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(NBC News)   Is subby reading this correctly? Trump is actually suing Yale because it admits too many black students?   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2020-08-14 9:04:02 AM  
He just wants racial equality and fairness, Subby. It's only coincidence that this particular instance aligns with white supremacist talking points.

He bragged about low black unemployment, so there's your proof that he cares about ALL races getting fair and equal treatment.
 
2020-08-14 9:26:26 AM  
They make up almost 7% of the student body. It's an invasion!
 
2020-08-14 10:21:55 AM  
Guess who rejected Fred Trump's Gift, where UPenn accepted it?
 
2020-08-14 11:03:27 AM  
Kind of hard to claim a school is criminating against white students when a majority of the students there are white.
 
2020-08-14 11:08:28 AM  
Great use of his time.  It is not like he has anything to worry about like say. . .a pandemic whose death toll in the US alone may exceed a quarter of a million before October.
 
2020-08-14 11:28:59 AM  
Why won't someone think of the White Supremacists! They never get special attention!


/s
 
2020-08-14 11:53:25 AM  
There was a similar lawsuit against Harvard last year.  It didn't go so well for the Justice Department:

A federal judge has ruled in favor of Harvard University in a high-profile court case centered on the college's consideration of race in its admissions decisions.
U.S. District Judge Allison D. Burroughs said in her decision that Harvard's admissions process is "not perfect" but passes constitutional muster. She said there is no evidence of "racial animus" and no evidence "that any particular admissions decision was negatively affected by Asian American identity."

The group behind the lawsuit, Students for Fair Admissions, claimed in the 2014 lawsuit that Harvard intentionally discriminates against Asian American applicants. The group is led by Edward Blum*, a conservative activist who has fought against affirmative action and other laws involving race and ethnicity, such as the Voting Rights Act. Blum said the group will appeal the decision.

In April, Harvard said 25.4 percent of its admitted class of 1,950 students were Asian American, up from 22.7 percent the year before. The new figure was the highest proportion of Asian American students that the university has admitted in the last decade.
Harvard has said race is one of many factors used to consider applicants and it can only help, not hurt, an applicant's chances.
A study published earlier this month in the National Bureau of Economic Research, found that 43 percent of white students admitted to Harvard were recruited athletes, legacy students, children of faculty and staff, or on the dean's interest list - applicants whose parents or relatives have donated to Harvard.
The study also found that roughly 75 percent of the white students admitted from those four categories, labeled 'ALDCs' in the study, "would have been rejected if they had been treated as white non-ALDCs."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/​j​udge-rules-favor-harvard-affirmative-a​ction-case-n1060921


*In Shelby County, the Supreme Court struck down Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which subjected certain states and parts of states to federal scrutiny when they tried to modify voting procedures.[6] This scrutiny, known as "preclearance", was intended to prevent states from enacting voting procedures that disproportionately burden racial minorities. After unsuccessfully lobbying Congress to modify the preclearance rules in the Act's 2006 reauthorization, Blum set out to challenge the Act's constitutionality in court. He wanted to change or eliminate the law because it had indirectly led to the racial gerrymandering which he encountered in the 1990s when he ran for Congress.[7] He eventually persuaded officials in Shelby County, Alabama to sue the federal government. The Supreme Court's ruling was a major victory for Blum.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/​Edward_B​lum_(litigant)

Not sure if Blum is also involved in the Yale case.

Hassan Mihnaj had an interesting perspective on this:

In the premiere episode, which debuted Sunday, the comedian brought up a lawsuit by a group of Asian-Americans suing Harvard, accusing the university of unfairly giving preference to other minorities in their admissions process.
"Now Asians - and I am lumping all of us together right now - I find it hilarious that this is the hill we're willing to die on," says Minhaj...

He concluded the show by saying: "For those in the Asian community who keep insisting, 'We just want equality; we're American citizens; treat us like Americans,' fine. But if you are willing to act like racism isn't a thing, team up with lawyers and then take it to the courts when you don't get your way, you're right. You truly are an American. You just happen to be the worst kind."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv​e​-feed/hasan-minhaj-talks-threat-affirm​ative-action-patriot-act-premiere-1155​777
 
2020-08-14 12:25:32 PM  
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2020-08-14 12:26:19 PM  
Your Honor, we'd like to request a trial date after January 20, 2021.
 
2020-08-14 12:26:26 PM  

Latinwolf: Kind of hard to claim a school is criminating against white students when a majority of the students there are white.


But not ENOUGH of a majority.  C'mon now.
 
2020-08-14 12:30:29 PM  
So, they're saying too few white and Asian students are being admitted, and they are asking Yale to use some sort of supportive measure to rectify the situation.
 
2020-08-14 12:30:36 PM  
Barron's Yale preapp must have been declined.
 
2020-08-14 12:31:27 PM  
Welcome to the Chaos Goblin time line.

Anybody awakening from a four year coma should know that Chaos Goblin has a name, and it is Donald John Trump.
 
2020-08-14 12:31:38 PM  
Eric Dreiband, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights.

"The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink"
 
2020-08-14 12:31:50 PM  
Anythings a dildo if you're brave enough.
 
2020-08-14 12:31:57 PM  
The only Yale I recognize in the context of DJT is the lock-maker.
 
2020-08-14 12:32:55 PM  
Well, Barr, but yes. That's what they're saying.
 
2020-08-14 12:33:56 PM  
Huh. I was unaware that an excessively large number of black folks attending Yale was a problem.
Just goes to show, these days.
If it isn't one thing, it's another.
 
2020-08-14 12:34:19 PM  
The investigation concluded that Asian American and white applicants are only one-tenth to one-fourth as likely to be admitted as African American applications with comparable academic records.

That's literally what equality means.
 
2020-08-14 12:34:22 PM  
It's a lawsuit put together by a weird neo-con guy who wants to pretend like systemic-racism based inequity doesn't exist and public institutions should try to make the world more equal.  They are arguing the school has implicit quotas, which are not allowed.  It's to force the school to look solely at applicants credentials, of which White and Asian students typically have higher ratings.

The guy did the same thing in Texas which has an interesting college-of-choice system.  He found a white woman to claim she was discriminated against because she didn't get into her preferred college.  The case went on for 7 years, despite the pool of students who didn't get into their preferred college being 96% Black.  That's right, they claimed that because 4% of Black applicants got to go to their first school of choice, that there must be anti-white discrimination in the system.

They lost the lawsuit.
 
2020-08-14 12:34:36 PM  
Yale 6.8% African American students
U.S. 13.4% African American

Grossly oversimplified? Absolutely.
Trump dog whistling and banging a drum? Absolutely.
 
2020-08-14 12:35:56 PM  
Yes, Subby, you read that right.

Any money on how long it takes for the Trump administration to undermine the 13th amendment if he gets re-elected? I bet that still riles up a lot of his supporters.
 
2020-08-14 12:36:21 PM  
I'm trying to say this in a coherent and intelligent way, but its been a long week.  Please translate this as needed:

Trump is stuck in the 1970s.  His campaign and administration have been dedicated to taking action on the rich white grievances of that decade.  His followers are aging "Me" generation boomers that are pissed that they were forced to grow up.
 
2020-08-14 12:36:29 PM  
Ya have to hand it to the orange mook...he stays on message, even if that message is racism defined.
 
2020-08-14 12:37:38 PM  
I'm going to reemphasize the big takeaway of Craics post for those skipping the wall of text.

43% of Harvard's white students are legacy/athlete.  75% don't get in without it.  I assume Yale is similar.
 
2020-08-14 12:37:55 PM  

SumoJeb: Barron's Yale preapp must have been declined.


That's just because they want money up front
 
2020-08-14 12:38:42 PM  
As someone who was rejected from Yale, I must say that it's not fair that I was discriminated against for having average (by Yale standards) test scores and a bonkers-in-retrospect essay. And also being Asian, I guess.
 
2020-08-14 12:39:28 PM  

Snapper Carr: Eric Dreiband, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights.

"The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink"


We have always been at war with European and Asian students...
 
2020-08-14 12:39:58 PM  
That coin has two sides. You can't keep dumping on the white man for a decade and not expect them to start fighting back.
 
2020-08-14 12:41:38 PM  
He clearly things being mega-racist 24/7 is a winning political strategy. Why not just blow the roof off the 'mutha Donnie and reveal you've been the 'Grand Wizard' of the KKK all this time? The base will love it!
 
2020-08-14 12:41:41 PM  

LesserEvil: Yes, Subby, you read that right.

Any money on how long it takes for the Trump administration to undermine the 13th amendment if he gets re-elected? I bet that still riles up a lot of his supporters.


Ah no, they need that one.  Miller plans on using the punishment for a crime exception to get convict labor to replace all the migrants
 
2020-08-14 12:42:32 PM  

tbhouston: That coin has two sides. You can't keep dumping on the white man for a decade and not expect them to start fighting back.


Why not? We dumped on minorities for 200+ years and still got upset when they fought back.
 
2020-08-14 12:44:23 PM  

12349876: 43% of Harvard's white students are legacy/athlete. 75% don't get in without it. I assume Yale is similar.


I think the US News rankings need to start docking schools for having high percentages of legacy admissions. They consider so many metrics, why not make the determination that having a high percentage of legacy admissions is indicative of weaker admissions standards or something. They already make similar leaps of logic when it comes to things like alumni donations (they think higher alumni donations indicate higher satisfaction and job success or some nonsense like that). The prestige schools will pare down the legacies if it starts to drop their rank.
 
2020-08-14 12:44:46 PM  

tbhouston: That coin has two sides. You can't keep dumping on the white man for a decade and not expect them to start fighting back.


Aww, poor white men. Won't they ever catch a break?

/ White man
// Seriously, this shiat is easy mode
/// Grow the fark up
 
2020-08-14 12:45:28 PM  

red230: [theinclusionsolution.me image 850x446]


Maybe those Blah people should buy some tickets, instead of sneaking around to watch the game for free. I bet they live in Section 8 housing and eat government cheese, despite owning a refrigerator and a Cadillac.
 
2020-08-14 12:46:15 PM  
Ah, yes.  Yale, where learning, scholarship and science take a backseat to epic
Halloween Costume Debates
.


Yale Students Berating Professor Highlights
Youtube kMc8pczn-hs
 
2020-08-14 12:47:09 PM  
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2020-08-14 12:48:50 PM  

Erek the Red: I'm trying to say this in a coherent and intelligent way, but its been a long week.  Please translate this as needed:

Trump is stuck in the 1970s.  His campaign and administration have been dedicated to taking action on the rich white grievances of that decade.  His followers are aging "Me" generation boomers that are pissed that they were forced to grow up.


That is completely coherent, and I was thinking the same thing--grousing about affirmative action is affixed to an era decades ago. Used to hear about it all the time, but it's been a long while. This and a couple of other recent moves had made me think that Trump's admin is homing in on a very specific demo to appeal to. Unfortunately for him, many of those people aren't even those people any more, a lot of them have moved on to either other grievances or other prejudices.
 
2020-08-14 12:49:35 PM  

tbhouston: That coin has two sides. You can't keep dumping on the white man for a decade and not expect them to start fighting back.


Telling you to stop behaving like entitled pricks when you don't get your own way isn't "dumping" on you.
 
2020-08-14 12:50:16 PM  

Latinwolf: Kind of hard to claim a school is criminating against white students when a majority of the students there are white.


The specific issue here is mainly Asians, frankly.

In the long term, the solution to solving the problem of people discriminating by race can't be to discriminate by race.

However, in the short term, in the real world, yeah, it kind of is.  But legally (and morally) you have to narrowly tailor such.
 
2020-08-14 12:52:47 PM  
Oh, and this thread is good enough as any to put up this picture:

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2020-08-14 12:53:09 PM  

shut_it_down: As someone who was rejected from Yale, I must say that it's not fair that I was discriminated against for having average (by Yale standards) test scores and a bonkers-in-retrospect essay. And also being Asian, I guess.


My daughter got wait-listed at Brown, and I took great delight in reminding her about the Gilmore Girls quote...

"Make sure you gloat over that dimwitted son of theirs who couldn't even get into Brown."
 
2020-08-14 12:56:01 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Ah, yes.  Yale, where learning, scholarship and science take a backseat to epic
Halloween Costume Debates.


[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/kMc8pczn​-hs]


Well, it's easy for you to make fun of Yale, having gone to a really good school.
 
2020-08-14 12:57:22 PM  
Conservatives favor a meritocracy over affirmative action.

/go figure
 
2020-08-14 12:58:27 PM  
*checks notes*

Yale admitted George Bush. Clearly they have a history of not sufficiently discriminating against white applicants.

Same goes for UPenn and Harvard.
 
2020-08-14 12:58:55 PM  
It's just him slurring his speech again. Probably another stroke. He said "Jail". Jail admits too many black students.

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2020-08-14 12:59:21 PM  
Serious question.
How do I exit from this particular timeline?

It's bad for my blood pressure and peace of mind.
Anymore of this and I'm going to do something I'll regret
 
2020-08-14 12:59:24 PM  

snowybunting: Ya have to hand it to the orange mook...he stays on message, even if that message is racism defined.


It's not hard when you're a giant farking racist. Stop assigning any sort of cleverness to him. He's not clever.

Being a self-serving asshole isn't a skill. It's a lack of character.
 
2020-08-14 1:00:51 PM  

fernt: Conservatives favor a meritocracy over affirmative action.

/go figure


Then why did they need 100 years of Jim Crow law to keep blacks from competing on the basis of merit?
 
2020-08-14 1:03:08 PM  

fernt: Conservatives favor a meritocracy over affirmative action.

/go figure


If they favored meritocracy, they'd be up in arms over legacy admissions. But those help rich white people, so they don't say a word.
 
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