


Well thank goodness the system works!
 
2020-08-14 10:34:13 AM  

SolderGlob: "GAO said it was referring the matter to the DHS inspector general for reviews, and that any further actions would be up to Congress and the IG."

Ain't nothing gonna happen.


It is text book "ain't nothing gonna happen."
 
2020-08-14 10:35:51 AM  
She has other sources...

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2020-08-14 10:36:04 AM  
Is it time for the Trump toadies to play musical chairs again? That game never gets old... for Trump.
 
2020-08-14 10:36:12 AM  
DHS should be dissolved and the director hanged.
 
2020-08-14 10:37:24 AM  
Hah! We've got'em now!

I expect that guardsmen will be coming to arrest them and remove them from their current offices shortly.

What? That's not going to happen, oh, well I guess it's legal then.
 
2020-08-14 10:39:13 AM  
Drain the swamp!  More government accountability!  Down with the GAO!

Effing morons.
 
2020-08-14 10:39:42 AM  

scottydoesntknow: We thought a lot of things before 01/2017


We thought people who were elected president wouldn't do the things they said they would when campaigning.

We were uninspired.

We didn't like laws. We liked "traditions" and "norms."

We were children. Most of us still are. Except the actual children. They are cannon fodder for Wall Street.
 
2020-08-14 10:40:08 AM  
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2020-08-14 10:41:40 AM  
Maybe this will inspire the underlings to slow walk any decisions from "leadership?"
 
2020-08-14 10:41:45 AM  
This whole "acting secretary" thing is completely unconstitutional. The real question is how do we put teeth into the Senate confirmation requirement. Presidents used to just abide by it, but clearly we can't rely on that anymore. I think we need to make it so that the president is barred from inserting people into the order of succession at an agency unless those individuals are confirmed by the Senate. Presidents should also be barred from terminating any Senate-confirmed individual at an agency while the cabinet-level office is vacant. If at any time there are no Senate-confirmed individuals at a given agency, by resignation or otherwise, the Senate may select a Senate-confirmed individual from another agency to preside over the vacant agency until the president selects a permanent replacement. This way, the president gets zero opportunity to monkey around with personnel outside of the constitutionally required Senate approval process.
 
2020-08-14 10:42:00 AM  
Biden is going to spend his entire administration investigating this one.
 
2020-08-14 10:42:06 AM  
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2020-08-14 10:42:22 AM  

Grungehamster: they will move them both to new acting positions that might be illegal but will require you to prove those appointments were illegal too.


Huh, that's how the mob got around criminals working in casinos in Vegas in the '70s.
 
2020-08-14 10:43:37 AM  
Oh crap, the most powerful nation in the world (and up until recently, the best one) is just failing in front of our faces.

Does no one understand the utter danger the World is in right now?

I thought you yankie farks would get to November, but I am starting to fear that is too far away.
 
2020-08-14 10:44:41 AM  
The GAO couldn't any trouble with Trump's hotel and his presidenting.  You know, the hotel that people rent rooms in and never use.

Just waiting for the day BIden double parks the Trans Am and the repubs scream for impeachment.
 
2020-08-14 10:47:05 AM  
GAO said it was referring the matter to the DHS inspector general for reviews, and that any further actions would be up to Congress and the IG.

The Inspector General who serves at Trump's pleasure will be a vacant position soon.
 
2020-08-14 10:47:45 AM  

SuperSix-Two: The reason that Trump gets away with it, of course, is that there's nobody to call him on it. The Dept. of Justice is in his hip pocket, and the Senate is interested only in confirming judges and not in holding him accountable. The Democrats have screamed bloody murder, but there's not much they can do by themselves, and they have the time, resources, and political capital for only so many battles with this administration.


This right here is why I get pissed when some Farkers (u no hoo u r*) blame Democrats for everything that goes on and why they aren't doing enough to combat the blatant corruption.

The Democrats control the House of Representatives; the Republicans control the Senate, the White House, the Supreme Court, and roughly half of the state legislatures. Most of those branches are in Trump's pocket because the R's conceded control to him without a fight in the name of power.

And yet it's the Democrats' fault because reasons and such.

* sic
 
2020-08-14 10:48:17 AM  

scottydoesntknow: AntiNerd: I thought the House did the funding decisions.

We thought a lot of things before 01/2017


And we were wrong wrong wrong.
 
2020-08-14 10:48:39 AM  

SuperSix-Two: Duh.

The continued service of Secretary Chad Wolf and Senior Official Performing the Duties of the United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli is almost certainly illegal. The Federal Vacancies Reform Act allows an acting official to serve for 210 days once a position that requires Senate approval becomes vacant. That can be extended a bit if the president nominates a replacement, and the replacement is rejected, but even then there are limits. The Homeland Security Act slightly complicates things for this particular department, but only slightly.

The last Senate-confirmed person to occupy the secretaryship was Kirstjen Nielsen, who left the job 463 days ago. She was replaced by Kevin McAleenan, who served for the maximum 210 days, and then by Wolf, who has served 253 days. Trump has yet to nominate a permanent replacement for Nielsen, which means there are actually three distinct arguments for Wolf's service being illegal: (1) Wolf rose up the ranks because McAleenan reorganized the line of succession, but as a non-approved secretary himself, McAleenan did not have that power; (2) when Wolf assumed the job, it had been vacant for 210 days, making the promotion of anyone to that job illegal; and (3) Wolf has been on the job himself for far longer than 210 days. (Cuccinelli, for his part, would fall afoul of condition #3; he's been on the job 412 days.) If you want to read more about the legality of the situation, the Washington Post had a good nuts-and-bolts breakdown; if you want to read a general critique of the DHS, Slate had this interesting piece on it.

The reason that Trump gets away with it, of course, is that there's nobody to call him on it. The Dept. of Justice is in his hip pocket, and the Senate is interested only in confirming judges and not in holding him accountable. The Democrats have screamed bloody murder, but there's not much they can do by themselves, and they have the time, resources, and political capital for only so m ...


Is your handle a reference to Blackhawk Down?
 
2020-08-14 10:49:24 AM  

Langdon_777: the best one


What does that even mean? It's that kind of thinking that led us here, frankly. 'America #1' allowed everyone to sit on their hands and drink a Bud thinking the ship drove itself and it doesn't matter who's at the helm.

We're adrift and close to a sand bar.
 
2020-08-14 10:49:31 AM  
We've got that trickster Trump NOW, by golly!
 
2020-08-14 10:50:02 AM  
So the guy who was sending the little green men to Portland... shouldn't even be in the job he's in?

Huh, what do you know?
 
2020-08-14 10:50:04 AM  

Langdon_777: Oh crap, the most powerful nation in the world (and up until recently, the best one) is just failing in front of our faces.

Does no one understand the utter danger the World is in right now?

I thought you yankie farks would get to November, but I am starting to fear that is too far away.

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2020-08-14 10:50:53 AM  

Catlenfell: Biden is going to spend his entire administration investigating this one.


Between all the investigations, and trying to un-fark everything, he needs at least two terms I'm thinking
 
2020-08-14 10:53:32 AM  

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2020-08-14 10:54:12 AM  

Langdon_777: Oh crap, the most powerful nation in the world (and up until recently, the best one) is just failing in front of our faces.

Does no one understand the utter danger the World is in right now?

I thought you yankie farks would get to November, but I am starting to fear that is too far away.


Oh no. We had no chance at this after we saw Trump deliberately fumble away any chance at a coherent response to the Pandemic. My hope had been that the Black Lives Matter movement would be joined by others who saw the inequality and failings in our system in real time. Looks like Netflix and 'Vote in November, that's your only responsibility in how this nation works' won the day.

Perhaps we should be ruled by the wealthy elites and not by each other.
 
2020-08-14 10:56:25 AM  
Now that the Belarus embarrassment has been laid to rest, there is fresh talent available from the former Soviet Union to fill many of Trump's now illegally occupied, not nominated, spots.

The translator problem is solved, thanks to this man, who hasn't been in the spotlight since Mandela's memorial.


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2020-08-14 11:02:05 AM  

SuperSix-Two: Duh.

The continued service of Secretary Chad Wolf and Senior Official Performing the Duties of the United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli is almost certainly illegal. The Federal Vacancies Reform Act allows an acting official to serve for 210 days once a position that requires Senate approval becomes vacant. That can be extended a bit if the president nominates a replacement, and the replacement is rejected, but even then there are limits. The Homeland Security Act slightly complicates things for this particular department, but only slightly.

The last Senate-confirmed person to occupy the secretaryship was Kirstjen Nielsen, who left the job 463 days ago. She was replaced by Kevin McAleenan, who served for the maximum 210 days, and then by Wolf, who has served 253 days. Trump has yet to nominate a permanent replacement for Nielsen, which means there are actually three distinct arguments for Wolf's service being illegal: (1) Wolf rose up the ranks because McAleenan reorganized the line of succession, but as a non-approved secretary himself, McAleenan did not have that power; (2) when Wolf assumed the job, it had been vacant for 210 days, making the promotion of anyone to that job illegal; and (3) Wolf has been on the job himself for far longer than 210 days. (Cuccinelli, for his part, would fall afoul of condition #3; he's been on the job 412 days.) If you want to read more about the legality of the situation, the Washington Post had a good nuts-and-bolts breakdown; if you want to read a general critique of the DHS, Slate had this interesting piece on it.

The reason that Trump gets away with it, of course, is that there's nobody to call him on it. The Dept. of Justice is in his hip pocket, and the Senate is interested only in confirming judges and not in holding him accountable. The Democrats have screamed bloody murder, but there's not much they can do by themselves, and they have the time, resources, and political capital for only so many battles with this administration.


It also means Chad has no legal authority and cannot legally direct the department's actions. This could mean anything they charge people with could be simply dismissed in court - if it was an action specifically directed by him. Like the BATF, no actual appointment could tie their hands in several legal areas.

It won't matter if the courts let them do whatever they want anyhow.
 
2020-08-14 11:03:39 AM  

OldRod: So the guy who was sending the little green men to Portland... shouldn't even be in the job he's in?

Huh, what do you know?


He didn't have the legal authority to put them there.
 
2020-08-14 11:04:32 AM  

Langdon_777: Oh crap, the most powerful nation in the world (and up until recently, the best one) is just failing in front of our faces.

Does no one understand the utter danger the World is in right now?

I thought you Yankee farks would get to November, but I am starting to fear that is too far away.


The sane ones here understand the level of danger both at home and abroad, but we have a large contingent of pyromaniac morons following the orders of the corrupt and evil gleefully trying to burn everything down.  We realize that the longer it takes to fix, the more damage it will do, but we're limited by our laws in our response.  We're trying to follow the law because we believe that there is something left to save.  If there comes a point where we aren't willing to save it anymore, expect that it's going to get a lot worse before it gets replaced by something new.
 
2020-08-14 11:15:21 AM  
The Constitution has been destroyed. It has failed. The system of chccks and balances has failed.

The Congress has failed to act as a check and balance. The Supreme Court has failed to act as a check and balace. When the President or Executive Branch is willfully at war the Constituion, Congress and Laws of the United States he is a tyrant and an Enemy of the People of the USA and its Constitution, Laws, Justice and the State.

It would normally be the responsability of the Congress and the Supreme Court, aided and supported by the institutions of the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial branches to supress the threat and anomaly and restore justice, law, and governance.

When the Congress fails in the performance of its constituitional duties, the people are entitled to exchequer its members and elect a new Congress. They are entitled to assume their natural rights as the Sovereign people to remove the threat and real present danger of their erstwhile leaders as they removed King, Lords, Parliament and the Royal Courts in former times.

Trump is a four year old child testing the limits of his freedom by acting out. Unless the adults check him, he will assume the right to do as he pleases no matter how eggregious his behaviour. He can be stopped only by patience, discipline and if necessary, punishment.

The GAO is the most respectable non-partisan of institutions in determing the budget and thus the actions of the USA. If it is ignored, abused, or thwarted, law and order are ipso facto in a state of constitutional, legal and moral anarchy.

The rights of the People can not be arrogated, abridged or challenged without them assuming the rights of self-defence and of forming a new government in keeping with their needs, values and desires.

That is the theory and the fact of British and American government, whose name is Leviathan. Where Law ends, brute force begins, and thus chaos, anarchy and disorder. The people must not and can not tolerate these three things.
 
2020-08-14 11:19:19 AM  

Alley Rat: SuperSix-Two: The reason that Trump gets away with it, of course, is that there's nobody to call him on it. The Dept. of Justice is in his hip pocket, and the Senate is interested only in confirming judges and not in holding him accountable. The Democrats have screamed bloody murder, but there's not much they can do by themselves, and they have the time, resources, and political capital for only so many battles with this administration.

This right here is why I get pissed when some Farkers (u no hoo u r*) blame Democrats for everything that goes on and why they aren't doing enough to combat the blatant corruption.

The Democrats control the House of Representatives; the Republicans control the Senate, the White House, the Supreme Court, and roughly half of the state legislatures. Most of those branches are in Trump's pocket because the R's conceded control to him without a fight in the name of power.

And yet it's the Democrats' fault because reasons and such.

* sic


. . .and Republican voters are absolutely convinced that all the problems come from Democrats, and if elected, Democrats will make things much worse.

Reminds me of someone I saw on FB last night, commenting on a friend's post.  This was an actual friend, a real person and not some Russian bot, that my friend had met at a Warhammer 40K tournament a few years before and added on FB.

When my friend posted some pro-Biden/anti-Trump meme, this friend-of-a-friend went off about how Democrats "want to destroy the economy, murder babies, and wreck the government" and how "Democrats don't respect the rule of law and want anarchy in America because they hate God and hate America". . .how the pandemic is some Democratic plot to destroy Trump because they hate America, and how Trump is the best, smartest, healthiest most competent, most patriotic POTUS ever, and how only "libs" hate him because they're evil and how Biden is senile and corrupt and probably won't live to the election day, and if he's elected he definitely will die in office making Kamala Harris the President. . .except that she isn't eligible to be POTUS, saying she was "really" born in India and that she isn't really a Christian, she's a Hindu "who doesn't believe in God, and it's illegal to be an elected official in America and not believe in God".

After a few attempts by people to reason with him, to use facts. . .to which he responded with just profanity and insults my friend unfriended the guy, essentially kicking him out of the discussion on the friends-locked meme post he made, while musing that the guy had seemed decent enough when he met him a few years ago at that tournament, and he'd unfollowed him because of political stuff a couple of years ago, but he'd never gotten this combative until now.

My thoughts were:
1. That guy votes
2. That is a typical Trump voter.
3. We're farked, even after we get Trump out of office we're going to have tens of millions of brainwashed Trump cultists to deal with.
 
2020-08-14 11:22:58 AM  

SuperSix-Two: Duh.

The continued service of Secretary Chad Wolf and Senior Official Performing the Duties of the United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli is almost certainly illegal. The Federal Vacancies Reform Act allows an acting official to serve for 210 days once a position that requires Senate approval becomes vacant. That can be extended a bit if the president nominates a replacement, and the replacement is rejected, but even then there are limits. The Homeland Security Act slightly complicates things for this particular department, but only slightly.

The last Senate-confirmed person to occupy the secretaryship was Kirstjen Nielsen, who left the job 463 days ago. She was replaced by Kevin McAleenan, who served for the maximum 210 days, and then by Wolf, who has served 253 days. Trump has yet to nominate a permanent replacement for Nielsen, which means there are actually three distinct arguments for Wolf's service being illegal: (1) Wolf rose up the ranks because McAleenan reorganized the line of succession, but as a non-approved secretary himself, McAleenan did not have that power; (2) when Wolf assumed the job, it had been vacant for 210 days, making the promotion of anyone to that job illegal; and (3) Wolf has been on the job himself for far longer than 210 days. (Cuccinelli, for his part, would fall afoul of condition #3; he's been on the job 412 days.) If you want to read more about the legality of the situation, the Washington Post had a good nuts-and-bolts breakdown; if you want to read a general critique of the DHS, Slate had this interesting piece on it.

The reason that Trump gets away with it, of course, is that there's nobody to call him on it. The Dept. of Justice is in his hip pocket, and the Senate is interested only in confirming judges and not in holding him accountable. The Democrats have screamed bloody murder, but there's not much they can do by themselves, and they have the time, resources, and political capital for only so m ...


What I want to know is why anyone at the department would listen to these people then.

If I'm head of a division and Wolf or Cuccinelli comes in to tell me to do something, my reply would be: "I'm sorry, who are you? I only answer to the Senate-appointed head of this department. You are just acting and you are acting illegally. Until a judge or the Senate tells me to listen to you, I will not. fark off until you get approved."

I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often around the government. Or maybe it does, I don't know.
 
2020-08-14 11:23:43 AM  

fsbilly: Langdon_777: the best one

What does that even mean? It's that kind of thinking that led us here, frankly. 'America #1' allowed everyone to sit on their hands and drink a Bud thinking the ship drove itself and it doesn't matter who's at the helm.

We're adrift and close to a sand bar.


I was being polite.

Your country has been one of the most murderous ones on the planet, but he kept yourselves slightly in check.  Well not really but you are better than the other option.  So all the smaller countries in the world have accepted things we would not normally, (well except for the fact that most of our "governments" have been corrupted by corporate interests as much as your's has.)

If the US does not pull it's shiat together, the World is going to end up some insane amount of minor nuke powers (it is bad enough the Israel has nukes and no one has done anything about it, in fact the US has given them billions, whilst they break every international law that is important.)

Things have to change!!!
 
2020-08-14 11:28:12 AM  

brantgoose: The Constitution has been destroyed. It has failed. The system of chccks and balances has failed.

The Congress has failed to act as a check and balance. The Supreme Court has failed to act as a check and balace. When the President or Executive Branch is willfully at war the Constituion, Congress and Laws of the United States he is a tyrant and an Enemy of the People of the USA and its Constitution, Laws, Justice and the State.

It would normally be the responsability of the Congress and the Supreme Court, aided and supported by the institutions of the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial branches to supress the threat and anomaly and restore justice, law, and governance.

When the Congress fails in the performance of its constituitional duties, the people are entitled to exchequer its members and elect a new Congress. They are entitled to assume their natural rights as the Sovereign people to remove the threat and real present danger of their erstwhile leaders as they removed King, Lords, Parliament and the Royal Courts in former times.

Trump is a four year old child testing the limits of his freedom by acting out. Unless the adults check him, he will assume the right to do as he pleases no matter how eggregious his behaviour. He can be stopped only by patience, discipline and if necessary, punishment.

The GAO is the most respectable non-partisan of institutions in determing the budget and thus the actions of the USA. If it is ignored, abused, or thwarted, law and order are ipso facto in a state of constitutional, legal and moral anarchy.

The rights of the People can not be arrogated, abridged or challenged without them assuming the rights of self-defence and of forming a new government in keeping with their needs, values and desires.

That is the theory and the fact of British and American government, whose name is Leviathan. Where Law ends, brute force begins, and thus chaos, anarchy and disorder. The people must not and can not tolerate these three thi ...


^^^
 
2020-08-14 11:28:16 AM  

Ishkur: SuperSix-Two: Duh.

The continued service of Secretary Chad Wolf and Senior Official Performing the Duties of the United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli is almost certainly illegal. The Federal Vacancies Reform Act allows an acting official to serve for 210 days once a position that requires Senate approval becomes vacant. That can be extended a bit if the president nominates a replacement, and the replacement is rejected, but even then there are limits. The Homeland Security Act slightly complicates things for this particular department, but only slightly.

The last Senate-confirmed person to occupy the secretaryship was Kirstjen Nielsen, who left the job 463 days ago. She was replaced by Kevin McAleenan, who served for the maximum 210 days, and then by Wolf, who has served 253 days. Trump has yet to nominate a permanent replacement for Nielsen, which means there are actually three distinct arguments for Wolf's service being illegal: (1) Wolf rose up the ranks because McAleenan reorganized the line of succession, but as a non-approved secretary himself, McAleenan did not have that power; (2) when Wolf assumed the job, it had been vacant for 210 days, making the promotion of anyone to that job illegal; and (3) Wolf has been on the job himself for far longer than 210 days. (Cuccinelli, for his part, would fall afoul of condition #3; he's been on the job 412 days.) If you want to read more about the legality of the situation, the Washington Post had a good nuts-and-bolts breakdown; if you want to read a general critique of the DHS, Slate had this interesting piece on it.

The reason that Trump gets away with it, of course, is that there's nobody to call him on it. The Dept. of Justice is in his hip pocket, and the Senate is interested only in confirming judges and not in holding him accountable. The Democrats have screamed bloody murder, but there's not much they can do by themselves, and they have the time, resources, and political capital ...


I'm sure that anyone willing to do this has left the administration by now, or are afraid of being fired from their positions.
 
2020-08-14 11:34:31 AM  
We wholeheartedly disagree with the GAO's baseless report and plan to issue a formal response to this shortly," DHS spokesman Nathaniel Madden said in a statement."

Like, in, maybe, two weeks? Meanwhile the lawless administration just keeps rolling along like a bull in the American China Shop of political norms.
 
2020-08-14 11:39:42 AM  

shut_it_down: This whole "acting secretary" thing is completely unconstitutional. The real question is how do we put teeth into the Senate confirmation requirement. Presidents used to just abide by it, but clearly we can't rely on that anymore. I think we need to make it so that the president is barred from inserting people into the order of succession at an agency unless those individuals are confirmed by the Senate. Presidents should also be barred from terminating any Senate-confirmed individual at an agency while the cabinet-level office is vacant. If at any time there are no Senate-confirmed individuals at a given agency, by resignation or otherwise, the Senate may select a Senate-confirmed individual from another agency to preside over the vacant agency until the president selects a permanent replacement. This way, the president gets zero opportunity to monkey around with personnel outside of the constitutionally required Senate approval process.


Yes. The administration should be made to feel its ineffectiveness without a confirmed candidate - they should feel the American citizens wrath at their ineffectiveness.

Unfortunately that type of discipline is absent in a nation and citizenry that can't bring itself to protect one another in a pandemic.
 
2020-08-14 11:42:00 AM  
For those curious as to why non-appointees aren't rejecting orders by illegitimate leadership or reporting malfeasance, I'd say it's pretty simple:

They're all waiting until Trump no longer has control of the Justice dept. Everyone is saving emails and documenting activity, but no one has any faith that anything can happen with Barr running interference.
 
2020-08-14 11:44:56 AM  
DHS has not had an appointed Deputy Secretary since July 2017.  That is insane.
 
2020-08-14 12:08:32 PM  

raisedbyacupofcoffee: DHS has not had an appointed Deputy Secretary since July 2017.  That is insane.


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