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(The Hill)   If Trump wins re-election his goal will be ending payroll taxes. So you know defunding Medicare and Social Security. Wonder if many of his supporters would be hurt by that, wonder if it would be worth it to them because stigginit   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-08-12 9:02:58 AM  
You mean the ones who didn't sacrifice their lives so the economy could grow?
 
2020-08-12 9:08:36 AM  
GOP this is a PR nightmare
I got it let's say Munchy has a plan to replenish this dollar for dollar, we don't know what it is because he hasn't told us but he totally has a plan
 
2020-08-12 9:09:51 AM  

spongeboob: GOP this is a PR nightmare
I got it let's say Munchy has a plan to replenish this dollar for dollar, we don't know what it is because he hasn't told us but he totally has a plan


And if we win we'll let you know what it is.

In two weeks.
 
2020-08-12 9:12:38 AM  
Owning libs is always worth it even if it takes them to the grave.
 
2020-08-12 9:19:59 AM  
If he wins I hope he succeeds.

If we're going to burn everything down, may as well start with the assholes who put him there.
 
2020-08-12 9:21:28 AM  
That's like my relative that complains the government is spending too much then lamenting that his company didn't get the government contracts they were expecting.
 
2020-08-12 9:25:44 AM  
Clearly he's unhappy with the coronavirus taking so much time killing off old people, he needs to add some starvation and hypothermia to the mix. Jared's hedge fund buddies Chip, Chad and Skidmark were promised that Social Security fund and they are going to get it before the world hyperyacht market cools off.
 
2020-08-12 9:28:39 AM  
Most of the ones currently on the two will be dead before the bill comes due.
 
2020-08-12 9:41:06 AM  
Old people?  Fark 'em, they'll still vote for Trump anyway.
 
2020-08-12 10:05:16 AM  
They will gladly sacrifice themselves to Nurgle
 
2020-08-12 10:06:04 AM  
They'll gladly line up to die for their fearful leader.
 
2020-08-12 10:06:05 AM  
Dont plan on being around to qualify for them honestly. I would rather check out on my own than play the old people game in a shiattier world with global warming killing us all in full swing in 30 years
 
2020-08-12 10:07:41 AM  
Great point, because if there's one thing that modern-day conservatives understand, it's basic finance, basic budgeting, basic math, and basic delayed gratification. THIS will surely be the thing that makes them finally realize Trump is a dumb hombre (possible portmenteau: dumb-bre)
 
2020-08-12 10:07:54 AM  
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They don't give a shiat.
 
2020-08-12 10:08:24 AM  
Ending social security and Medicare has been the GOP wet dream goal for about 60 years.

Trump is just accelerating their timelines
 
2020-08-12 10:08:29 AM  

lifeslammer: Dont plan on being around to qualify for them honestly. I would rather check out on my own than play the old people game in a shiattier world with global warming killing us all in full swing in 30 years


I'm banking on global warming taking over so I can grow coffee, citrus, avocados, and weed in Montana.
 
2020-08-12 10:09:38 AM  
Are used to think it was just incompetence but now I am on the Putin is pulling the strings team. The president of United States is a Russian agent actively trying to weekend America. Even typing that it sounds like it should be a movie plot but it's reality.
 
2020-08-12 10:09:49 AM  
Yeah, replaced by a better plan.  He'll be signing it into law.  In 2 weeks.  Believe me.
 
2020-08-12 10:10:07 AM  
Yes and yes.

If there's one thing white Americans have been consistent on through history, it's that we will accept a LOT of degradation if we can be assured that there's a browner group of people who has it worse than us.
 
2020-08-12 10:10:29 AM  
Yes, they would be hurt by that.
No, they wouldn't understand or care if they did.
 
2020-08-12 10:11:21 AM  
Most of these fogeys are already in their 60s and probably don't expect to crack 75.  Killing off payroll taxes (and thereby the SS fund with it) will affect their lives exactly none, which is all that matters to Boomers.
 
2020-08-12 10:11:58 AM  
Like any of that matters to a Red Hat. Their God-Emperor decreed it.
 
2020-08-12 10:11:59 AM  
This is just pure F*cking madness!

Destroying Social Security literally overnight. Not merely cutting it. Actually, straight-out wiping it out, literally overnight.

I know that Trump is a sociopath and so are the rest of the GOP, but are they even fathoming the massive human toll that would inflict? Suddenly, millions of elderly and disable people lose EVERYTHING and end up homeless within 24 hours.

This is a textbook definition of genocide. I wish this was hyperbole, but the sudden collapse of Social Security would create a sudden short-term death toll that even Covid-19 couldn't accomplish.
 
2020-08-12 10:12:04 AM  

Fishmongers' Daughters: Yes and yes.

If there's one thing white Americans have been consistent on through history, it's that we will accept a LOT of degradation if we can be assured that there's a browner group of people who has it worse than us.



The spitefulness of white Americans is unlike anything I've ever seen.  It puts the masochistic nihilism of Russians to shame.
 
2020-08-12 10:12:08 AM  
His supporters think that would be farking awesome because his supporters are rich people
 
2020-08-12 10:12:26 AM  

KungFuJunkie: Owning libs is always worth it even if it takes them to the grave.


/Oblig.

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2020-08-12 10:13:18 AM  

spongeboob: GOP this is a PR nightmare
I got it let's say Munchy has a plan to replenish this dollar for dollar, we don't know what it is because he hasn't told us but he totally has a plan


Yep, Donnie isn't just touching the third rail, he's superglued his hand to it.
 
2020-08-12 10:13:29 AM  

spongeboob: GOP this is a PR nightmare
I got it let's say Munchy has a plan to replenish this dollar for dollar, we don't know what it is because he hasn't told us but he totally has a plan


He will let us know what is in it after it passes.
 
2020-08-12 10:13:38 AM  
It's ok. He plans to file bankruptcy in 2024 and just shaft any creditors.  It's always worked before!
 
2020-08-12 10:13:53 AM  

KungFuJunkie: Owning libs is always worth it even if it takes them to the grave.


Never underestimate the morivating power of spite.
 
2020-08-12 10:14:14 AM  
Can we just stop pretending that the GOP is not a cult and they will start voting by self interest like rational adults? They are out there right now, not wearing masks, killing each other while chanting "Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Throne!"
 
2020-08-12 10:14:16 AM  

gilgigamesh: If he wins I hope he succeeds.

If we're going to burn everything down, may as well start with the assholes who put him there.


Excuse me? I don't think people who need Social Security as much as everyone needs oxygen voted for that Orange POS. It's the McMansion a**holes who made this Holocaust happen.
 
2020-08-12 10:14:53 AM  
Storm the mother farking white house like it's Normandy. Can't kill us all.
 
2020-08-12 10:15:26 AM  
He'll be fine.  These are the people that finance motorcycles and take out 84 month loans on F-250s.  They don't understand at all why you would defer instant gratification.  It's a "tax cut".  They'll love it.  Then they'll whine in 20 years that there's no social security and accuse the libs of stealing it to give to those people.
 
2020-08-12 10:15:58 AM  

Pugdaddyk: Storm the mother farking white house like it's Normandy. Can't kill us all.


Let's see them aliens!
 
2020-08-12 10:16:02 AM  
Where is Kirk to say what should happen to them?
 
2020-08-12 10:16:44 AM  
I never planned on social security and medicare being solvent when I retire and have planned accordingly.

If you are going to rely on politicians for your daily care.. you are a special kind of stupid..

Irresponsibly government under both parties have become a feature instead of a bug and I don't see responsibility ever coming back in vogue within my lifetime.
 
2020-08-12 10:17:22 AM  

spongeboob: GOP this is a PR nightmare
I got it let's say Munchy has a plan to replenish this dollar for dollar, we don't know what it is because he hasn't told us but he totally has a plan


Currently the line I'm seeing is this: "he's not cutting social security, he's just deferring payments."
 
2020-08-12 10:18:16 AM  

Rapmaster2000: He'll be fine.  These are the people that finance motorcycles and take out 84 month loans on F-250s.  They don't understand at all why you would defer instant gratification.  It's a "tax cut".  They'll love it.  Then they'll whine in 20 years that there's no social security and accuse the libs of stealing it to give to those people.


Kind of like all those idiot college kids taking out student loans that they know from day one that they will very little opportunity to pay back.

Educational grants and college loans need to be thrown in the ash pile of history.
 
2020-08-12 10:19:30 AM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: spongeboob: GOP this is a PR nightmare
I got it let's say Munchy has a plan to replenish this dollar for dollar, we don't know what it is because he hasn't told us but he totally has a plan

Currently the line I'm seeing is this: "he's not cutting social security, he's just deferring payments."


Then he can defer tax cuts he gave the rich to fund social security, or else golf will be criminalized.
 
2020-08-12 10:20:09 AM  

Yakk: Can we just stop pretending that the GOP is not a cult and they will start voting by self interest like rational adults? They are out there right now, not wearing masks, killing each other while chanting "Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Throne!"


I'm getting a more nurgly and slaaneshy vibe from them right now but yeah.
 
2020-08-12 10:21:37 AM  
He couldn't repeal the aca, and you think if he gets another term he'll take out ss and medicare?  Not likely.  That'll take work, which he despises.
 
2020-08-12 10:21:54 AM  

dwrash: I never planned on social security and medicare being solvent when I retire and have planned accordingly.

If you are going to rely on politicians for your daily care.. you are a special kind of stupid..

Irresponsibly government under both parties have become a feature instead of a bug and I don't see responsibility ever coming back in vogue within my lifetime.


The only way it won't be there is we let conservatives - in both parties - kill it.  Which means we let conservatives STEAL from us.  

Ain't gonna happen.
 
2020-08-12 10:22:36 AM  
Good old bootstrappy republicans wouldn't want any of those socialist government handouts anyway, right? They're hard-working, salt of the earth, everyday mom and pop American go-getters who work for a living.
 
2020-08-12 10:23:30 AM  

LeroyBourne: That'll take work, which he despises.


or it will take the Supreme Court allowing him to do it by executive order
 
2020-08-12 10:24:11 AM  

imapirate: Good old bootstrappy republicans wouldn't want any of those socialist government handouts anyway, right? They're hard-working, salt of the earth, everyday mom and pop American go-getters who work for a living.


They already build a corporate slush fund. They love welfare when it goes to people who absolutely dont need it at all.
 
2020-08-12 10:24:35 AM  

dwrash: I never planned on social security and medicare being solvent when I retire and have planned accordingly.

If you are going to rely on politicians for your daily care.. you are a special kind of stupid..

Irresponsibly government under both parties have become a feature instead of a bug and I don't see responsibility ever coming back in vogue within my lifetime.


Social Security
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2020-08-12 10:24:43 AM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: This is just pure F*cking madness!

Destroying Social Security literally overnight. Not merely cutting it. Actually, straight-out wiping it out, literally overnight.

I know that Trump is a sociopath and so are the rest of the GOP, but are they even fathoming the massive human toll that would inflict? Suddenly, millions of elderly and disable people lose EVERYTHING and end up homeless within 24 hours.

This is a textbook definition of genocide. I wish this was hyperbole, but the sudden collapse of Social Security would create a sudden short-term death toll that even Covid-19 couldn't accomplish.


Yes, that's why the're masturbating furiously
 
2020-08-12 10:26:18 AM  
DEFUNDING SOCIAL SECURITY will make great ads....by Meidas and Lincoln project and vets against Trump.

And if you're like, well I'm a teacher and I don't collect SS...then YOU DO NOT GET A TAX CUT, YOU MORON!
 
2020-08-12 10:26:42 AM  
There's no way Trump actually gives a shiat about payroll taxes, so the real question is who is pushing him to do this?
 
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