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2020-08-10 8:42:12 AM  
Trump has been sniffing Sharpie fumes again, and has convinced himself what a master debater he is.
 
2020-08-10 10:01:37 AM  
he needs a shovel.
He can dig his own hole
 
2020-08-10 10:21:30 AM  
Trump will not be the one who beats Biden.

His postmaster general making sure ballots do not arrive at their destination and the Russians hacking the voting machines will be the ones who beat Biden.  Trump simply gets to remain President.
 
2020-08-10 10:23:38 AM  
Over/under on Trump manufactured international crisis that requires he skip the debates?
 
2020-08-10 10:40:03 AM  

The Perineum Falcon: Trump will not be the one who beats Biden.

His postmaster general making sure ballots do not arrive at their destination and the Russians hacking the voting machines will be the ones who beat Biden.  Trump simply gets to remain President.


Which voting machines, exactly?
 
2020-08-10 10:54:17 AM  
Trump was talking up how great he was going to do in the debates because he wanted Biden to debate him in a venue of Trump's choosing, with moderators of Trump's choice, in front of a hand picked crowd.

Sadly for Trump, Biden didn't go for the obvious trap, and now Trump has to quietly walk back all his trash talk because in a real debate Trump is going to get crushed.
 
2020-08-10 11:14:44 AM  
If this Biden shows up, Trump will have his ass handed to him.

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2020-08-10 11:30:03 AM  
can we skip the debates this time?
 
2020-08-10 11:30:11 AM  

vudukungfu: he needs a shovel.
He can dig his own hole


He should challenge Biden to a hole digging contest. Not a metaphorical one, an actual dig-dirt-out-of-the-ground one.
 
2020-08-10 11:30:25 AM  

vudukungfu: he needs a shovel.
He can dig his own hole


Actually, a nice shovel fight between Biden and Trump would be awesome.
 
2020-08-10 11:30:30 AM  
You mean:
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV
*Mic drop*
Won't cut it for Trump?
 
2020-08-10 11:30:31 AM  
Trump won't be participating in any debates.

Sure he might show up at a venue and get up on stage with Biden, but he will ignore the moderators, ignore the questions, ignore reality, and use any time he has allotted to lie about himself and lie about Biden.
 
2020-08-10 11:31:02 AM  
All Trump can do is rant like a moron. He's basically a fat orange version of his voters and forum warriors.
 
2020-08-10 11:31:13 AM  

vudukungfu: he needs a shovel.
He can dig his own hole


He can't do manual labor. You could give him a step-by-step drawing and he still wouldn't figure out that he needs to dig the hole before he shiats in it.
 
2020-08-10 11:33:05 AM  

Nadie_AZ: If this Biden shows up, Trump will have his ass handed to him.

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I'm sure Trump will get bodied in the debates just like last time.  And just like last time it'll barely register.

Hell, Joe could do a full Mel Gibson on live television and I'd still wad through a sea of Covid to vote for him.
 
2020-08-10 11:33:14 AM  

DarnoKonrad: can we skip the debates this time?


No one's forcing you to watch them.

/I assume. If someone is forcing you to watch them, blink twice.
 
2020-08-10 11:33:20 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: The Perineum Falcon: Trump will not be the one who beats Biden.

His postmaster general making sure ballots do not arrive at their destination and the Russians hacking the voting machines will be the ones who beat Biden.  Trump simply gets to remain President.

Which voting machines, exactly?


Diebolds, likely - hell, you don't need to attack the endpoint when the databases all over the state are vulnerable. Do you realize how many offices have DB's that use 'sa' as the common login and lots of office workers know the password? Tell me something about how voting machines... who cares about the machines.
 
2020-08-10 11:33:45 AM  

vudukungfu: he needs a shovel.
He can dig his own hole


Like he would know what a shovel is or how to use it.
 
2020-08-10 11:33:47 AM  
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2020-08-10 11:34:04 AM  
Trump flees press conferences after being asked slightly tough questions or challenged in any way. His debate performance is going to be a shiatshow.
 
2020-08-10 11:34:12 AM  
Trump will cancel the debates and claim they are necessary
 
2020-08-10 11:34:29 AM  

LarryDan43: Trump will cancel the debates and claim they are necessary


are not!

Fark.
 
2020-08-10 11:35:10 AM  
Yeah, he can't lurk in the background with a menacing stalker stare like he did with Hillary, so I don't know what he thinks he can do against Biden. If they turn off the mics when it's not someone's turn to talk, that would eliminate Trump's entire wheelhouse. Take away stalking and interrupting, and I can't think of another thing Trump actually did during the debates.
 
2020-08-10 11:35:38 AM  
The seriousness about preparing for the debates clashes with his claims that Biden is gaffe-prone and in cognitive decline.

Biden IS gaffe prone.

He's gaffe-prone at 77 and he was gaffe prone at 40.  He's never been a particularly good speaker but he's never demonstrated the kind of consistently disorganized thought processes that Trump has exhibited for the last decade.
 
2020-08-10 11:36:32 AM  
The moderator is definitely going to need access to a 'cut mic' button.  If not, we're in for 2016 all over again.
 
2020-08-10 11:36:47 AM  
I think the Trump campaign strategy was to hype up Biden being senile and losing mental capacity so when he stuttered or made a minor gaff CNN et al would run clips of it for weeks questioning his fitness to serve.

However they pushed this narrative so hard and have set the bar so low, if Biden shows up and doesn't drool on himself he will win by default, and if Trump makes a gaff it will back fire with stories questioning his competency.
 
2020-08-10 11:37:19 AM  
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2020-08-10 11:38:34 AM  

edmo: Over/under on Trump manufactured international crisis that requires he skip the debates?


He probably wants them, he is delusional enough after all. My general opinion is that Biden shouldn't even bother with the debates, noting they're unnecessary given the President's disappointing record of abject failure being president.

Then sit back, put on some Wagner, get a drink, and watch Trumplethinskin lose his shiat. Use a cattle prod to poke the dynamite monkey now and again to keep his mouth running.
 
2020-08-10 11:39:41 AM  
Trump will insist the debates be replaced with the two tickets squaring off in a golf foursome. And that it proves Trump isn't racist that he named Tiger Woods as his running mate
 
2020-08-10 11:40:12 AM  

Snapper Carr: The seriousness about preparing for the debates clashes with his claims that Biden is gaffe-prone and in cognitive decline.

Biden IS gaffe prone.

He's gaffe-prone at 77 and he was gaffe prone at 40.  He's never been a particularly good speaker but he's never demonstrated the kind of consistently disorganized thought processes that Trump has exhibited for the last decade.


Gaffe a minute Biden. One thing with Biden gaffes is they're not truly consequential since he doesn't double down on the stupid, correcting when he makes a mistake.
 
2020-08-10 11:41:47 AM  

Nadie_AZ: If this Biden shows up, Trump will have his ass handed to him.



Holy shiat,^^^ this. Trump can't even read from a script that's in front of him without sounding complete muppet, how in the world do his handlers believe he will be able to think on his feet? I guarantee if he starts running around the stage like a pauper in a pay toilet as he did in his debate against Hillary, Biden will tell him to sit down and shut up.
 
2020-08-10 11:42:26 AM  

LarryDan43: LarryDan43: Trump will cancel the debates and claim they are necessary

are not!

Fark.


No, you had it right the first time.
He'll demand they be moderated by OANN, John Barron, and RT and when the commission refuses he'll claim Biden is depriving the people of a fair debate on the next 4 years.
 
2020-08-10 11:43:25 AM  
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2020-08-10 11:44:57 AM  

freidog: You mean:
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV
*Mic drop*
Won't cut it for Trump?


Biden should find a way to work that in if they end up in debates.  That's all debates are in America anyway now, people don't discuss policy or sensible legislation or even need plans on how to execute it.

Don't need to know anything about governance at all. Just troll and clown on the opposition.

Be nice if it wasn't the case, but here we are.
 
2020-08-10 11:45:16 AM  
I am not sure three are necessary and we could just watch Dotard lose one. He gets nothing but daily free commercials with his idiocy and everything already and that's what put him into the consciousness of the US in 2016 was all the free air time.

Let them debate once, show Dotard walking off Marine One sulking after he gets his ass handed to him like he did after he got punked by a bunch of KPop fans and TikTok teens.
 
2020-08-10 11:49:59 AM  
Has Trump always been using that Big Boy Fattie Easy-To-Grip Sharpie* to sign stuff, or is that a development that took place after one of his strokes?

*I don't know the actual product name, clearly
 
2020-08-10 11:54:37 AM  
As long as Trump has his reality-altering Sharpie, he'll be fine.
 
2020-08-10 11:57:07 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: The Perineum Falcon: Trump will not be the one who beats Biden.

His postmaster general making sure ballots do not arrive at their destination and the Russians hacking the voting machines will be the ones who beat Biden.  Trump simply gets to remain President.

Which voting machines, exactly?


Pick one.

Note: don't focus on "Russian hacking". It might be someone from Israel, UAE, or a local red-hatted American. The important questions are whether anything was hacked at all, and if not how could you prove it?

Hold the machines to the same standards as a Vegas slot machine. Insist on paper ballots, and manually audit a random sample of them in every election to see if the machines are counting accurately.
 
2020-08-10 11:57:07 AM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, he can't lurk in the background with a menacing stalker stare like he did with Hillary, so I don't know what he thinks he can do against Biden. If they turn off the mics when it's not someone's turn to talk, that would eliminate Trump's entire wheelhouse. Take away stalking and interrupting, and I can't think of another thing Trump actually did during the debates.


He shouted wrong and rolled his eyes a lot.
 
2020-08-10 11:57:34 AM  

Michael J Faux: Has Trump always been using that Big Boy Fattie Easy-To-Grip Sharpie* to sign stuff, or is that a development that took place after one of his strokes?


The latter. I recently saw a comparison of his signatures over the years. The lines have gotten thicker and the letters less pronounced.
 
2020-08-10 12:04:16 PM  
Lie > Ignorance > Gaff
 
2020-08-10 12:07:20 PM  

emersonbiggins: The moderator is definitely going to need access to a 'cut mic' button.  If not, we're in for 2016 all over again.


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2020-08-10 12:10:34 PM  
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2020-08-10 12:12:35 PM  

inglixthemad: edmo: Over/under on Trump manufactured international crisis that requires he skip the debates?

He probably wants them, he is delusional enough after all. My general opinion is that Biden shouldn't even bother with the debates, noting they're unnecessary given the President's disappointing record of abject failure being president.

Then sit back, put on some Wagner, get a drink, and watch Trumplethinskin lose his shiat. Use a cattle prod to poke the dynamite monkey now and again to keep his mouth running.


Biden doesn't want the debates for the sake of the debates. It's fairly obvious he's the more competent non insane candidate.

Biden wants the debate COVERAGE. It's going to be a shiat show for Trump. He'll be getting torn apart by papers and cable news. He'll be getting mocked online as memes. It will drive him more insane, and it will build through all the debates. As long as he doesn't go full dynamite monkey and launch nukes Biden ends up further ahead.
 
2020-08-10 12:16:24 PM  
It's common knowledge that you always always always try to set low expectations for a debate so that you can exceed expectations. Always always always. It's a momentum thing. You win by exceeding expectations.

But Trump is practically incapable of humility. He can't do the praise Biden's debating ability shtick with any believability. And it's completely opposite of his "sleepy Joe" rhetoric.
 
2020-08-10 12:22:29 PM  
If Biden does not call Trump a pathological liar during the debate I will be saddened.
 
2020-08-10 12:25:46 PM  
The debates would be disastrous for Biden.

Trump supporters view the debates like the rap battles from 8 mile. Trump doesn't have to make a single cogent point the entire time. All he has to do is swagger around the stage and throw barbs at Biden and occasionally drop some catch phrases.

The Democrat voters are nervous that Biden's going to either forget what city he's in or go on some rambling diatribe about how society went downhill the moment that men stopped wearing hats with suits. Every "uh" or blank expression will be analyzed to death and even though Trump is being kept alive by amphetamines and virgin-blood infusions, Biden's health is going to be the center-point of discussion.

And all those millions of midwestern women who "don't follow politics" but still vote Republican anyway will sense the energy in the room and dutifully pull that Trump lever.
 
2020-08-10 12:27:58 PM  
I can just hear Biden now, "That's a lie!"

//he had better call tRump out
 
2020-08-10 12:28:31 PM  

willwall: inglixthemad: edmo: Over/under on Trump manufactured international crisis that requires he skip the debates?

He probably wants them, he is delusional enough after all. My general opinion is that Biden shouldn't even bother with the debates, noting they're unnecessary given the President's disappointing record of abject failure being president.

Then sit back, put on some Wagner, get a drink, and watch Trumplethinskin lose his shiat. Use a cattle prod to poke the dynamite monkey now and again to keep his mouth running.

Biden doesn't want the debates for the sake of the debates. It's fairly obvious he's the more competent non insane candidate.

Biden wants the debate COVERAGE. It's going to be a shiat show for Trump. He'll be getting torn apart by papers and cable news. He'll be getting mocked online as memes. It will drive him more insane, and it will build through all the debates. As long as he doesn't go full dynamite monkey and launch nukes Biden ends up further ahead.


He's already being mocked and whatnot. The point now is just to keep him on the path to self-destruction. Joe can do that talking to voters, drinking tea on the porch, and poking the mentally declining dynamite monkey with a stick every so often just to keep the cognitively impaired Trump's mouth running.
 
2020-08-10 12:30:12 PM  
If Biden does not call Trump a pathological liar during the debate I will be saddened.

Repeatedly: this is where you get to affix the tag, "The Great Prevaricator" to Trump, just like MAGAts fell for "Crooked HIllary".
 
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