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2020-08-11 7:43:30 AM  
59 votes:
Because it could be used to prove that Eric is really his son, or Gary Busey's. Neither is good news.
 
2020-08-11 9:12:50 AM  
26 votes:
He made his DNA sign an NDA, AND you can suck a NAD, DAN.

/ADN
 
2020-08-11 9:04:57 AM  
26 votes:
Two reasons:

1. Much like heartbeats, you are given a certain amount of DNA at birth. You cannot have parts of you scraped away like that.

2. He's afraid that once technology advances sufficiently they will be able to clone him from his DNA and he will find himself a slave in a dystopian future. No wait, that's my fear.
 
2020-08-11 8:45:46 AM  
18 votes:
"As a result of that decision, the relevant deadlines in the Court's Preliminary Conference Order dated December 12, 2020 are no longer 'temporarily stayed," the letter sent to Trump attorney Marc Kasowitz notes. "This letter sets forth our understanding of the current status of this case and discovery in this case as a result of the Court's recent decision."

Looks like someone's been farking around with Obama's time machine again.
 
2020-08-11 9:19:17 AM  
14 votes:

toejam: Two reasons:

1. Much like heartbeats, you are given a certain amount of DNA at birth. You cannot have parts of you scraped away like that.


You are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me, you don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don't know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you don't know about the topic.  Don't make yourself sound like you do, because some Farkers believe anything they hear.

Your body can make additional copies of DNA, but they are just that.  Copies.  You know what happens at work when you lose something so you make a copy of a copy and then copy it a few more times?  It starts to get errors.  Those errors show up as black spots on the paper at work, but in your body they are cancer.
 
2020-08-11 9:30:48 AM  
13 votes:
The DNA will prove once and for all that Martin Shkreli is his kid.

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2020-08-11 9:13:07 AM  
13 votes:
Thinking about trump leaving DNA everywhere isn't really how I planned to spend my morning
 
2020-08-11 9:04:07 AM  
10 votes:
A DNA database of every aborted fetus would sure be interesting.
 
2020-08-11 9:11:17 AM  
9 votes:

saywhonow: Marcus Aurelius: The President has left a lot of semen in a lot of places that he really shouldn't have.  He makes Bill Clinton look like a saint.

Maybe they could swap Ivanka for it?


Swap Ivanka for a DNA sample

Seems like a fair trade
 
2020-08-11 9:00:43 AM  
9 votes:
Just put it on Maury Povich & he'll be all about it.
 
2020-08-11 8:53:50 AM  
9 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: The President has left a lot of semen in a lot of places that he really shouldn't have.  He makes Bill Clinton look like a saint.


Maybe they could swap Ivanka for it?
 
2020-08-11 11:05:05 AM  
7 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Naido: Maybe I overlooked it in TFA, but:  what do they have DNA from, that they're hoping to compare with his?

Jean Carroll has a dress with stains on it, because this is the laziest timeline.



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2020-08-11 9:37:05 AM  
7 votes:

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Now fernt it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It's not too late
To fernt it
Fernt it good
 
2020-08-11 9:35:41 AM  
7 votes:
Possibilities?

1. He is afraid somebody will clone him, so after he loses, the United States will be able to hang him over and over again for his treason
2. He is actually a reptilian of the ruling class, and is afraid of being exposed
3. He's afraid the DNA will reveal his various mental issues, and scientists will be able to determine his actual low double digit IQ
4. He is the real Zodiac Killer, and his DNA will prove that. Ted Cruz, the sycophant that he is, is actually just covering for him.
5. He's afraid of being told, by Maury Povich, "you ARE NOT the father" of (Substitute: Junior or Barron)
6. He's afraid of being told, by Maury Povich, "you ARE the father" of Eric
 
2020-08-11 8:56:19 AM  
7 votes:
He's afraid the DNA will reveal he's reptilian
 
2020-08-11 8:16:26 AM  
7 votes:
The President has left a lot of semen in a lot of places that he really shouldn't have.  He makes Bill Clinton look like a saint.
 
2020-08-11 9:27:33 AM  
6 votes:

RogermcAllen: toejam: Two reasons:

1. Much like heartbeats, you are given a certain amount of DNA at birth. You cannot have parts of you scraped away like that.

You are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me, you don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don't know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you don't know about the topic.  Don't make yourself sound like you do, because some Farkers believe anything they hear.

Your body can make additional copies of DNA, but they are just that.  Copies.  You know what happens at work when you lose something so you make a copy of a copy and then copy it a few more times?  It starts to get errors.  Those errors show up as black spots on the paper at work, but in your body they are cancer.


Plenty of Farkers are getting a kick out of this comment...
 
2020-08-11 9:03:55 AM  
6 votes:

LordJiro: Ditto for his tax returns. And given his penchant for projection and apparent desire to break every law on the books, I'm curious about his 'long form' birth certificate and college transcripts and whatever other unreasonable shiat he demanded from Obama.


Seeing how eloquent he is with his tweets, I want to see proof that he actually went to an Ivy League school and not Whatsamatta U.
 
2020-08-11 9:06:34 AM  
5 votes:
Why?  Ima guess it's because you only have so much DNA--A person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy DNA .
 
2020-08-11 8:59:03 AM  
5 votes:

Naido: Maybe I overlooked it in TFA, but:  what do they have DNA from, that they're hoping to compare with his?


Jean Carroll has a dress with stains on it, because this is the laziest timeline.
 
2020-08-11 9:15:30 AM  
4 votes:
Maybe he is a member of the central park five.
 
2020-08-11 8:28:44 AM  
4 votes:
He objects on principle- the principle that no one can make him do anything.  It's the only principle he's got, and he's sticking with it.
 
2020-08-11 12:57:41 PM  
2 votes:

kindms: Harry Wagstaff: Maybe he is a member of the central park five.

That would have involved running. I doubt Donnie has the stamina to chase down a jogger even so long ago


Didn't you see him run down the last 10 feet of ramp? I hadn't seen that kind of display of athleticism since Usian Bolt broke the record in the 100 meters.
 
2020-08-11 10:44:47 AM  
2 votes:
DNA evidence, fighting hardto stop its release.

(giggity)
 
2020-08-11 10:11:42 AM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: The President has left a lot of semen in a lot of places that he really shouldn't have.  He makes Bill Clinton look like a saint.


Argh! Why!?!?

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2020-08-11 10:08:33 AM  
2 votes:
"Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP"

I was skimming the article and totally read the letterhead as "[something something] & F*ck UP"

/  No reason, just wanted to point out that I clearly need to clean my glasses.
 
2020-08-11 9:55:28 AM  
2 votes:

wademh: Because it could be used to prove that Eric is really his son, or Gary Busey's. Neither is good news.


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2020-08-11 9:43:55 AM  
2 votes:

Officer Barrelroll: I could be totally wrong about this because I am pretty awful at science, but could Mary Trump's DNA be used to at least show a related match to whatever DNA evidence Carroll has? I imagine it would not be a match the way Trump's would be, but it would still be a much higher percentage of a match than a random person's DNA.

Mary Trump might be willing to give a sample for the sake of science.

/Science!


I had the same thought, except then #2Scoops* would simply crow that it was Mary did all of the rapes! [law & order sound dot AIFF]
(or, something-something dark family secret, she was adopted or mitosisized from a lizard-people scraping, or something.)

/mar-a-lago delenda est.
//be pretty thigh-larious to clock DNA ancestry on the entirety of #TrumpCrimeFamily, though!
///turns out I'M ERIC is cognate to... slime molds and failed orthodontists.
 
2020-08-11 9:43:09 AM  
2 votes:
If he had been this strict about controlling access to his DNA his entire life, he wouldn't be in this damn mess now would he?
 
2020-08-11 9:38:49 AM  
2 votes:

RogermcAllen: toejam: Two reasons:

1. Much like heartbeats, you are given a certain amount of DNA at birth. You cannot have parts of you scraped away like that.

You are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me, you don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don't know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you don't know about the topic.  Don't make yourself sound like you do, because some Farkers believe anything they hear.

Your body can make additional copies of DNA, but they are just that.  Copies.  You know what happens at work when you lose something so you make a copy of a copy and then copy it a few more times?  It starts to get errors.  Those errors show up as black spots on the paper at work, but in your body they are cancer.


I thought my answers were so absurd that they no one could possibly think I was serious. In this timeline I shouldn't be surprised that someone did. Unless you're joking. I can't tell any more.
 
2020-08-11 9:28:19 AM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: The President has left a lot of semen in a lot of places that he really shouldn't have.  He makes Bill Clinton look like a saint.


*hurl* Yeah, but they're like Homer Simpson's sperm, swimming around bouncing off each other. How else can you explain Don Jr?
 
2020-08-11 9:16:45 PM  
1 vote:
Maybe this judge will actually hold in contempt.
 
2020-08-11 4:25:58 PM  
1 vote:

Sarek of the Edmund Fitzgerald: Is it possible that Trump's difficulty drinking a glass of water is due to some desperate ongoing attempt to avoid leaving DNA evidence on the glasses he uses?


5D Chutes and Ladders. Trump is a master at the game. :D
 
2020-08-11 3:55:34 PM  
1 vote:
Is it possible that Trump's difficulty drinking a glass of water is due to some desperate ongoing attempt to avoid leaving DNA evidence on the glasses he uses?
 
2020-08-11 12:37:55 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-08-11 10:27:05 AM  
1 vote:

KarmicDisaster: durbnpoisn: Officer Barrelroll: I could be totally wrong about this because I am pretty awful at science, but could Mary Trump's DNA be used to at least show a related match to whatever DNA evidence Carroll has? I imagine it would not be a match the way Trump's would be, but it would still be a much higher percentage of a match than a random person's DNA.

Mary Trump might be willing to give a sample for the sake of science.

/Science!

I see what you're getting at here, but alas, no, that won't work.

DNA is much more complicated than that.  Some 99.9% of ALL human DNA is the same.  That's what makes us a species.  That .1% is what is used to make a match to a single human.  Trump's children would be a closer match.  And even THAT wouldn't be accurate enough.  They have DNA from one of 3 different wives also...  Trump's niece is so far removed, that he DNA might be closer to yours than to Trump's.

That may be so, but if they do enough markers, and they would, they can establish the genetic relationship between Mary Trump and the rapist.  That's how they got the golden state killer for example. In this case, it would show that Mary was closely related to the rapist and at what distance. Process of elimination would put Trump high up or at the top of the list of suspects.


I suppose.  And I have no way to refute that they can do that.  But I suspect that when the defendant in the case it Trump, they will find ANY reason to discredit the DNA evidence, which as you know, is already on thin ice.

Yes, things have improved since they first started using it.  But defense attorneys have called it into question before.
 
2020-08-11 10:19:55 AM  
1 vote:

RasIanI: LordJiro: Ditto for his tax returns. And given his penchant for projection and apparent desire to break every law on the books, I'm curious about his 'long form' birth certificate and college transcripts and whatever other unreasonable shiat he demanded from Obama.

"shiat he demanded from Obama"

This.....this is the s*** that p***es me off - the sheer, gargantuan, bald-faced freaking hypocrisy of the man.


I'd still put money, if given better than even money odds, that he's an on-paper Muslim, done at some point to secure financing and/or a hotel deal.

Just too much projection, with too much commitment, on top of something that would be entirely in character from a "bullshiatter 'businessman' charlatan fraud" perspective.
 
2020-08-11 10:15:42 AM  
1 vote:

toejam: cman: toejam: Two reasons:

1. Much like heartbeats, you are given a certain amount of DNA at birth. You cannot have parts of you scraped away like that.

2. He's afraid that once technology advances sufficiently they will be able to clone him from his DNA and he will find himself a slave in a dystopian future. No wait, that's my fear.

You'll get over it. DNA secrecy is bullshiat. There are over 100k dead individuals here in America that we have no idea who they are. Thanks to folks like you, those who have lost their name probably wont ever get it back.

They're dead. I feel pretty confident they're beyond caring about that.


And those grieving mothers wondering where their children are just aren't important.
 
2020-08-11 10:04:41 AM  
1 vote:
I don't think it is bad for any person to resist giving a prosecutor evidence with appropriate legal tools, even if they are innocent.  That's basic 4th and 5th amendment stuff.

"If you have nothing to hide, let me search you" isn't how our system should work.

In this case the President has exhausted his appropriate legal tools and even some inappropriate ones, and should provide the sample.

But that's meaningfully different, subby, than "if giving the prosecutor evidence will exonerate him why is he fighting".
 
2020-08-11 9:55:11 AM  
1 vote:

toejam: Two reasons:

1. Much like heartbeats, you are given a certain amount of DNA at birth. You cannot have parts of you scraped away like that.

2. He's afraid that once technology advances sufficiently they will be able to clone him from his DNA and he will find himself a slave in a dystopian future. No wait, that's my fear.


You'll get over it. DNA secrecy is bullshiat. There are over 100k dead individuals here in America that we have no idea who they are. Thanks to folks like you, those who have lost their name probably wont ever get it back.
 
2020-08-11 9:45:31 AM  
1 vote:

Officer Barrelroll: I could be totally wrong about this because I am pretty awful at science, but could Mary Trump's DNA be used to at least show a related match to whatever DNA evidence Carroll has? I imagine it would not be a match the way Trump's would be, but it would still be a much higher percentage of a match than a random person's DNA.

Mary Trump might be willing to give a sample for the sake of science.

/Science!


I see what you're getting at here, but alas, no, that won't work.

DNA is much more complicated than that.  Some 99.9% of ALL human DNA is the same.  That's what makes us a species.  That .1% is what is used to make a match to a single human.  Trump's children would be a closer match.  And even THAT wouldn't be accurate enough.  They have DNA from one of 3 different wives also...  Trump's niece is so far removed, that he DNA might be closer to yours than to Trump's.
 
2020-08-11 9:25:32 AM  
1 vote:

Officer Barrelroll: I could be totally wrong about this because I am pretty awful at science, but could Mary Trump's DNA be used to at least show a related match to whatever DNA evidence Carroll has? I imagine it would not be a match the way Trump's would be, but it would still be a much higher percentage of a match than a random person's DNA.

Mary Trump might be willing to give a sample for the sake of science.

/Science!


Yes, she could help establish a likely familial match.
 
2020-08-11 9:23:27 AM  
1 vote:

Dr Dreidel: Jean Carroll has a dress with stains on it


I sure hope she's pre-Marie Kondo!
 
2020-08-11 9:19:50 AM  
1 vote:

Harry Wagstaff: Maybe he is a member of the central park five.


That would have involved running. I doubt Donnie has the stamina to chase down a jogger even so long ago
 
2020-08-11 7:57:11 AM  
1 vote:
Because 99.9999% of the time, everything he says is opposite.
He knows it will condemn him.
 
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