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2020-08-11 10:52:59 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: BretMavrik: Irving Maimway: Raug the Dwarf: The parent should be happy the kid ate it, period.

My boys will eat just about anything you put in front of them and love trying new ethnic dishes. Their friends are hit or miss.  Some like eating at our house cause we always eat "weird stuff." Some, we heat up chicken nuggets for

Your nine year old ate lentils and liked them. That's a huge food win.

Thing One is single-handedly keeping these guys in business. I just picked up two more boxes for him yesterday.

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tasty bite is kinda meh to me.  costco had a different brand for like a month which i liked way more, but of course it disappeared.  bought those after a long time of avoiding them, thinking they couldn't be as meh as i remebered, but nope, still meh


Yeah they're not the best (they're a bit on the salty side for me), but we ended up getting them so he could pack them in his lunch and he got hooked on them. My wife's lentil dishes are better, but when a kid is voluntarily asking to eat some sort of vegetable you don't quibble too much over the delivery method.
 
2020-08-11 10:57:26 AM  
1. The notion that kids can't handle spicy food is utter crap. Every Indian parent I've ever known has fed their kids food that by North American standards is highly spicy without issue. In fact I'm pretty certain that 99.99999% of the population of India grew up on spicy food.

2. Did the kid like it? If so, what's the GD problem?
 
2020-08-11 10:59:25 AM  

Hooker with a Penis: I would love it if this happened since it would give me an excuse to take the kids out to Indian food all the time. Never heard of spicy hurting little tummies either, millions of kids in the Southwest get by just fine, not to mention the billions around the world who grew up without the convenience of frozen nuggets for 3 meals a day.


I consider myself pretty good on the spicy stuff, but even the kids in Indonesia will kick my ass when it comes to sambal (the red chili paste). One spoonful is enough for me, and even then I keep some "clean" rice on the side to finish with. They load up on that stuff.
 
2020-08-11 11:01:29 AM  
Wait, Aryan food isn't good enough, anymore?
 
2020-08-11 11:15:45 AM  
Neil's mom recounted to me how much chicken curry and lentils and vegetables Chris ate.

Your kid ate food with some actual flavor and liked it better than whatever bland boring crap you feed him
 
2020-08-11 11:17:34 AM  

Sin'sHero: Wait, Aryan food isn't good enough, anymore?


I see what you did there, but you don't know that it was an Aryan dish.  Lentils and curry could just as easily be Dravidian.
 
2020-08-11 11:19:45 AM  
yes get outraged and make sure you tell this story, first thing, to everyone you meet so that if i ever meet you i'll know to peace out ASAP and purge the interaction from memory.
 
2020-08-11 11:23:19 AM  
ftfa: '...When we came to pick up our son, Neil's (Indian) mom recounted to me how much chicken curry & vegetables my son ate. I couldn't believe that they served my son spicy curries without even calling!  I was taken aback and gently mentioned that spicy foods can be hard on small tummies, but it didn't seem to register. Thankfully my son Chris didn't get sick. My wife says to drop it'

Thinking that hubby is trying to make his son into a picky eater too...
 
2020-08-11 11:26:59 AM  

Sin'sHero: Wait, Aryan food isn't good enough, anymore?


When was it ever?
 
2020-08-11 11:33:56 AM  

Everything is Awful: Neil's mom recounted to me how much chicken curry and lentils and vegetables Chris ate.

Your kid ate food with some actual flavor and liked it better than whatever bland boring crap you feed him


It's hard for a lot of people to understand why, back in the day, something as seemingly mundane as spices caused wars and kicked off the Age of Exploration (and, inadvertently, colonization). But when all you've had to eat for the last 900 years has been beets and boiled boar, you'd be willing to go to war over a bag of nutmeg too.
 
2020-08-11 11:37:29 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Over a billion people have grown up eating Indian food and survived.


Yes, but compare that to the number of people that grew up eating Indian food and are now dead!
 
2020-08-11 11:48:51 AM  
A good parent would have would have checked on and approved the menu before agreeing to let their child eat at a friends house. You are obviously horrible parents who hate your child.
 
2020-08-11 11:51:54 AM  
Lucky kids.
I haven't had real Indian cuisine since March.

Dammit.
 
2020-08-11 11:55:32 AM  
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fark you butter chicken.
 
2020-08-11 12:02:19 PM  
1) I Could Murder A Curry: STFU and GTHOI.

2) He Wants His Home And Security.  He Wants To Live Like A Sailor At Sea: It's not like it's an unethical job, like say telemarketer.  Treat it like anyone else you might date who's a freelancer.  GTHOI or DTMFA.

3) The Couldn't Shut Up.  So I Hung Up: While I can't dismiss there being some actual vocal damage on your partner, I mostly think it's in your head.  I think you just want an excuse to DTMFA without guilt.

4) Grapefruit Diet!  Throw Out The Pizza And Beer: I know it's difficult to stay on task when losing weight, but having a nag will only produce resentment long term.  Best bet is to reduce temptation by keeping certain foods away.  Your partner should also make sure their thyroid activity has been checked.  That was a huge find for me.

5) I'm Just A Sucker With Low Self-Esteem: I don't see how you have any obligation to this person. Tell them to STFU and MYOB.

6) No Jokes, No Rights, Sit Tight, Don't Fool Around: There's no need to consult an advice columnist here.  If you are friends, you can bring this up.

7) I Leave My Entire Estate...To The People Of Calgary So The Can Afford To Move Somewhere Decent: The great thing is you can change it and not tell anyone other than the people involved in the legal process.  You won't be around to hear the complaints.  No one is entitled to your things, alive or dead, they are yours to distribute as you see fit.

8) Jon Jacob Jingleheimer-Schmidt: I had thought triple hyphenated last names were banned under the Geneva Convention, specifically as a war crime.  Anyway, you have a chance to end this atrocity.  Take it.

9) Murder A Curry II: Right, STFU and GTHOI.

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2020-08-11 12:11:18 PM  

BretMavrik: It's hard for a lot of people to understand why, back in the day, something as seemingly mundane as spices caused wars and kicked off the Age of Exploration (and, inadvertently, colonization). But when all you've had to eat for the last 900 years has been beets and boiled boar, you'd be willing to go to war over a bag of nutmeg too.


"Back in the day"?!

My grandparents were off-the-boat Norwegians. My childhood in the 1980s was cabbage, potatoes and cod boiled together. If we really let our hair down it was lutefisk on early Sunday afternoons (for supper)

And you're goddamn right I'll murder for some paneer tikka masala
 
2020-08-11 12:16:14 PM  
Just ate lunch, I made a big bowl of Nepalese Curry yesterday.  I made the recipe my own.  My favorite fresh veggies, and lots of them.  Cauliflower, broccoli, carrots, Scotch Bonnet peppers, Cayenne peppers, green beans and small zucchini.  A bit of chicken breast as well.  I use far more ground mustard, garlic and ginger than the recipe calls for.  A bit less tomato base.  Added some fish sauce, and peanut butter as well.

I'll make about six meals from it.  Will serve over short grained brown rice, over noodles, over farro, or with homemade naan bread. and will make some soup out of it as well.  The more delicate veggies were barely cooked so they don't turn to mush.  Lot's of flavor, healthy and versatile.

Secret ingredient:  Patek's Hot Lime Relish on some naan bread.  (I blend it to make it less chunky)  I also keep some pita bread frozen if I don't feel like making naan fresh.
 
2020-08-11 12:50:45 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: No Vindaloo for you, asshole.


The kid just wanted something to do.

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2020-08-11 12:52:16 PM  
No.
 
2020-08-11 1:08:21 PM  
So much stupid here and nothing at all to be outraged about.

1. Parents of the best friend are both born and raised in India, what did you think their preferred cuisine for home dining was going to be?

2. Parents of best friend are also both doctors and would be aware of any potential risks in what food they serve their son and in this case his friend.

3. Curry does not need to be blow your mind hot it can be tempered for personal preference like virtually any other spicy food.

4. I'm betting the parents of the kid in question did not bring up any dietary issues the boy may have or their concerns about what he is allowed to eat.  other as doctors i am sure  they would have taken them into consideration.

Short version : Uptight parents are unjustly outraged that those people fed their son indian food rather than local cuisine.

My response let it go entirely no harm no foul and maybe broaden your own horizons.
 
2020-08-11 1:22:45 PM  
That's a pretty awesome kid. Over at a friend's house and is offered strange food and scarfs it down. The kid's parents are now terrified that they can't just cycle between pizza, chicken tenders, and mac&cheese every night for dinner. They will have to, gasp, cook something interesting because apparently they have inadvertently raised a kid with a broader palette than theirs.
 
2020-08-11 1:30:03 PM  

SpectroBoy: Marcus Aurelius: No Vindaloo for you, asshole.

hmmmmm Vindaloo.....arrrrrrrgh


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2020-08-11 1:33:55 PM  

grimlock1972: My response let it go entirely no harm no foul and maybe broaden your own horizons.


Dude, you can't say that anymore.  To politically incorrect.  The correct term is "womanen your own courtesanizons".
 
2020-08-11 1:43:46 PM  

BretMavrik: Irving Maimway: Raug the Dwarf: The parent should be happy the kid ate it, period.

My boys will eat just about anything you put in front of them and love trying new ethnic dishes. Their friends are hit or miss.  Some like eating at our house cause we always eat "weird stuff." Some, we heat up chicken nuggets for

Your nine year old ate lentils and liked them. That's a huge food win.

Thing One is single-handedly keeping these guys in business. I just picked up two more boxes for him yesterday.

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Those are yummy!
 
2020-08-11 2:06:59 PM  

BretMavrik: Irving Maimway: Raug the Dwarf: The parent should be happy the kid ate it, period.

My boys will eat just about anything you put in front of them and love trying new ethnic dishes. Their friends are hit or miss.  Some like eating at our house cause we always eat "weird stuff." Some, we heat up chicken nuggets for

Your nine year old ate lentils and liked them. That's a huge food win.

Thing One is single-handedly keeping these guys in business. I just picked up two more boxes for him yesterday.

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Good chilli substitute.
 
2020-08-11 2:35:32 PM  
My Indian Food CSB:

When I was in the navy, my ship did a port visit in Singapore, myself and two of my friends wound up in an Indian restaurant for lunch.  It was a set menu, so we didn't exactly know what we were ordering.

Of the various dishes they brought out, one was a white lump in this yellow stuff.  All through lunch everybody was eyeing it, but nobody wanted to try it.  Eventually, I thought 'why not,' so I tried it.

Right after I ate it, both friends asked, "What was that?"

"It was a potato," I said.

"What was that yellow stuff?"

Butter.

Bottom line, because it was in an Indian restaurant - three Americans were afraid to eat a potato.
 
2020-08-11 2:39:58 PM  

Brandi Morgan: My Indian Food CSB:

When I was in the navy, my ship did a port visit in Singapore, myself and two of my friends wound up in an Indian restaurant for lunch.  It was a set menu, so we didn't exactly know what we were ordering.

Of the various dishes they brought out, one was a white lump in this yellow stuff.  All through lunch everybody was eyeing it, but nobody wanted to try it.  Eventually, I thought 'why not,' so I tried it.

Right after I ate it, both friends asked, "What was that?"

"It was a potato," I said.

"What was that yellow stuff?"

Butter.

Bottom line, because it was in an Indian restaurant - three Americans were afraid to eat a potato.


Once you clarified the ingredients, did your shipmates eat it with ghlee?
 
2020-08-11 2:59:49 PM  

Sin'sHero: Brandi Morgan: My Indian Food CSB:

When I was in the navy, my ship did a port visit in Singapore, myself and two of my friends wound up in an Indian restaurant for lunch.  It was a set menu, so we didn't exactly know what we were ordering.

Of the various dishes they brought out, one was a white lump in this yellow stuff.  All through lunch everybody was eyeing it, but nobody wanted to try it.  Eventually, I thought 'why not,' so I tried it.

Right after I ate it, both friends asked, "What was that?"

"It was a potato," I said.

"What was that yellow stuff?"

Butter.

Bottom line, because it was in an Indian restaurant - three Americans were afraid to eat a potato.

Once you clarified the ingredients, did your shipmates eat it with ghlee?


HI-YO!

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2020-08-11 3:33:16 PM  
It's a good idea not to introduce new foods to littler kids without warning the parents, in case of allergies, but honestly, if the kid willingly ate vegetables you won.

/and it sounds like the parents got warned, so...eh?
//I usually ask first, but that may be a cultural thing
 
2020-08-11 4:22:24 PM  

Circusdog320: In India it's just called food.


I was gonna say "what do they think pukka desi kids eat?"
 
2020-08-11 4:24:28 PM  

nartreb: Sin'sHero: Wait, Aryan food isn't good enough, anymore?

I see what you did there, but you don't know that it was an Aryan dish.  Lentils and curry could just as easily be Dravidian.


Which branch?
 
2020-08-11 5:10:47 PM  
My mother got in trouble with a redneck neighbor because we fed him fresh spinach with dinner. She stomped over and said "he won't eat that canned stuff no more!"
 
2020-08-11 5:44:54 PM  
When I was young my mom was the at-home mom, and as such, my family's house became the local gathering ground for all the latchkey kids.

Now my mom doesn't cook extremely weird things, generally. I cook weirder and more cultural food than she does and regularly baffle her. But she doesn't shy away from ethnic spice mixes and so on.

She also doesn't suffer children refusing to eat because of what she cooked that day. It's what she cooked. Eat it or starve, sorry, neighbor latchkey kids. This turned into a weird thing with some neighbors saying shiat like look, just feed the kid chicken nuggets and my mom, being merciless, going look, come home and feed your kids. It's that or your kids eat what I cook. Deal with it.

THAT said, she was also the first to put giant allergen warnings on anything she cooked if she felt it necessary. She damn near took out a kid in my first grade class because she made cookies with cashews in them. Lesson learned.

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/who the hell is mad because their kid ate actual good food, like, for real?
//my mom making turkey pasties, which are a gift from the gods, and the neighbor kids melting down about it
 
2020-08-11 6:33:28 PM  
I would love to try Indian food. I love naan bread, because that's about the only Indian thing I can get at the market.

I have never seen or heard about an Indian restaurant anywhere within 30 miles of me :(

Not that I'm ever going to a restaurant again, that's never happening, but we might someday (hasn't happened yet) get some take-out food and I would really love it if there was some Indian place within 50 miles at least.

We have never NOT liked any ethnic food we have ever tried, like Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, etc., there's just never been an opportunity/place to try it
 
2020-08-11 6:38:59 PM  

Ringshadow: When I was young my mom was the at-home mom, and as such, my family's house became the local gathering ground for all the latchkey kids.

Now my mom doesn't cook extremely weird things, generally. I cook weirder and more cultural food than she does and regularly baffle her. But she doesn't shy away from ethnic spice mixes and so on.

She also doesn't suffer children refusing to eat because of what she cooked that day. It's what she cooked. Eat it or starve, sorry, neighbor latchkey kids. This turned into a weird thing with some neighbors saying shiat like look, just feed the kid chicken nuggets and my mom, being merciless, going look, come home and feed your kids. It's that or your kids eat what I cook. Deal with it.

THAT said, she was also the first to put giant allergen warnings on anything she cooked if she felt it necessary. She damn near took out a kid in my first grade class because she made cookies with cashews in them. Lesson learned.

/css
/who the hell is mad because their kid ate actual good food, like, for real?
//my mom making turkey pasties, which are a gift from the gods, and the neighbor kids melting down about it


That's like my mom when I was growing up. She was at home until I was about 11, and was always a spectacular cook. Kids begged me to let them come over for dinner or sleep over so they could eat my mom's food. I was happy to do so, because I did not like most of the cooking of my friend's mothers. They had nowhere near the ability of my mother. My mom even made real food for my "tea parties" when I was a kid. I did not appreciate her enough while she was alive. She died 35 years ago, very young, and I still miss her.
 
2020-08-11 6:56:14 PM  

Sin'sHero: Brandi Morgan: My Indian Food CSB:

When I was in the navy, my ship did a port visit in Singapore, myself and two of my friends wound up in an Indian restaurant for lunch.  It was a set menu, so we didn't exactly know what we were ordering.

Of the various dishes they brought out, one was a white lump in this yellow stuff.  All through lunch everybody was eyeing it, but nobody wanted to try it.  Eventually, I thought 'why not,' so I tried it.

Right after I ate it, both friends asked, "What was that?"

"It was a potato," I said.

"What was that yellow stuff?"

Butter.

Bottom line, because it was in an Indian restaurant - three Americans were afraid to eat a potato.

Once you clarified the ingredients, did your shipmates eat it with ghlee?


No.  Unfortunately the waitress put the ghee in a spot on the table, and the guys I was with couldn't find it.
 
2020-08-11 8:10:19 PM  

silvervial: I would love to try Indian food. I love naan bread, because that's about the only Indian thing I can get at the market.

I have never seen or heard about an Indian restaurant anywhere within 30 miles of me :(

Not that I'm ever going to a restaurant again, that's never happening, but we might someday (hasn't happened yet) get some take-out food and I would really love it if there was some Indian place within 50 miles at least.

We have never NOT liked any ethnic food we have ever tried, like Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, etc., there's just never been an opportunity/place to try it


Where do you live, Antarctica?

Go online and find a recipe for Dal Masala - you'll find some that even have links for ordering the harder-to-find ingredients online.  I do recommend you get the exact kind(s) of beans that your chosen recipe specifies, but if the recipe calls for a lot of other stuff you don't already have, pick another recipe.   I wouldn't order a million spices, look for a recipe that calls for a mix you can buy ("garang masala").    It's a pretty simple recipe: you pre-soak the beans, then there's a stir-fry step (mostly to enhance the flavor of the spices) and then a simmering step.
Actual Indian cooks will do it in much, much more complicated and time-consuming ways, the way Italians will have a hundred steps to make a tomato sauce, but you're really not missing all that much.   If you like it, you can always look for a more complicated recipe, with extra spices.  There's asafoetida, for example - smells like armpit at first, adds a kind of undertone to the flavor that you won't notice at all until you get used to all the other new flavors.
Dal Masala is a classic, served in most of India, and popular with Westerners of all ages (if the pepper content is kept low).    Serve with rice (Basmati of course) or naan, or if you're looking for something a bit more interesting, make some Bafla instead - it's a kind of bread that's boiled, then baked, like a bagel.  Easy to cook and doesn't take too long, you can find recipes online.  Tear the bafla with your hands*, use a piece as a shovel to bring the dal to your mouth.

*If in presence of Indians, use only your right hand.  But it sounds like you won't have to worry about that.
 
2020-08-11 8:17:46 PM  

silvervial: I would love to try Indian food. I love naan bread, because that's about the only Indian thing I can get at the market.

I have never seen or heard about an Indian restaurant anywhere within 30 miles of me :(

Not that I'm ever going to a restaurant again, that's never happening, but we might someday (hasn't happened yet) get some take-out food and I would really love it if there was some Indian place within 50 miles at least.

We have never NOT liked any ethnic food we have ever tried, like Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, etc., there's just never been an opportunity/place to try it


Here's a crockpot recipe for chicken tikka masala that I think is pretty decent:

https://www.tablefortwoblog.com/chick​e​n-tikka-masala-crockpot/
 
2020-08-11 9:40:57 PM  
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2020-08-11 11:14:24 PM  
My god this is the most made up all Th ese letters have ever seemed. Way to set up the t-ball stand there, Prudie.
 
2020-08-12 1:13:18 AM  

special20: My mother got in trouble with a redneck neighbor because we fed him fresh spinach with dinner. She stomped over and said "he won't eat that canned stuff no more!"


That sounds kinda sad.

Almost like she can only afford canned veggies, was somehow able to convince the kid to eat them, then you gotta get all fancy with fresh stuff.
 
2020-08-12 10:49:22 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: special20: My mother got in trouble with a redneck neighbor because we fed him fresh spinach with dinner. She stomped over and said "he won't eat that canned stuff no more!"

That sounds kinda sad.

Almost like she can only afford canned veggies, was somehow able to convince the kid to eat them, then you gotta get all fancy with fresh stuff.


Yep. We were poor too, but apparently a bunch of elitist in my house.
 
2020-08-12 11:28:08 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: special20: My mother got in trouble with a redneck neighbor because we fed him fresh spinach with dinner. She stomped over and said "he won't eat that canned stuff no more!"

That sounds kinda sad.

Almost like she can only afford canned veggies, was somehow able to convince the kid to eat them, then you gotta get all fancy with fresh stuff.


farking Bluto
 
2020-08-12 1:49:11 PM  

Tailspin Tommy: A good parent would have would have checked on and approved the menu before agreeing to let their child eat at a friends house. You are obviously horrible parents who hate your child.


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2020-08-12 7:56:43 PM  

special20: GreatGlavinsGhost: special20: My mother got in trouble with a redneck neighbor because we fed him fresh spinach with dinner. She stomped over and said "he won't eat that canned stuff no more!"

That sounds kinda sad.

Almost like she can only afford canned veggies, was somehow able to convince the kid to eat them, then you gotta get all fancy with fresh stuff.

Yep. We were poor too, but apparently a bunch of elitist in my house.


Fresh food. Pfft.

Who do you think you are, the Queen of England?
 
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