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(ESPN)   MLB finally realized that a bubble format will work   (espn.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Major League Baseball, playoff teams, bubble-type format, World Series, League Championship Series, home games, Southern California, metropolitan area  
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707 clicks; posted to Sports » on 11 Aug 2020 at 8:25 AM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-08-11 9:04:34 AM  
They should have done this from the beginning....and the NFL should too.
 
2020-08-11 9:32:34 AM  
not New York!
 
2020-08-11 9:34:38 AM  
Because of MLB's expansion to 16 playoff teams, the league would need at least three hubs to complete its wild-card round before shrinking to a two-hub format for the division series.

But somehow, the NHL managed to make an expansion to 24 playoff teams work in only 2 cities.
 
2020-08-11 9:43:53 AM  

puckrock2000: Because of MLB's expansion to 16 playoff teams, the league would need at least three hubs to complete its wild-card round before shrinking to a two-hub format for the division series.

But somehow, the NHL managed to make an expansion to 24 playoff teams work in only 2 cities.


Well, ice takes about as much maintenance time as artificial turf does.

But baseball games take 3+ hours to play and hockey only 2+; plus pregame warmup for both.  Hockey pre-game warmups can generally be done on the sheet of practice ice that's in the basement of most arenas; baseball fields don't have that equivalent.  And hockey players generally get a day off between games, but baseball teams generally play back-to-back-to-back.

So you need more surface area for the baseball teams.
 
2020-08-11 10:05:13 AM  
If they're playing in empty stadia, why not go to the Spring Training facilities in Arizona?
 
2020-08-11 10:14:12 AM  

Gonz: If they're playing in empty stadia, why not go to the Spring Training facilities in Arizona?


Because then you'd have to move all the players to Arizona and they would have the same problems with entire teams coming down with illness, but now in a much more confined space with more limited medical resources.
 
2020-08-11 10:34:33 AM  
The main problem is home field advantage.  Home field advantage in the MLB is not just the energy from the fans, but also the home players' being used to all the quirks of their home stadiums, such as the unique dimensions of the playing field and fencing, the condition of the turf and dirt, and the weather, altitude, wind patterns, and shadows.  Some teams' lineups are tailored in part around their home stadium.  If the Dodgers are playing in the playoffs (nearly 100% chance) and the "neutral site" where all games are played is Dodger Stadium, the Dodgers will have a definite advantage, and there's no way the other teams would agree to such.
 
2020-08-11 1:05:47 PM  
Unlike most of the other stupid crap that is suggested for Covid and has time and time again not worked... bubble concepts clearly work.

NWSL did it very well.  PGA is doing a quasi-bubble and has worked pretty well.  Basketball has done a bubble and it has done great.

Baseball did not do a bubble and it's been a pretty epic disaster.  Take heed!
 
2020-08-11 2:34:31 PM  

jake3988: Baseball did not do a bubble and it's been a pretty epic disaster.  Take heed!


The reason baseball did not do a bubble was because they are playing the whole season, and if they did a bubble a very large number of players would not play because they have wives and kids (frequently very young kids) at home they would not be willing to be away from for two to three months.  NBA and NHL have just a handful of regular season games plus the playoffs, probably half the time for MLB or less (assuming you make the playoffs; even less if you don't).
 
2020-08-11 2:54:46 PM  

Geotpf: jake3988: Baseball did not do a bubble and it's been a pretty epic disaster.  Take heed!

The reason baseball did not do a bubble was because they are playing the whole season, and if they did a bubble a very large number of players would not play because they have wives and kids (frequently very young kids) at home they would not be willing to be away from for two to three months.  NBA and NHL have just a handful of regular season games plus the playoffs, probably half the time for MLB or less (assuming you make the playoffs; even less if you don't).


60 games (if they even get that far) is a little over 1/3 of a season.
 
2020-08-11 3:03:21 PM  
The likely reason for the postseason bubble idea is to allow media and broadcast personnel to show up early where the games are going to be, and self quarantine for two weeks until the games start.

If you did LA, you could host AL games at Dodger Stadium and NL games at Angels Stadium, and have Petco ready as a neutral site if both LA teams make the Series.

Or Wrigley/Comiskey/Miller Park, or NY/NY/Philly or Boston.
 
2020-08-11 3:19:53 PM  

Trainspotr: The likely reason for the postseason bubble idea is to allow media and broadcast personnel to show up early where the games are going to be, and self quarantine for two weeks until the games start.

If you did LA, you could host AL games at Dodger Stadium and NL games at Angels Stadium, and have Petco ready as a neutral site if both LA teams make the Series.

Or Wrigley/Comiskey/Miller Park, or NY/NY/Philly or Boston.


IIRC, the Red Sox broadcasting team has literally broadcast every game, home or away, in the studio. Which makes sense considering Remy's cancer isn't in remission anymore.
 
2020-08-11 3:48:42 PM  

Geotpf: The main problem is home field advantage.  Home field advantage in the MLB is not just the energy from the fans, but also the home players' being used to all the quirks of their home stadiums, such as the unique dimensions of the playing field and fencing, the condition of the turf and dirt, and the weather, altitude, wind patterns, and shadows.  Some teams' lineups are tailored in part around their home stadium.  If the Dodgers are playing in the playoffs (nearly 100% chance) and the "neutral site" where all games are played is Dodger Stadium, the Dodgers will have a definite advantage, and there's no way the other teams would agree to such.


So play at a college ballpark

There are no fans anyway
 
2020-08-11 4:19:19 PM  

FriarReb98: Trainspotr: The likely reason for the postseason bubble idea is to allow media and broadcast personnel to show up early where the games are going to be, and self quarantine for two weeks until the games start.

If you did LA, you could host AL games at Dodger Stadium and NL games at Angels Stadium, and have Petco ready as a neutral site if both LA teams make the Series.

Or Wrigley/Comiskey/Miller Park, or NY/NY/Philly or Boston.

IIRC, the Red Sox broadcasting team has literally broadcast every game, home or away, in the studio. Which makes sense considering Remy's cancer isn't in remission anymore.


This is probably close to universal; the Dodgers broadcasting team has been broadcasting from Dodger Stadium during both home and away games.
 
2020-08-11 6:09:38 PM  

puckrock2000: Geotpf: jake3988: Baseball did not do a bubble and it's been a pretty epic disaster.  Take heed!

The reason baseball did not do a bubble was because they are playing the whole season, and if they did a bubble a very large number of players would not play because they have wives and kids (frequently very young kids) at home they would not be willing to be away from for two to three months.  NBA and NHL have just a handful of regular season games plus the playoffs, probably half the time for MLB or less (assuming you make the playoffs; even less if you don't).

60 games (if they even get that far) is a little over 1/3 of a season.


you win 60, you lose 60, its the other 42 that matter.

baseball is finally just playing the games that matter.
 
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