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(NBC News)   Godzilla was whitewashed by Hollywood to completely distort its true meaning. Wait, shouldn't that be "greenwashed"?   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2020-08-10 7:03:20 AM  
14 votes:
This also explains why the ending was changed from Godzilla being buried under a mountain of schoolgirl panties after getting a TV game show question wrong. Just didn't translate to middle America.
 
2020-08-09 11:12:28 PM  
13 votes:
History shows again and again how nature points out the follies of man.
 
2020-08-10 5:36:31 AM  
11 votes:

stoli n coke: Doesn't this article surface every 5 years or so, usually when a film school grad is trying to illustrate that they get a piece of popular entertainment on a deeper level than everybody else?


Yes. Along with comments like these, trying to impart a sense of casual superiority.
 
2020-08-10 9:31:43 AM  
9 votes:
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Godzilla can be what ever you like..lol
 
2020-08-09 11:58:24 PM  
5 votes:
if they wanted to put across a Serious Message in their Serious Film maybe they should've actually tried to hide that the Big Metaphor was a guy in a stupid rubber suit knocking down toy sets.
 
2020-08-10 8:24:32 AM  
4 votes:

dittybopper: Lesson for Japan:  Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'.

Seriously, though, this has been known by like everybody who has ever been even mildly interested in Godzilla for decades.


They attacked a harbor, and we firebombed their capital and nuked 2 cities. Overreaction much?
 
2020-08-10 8:04:55 AM  
4 votes:

FarkingChas: You mean that Raymond Burr was not really in the movie? This is my shocked face. :0


Also:  Raymond Burr never set foot on the USS Constitution, so Ironside was false advertising.
 
2020-08-10 7:25:17 AM  
4 votes:
Godzilla trivia:  If you ever need to warn the Japanese of an impending attack via Morse code, this is how you send "Gojira" in Japanese Morse:

---- ..   --.-. ..   ...
GO         JI       RA


/Don't send ..-..  ...   ..-..  ...   ..-..  ...
//Bad things happened last time it was sent.
 
2020-08-10 8:14:13 PM  
3 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: This also explains why the ending was changed from Godzilla being buried under a mountain of schoolgirl panties after getting a TV game show question wrong. Just didn't translate to middle America.


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2020-08-10 8:23:55 AM  
3 votes:

BafflerMeal: stoli n coke: Doesn't this article surface every 5 years or so, usually when a film school grad is trying to illustrate that they get a piece of popular entertainment on a deeper level than everybody else?

Yes. Along with comments like these, trying to impart a sense of casual superiority.


Hey, there's nothing casual about our superiority here!
 
2020-08-10 6:57:13 AM  
3 votes:
Lesson for Japan:  Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'.

Seriously, though, this has been known by like everybody who has ever been even mildly interested in Godzilla for decades.
 
2020-08-10 6:05:23 AM  
3 votes:

FarkingChas: You mean that Raymond Burr was not really in the movie? This is my shocked face. :0


yes I see
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2020-08-10 5:28:41 AM  
3 votes:
You mean that Raymond Burr was not really in the movie? This is my shocked face. :0
 
2020-08-10 8:13:40 PM  
2 votes:

dittybopper: cocozilla: dittybopper: cocozilla: dittybopper: realmolo: skyotter: Really, only the 1954 film had an atomic message.  Then it turned into a monster-fight franchise for kids.

Until the American film in '98 which returned to the nuclear metaphor.

So your blog both sucks, and is wrong.

Yup.

My godson was really into Godzilla movies when he was little. He still enjoys them. I've seen almost all of them over the years, and...they're all terrible. But they are terrible in a really hypnotic way that is perfect for a lazy weekend afternoon. They scratch a really specific itch that almost nothing else does.

It's my contention that the 1998 Godzilla is a better film in every way to all of those films *EXCEPT* the original.  Better plot, better acting, better "science", better "little Godzillas"*, just better all around.   The original beats it only because of originality and depth of emotion without any attempt at humor, because the subject wasn't humorous.


*Minilla/Minya is the developmentally disabled Scrappy Doo of the Godzilla franchise.

15%
TOMATOMETER

28%
AUDIENCE SCORE


Critically it ranks at the bottom...and at the bottom with its audience score. It was appalling, as a Godzilla film...and as a movie.

"Millions of people can't be wrong!"

Yes, yes they can.   For example, regardless of what party you belong to or your general ideological leanings, I'm sure there is an election you can point to where the majority of people had their head up their ass.

Just because a bunch of people agree on something doesn't make it objectively true.

If you're claiming that Godzilla vs. Megalon or Ebirah, Horror of the Deep is better than the 1998 Godzilla, not only are you wrong, but your brain is defective and you need an MRI stat.

Starting with an ad hominem attack. Good move. The  question isn't is it better than such utter trash as megalon.. The point is that given a 130 million dollar budget, and over two years production time, they came up with a film which had a really bad script, really bad performances, utterly lackluster monster, that failed in every respect of good filmmaking. it was critically reviled and remains so. If you like it, good, but that doesn't mean it's a good film. There's not a single original bone in its entire irradiated iguana body.

I ended with an adult hominem attack.  I didn't start with it.


Stupid auto-erotica.
 
2020-08-10 12:25:23 PM  
2 votes:

dittybopper: cocozilla: dittybopper: realmolo: skyotter: Really, only the 1954 film had an atomic message.  Then it turned into a monster-fight franchise for kids.

Until the American film in '98 which returned to the nuclear metaphor.

So your blog both sucks, and is wrong.

Yup.

My godson was really into Godzilla movies when he was little. He still enjoys them. I've seen almost all of them over the years, and...they're all terrible. But they are terrible in a really hypnotic way that is perfect for a lazy weekend afternoon. They scratch a really specific itch that almost nothing else does.

It's my contention that the 1998 Godzilla is a better film in every way to all of those films *EXCEPT* the original.  Better plot, better acting, better "science", better "little Godzillas"*, just better all around.   The original beats it only because of originality and depth of emotion without any attempt at humor, because the subject wasn't humorous.


*Minilla/Minya is the developmentally disabled Scrappy Doo of the Godzilla franchise.

15%
TOMATOMETER

28%
AUDIENCE SCORE


Critically it ranks at the bottom...and at the bottom with its audience score. It was appalling, as a Godzilla film...and as a movie.

"Millions of people can't be wrong!"

Yes, yes they can.   For example, regardless of what party you belong to or your general ideological leanings, I'm sure there is an election you can point to where the majority of people had their head up their ass.

Just because a bunch of people agree on something doesn't make it objectively true.

If you're claiming that Godzilla vs. Megalon or Ebirah, Horror of the Deep is better than the 1998 Godzilla, not only are you wrong, but your brain is defective and you need an MRI stat.


Starting with an ad hominem attack. Good move. The  question isn't is it better than such utter trash as megalon.. The point is that given a 130 million dollar budget, and over two years production time, they came up with a film which had a really bad script, really bad performances, utterly lackluster monster, that failed in every respect of good filmmaking. it was critically reviled and remains so. If you like it, good, but that doesn't mean it's a good film. There's not a single original bone in its entire irradiated iguana body.
 
2020-08-10 7:20:12 AM  
2 votes:

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: FarkingChas: You mean that Raymond Burr was not really in the movie? This is my shocked face. :0

[YouTube video: yes I see]


*shakes tiny fist*

Well done.
 
2020-08-10 7:18:24 AM  
2 votes:

FarkingChas: dittybopper: FarkingChas: dittybopper:
Seriously, though, this has been known by like everybody who has ever been even mildly interested in Godzilla for decades.

True. But there are always those pesky young'uns coming along. They don't know and need to learn.
If it weren't for those darned kids ...

Fark skews heavily to Gen X.   Few kids around here.

So? The article is not on Fark. We's just talking about it. The article may be seen by the brats.


But it was greenlit on Fark.  Hence our discussion.

That means that some Farker thought it pertinent, and some other beknighted wanker thought it worthy of being greenlit.
 
2020-08-10 5:20:50 AM  
2 votes:
Godzilla as a franchise is as subtle as a nuclear warhead. Great film 101 essay. C-.
 
2020-08-11 8:29:05 AM  
1 vote:

Nurglitch: What's that rule about Fark not being someone's personal erotica site? Of late one finds it being more observed in its violation than in its preservation.


I see no such rule like that.

https://www.fark.com/farq/posting/#Po​s​ting_Rules_-_The_Basics
 
2020-08-10 10:37:33 PM  
1 vote:
What's that rule about Fark not being someone's personal erotica site? Of late one finds it being more observed in its violation than in its preservation.
 
2020-08-10 8:18:41 PM  
1 vote:
But what about shrill little boys in hot pants?
 
2020-08-10 11:28:10 AM  
1 vote:
In the year after the bombings, Japanese scientists did a lot of data collection on the effects and aftereffects of the bomb. Nobody else had ever done this because, duh, no one had ever dropped a nuke on a city before.

Naturally, the occupying American forces suppressed and censored all of it.
 
2020-08-10 10:15:30 AM  
1 vote:

DecemberNitro: That's not what "whitewashing" means.


Whitewashing has multiple meanings that depend on the context.
 
2020-08-10 9:55:36 AM  
1 vote:

dittybopper: realmolo: skyotter: Really, only the 1954 film had an atomic message.  Then it turned into a monster-fight franchise for kids.

Until the American film in '98 which returned to the nuclear metaphor.

So your blog both sucks, and is wrong.

Yup.

My godson was really into Godzilla movies when he was little. He still enjoys them. I've seen almost all of them over the years, and...they're all terrible. But they are terrible in a really hypnotic way that is perfect for a lazy weekend afternoon. They scratch a really specific itch that almost nothing else does.

It's my contention that the 1998 Godzilla is a better film in every way to all of those films *EXCEPT* the original.  Better plot, better acting, better "science", better "little Godzillas"*, just better all around.   The original beats it only because of originality and depth of emotion without any attempt at humor, because the subject wasn't humorous.


*Minilla/Minya is the developmentally disabled Scrappy Doo of the Godzilla franchise.


15%
TOMATOMETER

28%
AUDIENCE SCORE


Critically it ranks at the bottom...and at the bottom with its audience score. It was appalling, as a Godzilla film...and as a movie.
 
2020-08-10 9:44:13 AM  
1 vote:

SirEattonHogg: The American version may have been edited and as such, less politicized and less campy


It was *MORE* campy.

The original is actually a pretty dark and serious film.  Gojira is not campy in any way.   It's not played up intentionally for fun, though modern eyes might see it as "camp" because they can't distinguish it from other films of the era because of the limitations of the special effects of the time.

Now, the subsequent Godzilla films?  Yeah, they got campy.   Even the sequel, Godzilla Raids Again, is full of camp.

I can't watch Ebirah, Horror of the Deep without thinking this:

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-10 7:07:36 AM  
1 vote:

FarkingChas: dittybopper:
Seriously, though, this has been known by like everybody who has ever been even mildly interested in Godzilla for decades.

True. But there are always those pesky young'uns coming along. They don't know and need to learn.
If it weren't for those darned kids ...


Fark skews heavily to Gen X.   Few kids around here.
 
2020-08-10 7:07:00 AM  
1 vote:
dittybopper:
Seriously, though, this has been known by like everybody who has ever been even mildly interested in Godzilla for decades.

True. But there are always those pesky young'uns coming along. They don't know and need to learn.
If it weren't for those darned kids ...
 
2020-08-10 7:06:49 AM  
1 vote:

Thrakkorzog: The author forgot to mention that the Japanese had the "Oxygen Destroyer" and were not completely helpless and it showed them fighting off Godzilla with jet planes and tanks as if they weren't totally defeated. In the end the scientist that developed the weapon died with it on purpose so that it couldn't be used again. Lots of symbolism in the movie.


It also marked the last time Godzilla was truly mortal, in that he was killed by the action of humans, until the 1998 US version, which honestly is much better than it gets credit for being.  If it had been titled "The Lizard That Ate New York" or something like that it would have been received a lot better.
 
2020-08-10 5:15:13 AM  
1 vote:
Doesn't this article surface every 5 years or so, usually when a film school grad is trying to illustrate that they get a piece of popular entertainment on a deeper level than everybody else?
 
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