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(News 4 San Antonio)   Protip: If you have a work order to install solar panels on a two-story home, make sure you know what a two-story home looks like   (news4sanantonio.com) divider line
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2020-08-12 1:49:57 PM  
There's more than one story to this side.
 
2020-08-12 2:37:24 PM  
But hey, free solar power!
 
2020-08-12 2:40:37 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: There's more than one story to this side.


Sure, if you fail to read the article there might be more than one story to this side.
 
2020-08-12 2:41:10 PM  
What did they use to patch the holes with?  Also, I think I would be pissed because the color of it doesn't even match the roof.
 
2020-08-12 2:42:00 PM  

bughunter: But hey, free solar power!


Yeah, I'd have let them finish... then negotiate a "fair price" to not sue them for roof damage.  Say a set of working panels seems about fair.
 
2020-08-12 2:42:14 PM  

bughunter: But hey, free solar power!


They should have offered to give it to him for free to make up for the damage. In that case do my house next!
 
2020-08-12 2:44:52 PM  
"Slrpnls are good and you should buy as many slrpnls as you can. Like a thousand. Or a million. As long as it's some nice round number. And stock options. Then retire for 3 months. It's easy! I did it and I don't even know how to walk like a normal person."
- Rod
 
2020-08-12 2:45:34 PM  
They had the plans. They were on display. In a disused lavatory with a sign, "Beware of the Leopard."
 
2020-08-12 2:47:59 PM  
Roof repaired? I'd just make them install the solar. (at no cost of course)
 
2020-08-12 2:48:14 PM  

doomjesse: bughunter: But hey, free solar power!

Yeah, I'd have let them finish... then negotiate a "fair price" to not sue them for roof damage.  Say a set of working panels seems about fair.


Especially in San Antonio.  Would make a huge difference on your bills.
 
2020-08-12 2:49:03 PM  

Chuck87: What did they use to patch the holes with?  Also, I think I would be pissed because the color of it doesn't even match the roof.


They patched it with resin.

They totally eating it in court.
 
2020-08-12 2:49:30 PM  
had a buddy was a roofer. they would roof the wrong house 2 times a year easy. morans.
 
2020-08-12 2:52:03 PM  

sinko swimo: had a buddy was a roofer. they would roof the wrong house 2 times a year easy. morans.


The sad part is the house number was right on the guy's house.
 
2020-08-12 2:53:07 PM  

WhackingDay: Roof repaired? I'd just make them install the solar. (at no cost of course)


Counterpoint:

Do you want to have solar panels installed on your roof by people who can't read an address/ or figure out the house has the wrong number of stories, even at no cost?
 
2020-08-12 2:54:30 PM  
The reporter found an unlocked, empty office when trying to contact the company. Would you really want anything, even for free, from them?
 
2020-08-12 2:54:42 PM  

Chuck87: sinko swimo: had a buddy was a roofer. they would roof the wrong house 2 times a year easy. morans.

The sad part is the house number was right on the guy's house.


Shoulda put it on the roof.
 
2020-08-12 3:09:32 PM  
Another no-knock solar panel installation.
 
2020-08-12 3:23:44 PM  
Damn, and I thought those "starving artists" on the subway were aggressive for demanding $5 bucks for some shiatty CD they signed in front of me, this is level 10.
 
2020-08-12 3:29:07 PM  

Brewster: The reporter found an unlocked, empty office when trying to contact the company. Would you really want anything, even for free, from them?


I mean I work with people who can't read a farking tape measure. The trades get some... special... individuals
 
2020-08-12 3:44:01 PM  
Honestly, part of me thought they'd installed the panels on top of the first floor.
 
2020-08-12 3:44:29 PM  
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2020-08-12 3:48:23 PM  
Looks like a "meh" neighborhood at best, DBHorton or Ellison. Translation= cheap houses.
 
2020-08-12 3:59:27 PM  
Roofers are not Mensa members.
 
2020-08-12 4:02:45 PM  

sinko swimo: had a buddy was a roofer. they would roof the wrong house 2 times a year easy. morans.


Damn. Were they taking roofies?
 
2020-08-12 4:04:56 PM  
"They started apologizing because they got confused by the GPS, "Avila said. "They obviously got the wrong address."
An address clearly marked on the front of his home.


Google Maps will often put you a half-block or more from the correct house. They are confused because complete idiots live a life of confusion.
 
2020-08-12 4:09:13 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Marcus Aurelius: There's more than one story to this side.

Sure, if you fail to read the article there might be more than one story to this side.


If I don't even TRY to read the article, then I can hardly have "failed".
 
2020-08-12 4:15:35 PM  
This stuff isn't uncommon. I few years ago there was a story of a wrong house getting demolished, I've heard of evictions enforced on the wrong house, etc.

Couple years ago I had a roofing company show up to a townhome complex I manage and begin replacing the roofs. The Superintendent was on vacation, so the property was being covered from off-site, and most of the tenants weren't home when the work began. By the time we found out late in the day they had loaded material on all roofs, and had stripped a block of 8 units. The problem was a mix up over street names: Ours was XXXXX Rd. W., and they were supposed to go the XXXXX Rd. E. By coincidence both sites were townhome complexes of similar size and design.

Resolving things got ugly. The roofing company felt they deserved some compensation for the work they did and cited the fact that the roof were in need of replacement and threatened to leave the stripped roof bare unless we agreed to pay half the cost. I ended up having to have the police remove them from the site and have my regular roofers tarp the one block. It went to SCC in the end and we won the ~$20,000 in costs however it was an empty victory since the company went bankrupt shortly after and we were so far down the list of creditors that there was no hope of any payment.
 
2020-08-12 4:16:13 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: DarkSoulNoHope: Marcus Aurelius: There's more than one story to this side.

Sure, if you fail to read the article there might be more than one story to this side.

If I don't even TRY to read the article, then I can hardly have "failed".


Fail is the proper term. If you get a ticket for "failure to signal", it doesn't matter if the taillight is broken or you didn't hit the switch, it's the same fail.
 
2020-08-12 4:20:24 PM  
Several instances of this almost occurred in my neighborhood..  contractor shows up, starts unloading equipment, and several neighbors walk over and ask to see the work order.. if the contractor refuses to show it, the cops are called, and they ask to see it..  three times, wrong address or scam.   be legit or GTFO.
 
2020-08-12 4:31:38 PM  
doomjesse:

And cheaper than a new roof andland costs
 
2020-08-12 4:41:59 PM  
CSB:  In my college years in the late 80s, I had a summer job installing fireplaces, and the boss/owner was an alcoholic ex-sheriff who started drinking at was breakfast and was always hammered by noon.

One day he transposed two numbers in a job address, and sent that crew (not mine) to the wrong house.  When the contractor from the right house called--because the promised units hadn't been installed--the boss had that crew rip them out and move them to the right house.  Just left the holes in the roofs and walls.

I was supposed to help, but he was going to have to pay me more than four bucks an hour to commit a crime for him.  So I went and got high instead, which I still think was the right call.
 
2020-08-12 4:45:36 PM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: I was supposed to help, but he was going to have to pay me more than four bucks an hour to commit a crime for him. So I went and got high instead, which I still think was the right call.


This was an excellent decision.
 
2020-08-12 5:07:00 PM  

halifaxdatageek: Honestly, part of me thought they'd installed the panels on top of the first floor.


"Ain't going to get much sun on these 'ere panels when they in the bedroom, but that's what this work order says ta do. 'On top of the first story'. Right thar."
 
2020-08-12 5:12:31 PM  

Tyrosine: This stuff isn't uncommon. I few years ago there was a story of a wrong house getting demolished, I've heard of evictions enforced on the wrong house, etc.

Couple years ago I had a roofing company show up to a townhome complex I manage and begin replacing the roofs. The Superintendent was on vacation, so the property was being covered from off-site, and most of the tenants weren't home when the work began. By the time we found out late in the day they had loaded material on all roofs, and had stripped a block of 8 units. The problem was a mix up over street names: Ours was XXXXX Rd. W., and they were supposed to go the XXXXX Rd. E. By coincidence both sites were townhome complexes of similar size and design.

Resolving things got ugly. The roofing company felt they deserved some compensation for the work they did and cited the fact that the roof were in need of replacement and threatened to leave the stripped roof bare unless we agreed to pay half the cost. I ended up having to have the police remove them from the site and have my regular roofers tarp the one block. It went to SCC in the end and we won the ~$20,000 in costs however it was an empty victory since the company went bankrupt shortly after and we were so far down the list of creditors that there was no hope of any payment.


I wonder if that's a scam they just pull sometimes. Just purposely do the "wrong" house, and when things are good and farked up (they never seem to realize the mistake when work is complete), then they "notice they got the wrong." They offer a "discounted" rate or they leave your roof farked up. And if you sue, no problem, they will be a new company in 3 months anyway.
 
2020-08-12 5:18:21 PM  

MythDragon: Tyrosine: This stuff isn't uncommon. I few years ago there was a story of a wrong house getting demolished, I've heard of evictions enforced on the wrong house, etc.

Couple years ago I had a roofing company show up to a townhome complex I manage and begin replacing the roofs. The Superintendent was on vacation, so the property was being covered from off-site, and most of the tenants weren't home when the work began. By the time we found out late in the day they had loaded material on all roofs, and had stripped a block of 8 units. The problem was a mix up over street names: Ours was XXXXX Rd. W., and they were supposed to go the XXXXX Rd. E. By coincidence both sites were townhome complexes of similar size and design.

Resolving things got ugly. The roofing company felt they deserved some compensation for the work they did and cited the fact that the roof were in need of replacement and threatened to leave the stripped roof bare unless we agreed to pay half the cost. I ended up having to have the police remove them from the site and have my regular roofers tarp the one block. It went to SCC in the end and we won the ~$20,000 in costs however it was an empty victory since the company went bankrupt shortly after and we were so far down the list of creditors that there was no hope of any payment.

I wonder if that's a scam they just pull sometimes. Just purposely do the "wrong" house, and when things are good and farked up (they never seem to realize the mistake when work is complete), then they "notice they got the wrong." They offer a "discounted" rate or they leave your roof farked up. And if you sue, no problem, they will be a new company in 3 months anyway.


Seems to be the case, when according to the news article, the office that was registered by the company was empty and unlocked. Situations like this is when it should turn into a criminal investigation when previously it was seemingly just a civil matter.
 
2020-08-12 5:22:51 PM  

MythDragon: Tyrosine: This stuff isn't uncommon. I few years ago there was a story of a wrong house getting demolished, I've heard of evictions enforced on the wrong house, etc.

Couple years ago I had a roofing company show up to a townhome complex I manage and begin replacing the roofs. The Superintendent was on vacation, so the property was being covered from off-site, and most of the tenants weren't home when the work began. By the time we found out late in the day they had loaded material on all roofs, and had stripped a block of 8 units. The problem was a mix up over street names: Ours was XXXXX Rd. W., and they were supposed to go the XXXXX Rd. E. By coincidence both sites were townhome complexes of similar size and design.

Resolving things got ugly. The roofing company felt they deserved some compensation for the work they did and cited the fact that the roof were in need of replacement and threatened to leave the stripped roof bare unless we agreed to pay half the cost. I ended up having to have the police remove them from the site and have my regular roofers tarp the one block. It went to SCC in the end and we won the ~$20,000 in costs however it was an empty victory since the company went bankrupt shortly after and we were so far down the list of creditors that there was no hope of any payment.

I wonder if that's a scam they just pull sometimes. Just purposely do the "wrong" house, and when things are good and farked up (they never seem to realize the mistake when work is complete), then they "notice they got the wrong." They offer a "discounted" rate or they leave your roof farked up. And if you sue, no problem, they will be a new company in 3 months anyway.


I had windows installed in a house a few years ago. I made sure to get at least three contractors out for a quotation, which is harder than it sounds. The first one was a scammer. He lied about his product, the company, the competitiors products, and probably everything else too. But he also was sooooo easy to come out and do a quotation. I am so glad I made myself wait for the other quotes to be done because it was painfully obvious we would have been screwed royally had we gone with the scammer. His technique relied upon being the first and only company to quote on a project. So be on the lookout for that.
 
2020-08-12 5:23:31 PM  

MythDragon: Tyrosine: This stuff isn't uncommon. I few years ago there was a story of a wrong house getting demolished, I've heard of evictions enforced on the wrong house, etc.

Couple years ago I had a roofing company show up to a townhome complex I manage and begin replacing the roofs. The Superintendent was on vacation, so the property was being covered from off-site, and most of the tenants weren't home when the work began. By the time we found out late in the day they had loaded material on all roofs, and had stripped a block of 8 units. The problem was a mix up over street names: Ours was XXXXX Rd. W., and they were supposed to go the XXXXX Rd. E. By coincidence both sites were townhome complexes of similar size and design.

Resolving things got ugly. The roofing company felt they deserved some compensation for the work they did and cited the fact that the roof were in need of replacement and threatened to leave the stripped roof bare unless we agreed to pay half the cost. I ended up having to have the police remove them from the site and have my regular roofers tarp the one block. It went to SCC in the end and we won the ~$20,000 in costs however it was an empty victory since the company went bankrupt shortly after and we were so far down the list of creditors that there was no hope of any payment.

I wonder if that's a scam they just pull sometimes. Just purposely do the "wrong" house, and when things are good and farked up (they never seem to realize the mistake when work is complete), then they "notice they got the wrong." They offer a "discounted" rate or they leave your roof farked up. And if you sue, no problem, they will be a new company in 3 months anyway.


I'm sure such scams do happen. In this case, because there was court action, we had access to documents that backed up the roofer's story, so I'm confident it was a legit mistake.
 
2020-08-12 5:33:16 PM  
Offered 10 years of roof inspections.

2021: Yep, roof still damaged...
2022: Yep, roof still damaged...
Etc...
 
2020-08-12 6:45:06 PM  
Avila was hard at work one early June morning when his wife and two other adults got the surprise wake-up call.

/giggity
 
2020-08-12 7:19:33 PM  
 
2020-08-12 9:08:27 PM  
I'm in the process of doing solar on the cheap.  The panels for a 3kw system are only about US$1,000  now.  The locals want to sign me up for a government grant and loan, charge me a few thousand on top of the loan, own the green certificates while providing about $2,500 worth of work and equipment that they get paid close to $10,000 for.
 
2020-08-13 2:00:39 AM  
Article published Aug 11 about an incident that happened back in June? Sounds like the owner called the press to help his case against the solar company.
 
2020-08-13 5:00:34 AM  
What's he complaining about? He got a bunch of free little skylights.
 
2020-08-13 10:59:47 AM  

ShowStop: Article published Aug 11 about an incident that happened back in June? Sounds like the owner called the press to help his case against the solar company.


Considering in July/August (I assume) when the News 4 San Antonio station went to the company's registered address and found an empty and unlocked office, I would say the owner is sadly going to be SOL (if he isn't already) because of this company seemingly not being a legit one. Also the speculation that this is a company that finds homes that look pricey and just install solar when the family isn't home, just to give a "discounted" rate to have the owner keep the solar panels when they find panels they didn't order on the roof, seems more credible when the business you're suing has no physical office at the address registered with the State of Texas.
 
2020-08-13 11:11:50 AM  

Don Gato: What's he complaining about? He got a bunch of free little skylights.


I just paid $1,200 to get a "herd, gaggle, shiat storm" of rats out of my attic, they have been keeping me up for 6 months, so please no jokes about roofs. A few died recently because my closet smells like death right now.  The ones I took out on the other side of the house had maggots.

I hate rats in my roof.

As a pet I love them, they are super smart and loving, I also love mice, just not in my roof keeping me up all night eating my wiring and making beds of my insulation and air ducts.

Here is my cat Linus with Black-Black mouse on his head, they would always play.  My daughters named them so no Black-Black jokes..
Also this is my neighbor holding our Madagascar roach Shelly. We had a dozen, she was the biggest.

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2020-08-13 3:21:33 PM  

DigitalDirt: Don Gato: What's he complaining about? He got a bunch of free little skylights.

I just paid $1,200 to get a "herd, gaggle, shiat storm" of rats out of my attic, they have been keeping me up for 6 months, so please no jokes about roofs. A few died recently because my closet smells like death right now.  The ones I took out on the other side of the house had maggots.

I hate rats in my roof.

As a pet I love them, they are super smart and loving, I also love mice, just not in my roof keeping me up all night eating my wiring and making beds of my insulation and air ducts.

Here is my cat Linus with Black-Black mouse on his head, they would always play.  My daughters named them so no Black-Black jokes..
Also this is my neighbor holding our Madagascar roach Shelly. We had a dozen, she was the biggest.

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Brave gal... how much did you have to pay her to hold that thing?    :o)
 
2020-08-13 9:10:26 PM  
She was fearless, she spent many nights at my house playing with my daughters before dinner for many months even though I never met her mom.  Her brother would swing by and check on her, he was 12, I always left the door wide open.  No I don't think her mom was very good.  I guess her mom trusted me even though never meeting me because my two daughters went to her house before.
 
2020-08-13 9:17:17 PM  
Did you know they are born white, then turn brown within a day?

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