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2020-08-10 9:26:58 PM  
21 votes:

Mugato: No one bought that bullshiat for a second. It's super hot somewhere in the world at any given time of year. Hell, it's super hot in the US somewhere at any given time of year. I wouldn't buy that the virus couldn't survive freezing weather either but it's at least a little more plausible than heat.


Oh, a TON of people believed this. Like, millions, plus those in positions of power (DeSantis). My sister, who works for a major insurance company and should know better, was repeating this shiat.
 
2020-08-10 8:46:13 PM  
20 votes:
No one bought that bullshiat for a second. It's super hot somewhere in the world at any given time of year. Hell, it's super hot in the US somewhere at any given time of year. I wouldn't buy that the virus couldn't survive freezing weather either but it's at least a little more plausible than heat.
 
2020-08-10 10:14:20 PM  
19 votes:
The virus lives for a shorter period of time on surfaces in the heat or direct sunlight.
Somebody told him this, and this why he wanted us all to shove lightbulbs up our asses.
 
2020-08-11 12:10:28 AM  
14 votes:
That was obvious to anyone who paid attention and realized that Iran was getting ravaged by it. If the heat of Persia didn't kill it off, why did anyone think a Midwestern summer was going to do it?
 
2020-08-11 12:14:37 AM  
13 votes:
Maria Van Kerkhove, the American leading the technical team investigating the virus, said between 10 and 20 percent of cases are responsible for up to 80 percent of transmission.

This also seemed particularly pertinent.  Isn't that close the percentage of people who refuse to wear masks.
 
2020-08-10 9:36:07 PM  
12 votes:
Meanwhile, in the southern hemisphere when this first started...
 
2020-08-11 1:42:29 AM  
11 votes:

joker420: I remember a lot of doctors saying it.


LOL No you don't.

You might remember sites that tell constant lies claimed that doctors said this.

That is completely different. Maybe, someday you will understand this difference. But I doubt it.
 
2020-08-11 12:20:20 AM  
11 votes:
It doesn't matter, subby. You can't throw their words back at them. They either don't care, spin it around back at you, tell you that you are lying, or double down and say they are right despite the evidence that we are seeing.
 
2020-08-10 8:52:26 PM  
11 votes:
Those 15 cases sure went to zero tho. I expect that these 5 million cases will clear up magically, right around November 3rd.
 
2020-08-11 12:11:41 AM  
10 votes:
One day, like a miracle, he'll just disappear.
 
2020-08-11 12:07:59 AM  
10 votes:
Just wait until Jan-feb and you'll see that the virus actually did slow down in the summer...
 
2020-08-11 12:28:23 AM  
8 votes:

omg bbq: Sure but in The Thing they all had it in the end.


Kurt Russel and Keith David didn't both have it or they wouldn't have been suspicious of each other at the end. Either one had it or neither had it. Either way they more than likely froze to death.
 
2020-08-11 1:20:42 AM  
7 votes:

JudgeSmails: once the cold weather hits and the windows and doors start closing and the heat gets turned on,things are going to get much worse.


Yes it will.

Currently the US is on track to have a similar death toll to the 1918 flu. Winter will accelerate this.
 
2020-08-11 12:27:43 AM  
7 votes:

seapig: That was obvious to anyone who paid attention and realized that Iran was getting ravaged by it. If the heat of Persia didn't kill it off, why did anyone think a Midwestern summer was going to do it?


Tehran is up in the mountains though, it's just basically Colorado Springs with a different flavor of religious nut job.
 
2020-08-11 12:38:58 AM  
6 votes:

Mugato: omg bbq: Sure but in The Thing they all had it in the end.

Kurt Russel and Keith David didn't both have it or they wouldn't have been suspicious of each other at the end. Either one had it or neither had it. Either way they more than likely froze to death.


You're right.

I read a story called The Things, it was the book/movie told from the creature's point of view. In that everyone had it by the end. I guess that stuck with me more. My bad.
 
2020-08-11 2:40:47 AM  
5 votes:

joker420: FarkingChas: joker420: I remember a lot of doctors saying it.

LOL No you don't.
You might remember sites that tell constant lies claimed that doctors said this.
That is completely different. Maybe, someday you will understand this difference. But I doubt it.

Lol, you people are really something, every station has doctors on staff and everyone said it was possible.


Sure kid. You went all over the country. Polling the doctors and staff at all these "stations". And vetting them to make sure they have had advanced classes in virology. Then you got a significant majority to say it would be true. Sure you did.
Or you just pulled something out of your magical information hole to make an argument with.

Narrator: It's the second one :)

LOL
 
2020-08-11 12:36:48 AM  
5 votes:

thurstonxhowell: To be fair, it wasn't completely unreasonable to assume transmission would decline over the summer. Other coronaviruses show seasonal cycles for reasons that aren't fully understood.

That said, no one who knows anything said it would disappear.


That's most likely because more people are outside in the fresh air in the summer.

/concept breaks down in areas where people hide inside with AC for the hot season
 
2020-08-11 12:20:38 AM  
5 votes:
To be fair, it wasn't completely unreasonable to assume transmission would decline over the summer. Other coronaviruses show seasonal cycles for reasons that aren't fully understood.

That said, no one who knows anything said it would disappear.
 
2020-08-11 3:30:08 AM  
4 votes:

Fart_Machine: That must be why it's doing so poorly in Brazil.


It's winter in Brazil
 
2020-08-11 1:35:07 AM  
4 votes:

Outlawtsar: JudgeSmails: once the cold weather hits and the windows and doors start closing and the heat gets turned on,things are going to get much worse.

Yep.  Get ready for flu season too.  Now you'll have a coroner fight over what was the cause of death, was it:

A) COVID by itself
B) COVID + Flu which already kills people by a similar pneumonia mechanism
C) Flu + COVID where you die from the flu but just have COVID for fun
D) Flu by itself, which still kills a ton of people every year (including kids) and just not even test for COVID because you live in the South and Football takes precedence


Flu season probably won't be all that bad. All the mask wearing, hand washing, and disinfecting will likely severely limit the spread of the flu virus.
 
2020-08-11 1:11:43 AM  
4 votes:
I can think of a certain farker who went on about how Brazil didn't have a horrible outbreak going on, therefore the heat would kill it and we were over reacting. This was back in April or May and I don't feel like digging up the thread. You know who you are. I hope you now realize how horrible wrong and incredibly stupid you are. Get help, an education, critical thinking, something. Or just don't wear a mask and go to MAGAt parties. You won't be missed.
 
2020-08-11 1:02:37 AM  
4 votes:

JudgeSmails: once the cold weather hits and the windows and doors start closing and the heat gets turned on,things are going to get much worse.


Yep.  Get ready for flu season too.  Now you'll have a coroner fight over what was the cause of death, was it:

A) COVID by itself
B) COVID + Flu which already kills people by a similar pneumonia mechanism
C) Flu + COVID where you die from the flu but just have COVID for fun
D) Flu by itself, which still kills a ton of people every year (including kids) and just not even test for COVID because you live in the South and Football takes precedence
 
2020-08-11 12:34:51 AM  
4 votes:

Mugato: No one bought that bullshiat for a second. It's super hot somewhere in the world at any given time of year. Hell, it's super hot in the US somewhere at any given time of year. I wouldn't buy that the virus couldn't survive freezing weather either but it's at least a little more plausible than heat.


Fark you. The Geek Tab had several posters who swooped in to talk about how unscienfitic those of us who debunked the warm weather myth were. Our own Geek tab was propagating the warm weather theory.
 
2020-08-11 12:34:24 AM  
4 votes:
It may not be affected by seasonal changes, but it sure is affected by people staying indoors a lot more. This fall and winter are going to be GREAT!
 
2020-08-10 10:23:56 PM  
4 votes:

sirrerun: The virus lives for a shorter period of time on surfaces in the heat or direct sunlight.
Somebody told him this, and this why he wanted us all to shove lightbulbs up our asses.


"The Thing" had the right idea. If someone is suspected of having the virus, just blast them with a flame thrower. That'll kill it.
 
2020-08-11 7:31:37 AM  
3 votes:
Here's something that should scare you.

What if they were right?

What if it does have a much harder time spreading in the heat and light?

What does that mean for October?
 
2020-08-11 1:53:29 AM  
3 votes:

seapig: That was obvious to anyone who paid attention and realized that Iran was getting ravaged by it. If the heat of Persia didn't kill it off, why did anyone think a Midwestern summer was going to do it?


Northern tip of Iran is around the same latitude as NYC. Southern tip of Iran is around the same latitude as Miami. Mountains of Iran have snow on them.
 
2020-08-11 1:30:17 AM  
3 votes:

comrade: Just wait until Jan-feb and you'll see that the virus actually did slow down in the summer...


Or a lot sooner. November may be a killer wake up call.
 
2020-08-11 1:09:16 AM  
3 votes:

Mugato: omg bbq: I read a story called The Things, it was the book/movie told from the creature's point of view. In that everyone had it by the end. I guess that stuck with me more. My bad.

I heard of that, I should check that out.


http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts​_​01_10/
 
2020-08-11 12:55:11 AM  
3 votes:
once the cold weather hits and the windows and doors start closing and the heat gets turned on,things are going to get much worse.
 
2020-08-11 12:48:42 AM  
3 votes:

Mugato: omg bbq: I read a story called The Things, it was the book/movie told from the creature's point of view. In that everyone had it by the end. I guess that stuck with me more. My bad.

I heard of that, I should check that out.


It's a worthy read.
 
2020-08-11 3:35:51 AM  
2 votes:

Outlawtsar: JudgeSmails: once the cold weather hits and the windows and doors start closing and the heat gets turned on,things are going to get much worse.

Yep.  Get ready for flu season too.  Now you'll have a coroner fight over what was the cause of death, was it:

A) COVID by itself
B) COVID + Flu which already kills people by a similar pneumonia mechanism
C) Flu + COVID where you die from the flu but just have COVID for fun
D) Flu by itself, which still kills a ton of people every year (including kids) and just not even test for COVID because you live in the South and Football takes precedence


Luckily, it is likely also true that the same measures which have fairly significantly slowed the spread of an insanely contagious disease (covid) will hugely impede the spread of a much less contagious one, influenza, which spreads via the exact same mechanisms.
 
2020-08-11 3:32:00 AM  
2 votes:

joker420: FarkingChas: joker420: I remember a lot of doctors saying it.

LOL No you don't.

You might remember sites that tell constant lies claimed that doctors said this.

That is completely different. Maybe, someday you will understand this difference. But I doubt it.

Lol, you people are really something, every station has doctors on staff and everyone said it was possible.


Phil, Oz and Drew are not really good doctors- they are what many call "quacks". Even Doctor Demento wouldn't make such a claim ....

But, you did cover yourself in a manner saying that magick word "possible".
Most quacks did not use that, nor did any of the rwnj talking heads on the telly or the radio.
I mean- it is possible that I am a multimillionaire who simply has not turned in that winning powerball / megamillions/superlotto ticket, yet.

drayno76: I can think of a certain farker who went on about how Brazil didn't have a horrible outbreak going on, therefore the heat would kill it and we were over reacting. This was back in April or May and I don't feel like digging up the thread. You know who you are. I hope you now realize how horrible wrong and incredibly stupid you are. Get help, an education, critical thinking, something. Or just don't wear a mask and go to MAGAt parties. You won't be missed.


That really does not narrow it down much .... But I getcha .
 
2020-08-11 1:44:49 AM  
2 votes:
The sun does kill the virus on surfaces, stubby. With that and increased time spent outside, where transmission is similarly less likely, it wasn't unreasonable to assume a slowdown in transmission in summer months. In fact, this may actually be what "slowed" transmission in USA looks like. Just wait until December...
 
2020-08-11 1:23:18 AM  
2 votes:

HerptheDerp: One day, like a miracle, he'll just disappear.


Just be patient -- the plague mostly disappeared on its own after it killed off somewhere between 30% and 60% of the population of medieval Europe too.  One day it was just gone, like magic.
 
2020-08-11 1:17:29 AM  
2 votes:

seapig: That was obvious to anyone who paid attention and realized that Iran was getting ravaged by it. If the heat of Persia didn't kill it off, why did anyone think a Midwestern summer was going to do it?


Um, Iran was quite chilly at the time. It's not just one big 24/7 desert over there.
 
2020-08-11 12:48:22 AM  
2 votes:

Notabunny: whosits_112: It doesn't matter, subby. You can't throw their words back at them. They either don't care, spin it around back at you, tell you that you are lying, or double down and say they are right despite the evidence that we are seeing.

you sound like someone who hasn't yet bought gold or a hand crank radio or dehydrated food


Let me tell you, that radio was my friend during the power outage last week.
 
2020-08-11 12:41:02 AM  
2 votes:

Bennie Crabtree: Fark you. The Geek Tab had several posters who swooped in to talk about how unscienfitic those of us who debunked the warm weather myth were. Our own Geek tab was propagating the warm weather theory.


Ok, you don't have to be a dick about it. I don't know anyone IRL who bought it, I'll just say that. It makes no sense since the virus is all over the world, seasons are different in different parts of the world and there's always some places where it's hotter than hell on any given day. Anyone who put any kind of logical thought into it had to realize it's horseshiat.
 
2020-08-10 9:45:14 PM  
2 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: plus those in positions of power (DeSantis)


He believes it? Does he realize he's governor of a state that goes below 85 degrees for a week out of the year, tops?
 
2020-08-11 2:30:20 PM  
1 vote:

Mad_Radhu: Outlawtsar: JudgeSmails: once the cold weather hits and the windows and doors start closing and the heat gets turned on,things are going to get much worse.

Yep.  Get ready for flu season too.  Now you'll have a coroner fight over what was the cause of death, was it:

A) COVID by itself
B) COVID + Flu which already kills people by a similar pneumonia mechanism
C) Flu + COVID where you die from the flu but just have COVID for fun
D) Flu by itself, which still kills a ton of people every year (including kids) and just not even test for COVID because you live in the South and Football takes precedence

Flu season probably won't be all that bad. All the mask wearing, hand washing, and disinfecting will likely severely limit the spread of the flu virus.


Minis the plague rats walking around being Republican and not taking care of themselves.
 
2020-08-11 11:27:17 AM  
1 vote:

FireSpy: Shrapnel: Mugato: omg bbq: I read a story called The Things, it was the book/movie told from the creature's point of view. In that everyone had it by the end. I guess that stuck with me more. My bad.

I heard of that, I should check that out.

It's a worthy read.

Who is the author?


Peter Watts

http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts​_​01_10/
 
2020-08-11 11:20:10 AM  
1 vote:

Ivo Shandor: Mugato: omg bbq: I read a story called The Things, it was the book/movie told from the creature's point of view. In that everyone had it by the end. I guess that stuck with me more. My bad.

I heard of that, I should check that out.

http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_​01_10/


OT: If you enjoy Peter Watts' style, and an even deeper dive into what it means to be conscious (and whether consciousness is orthogonal to intelligence), you'll love the novel https://rifters.com/real/Blindsight.h​t​m
 
2020-08-11 10:33:16 AM  
1 vote:

FireSpy: Shrapnel: Mugato: omg bbq: I read a story called The Things, it was the book/movie told from the creature's point of view. In that everyone had it by the end. I guess that stuck with me more. My bad.

I heard of that, I should check that out.

It's a worthy read.

Who is the author?


http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts​_​01_10/
 
2020-08-11 7:34:44 AM  
1 vote:

erik-k: Outlawtsar: JudgeSmails: once the cold weather hits and the windows and doors start closing and the heat gets turned on,things are going to get much worse.

Yep.  Get ready for flu season too.  Now you'll have a coroner fight over what was the cause of death, was it:

A) COVID by itself
B) COVID + Flu which already kills people by a similar pneumonia mechanism
C) Flu + COVID where you die from the flu but just have COVID for fun
D) Flu by itself, which still kills a ton of people every year (including kids) and just not even test for COVID because you live in the South and Football takes precedence

Luckily, it is likely also true that the same measures which have fairly significantly slowed the spread of an insanely contagious disease (covid) will hugely impede the spread of a much less contagious one, influenza, which spreads via the exact same mechanisms.


Australia and New Zealand (who are in the middle of their flu seasons) have seen drastically reduced numbers of influenza cases. In NZ, this is partly due to a massive vaccination campaign with the goal of limiting influenza to avoid dealing with both of them at once.

And influenza is pretty much as communicable as COVID-19, but far more people have either direct immunity or inherent immunity, having been exposed to various influenza viruses their whole lifetimes. COVID-19 is coming onto a clear field where the only people who have been exposed to similar viruses (betacoronaviruses) are MERS and SARS survivors.
 
2020-08-11 5:06:16 AM  
1 vote:
My coworker is from the Bahamas. She was just telling me about how the cases there were starting to climb... in July & August.
 
2020-08-11 1:47:43 AM  
1 vote:
That must be why it's doing so poorly in Brazil.
 
2020-08-11 1:15:07 AM  
1 vote:
Now who was that, stubby can't quite recall
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2020-08-11 12:57:59 AM  
1 vote:

Notabunny: whosits_112: It doesn't matter, subby. You can't throw their words back at them. They either don't care, spin it around back at you, tell you that you are lying, or double down and say they are right despite the evidence that we are seeing.

you sound like someone who hasn't yet bought gold or a hand crank radio or dehydrated food


That's why I'm arming up, so that I can find the ones who are hoarding gold and freeze-dried food.

/this liberal is packing heat.
 
2020-08-11 12:45:58 AM  
1 vote:

Mugato: No one bought that bullshiat for a second. It's super hot somewhere in the world at any given time of year. Hell, it's super hot in the US somewhere at any given time of year. I wouldn't buy that the virus couldn't survive freezing weather either but it's at least a little more plausible than heat.


Regular flu hates the heat. Once I saw that the equatorial countries had cases I knew it wasn't going anywhere.
 
2020-08-11 12:31:32 AM  
1 vote:

whosits_112: It doesn't matter, subby. You can't throw their words back at them. They either don't care, spin it around back at you, tell you that you are lying, or double down and say they are right despite the evidence that we are seeing.


you sound like someone who hasn't yet bought gold or a hand crank radio or dehydrated food
 
2020-08-10 9:41:44 PM  
1 vote:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Oh, a TON of people believed this. Like, millions, plus those in positions of power (DeSantis). My sister, who works for a major insurance company and should know better, was repeating this shiat.


Of course, what was I thinking.
 
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