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2020-08-12 4:03:29 PM  
What a luxury to be able to focus your search.
 
2020-08-12 4:51:02 PM  
What, like that time they had an outbreak from a Sumatran Monkey Rat?
 
2020-08-12 4:53:03 PM  
Well that's terrifying.

You know how big the cold supply chain is?
 
2020-08-12 4:54:46 PM  

edmo: What a luxury to be able to focus your search.


Yes, but if it really can stick around on, um, "stuff" for long enough to survive a trip from wherever to New Zealand, then we are all kind of farked.  Looks like the theory is in refrigerated food.

So, um, don't buy ice cream if you don't want to get Covid.
 
2020-08-12 4:56:10 PM  
It's in the air, not safe in your home, on your food.

We're so boned in the US. Good thing I've been playing red dead redemption for the last couple of months, so living on squirrel & sleeping rough won't seem out of the ordinary.

Except people will probably eat all the horses, so I'll be bike riding while hunting.
 
2020-08-12 4:56:35 PM  
Sheep must be carriers.  This makes sense when you look at how prevalent it is in the United States.

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2020-08-12 4:57:12 PM  
Ardern also delayed a key step toward a Sept. 19 general election, suspending the dissolution of parliament, which usually kicks off campaigning, until Monday.

Oh, sure, she can get away with that because she's pretty!
 
2020-08-12 4:57:47 PM  
Bloomfield said surface testing was underway at an Auckland cool store where a man from the infected family worked.

Also, what is a "cool store"?
 
2020-08-12 4:59:35 PM  

Jizz Master Zero: What, like that time they had an outbreak from a Sumatran Monkey Rat?


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Just bust out the lawnmowers...
 
2020-08-12 4:59:35 PM  
Maybe one of their public servants let someone else in illegally?

Or they had a long chain of asymptomatic cases that finally hit some vulnerable people, who actually got sick?

Hell, maybe there's a modern version of Typhoid Mary running around who never gets sick, but carries the virus around.
 
2020-08-12 5:01:46 PM  

CarnySaur: Bloomfield said surface testing was underway at an Auckland cool store where a man from the infected family worked.

Also, what is a "cool store"?


I think that means "refrigerated warehouse" from reading other articles.  So it looks like it was on the shipping container, not an individual package of food, but if it can stick around frozen/chilled on one, I can't see why it can't on another.

So, I guess all refrigerated or frozen food has to be suspect at this point.

Once everybody in the media figures this out in about four hours, there's going to be some worldwide panic.
 
2020-08-12 5:19:21 PM  
So time for imported goods to get quarantined in storage with circulating ozonated air for 24 - 72 hours? Good luck with that.
 
2020-08-12 5:19:29 PM  
Guess I'll go back to wiping groceries down when I get them home. Glad I was able to get Clorox wipes the last couple times I was at Sams Club
 
2020-08-12 5:21:58 PM  

fragMasterFlash: So time for imported goods to get quarantined in storage with circulating ozonated air for 24 - 72 hours two weeks? Good luck with that.

 
2020-08-12 5:26:10 PM  

CarnySaur: Ardern also delayed a key step toward a Sept. 19 general election, suspending the dissolution of parliament, which usually kicks off campaigning, until Monday.

Oh, sure, she can get away with that because she's pretty!


It's constitutional there. It ain't here, even if Brad Tatum (or whoever the chicks think is hot) was President.
 
2020-08-12 5:27:15 PM  
Mildly amusing story: A few weeks ago, I was on a Zoom call with a group that was mostly Australians, a few New Zealanders, and one American (myself).  One of the New Zealanders mentioned that there were some open questions about the legality of New Zealand's strict shutdown, and then spent a few minutes complaining about the shutdown's economic impact.

And then she remembered that there was an American on the call...
 
2020-08-12 5:33:23 PM  

dbeshear: CarnySaur: Ardern also delayed a key step toward a Sept. 19 general election, suspending the dissolution of parliament, which usually kicks off campaigning, until Monday.

Oh, sure, she can get away with that because she's pretty!

It's constitutional there. It ain't here, even if Brad Tatum (or whoever the chicks think is hot) was President.


Yeah, first amendment means you can't set a limit for the start of campaigning (which is political speech after all) in the United States, so campaigns here start about half an hour after the last election ended.
 
2020-08-12 5:34:17 PM  
The lockdown never ends...

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2020-08-12 5:34:26 PM  
My wife keeps asking my why I say Oh Darn in a redneck accent during sex.
 
2020-08-12 5:43:58 PM  
A couple nights ago I played a game of plague Inc, and you'll never guess which country had some survivors in the end.

That's right, it was plagued beating New Zealand. About 18,000 people survived in that isolated Little Island, after they bombed their infected cities and the disease killed faster than it could infect the remaining residents. And so the survivors of BLEEP gathered themselves for their new civilization on their Island Utopia, salvaging bits and pieces from the burnt-out remnants of Wellington and whatever else passes for a city in New Zealand.
 
2020-08-12 5:46:21 PM  
Tiny Tim is prime minister of new zealand?
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2020-08-12 5:57:53 PM  

Geotpf: fragMasterFlash: So time for imported goods to get quarantined in storage with circulating ozonated air for 24 - 72 hours two weeks? Good luck with that.


Good luck finding the extra cold storage capacity to handle more than a couple days of quarantine. Ozone is a pretty damn strong disinfectant, I find it a bit scary to think it would take so long to kill off COVID when we are being told hand washing and masks are keeping us safe.
 
2020-08-12 5:59:16 PM  
FTFA:
Two members of the infected family had visited tourist sites in the town of Rotorua, about three hours drive south of Auckland, while symptomatic, and a third had gone to work at a finance company in Auckland, also while symptomatic.

Is this a misprint and they meant to write "while asymptomatic" twice? If not...

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2020-08-12 6:10:03 PM  

chawco: A couple nights ago I played a game of plague Inc, and you'll never guess which country had some survivors in the end.

That's right, it was plagued beating New Zealand. About 18,000 people survived in that isolated Little Island, after they bombed their infected cities and the disease killed faster than it could infect the remaining residents. And so the survivors of BLEEP gathered themselves for their new civilization on their Island Utopia, salvaging bits and pieces from the burnt-out remnants of Wellington and whatever else passes for a city in New Zealand.


New Zealand is about as isolated as one can get.  Fiction imitates fact I guess.
 
2020-08-12 6:11:48 PM  

mikaloyd: Tiny Tim is prime minister of new zealand?[i.imgur.com image 850x570]


That's a young Dave Grohl in drag.

There.  I said it.
 
2020-08-12 6:12:10 PM  

erik-k: FTFA:
Two members of the infected family had visited tourist sites in the town of Rotorua, about three hours drive south of Auckland, while symptomatic, and a third had gone to work at a finance company in Auckland, also while symptomatic.

Is this a misprint and they meant to write "while asymptomatic" twice? If not...

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No, they thought they had a cold or flu or something other than Covid.  Remember, the country had been Covid-free for 102 days prior to this, and nobody in the family had gone overseas.  But, one member of the family worked in a refrigerated warehouse where frozen or chilled food was shipped from overseas, so that's apparently how they got it.
 
2020-08-12 6:16:45 PM  
I guess that means we have to stop refrigerating goods to prevent the spread.
 
2020-08-12 6:17:50 PM  
Get it now or get it later. White people.
 
2020-08-12 6:29:04 PM  
Everytime I see a bigass container ship sailing towards Seattle I wonder the same thing.
 
2020-08-12 6:33:14 PM  
I haven't had any ice cream or frozen foods since this began

not having ice cream is the worst
 
2020-08-12 6:43:37 PM  

Geotpf: erik-k: FTFA:
Two members of the infected family had visited tourist sites in the town of Rotorua, about three hours drive south of Auckland, while symptomatic, and a third had gone to work at a finance company in Auckland, also while symptomatic.

Is this a misprint and they meant to write "while asymptomatic" twice? If not...

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No, they thought they had a cold or flu or something other than Covid.  Remember, the country had been Covid-free for 102 days prior to this, and nobody in the family had gone overseas.  But, one member of the family worked in a refrigerated warehouse where frozen or chilled food was shipped from overseas, so that's apparently how they got it.


Wait, are you saying they contracted the virus from the surface of a refrigerated warehouse? I feel like that's the bigger story then.
 
2020-08-12 6:47:01 PM  

fragMasterFlash: So time for imported goods to get quarantined in storage with circulating ozonated air for 24 - 72 hours? Good luck with that.


Nah, ozone would destroy the packaging, better to use Cobalt 60 for irradiation, it's already used in 60 countries so it's a safe, known quantity.
 
2020-08-12 6:49:26 PM  
so don't be dumb and don't import seafood from a country that doesn't have covid under control.
 
2020-08-12 6:50:05 PM  

zepillin: I haven't had any ice cream or frozen foods since this began

not having ice cream is the worst


I have some recipes if you want. It's not that hard :)
 
2020-08-12 7:03:15 PM  

CarnySaur: Also, what is a "cool store"?


At 54, I suspect I'm too old to know.
 
2020-08-12 7:06:50 PM  

halifaxdatageek: zepillin: I haven't had any ice cream or frozen foods since this began

not having ice cream is the worst

I have some recipes if you want. It's not that hard :)


I don't butcher cook or shop thank you though
 
2020-08-12 7:23:21 PM  

chawco: A couple nights ago I played a game of plague Inc, and you'll never guess which country had some survivors in the end.

That's right, it was plagued beating New Zealand. About 18,000 people survived in that isolated Little Island, after they bombed their infected cities and the disease killed faster than it could infect the remaining residents. And so the survivors of BLEEP gathered themselves for their new civilization on their Island Utopia, salvaging bits and pieces from the burnt-out remnants of Wellington and whatever else passes for a city in New Zealand.


Gisborne is not your personal fetish city.
 
2020-08-12 7:34:36 PM  

Todd300: chawco: A couple nights ago I played a game of plague Inc, and you'll never guess which country had some survivors in the end.

That's right, it was plagued beating New Zealand. About 18,000 people survived in that isolated Little Island, after they bombed their infected cities and the disease killed faster than it could infect the remaining residents. And so the survivors of BLEEP gathered themselves for their new civilization on their Island Utopia, salvaging bits and pieces from the burnt-out remnants of Wellington and whatever else passes for a city in New Zealand.

Gisborne is not your personal fetish city.


A quick and NSWF search suggests otherwise....
 
2020-08-12 7:51:13 PM  

whidbey: Everytime I see a bigass container ship sailing towards Seattle I wonder the same thing.


You live across from Marrowstone or something?
 
2020-08-12 8:10:13 PM  
"its first COVID-19 cases in more than three months."

Maybe they were wrong. Just a thought.
 
2020-08-12 8:12:11 PM  

zepillin: halifaxdatageek: zepillin: I haven't had any ice cream or frozen foods since this began

not having ice cream is the worst

I have some recipes if you want. It's not that hard :)

I don't butcher cook or shop thank you though


Well thats great becuase none of those skills are required in making ice cream.
 
2020-08-12 8:24:28 PM  
kick ass for the lord!
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2020-08-12 8:47:46 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Geotpf: fragMasterFlash: So time for imported goods to get quarantined in storage with circulating ozonated air for 24 - 72 hours two weeks? Good luck with that.

Good luck finding the extra cold storage capacity to handle more than a couple days of quarantine. Ozone is a pretty damn strong disinfectant, I find it a bit scary to think it would take so long to kill off COVID when we are being told hand washing and masks are keeping us safe.


quicker to spray the packages/pallets with a backpack sprayer.  I think they are doing something similar on aeroplanes.  However, if you need to unload the pallet and spread out each package of shrimp or whatever it's going to take longer.
 
2020-08-12 8:55:57 PM  
The cold storage/refrigerated warehouse location now has at least 3 confirmed cases.  They deal with -30C (-20F) storage.  Flu viruses when prepared for freezing can last a few years at -5C (fridge temps) or years at -20C (Canadian cold) or decades at -70C (Siberian cold).  Droplets on the other hand tend to break down destroying virus at -40 but not warmer but that only kills some of the virus.  -40 is where machinery starts to break down in very strange ways.

There was an outbreak in Victoria Australia at a cold storage location too but that seems to have been isolated to one shift.

The Kiwis get import their their frozen food from mostly US, Canada and Australia.

If the virus came in on a frozen pallet, it would have been on the outer wrapper as that is the only thing these workers are exposed to.  They wear a full coat and gloves so they should have been fairly well protected.
 
2020-08-12 9:34:42 PM  

CarnySaur: Bloomfield said surface testing was underway at an Auckland cool store where a man from the infected family worked.

Also, what is a "cool store"?


Spencer's Gifts.
 
2020-08-12 9:35:53 PM  
Some months back, China had a COVID-19 case cluster that they blamed on imported frozen salmon. China immediately updated its import regulations to require frozen goods to be disinfected.

The Fark Hive Mind said the Chinese were full of it and were only putting up trade barriers.

The PRC lies so much that no one ever knows when they're telling the truth, but this time it looks like they were right.
 
2020-08-12 9:45:33 PM  

Skeleton Man: CarnySaur: Bloomfield said surface testing was underway at an Auckland cool store where a man from the infected family worked.

Also, what is a "cool store"?

Spencer's Gifts.


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2020-08-12 9:53:02 PM  

Geotpf: edmo: What a luxury to be able to focus your search.

Yes, but if it really can stick around on, um, "stuff" for long enough to survive a trip from wherever to New Zealand, then we are all kind of farked.  Looks like the theory is in refrigerated food.

So, um, don't buy ice cream if you don't want to get Covid.


It's meat products you really have to be careful about. The virus rampages meat packing plants because there's heparin sulfate floating in the air as a consequence processing.  The virus grabs that heparin sulfate and uses it to bind with its target receptor.  It's part lego, part glue.  In my mind, I imagine dozens of Chinese peasants hacking dryly over a conveyer belt of chicken breasts.  It's probably not that bad, but it doesn't need to be.
 
2020-08-12 10:41:57 PM  
There were 13 new cases in NZ since yesterday.  3 of them were workers in the cold storage place and the one person that started this story had been out on sick leave for 9 days as of yesterday so it looks like they are at least 12 days into this outbreak.  That leaves 10 left most likely the road trip crew, finance company and Kiwis from Melbourne already in isolation.
 
2020-08-12 11:18:30 PM  

robodog: fragMasterFlash: So time for imported goods to get quarantined in storage with circulating ozonated air for 24 - 72 hours? Good luck with that.

Nah, ozone would destroy the packaging, better to use Cobalt 60 for irradiation, it's already used in 60 countries so it's a safe, known quantity.


Ozone is safe enough for your hot tub enjoyment, I think a happy germ-killing middle ground is achievable, although an 80% nitrogen - 20% oxygen medium to spread and circulate it might not the most efficient delivery mechanism available, although water damage recovery companies supposedly use air circulated ozone to reduce/eliminate mold spores.

ski9600: quicker to spray the packages/pallets with a backpack sprayer.  I think they are doing something similar on aeroplanes.  However, if you need to unload the pallet and spread out each package of shrimp or whatever it's going to take longer.


This guy sanitizes.
 
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