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2020-08-09 3:45:35 PM  
40 votes:
FTFA: "One of the groups outraged were the local Black Lives Matter organization, which is made up of 20-30 people who have been peacefully protesting every Saturday in Carson City in front of the legislature, many of whom are juveniles."

They let juveniles make laws in Nevada? That explains quite a bit, really.
 
2020-08-09 5:04:03 PM  
30 votes:
The sad part is that this could be true, but the press has lost all credibility.
 
2020-08-09 5:34:56 PM  
16 votes:
When antifa attacked people and businesses in Berkeley and other places, the police did nothing and I saw a whole lot of farkers cheer.  Shoe.  Other foot.

In both situations the police should have stopped the violence.  In all cases, your rights do not extend to attacking people you disagree with.
 
2020-08-09 5:07:41 PM  
15 votes:

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.


Ironic since people don't want to see cops carrying weapons. I come a gun toting part of the country and most Cops have no problem with people who open carry. They know the open carry people understand if they F up while carrying and it has anything to do with the weapon they have that they lose it, their ability to carry and go to prison.
 
KIA
2020-08-09 7:09:11 PM  
14 votes:

vgss: "My mother who was there today with a broken toe was walking a little bit slower because of her injury, and we were being chased by this angry mob of counter protesters. The (BLM) group was moving ahead and I heard behind me 'Oh we've got a straggler, she's with BLM' and people were screaming at her, getting in her face, calling her horrible names. I went back there and told them off and put my arm around her and walked her up. About a block later I realized I had lost her again, so I turned around to try and find her, and tried to walk through the crowd, and the crowd of angry protesters chasing us wouldn't let me pass. I told them 'my injured mother is back there and I need to get to her' and they started screaming 'Oh he needs his mommy, f*** off, and they wouldn't let me pass.""

This country is a tomb.

We are on a direct collision course with complete, societal collapse


Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.
 
2020-08-09 6:18:35 PM  
10 votes:
Not one video.  Yeah, fake.
 
2020-08-09 7:55:38 PM  
9 votes:

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol. If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


See the bolded part? That's a decidedly you thing. Perhaps rub one out and get cocks off your brain a few minutes?

The point of open carry is, in fact, exactly the point of BLM protests: the exercise of individual constitutional rights.
 
2020-08-09 6:01:01 PM  
9 votes:
...two teenaged protesters were separated from the group, directly across from the sheriff's office, and were attempting to get into their car and leave the scene.

One man on top of a transformer box yelled to the crowd that the BLM protesters had a right to exercise their first amendment.

"This is America, they have the right to speak!" the man yelled, who was then booed before the counter protesters began chanting "USA! USA!" at him.

However, their vehicle was surrounded by counter protesters, who screamed "We'll f****** kill you" "Get out of the car" and other threats.

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2020-08-09 6:51:05 PM  
8 votes:

Hypnotic Harlequin: Fissile: phalamir: Fissile: How much more will decent Americans need to see before they realize the police today are nothing more than einsatz kommandos who will have to be opposed by armed force?

Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta.

Now that I think of it, no, I can't think of a time in the US when the police were anything but an armed gang whose only purpose was to protect the owner class.  I defer to you on this matter.

You guys are so absurd.  Who exactly is the "owner class?"  Everyone who owns anything apparently.


Communist backed organizations always denounce and demonize everyone who have any possessions of any sort.  That excuse was used by the Soviets to steal all the farms, causing a massive famine and millions of deaths.   The same excuse was used again in China's cultural revolution. And again it caused famines and deaths in the millions.  I'm probably in the "owner class" because I have a job and a car, despite not owning my house (rental) because it's nothing to do with whether people are good or bad.  They are being measured by their success and the more successful you are, they more evil you must be.
 
2020-08-09 7:22:20 PM  
7 votes:

baka-san: MerelyFoolish: If a bunch of bored, spoiled children came down my street chanting "fark the Police", and "Police are Motherfarkers" and "fark 12", I, too, would step outside and have a word with them.

I recommend anyone not familiar with the "speakers" at the rallies should watch a few of the videos - or check out the live broadcasts each evening on the "Woke" channel on the twitch.tv broadcast service.  The most common model is a young person with a megaphone screaming profanities and chastising white people for not doing enough for the movement.  Quite pitiful, and unwanted in any neighborhood.

Do the naughty words hurt your fee fees?


Good job entirely missing the point.  Your name is appropriate.
 
2020-08-09 7:03:32 PM  
6 votes:
If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough.
 
2020-08-09 4:59:37 PM  
6 votes:
How much more will decent Americans need to see before they realize the police today are nothing more than einsatz kommandos who will have to be opposed by armed force?
 
2020-08-09 3:44:43 PM  
6 votes:
Cops and blue lives "protestors" are farking Nazis.
 
2020-08-09 9:44:26 PM  
5 votes:

4th Horseman: Hypnotic Harlequin:

It doesn't mean that the police should stand around and do nothing.


Do you not know how unions work?
 
2020-08-09 8:31:23 PM  
5 votes:
This reminds me of 1930's Germany when the newspapers were reporting that scientists had proven that Jewish people had descended from rats.  Seemingly intelligent people believed it, it was the press, the science must therefore be settled.  I'm not at all surprised when seemingly intelligent progressives that I know follow the same path of mindless group thought.  People are so easily manipulated, especially when you play with the most basic and primal human emotion, hate.

Germany, Italy, Cuba, Russia, China, etc.....  History just keeps repeating.
 
2020-08-09 7:13:22 PM  
5 votes:
If a bunch of bored, spoiled children came down my street chanting "fark the Police", and "Police are Motherfarkers" and "fark 12", I, too, would step outside and have a word with them.

I recommend anyone not familiar with the "speakers" at the rallies should watch a few of the videos - or check out the live broadcasts each evening on the "Woke" channel on the twitch.tv broadcast service.  The most common model is a young person with a megaphone screaming profanities and chastising white people for not doing enough for the movement.  Quite pitiful, and unwanted in any neighborhood.
 
KIA
2020-08-09 7:12:05 PM  
5 votes:

4th Horseman: "If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough."

If you say something like this, you are probably a disingenuous ass that is deliberately misunderstanding what "defund the police" means.


Oh, please explain out two apparently perfectly well understood words.

"Defund" - defund[ dee-fuhnd ]verb (used with object)
1) to withdraw financial support from, especially as an instrument of legislative control:
Many university programs were defunded by the recent government cutbacks.
2) to deplete the financial resources of:
The cost of the lawsuit defunded the company's operating budget.

"Police" - police[ puh-lees ] noun
Also called police force. an organized civil force for maintaining order, preventing and detecting crime, and enforcing the laws.
 
2020-08-09 6:41:05 PM  
5 votes:
Defund / Abolish the Police
 
2020-08-09 5:08:03 PM  
5 votes:
And not one twatter or fb or IG video of the alleged incident? I call fake news.
 
2020-08-09 7:51:49 PM  
4 votes:

OgreMagi: iron de havilland: OgreMagi: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.

Is that what you're scared of?

Are you stupid?


I am talking to you, so, well.
 
2020-08-09 5:31:35 PM  
4 votes:

Fissile: tfresh: nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

Ironic since people don't want to see cops carrying weapons. I come a gun toting part of the country and most Cops have no problem with people who open carry. They know the open carry people understand if they F up while carrying and it has anything to do with the weapon they have that they lose it, their ability to carry and go to prison.

Ha.  Oh, you're serious!   Let me laugh even harder.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH,,,,,,


Sure. Laugh it up. That's how you got trump. I didn't say the cops liking open carry people was right. I just said it's true and by your dismissal you show one of the vectors of how we got here.
 
2020-08-09 5:10:25 PM  
4 votes:
Sean VasDeferens:

The sad part is that this could be true, but the I press has have lost all credibility.

Fixed that for ya.
 
2020-08-09 8:44:32 PM  
3 votes:

iron de havilland: Sean VasDeferens: This reminds me of 1930's Germany when the newspapers were reporting that scientists had proven that Jewish people had descended from rats.  Seemingly intelligent people believed it, it was the press, the science must therefore be settled.  I'm not at all surprised when seemingly intelligent progressives that I know follow the same path of mindless group thought.  People are so easily manipulated, especially when you play with the most basic and primal human emotion, hate.

Germany, Italy, Cuba, Russia, China, etc.....  History just keeps repeating.

Totalitarian governments come to power and shut down the free press?

You're right, but I don't think you understand why.


No, they control the narrative. I suggest you make friends with someone who has lived through one of these histories and have many long talks with them.
 
2020-08-09 7:47:39 PM  
3 votes:

iron de havilland: OgreMagi: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.

Is that what you're scared of?


Are you stupid?
 
2020-08-09 7:26:45 PM  
3 votes:

Hypnotic Harlequin: FTFA: "We were not allowed to exercise our first amendment right and nor was it protected by the people who swore an oath to protect that right," said Engageante Jackson, 23, who has been a leader at the Carson City BLM protests.

I like how Mr. Engageante has zero awareness that he is, in fact, claiming his first amendment rights were violated because the state did not violate the first amendment rights of people who disagree with him.

I have zero sympathy for BLM protesters who encounter violence from counter-protesters. BLM has made it clear that they support violent protests, and that they believe the ends justifies the means.  You want to use violence to make a point, you lose the right to complain when violence is used against you to make a point.  When you defend violent riots that inflict harm on innocent people as a just means to make your message heard, you can't be surprised to discover people hate and loathe you and wish to see you driven from their communities.


Just like this "peaceful protest" just outside of Seattle.

This video has the money quotes:
"We are peaceful! You pointed a gun at my face!"
"That's why you are peaceful."


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2020-08-09 6:05:19 PM  
3 votes:

4th Horseman: phalamir: johnny queso: it should be obvious at this point that cops are both bullies and abject pussies.

Wordy way to say Republicans, but okay.

I found an even wordier way!

Tangentially related...Tom Tom Club - Wordy Rappinghood
 
2020-08-09 5:41:22 PM  
3 votes:

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


I feel the same way about people that drive expensive sports cars and giant trucks. I don't see the point and I think they're compensating for something with a machine that, in the wrong hands, can kill a lot of people very quickly. Therefore, I think they should be made illegal.
 
2020-08-09 5:36:10 PM  
3 votes:

phalamir: Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta


One of the oldest police forces in the US, St Louis Municipal ppolice, has a direct lineage to slave patrols.
 
2020-08-10 6:43:10 AM  
2 votes:

pedrop357: On a plus note, there was no intense peace from the protesters like we've seen in other cities, and Douglas County does seem to be vandalism, looting, and arson free after they left.


In Seattle and Portland, the Proud Boys, KEKNation and the Boogaloo Boys were out in force smashing windows and setting fires. When they showed up at protests with AR-15s, Glocks and such, the Police welcomed them in with open arms and let them through the lines of protesters. There are videos of Police Officers smashing storefronts and encouraging people to loot the stores.

Minneapolis Riots Masked Cop Smashing Shop Windows
Youtube gCQLFGOXock
 
2020-08-10 4:27:43 AM  
2 votes:
Defund / abolish the police.  Build a robust social welfare network.  Eliminate the causes of crime.  Have real public safety.
 
2020-08-09 10:38:40 PM  
2 votes:

KIA: waxbeans: KIA: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

Nobody understands how you link these things together.

It was a question. I asked it because of feels expressed in someone's comment.
This isn't complicated.
🙄

I'm trying to see where people minds are at.

What is the color of fugue?

How does one get to San Jose?

See how those are not linked at all?


If you don't see the line from slavery to today. Maybe, there is no point in trying to reach you or question you. Clearly you don't stand against evil.
Such is life.
You shall be recalled.
 
2020-08-09 9:47:47 PM  
2 votes:

Glitchwerks: Sean VasDeferens: The sad part is that this could be true, but the press has lost all credibility.

The sad part is that you continue to post after you've already lost all credibility.


I mean.... It's Fark.

Nobody has any credibility here; and that's exactly how it should be.
 
2020-08-09 9:43:59 PM  
2 votes:

4th Horseman: Hypnotic Harlequin: 4th Horseman: "If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough."

If you say something like this, you are probably a disingenuous ass that is deliberately misunderstanding what "defund the police" means.

That's pretty funny coming from someone whose entire premise is that "defund the police" doesn't mean defund the police.

How is that my "entire premise"?

We have increased police budgets while also cutting social programs for decades, and it has put unqualified officers into way too many situations that they are not equipped to resolve. Throw in Qualified Immunity and being armed to the farking teeth, there is little incentive to not shoot first and sort it all out later.

It happens way, way too often.

Mental health, drug addiction, and other social services can help ease the police's workload, while also be better suited to their particular expertise.


I would add to that, stop equipping the police like armed mercenaries.  If they look like an invading army, they will act like an invading army.

No more fatigues tucked into combat boots.  No more second hand armored personnel carriers.  You get a police uniform and a squad car unless you are on foot patrol.  Yes, bring that back.  I'm still debating whether cops should get guns.  They haven't acted responsible enough to have them, in my opinion.
 
2020-08-09 9:41:47 PM  
2 votes:
Hypnotic Harlequin:

It doesn't mean that the police should stand around and do nothing.
 
2020-08-09 8:40:07 PM  
2 votes:
If it were up to me, I'd have cops keeping the groups apart and doing whatever necessary to anyone who attempted to attack or harass the other group, but we don't want cops keeping the peace any more, so here we are.
 
2020-08-09 8:14:06 PM  
2 votes:
Protestors need to start organizing in large numbers and open-carry. (I hate guns but I recognize that a level playing field is necessary to scare off bullies.)
 
2020-08-09 8:12:47 PM  
2 votes:

Sean VasDeferens: The sad part is that this could be true, but the press has lost all credibility.


Second time this week I've had cause to say, "Shut up, Sean."
 
2020-08-09 8:05:20 PM  
2 votes:

OgreMagi: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.


Did they buy their records first?
 
KIA
2020-08-09 7:54:18 PM  
2 votes:

waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?


Nobody understands how you link these things together.
 
2020-08-09 7:52:23 PM  
2 votes:

MerelyFoolish: If a bunch of bored, spoiled children came down my street chanting "fark the Police", and "Police are Motherfarkers" and "fark 12", I, too, would step outside and have a word with them.

I recommend anyone not familiar with the "speakers" at the rallies should watch a few of the videos - or check out the live broadcasts each evening on the "Woke" channel on the twitch.tv broadcast service.  The most common model is a young person with a megaphone screaming profanities and chastising white people for not doing enough for the movement.  Quite pitiful, and unwanted in any neighborhood.


You are part of the problem. Apparently.
 
2020-08-09 7:42:08 PM  
2 votes:

waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?


In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.
 
2020-08-09 7:39:46 PM  
2 votes:

waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?


Masters****
 
2020-08-09 7:26:05 PM  
2 votes:
One side in this confrontation thinks that Black Americans should be treated fairly and with respect. The other side disagrees with that. It's pretty easy for Americans of the non-asshole variety to pick a side here, and it ain't the side wearing camo and waving guns around.

As sad as it makes me to know that there are people this terrible still running around, it makes me much more sad to know that they think it is ok to gather and act so terrible in public. It is shameful. I am ashamed for my country.
 
2020-08-09 7:18:25 PM  
2 votes:
Wtf are we paying these bastards for? If it's legal for them to stand around with their thumbs in their asses while citizens are being assaulted, they are useless. If they don't want to put themselves in danger to protect the public, take their guns away and put them behind a desk, and cut their pay. Let people who have balls and integrity carry guns.
 
2020-08-09 6:53:27 PM  
2 votes:
it's a tale as old as time. Police don't want to be seen cracking down on peaceful protesters so they send in their thug buddies to do so they can basically ignore it till protesters start fighting back at which point they crack down on the protesters using their goons violence as a pretext. It's nothing new, or even all that clever.
 
2020-08-09 6:39:27 PM  
2 votes:
You gotta give local, state and federal folks their "taste" if you wanna gouge. It's a big boy game.
 
2020-08-09 6:37:57 PM  
2 votes:

Jake Havechek: Cops and blue lives "protestors" are farking Nazis.


So, you really mean white people?
 
2020-08-09 6:17:29 PM  
2 votes:
And this is why people are sick of cops. You don't get to pick who you'd like to serve and protect. You're supposed to serve And protect all of them.
 
2020-08-09 6:15:42 PM  
2 votes:

Jake Havechek: Cops and blue lives "protestors" are farking Nazis.


I'm not willing to paint all cops with that brush (though it really feels like I'm over-estimating how many public servants are still mixed in with the rot), but yeah, if your knee-jerk response to "stop killing black people" is "back the blue", you just want to see a shiny boot on someone's head and worse. It's not about supporting police, it's about supporting the brutality.
 
2020-08-09 6:03:56 PM  
2 votes:

jso2897: OgreMagi: When antifa attacked people and businesses in Berkeley and other places, the police did nothing and I saw a whole lot of farkers cheer.  Shoe.  Other foot.

In both situations the police should have stopped the violence.  In all cases, your rights do not extend to attacking people you disagree with.

The cops have no obligation to do anything - didn't you read the thread? Only a fool would ever rely on the police to protect them from a criminal or terrorist. You call the police when there's a loud party.
When you are in any real danger, better look elsewhere.


You aren't wrong.  I said the police SHOULD have done something.  I am not delusional enough to think they would actually give a shiat about anyone but themselves.
 
2020-08-09 5:51:22 PM  
2 votes:
"My mother who was there today with a broken toe was walking a little bit slower because of her injury, and we were being chased by this angry mob of counter protesters. The (BLM) group was moving ahead and I heard behind me 'Oh we've got a straggler, she's with BLM' and people were screaming at her, getting in her face, calling her horrible names. I went back there and told them off and put my arm around her and walked her up. About a block later I realized I had lost her again, so I turned around to try and find her, and tried to walk through the crowd, and the crowd of angry protesters chasing us wouldn't let me pass. I told them 'my injured mother is back there and I need to get to her' and they started screaming 'Oh he needs his mommy, f*** off, and they wouldn't let me pass.""

This country is a tomb.

We are on a direct collision course with complete, societal collapse
 
2020-08-09 5:47:54 PM  
2 votes:

7th Son of a 7th Son: The police have no obligation to help you.


I've never expected them to. They are there to defend the ownership class, and the white race.
In that order.
If you ain't that, you're on your own.
 
2020-08-09 5:38:41 PM  
2 votes:
You would barely have to change any of the words in a new Declaration of Independence. These counter-protesters are fine with oppression and tyranny, yet they will be the ones to proclaim loudly that they are "true patriots".

Imagine being an adult, carrying an assault rifle (or shotgun with a bayonet on it), going out with ~100 other camo clad people--who are just as cool as you are--and terrorizing 20-30 people because they dared to say black people are equal.

And calling it patriotism.
 
2020-08-09 5:22:15 PM  
2 votes:

Fissile: How much more will decent Americans need to see before they realize the police today are nothing more than einsatz kommandos who will have to be opposed by armed force?


Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta.
 
2020-08-09 5:13:03 PM  
2 votes:

tfresh: nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

Ironic since people don't want to see cops carrying weapons. I come a gun toting part of the country and most Cops have no problem with people who open carry. They know the open carry people understand if they F up while carrying and it has anything to do with the weapon they have that they lose it, their ability to carry and go to prison.


Ha.  Oh, you're serious!   Let me laugh even harder.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH,,,,,,
 
2020-08-09 5:07:29 PM  
2 votes:
Open carry is terrorism for pussies.
 
2020-08-09 4:05:08 PM  
2 votes:
I hope these dickless morans feel like big men for harassing a bunch of kids.
 
2020-08-09 1:21:57 PM  
2 votes:
Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.
 
2020-08-10 1:14:44 PM  
1 vote:
Its amazing how quickly "defund the police" turns into "help help, we need the police!".
Its almost like the protesters thought they'd be the only ones behaving badly.

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2020-08-10 8:58:05 AM  
1 vote:

Z-clipped: But go ahead and take the cops' childish, petulant, self-serving refusal to defend the rights of people they don't like as some grand irony if you want.


OK. Thanks.
 
2020-08-10 8:54:09 AM  
1 vote:

orbister: Suddenly the police are wanted.


No asshole, the police doing their jobs properly is what people have been protesting for the entire time.  The Defund movement wants fewer police brutalizing minorities and the remaining police handing actual violent crime like the assaults they are facing in TFA.

But go ahead and take the cops' childish, petulant, self-serving refusal to defend the rights of people they don't like as some grand irony if you want.  I guess you don't see the irony in having to lick the boots of police your tax dollars already pay for to get them to work.
 
2020-08-10 4:22:10 AM  
1 vote:

Voiceofreason01: "WHAT ABOUT MY FREE SPEECH" - a heavily armed conservative while threatening a teenager peacefully voicing an opinion they disagree with


Who does he think he is?  Antifa?
 
2020-08-10 4:21:37 AM  
1 vote:
Awww.  Now that the shoe is on the other foot, a lot of concern is being expressed here.
 
2020-08-10 12:38:24 AM  
1 vote:

Hypnotic Harlequin: OgreMagi: CruiserTwelve: OgreMagi: n practice, qualified immunity negates criminal law.  No one has been charged for murdering Breonna Taylor in her sleep.

Qualified Immunity has nothing to do with that.

Then why haven't the murderers been arrested and charged?  It's been how long? Two months?

No one has been arrested or charged because the investigation is ongoing.  It has been 149 days.  In 2019, an almost identical case, the Pecan Park raid, occurred in Houston.  Very similar circumstances -- no knock raid, male homeowner defended himself with a firearm, female companion was killed in crossfire, warrant was revealed to be based on investigator deception.  It took 209 days for charges to be filed and an arrest be made.

A reasonable person wouldn't expect charges to be filed until October or November.


And how long would it have taken if it wasn't a cop who committed murder?
 
2020-08-10 12:27:16 AM  
1 vote:

CruiserTwelve: OgreMagi: n practice, qualified immunity negates criminal law.  No one has been charged for murdering Breonna Taylor in her sleep.

Qualified Immunity has nothing to do with that.


Then why haven't the murderers been arrested and charged?  It's been how long? Two months?  They broke into her home and shot her while she slept.  Given she was asleep, they were in no danger, therefore they had no justification to shoot.

They farking murdered her in her sleep.  Go ahead.  Defend them.  I dare you.
 
2020-08-10 12:25:18 AM  
1 vote:

CruiserTwelve: OgreMagi: The Supreme Court has already ruled that the police have no legal duty to protect you.

No, they didn't. Stop misinterpreting Gonzales V. City of Castle Rock.


Warren v. District of Columbia, biatch.

"the duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists".
 
2020-08-09 11:15:55 PM  
1 vote:

Benjimin_Dover: 4th Horseman: Throw in Qualified Immunity and being armed to the farking teeth, there is little incentive to not shoot first and sort it all out later.

Yes there is. Qualified immunity doesn't negate criminal law.


Have you not been paying attention?  We're having riots because cops are not be held accountable for their criminal actions.  In practice, qualified immunity negates criminal law.  No one has been charged for murdering Breonna Taylor in her sleep.
 
KIA
2020-08-09 10:17:16 PM  
1 vote:

waxbeans: KIA: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

Nobody understands how you link these things together.

It was a question. I asked it because of feels expressed in someone's comment.
This isn't complicated.
🙄

I'm trying to see where people minds are at.


What is the color of fugue?

How does one get to San Jose?

See how those are not linked at all?
 
2020-08-09 10:06:42 PM  
1 vote:

OgreMagi: 4th Horseman: Hypnotic Harlequin: 4th Horseman: "If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough."

If you say something like this, you are probably a disingenuous ass that is deliberately misunderstanding what "defund the police" means.

That's pretty funny coming from someone whose entire premise is that "defund the police" doesn't mean defund the police.

How is that my "entire premise"?

We have increased police budgets while also cutting social programs for decades, and it has put unqualified officers into way too many situations that they are not equipped to resolve. Throw in Qualified Immunity and being armed to the farking teeth, there is little incentive to not shoot first and sort it all out later.

It happens way, way too often.

Mental health, drug addiction, and other social services can help ease the police's workload, while also be better suited to their particular expertise.

I would add to that, stop equipping the police like armed mercenaries.  If they look like an invading army, they will act like an invading army.

No more fatigues tucked into combat boots.  No more second hand armored personnel carriers.  You get a police uniform and a squad car unless you are on foot patrol.  Yes, bring that back.  I'm still debating whether cops should get guns.  They haven't acted responsible enough to have them, in my opinion.


The fatigues on protestors is more disconcerting to me than the guns. Its America, anyone can get guns.

If you were in genuine fear of something, you'd pop up with a rifle in your bathrobe and shorts if you had to.
Wearing military gear is them self-identifying as a paramilitary, parapolice group like many authoritarians have done before.
This story is entirely about the police conveniently looking the other way while allowing the brownshirts, in this case camo wearers, to do the heavy lifting in busting heads in order to maintain some semblance of legitimate authority for the rubes.That's really dangerous. I'd be taking as much information as I could about these guys. Pictures with drones, all that. They should be held accountable when the time comes.
 
2020-08-09 9:52:13 PM  
1 vote:

thehobbes: phalamir: Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta

One of the oldest police forces in the US, St Louis Municipal ppolice, has a direct lineage to slave patrols.


I mean... if slavery was legal at the time, all you are saying is that cops were commissioned to help stop people from breaking the law.

Cops have enforced a lot of laws that are no longer in favor. It hardly seems fair to hold that against them. They do plenty that is both illegal and morally wrong we can hate them for.

In the days of prohibition a lot of cops busted people for alcohol too. In my state, cops used to bust people for were too.
 
2020-08-09 8:50:36 PM  
1 vote:
Don't want to do your job Sheriff? There's the door.
 
2020-08-09 8:16:31 PM  
1 vote:

Carousel Beast: nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol. If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.

See the bolded part? That's a decidedly you thing. Perhaps rub one out and get cocks off your brain a few minutes?

The point of open carry is, in fact, exactly the point of BLM protests: the exercise of individual constitutional rights.


To murder at your leisure and without expending any real effort? I'm not sure you know what BLM is about.
 
2020-08-09 7:52:32 PM  
1 vote:
My dad was there. I think he just finally realized why people are protesting--it was very academic to him before, even if he supported it. He even agreed with me that the problem with Republicans is evil, not just 'poor misunderstood babies'.

I don't think he understands yet that he got screamed at in large part because he's a black Hispanic guy. He thinks he's 'culturally white'. But he got a few concepts through his skull, which is kind of amazing.

/he didn't get punched because he's a 300-lb adult, but he still got a fair amount of shiat
 
2020-08-09 7:44:19 PM  
1 vote:

OgreMagi: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.


Is that what you're scared of?
 
2020-08-09 7:41:30 PM  
1 vote:
No protection for terrorists.
 
2020-08-09 7:39:27 PM  
1 vote:

KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.


So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?
 
2020-08-09 7:23:37 PM  
1 vote:

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


Open carry is pure intimidation and half a step from terrorism at the best of times
 
2020-08-09 7:20:16 PM  
1 vote:

Lee in Texas: legal for them to stand around with their thumbs in their asses


Yes.  It's legal.  The Supreme Court has already ruled that the police have no legal duty to protect you.
 
2020-08-09 7:06:32 PM  
1 vote:
"If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough."

If you say something like this, you are probably a disingenuous ass that is deliberately misunderstanding what "defund the police" means.
 
KIA
2020-08-09 7:05:55 PM  
1 vote:

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


Yeah.  People ought to be able to carry concealed without having to get permits and licenses.  That way you'll feel comfortable again.
 
2020-08-09 7:01:20 PM  
1 vote:

tfresh: nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

Ironic since people don't want to see cops carrying weapons. I come a gun toting part of the country and most Cops have no problem with people who open carry. They know the open carry people understand if they F up while carrying and it has anything to do with the weapon they have that they lose it, their ability to carry and go to prison.


Hopefully one day drones will snipe open carry, because it's illegal. Finely.
 
2020-08-09 6:52:36 PM  
1 vote:

Fissile: phalamir: Fissile: How much more will decent Americans need to see before they realize the police today are nothing more than einsatz kommandos who will have to be opposed by armed force?

Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta.

Now that I think of it, no, I can't think of a time in the US when the police were anything but an armed gang whose only purpose was to protect the owner class.  I defer to you on this matter.


Nope, pretty much.
Was thinking of good policing, pretty much only exists outside the US

WIll say when I was a kid, a cop would be proud of never having to fire his weapon on a 30y career
 
2020-08-09 6:21:08 PM  
1 vote:

TWX: nvmac: Open carry freaks me out. I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is. I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol. If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

There's a time and a place for everything.

A friend of mine, back in the eighties when he was in his early twenties, had to bicycle through rough neighborhoods regularly.  He'd strap his holstered pistol to his hip and he'd be left alone.  Unarmed, people would fark with him from time to time, either getting aggressive in cars or approaching on foot.

I never saw him open-carry and to my knowledge he never carried in the social settings we were acquainted, as there was no cause to do so.  To him a pistol was a tool for a purpose and outside of settings where there was a known heightened risk he didn't feel a need to arm himself, nor did he ever feel a need to proselytize or to challenge those that didn't wish to be around firearms.


Even though I would probably be classified as a gun hugger, I am usually against open carry under most circumstances.  Most.  There are situations where it is warranted.  However, those assholes who dress up in fatigues and go shopping with their ARs in a combat sling are not helping gun rights one tiny bit.  They are making it easier to get anti-gun laws passed.
 
2020-08-09 6:20:03 PM  
1 vote:
"WHAT ABOUT MY FREE SPEECH" - a heavily armed conservative while threatening a teenager peacefully voicing an opinion they disagree with
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 6:17:38 PM  
1 vote:

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out. I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is. I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol. If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.


There's a time and a place for everything.

A friend of mine, back in the eighties when he was in his early twenties, had to bicycle through rough neighborhoods regularly.  He'd strap his holstered pistol to his hip and he'd be left alone.  Unarmed, people would fark with him from time to time, either getting aggressive in cars or approaching on foot.

I never saw him open-carry and to my knowledge he never carried in the social settings we were acquainted, as there was no cause to do so.  To him a pistol was a tool for a purpose and outside of settings where there was a known heightened risk he didn't feel a need to arm himself, nor did he ever feel a need to proselytize or to challenge those that didn't wish to be around firearms.
 
2020-08-09 5:45:02 PM  
1 vote:
Cops have no duty to chase criminals they don't feel like chasing...
 
2020-08-09 5:42:31 PM  
1 vote:

potterydove: thehobbes: phalamir: Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta

One of the oldest police forces in the US, St Louis Municipal ppolice, has a direct lineage to slave patrols.

And?


Just clarifying the first police forces weren't formed to enforce robber baron rules, they were to enforce slavery.
 
2020-08-09 5:41:06 PM  
1 vote:
The sheriff notified the Library.

Let's see. who else didn't like books...
 
2020-08-09 5:40:22 PM  
1 vote:
The police have no obligation to help you.
 
2020-08-09 5:37:12 PM  
1 vote:

kendelrio: And not one twatter or fb or IG video of the alleged incident? I call fake news.


Considering the link is to a Carson City newspaper, I doubt they'd risk slander/libel charges by posting this.
 
2020-08-09 5:22:50 PM  
1 vote:

johnny queso: it should be obvious at this point that cops are both bullies and abject pussies.


Wordy way to say Republicans, but okay.
 
2020-08-09 5:22:03 PM  
1 vote:
it should be obvious at this point that cops are both bullies and abject pussies.
 
2020-08-09 5:21:59 PM  
1 vote:

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


The sheriff of Douglas county ain't right.

After Douglas County Sheriff Dan Coverley issued a public open letter to the Douglas County Library Board stating his opposition to their proposed support of Black Lives Matter, joining numerous library associations across the country, and threatening to not respond to the library's call for assistance anymore, many across the country were outraged.
 
2020-08-09 5:05:48 PM  
1 vote:
Overzealous staffers.
 
2020-08-09 3:08:34 PM  
1 vote:

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


That's the whole point of all of this since forever. The cops choose sides based on color. End of story.
 
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