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(NPR)   Oregon District Attorney responsible for Portland: Just because Trump's brownshirt DHS thugs arrested a bunch of protesters doesn't mean I have to press charges against them   (npr.org) divider line
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2020-08-12 8:34:50 AM  
Wait the protestors or the DHS thugs?
 
2020-08-12 8:37:41 AM  
Unless the DHS officers gave their full names and governmental identification on the arrest reports, either as the arresting officers or supposed victims, it would be a complete waste of time, anyway.  This was an intimidation tactic, nothing more.
 
2020-08-12 8:38:34 AM  

RyogaM: Unless the DHS officers gave their full names and governmental identification on the arrest reports, either as the arresting officers or supposed victims, it would be a complete waste of time, anyway.  This was an intimidation tactic, nothing more.


And as such things go it completely failed
 
2020-08-12 8:39:27 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: RyogaM: Unless the DHS officers gave their full names and governmental identification on the arrest reports, either as the arresting officers or supposed victims, it would be a complete waste of time, anyway.  This was an intimidation tactic, nothing more.

And as such things go it completely failed


Trump's gestapo got beaten into a humiliating retreat by moms and hipsters.

Get f*cked, fascists.
 
2020-08-12 8:39:30 AM  

RyogaM: Unless the DHS officers gave their full names and governmental identification on the arrest reports, either as the arresting officers or supposed victims, it would be a complete waste of time, anyway.  This was an intimidation tactic, nothing more.


They would also have to be willing to come back for a trial.  I can imagine an ACLU defense attorney salivating over that concept.
 
2020-08-12 8:41:06 AM  
At this point, it would be a bigger surprise if he did press charges.  Gotta stick it to the orange man.
 
2020-08-12 8:42:03 AM  
WTF dude? Do your damn job! (unless, of course, you're being ordered not to, then tell us who is ordering you)

Guess we have to leave this to the ACLU
 
2020-08-12 8:43:25 AM  
The DHS knows that Hitler disbanded the brownshirts and had the leaders killed when the Waffen SS replaced them, right?
 
2020-08-12 8:43:49 AM  
Barr will create some kind of super national freedom enforcement prosecutorial accountability task force, that will round up dangerous people, BEFORE they have a chance to damage America, or help Biden hurt God.  Not arrest them, that would require all kinds of messy procedure. They will just be removed from society, for the common good, of course.
 
2020-08-12 8:44:39 AM  

Jake Havechek: The DHS knows that Hitler disbanded the brownshirts and had the leaders killed when the Waffen SS replaced them, right?


Everyone in a fascist movement knows "they're one of the good ones".
 
2020-08-12 8:45:13 AM  

rbuzby: Barr will create some kind of super national freedom enforcement prosecutorial accountability task force, that will round up dangerous people, BEFORE they have a chance to damage America, or help Biden hurt God.  Not arrest them, that would require all kinds of messy procedure. They will just be removed from society, for the common good, of course.


Missouri is trying to do that on a state level right now.
 
2020-08-12 8:46:12 AM  

bthom37: Jake Havechek: The DHS knows that Hitler disbanded the brownshirts and had the leaders killed when the Waffen SS replaced them, right?

Everyone in a fascist movement knows "they're one of the good ones".


Yup fascists never expect the backstabbing coming from their own side... same with communists. People have tunnel vision.
 
2020-08-12 8:48:16 AM  
Hopefully the next step is pursuing charges against whatever stasi have been able to be identified.
 
2020-08-12 8:50:18 AM  
This is not necessarily a good thing if the cops use increased violence as an excuse to bring higher charges, knowing anything less will be dismissed.
 
2020-08-12 8:50:27 AM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: At this point, it would be a bigger surprise if he did press charges.  Gotta stick it to the orange man.


Yes, by only considering prosecuting protesters who were accused of "deliberate property damage, theft or force against another person or threats of force " instead of just 'being in the vicinity of Trump's goons', he's 'sticking it to the orange man'.

Fark off, fascist.
 
2020-08-12 8:53:00 AM  
I'm waiting for the DoJ to complain about prosecutorial discretion here while defending their actions regards Flynn.
 
2020-08-12 8:53:19 AM  
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2020-08-12 8:53:22 AM  
Hang on.  So those "feds" that kidnapped people, need the local AG to press the charges?  If the AG will not press those charges, doesn't that make what those "feds" did kidnapping?
 
2020-08-12 8:53:52 AM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: At this point, it would be a bigger surprise if he did press charges.  Gotta stick it to the orange man.


By following the laws of the land, yes.  Another corrupt stab against Daddy Trump clearly!
 
2020-08-12 8:54:39 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [do0bihdskp9dy.cloudfront.net image 850x478]


I am not sure what you are showing here.  Is it the rubbish or the graf?  Regardless it doesn't show what the "feds" did the night before.
 
2020-08-12 8:56:58 AM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: At this point, it would be a bigger surprise if he did press charges.  Gotta stick it to the orange man.


Well you make it easy to colour you, light orange, because you are not even evil enough to deserve dark orange.
 
2020-08-12 8:57:48 AM  
Not to mention the Feds repeatedly violated their restraining order by targeting the press with weapons, trying to prevent them from recording events, and in some cases, arresting them without cause.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/​f​ederal-agents-shoot-portland-reporter-​hours-after-judge-issues-restraining-o​rder-to-protect-journalists-during-pro​tests/
 
2020-08-12 8:58:17 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [do0bihdskp9dy.cloudfront.net image 850x478]


The horror.
 
2020-08-12 8:59:29 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [do0bihdskp9dy.cloudfront.net image 850x478]


OMG a janitor would need 20, maybe 30 minutes to to sweep all that up. The horror.
 
2020-08-12 8:59:51 AM  
Makes sense.  Unlawful arrests, inadequate evidence, etc.

Fruit of a poison tree.
 
2020-08-12 8:59:57 AM  
My wife's got a package from her mother that has been sitting in a Los Angeles mail hub since July 27th
 
2020-08-12 9:00:42 AM  
oops wrong thread
 
2020-08-12 9:02:46 AM  

Langdon_777: Hang on.  So those "feds" that kidnapped people, need the local AG to press the charges?  If the AG will not press those charges, doesn't that make what those "feds" did kidnapping?


No, federal charges would be in the hands of the relevant Federal District Attorney anyways. This has nothing to do with people arrested by federal LEOs and the County DA has no say whatsoever. As pretty par for the course, subby is dumb
 
2020-08-12 9:05:31 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [do0bihdskp9dy.cloudfront.net image 850x478]


Post something not farking dumb someday.
 
2020-08-12 9:09:23 AM  

Jake Havechek: The DHS knows that Hitler disbanded the brownshirts and had the leaders killed when the Waffen SS replaced them, right?


I expect that their knowledge of history extends to reading the chapter title, thinking ""The Night of Long Knives" sounds metal awesome!", and nothing more

/ I mean, if they'd paid attention in history they'd know that the fascists - how should I word this... - didn't win
 
2020-08-12 9:11:02 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [do0bihdskp9dy.cloudfront.net image 850x478]


Looks clean, compared to after Thunder Over Louisville, or even the Derby.
 
2020-08-12 9:12:06 AM  
They will be brought up on federal charges.
 
2020-08-12 9:12:10 AM  
Also, since federal cops arrested detained/kidnapped the people, with no official (or unofficial) agreement with the state, city, or county, it would seem that these people would have to be charged federally anyway, wouldn't they? I don't remember hearing where the feds swoop in, get to tell you who they think needs to be arrested, make those arrests, and dump them on your doorstep for prosecution anyway...
 
2020-08-12 9:14:59 AM  
Can't prosecute an agent for illegally detaining someone if they don't wear identification.

/eddiemurphy.gif
 
2020-08-12 9:15:20 AM  

dwrash: They will be brought up on federal charges.


Post something not farking dumb someday.
 
2020-08-12 9:15:21 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [do0bihdskp9dy.cloudfront.net image 850x478]


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2020-08-12 9:16:45 AM  
The smart thing would be follow through with the charges.  Then you can make a very public spectacle of how ridiculous it was that the people were arrested in the first place and how little evidence there was of wrong doing.

A jury will have no problem acquitting, and everybody can point at laugh at how  Trump's SS nazied the ppl of Portland.

(Unless the evidence doesn't actually show that)
 
2020-08-12 9:18:23 AM  

dwrash: They will be brought up on federal charges.


Who, for what?
 
2020-08-12 9:18:57 AM  
Also LOL at the guy who thinks a former DA is a bad VP pick saying that.
 
2020-08-12 9:21:51 AM  

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2020-08-12 9:24:20 AM  
It is morally, ethically, and legally justified to resist unlawful action by trump's gestapo thugs by any means necessary


He's smart enough to know Portland jurors would see that also
 
2020-08-12 9:24:30 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [do0bihdskp9dy.cloudfront.net image 850x478]


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2020-08-12 9:25:18 AM  
So a lot of people in this thread are just as ignorant as subby. Shocking.
 
2020-08-12 9:33:09 AM  

dirkhardly: So a lot of people in this thread are just as ignorant as subby. Shocking.


The important thing is that you feel superior for no reason
 
2020-08-12 9:33:42 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: dwrash: They will be brought up on federal charges.

Who, for what?


If they are destroying federal property, they should receive federal charges and the Portland district attorney should have no say in it.
 
2020-08-12 9:33:48 AM  
And people who are alleging illegal arrests let alone anything legally resembling kidnapping, as far as anyone in the general public knows these federal LEOs could have identified protesters suspected of federal crimes, presented evidence of PC to a federal judge and were issued a perfectly legit arrest warrant. This isn't information generally available to the public (at least not initially) and yet look how many people keep claiming that didn't happen without any knowledge or evidence whatsoever. Probably the same kind of people who have no idea how federal vs state jurisdiction works.
 
2020-08-12 9:35:25 AM  

dwrash: cameroncrazy1984: dwrash: They will be brought up on federal charges.

Who, for what?

If they are destroying federal property, they should receive federal charges and the Portland district attorney should have no say in it.


These are people that were arrested nowhere near federal property and released with no bail and no charges. So I'm not sure where you get "destroying federal property" from that
 
2020-08-12 9:35:49 AM  

dirkhardly: And people who are alleging illegal arrests let alone anything legally resembling kidnapping, as far as anyone in the general public knows these federal LEOs could have identified protesters suspected of federal crimes, presented evidence of PC to a federal judge and were issued a perfectly legit arrest warrant. This isn't information generally available to the public (at least not initially) and yet look how many people keep claiming that didn't happen without any knowledge or evidence whatsoever. Probably the same kind of people who have no idea how federal vs state jurisdiction works.


They could have, but didn't.
 
2020-08-12 9:36:26 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: dirkhardly: So a lot of people in this thread are just as ignorant as subby. Shocking.

The important thing is that you feel superior for no reason


Feeling superior for being right about basic facts? On an anonymous message board? Maybe you should work on putting less wrong, stupid shiat out into the world. Or did you want to defend the supposed value of you posting stupid, wrong shiat?
 
2020-08-12 9:37:08 AM  

neongoats: Zeb Hesselgresser: [do0bihdskp9dy.cloudfront.net image 850x478]

OMG a janitor would need 20, maybe 30 minutes to to sweep all that up. The horror.


It looks like shiat.  I myself would not be proud to leave a public area looking like that.
 
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