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TWX [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 6:17:38 PM  

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out. I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is. I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol. If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.


There's a time and a place for everything.

A friend of mine, back in the eighties when he was in his early twenties, had to bicycle through rough neighborhoods regularly.  He'd strap his holstered pistol to his hip and he'd be left alone.  Unarmed, people would fark with him from time to time, either getting aggressive in cars or approaching on foot.

I never saw him open-carry and to my knowledge he never carried in the social settings we were acquainted, as there was no cause to do so.  To him a pistol was a tool for a purpose and outside of settings where there was a known heightened risk he didn't feel a need to arm himself, nor did he ever feel a need to proselytize or to challenge those that didn't wish to be around firearms.
 
2020-08-09 6:18:35 PM  
Not one video.  Yeah, fake.
 
2020-08-09 6:20:03 PM  
"WHAT ABOUT MY FREE SPEECH" - a heavily armed conservative while threatening a teenager peacefully voicing an opinion they disagree with
 
2020-08-09 6:21:08 PM  

TWX: nvmac: Open carry freaks me out. I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is. I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol. If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

There's a time and a place for everything.

A friend of mine, back in the eighties when he was in his early twenties, had to bicycle through rough neighborhoods regularly.  He'd strap his holstered pistol to his hip and he'd be left alone.  Unarmed, people would fark with him from time to time, either getting aggressive in cars or approaching on foot.

I never saw him open-carry and to my knowledge he never carried in the social settings we were acquainted, as there was no cause to do so.  To him a pistol was a tool for a purpose and outside of settings where there was a known heightened risk he didn't feel a need to arm himself, nor did he ever feel a need to proselytize or to challenge those that didn't wish to be around firearms.


Even though I would probably be classified as a gun hugger, I am usually against open carry under most circumstances.  Most.  There are situations where it is warranted.  However, those assholes who dress up in fatigues and go shopping with their ARs in a combat sling are not helping gun rights one tiny bit.  They are making it easier to get anti-gun laws passed.
 
2020-08-09 6:23:07 PM  

phalamir: Fissile: How much more will decent Americans need to see before they realize the police today are nothing more than einsatz kommandos who will have to be opposed by armed force?

Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta.


Now that I think of it, no, I can't think of a time in the US when the police were anything but an armed gang whose only purpose was to protect the owner class.  I defer to you on this matter.
 
2020-08-09 6:37:57 PM  

Jake Havechek: Cops and blue lives "protestors" are farking Nazis.


So, you really mean white people?
 
2020-08-09 6:39:27 PM  
You gotta give local, state and federal folks their "taste" if you wanna gouge. It's a big boy game.
 
2020-08-09 6:41:05 PM  
Defund / Abolish the Police
 
2020-08-09 6:43:03 PM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: The police have no obligation to help you.


Then it doesn't matter when a cop gets shot dead.
 
2020-08-09 6:51:05 PM  

Hypnotic Harlequin: Fissile: phalamir: Fissile: How much more will decent Americans need to see before they realize the police today are nothing more than einsatz kommandos who will have to be opposed by armed force?

Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta.

Now that I think of it, no, I can't think of a time in the US when the police were anything but an armed gang whose only purpose was to protect the owner class.  I defer to you on this matter.

You guys are so absurd.  Who exactly is the "owner class?"  Everyone who owns anything apparently.


Communist backed organizations always denounce and demonize everyone who have any possessions of any sort.  That excuse was used by the Soviets to steal all the farms, causing a massive famine and millions of deaths.   The same excuse was used again in China's cultural revolution. And again it caused famines and deaths in the millions.  I'm probably in the "owner class" because I have a job and a car, despite not owning my house (rental) because it's nothing to do with whether people are good or bad.  They are being measured by their success and the more successful you are, they more evil you must be.
 
2020-08-09 6:52:36 PM  

Fissile: phalamir: Fissile: How much more will decent Americans need to see before they realize the police today are nothing more than einsatz kommandos who will have to be opposed by armed force?

Could you enlighten the class as to the exact time of those four picoseconds that are not part of "today".  Because cops were formed as criminal gangs to enforce the illegal will of robber barons and haven't ever changed.  Putting a badge on a Zeta doesn't magically stop him from being a Zeta - especially when he was hired specifically to keep being a Zeta.

Now that I think of it, no, I can't think of a time in the US when the police were anything but an armed gang whose only purpose was to protect the owner class.  I defer to you on this matter.


Nope, pretty much.
Was thinking of good policing, pretty much only exists outside the US

WIll say when I was a kid, a cop would be proud of never having to fire his weapon on a 30y career
 
2020-08-09 6:53:27 PM  
it's a tale as old as time. Police don't want to be seen cracking down on peaceful protesters so they send in their thug buddies to do so they can basically ignore it till protesters start fighting back at which point they crack down on the protesters using their goons violence as a pretext. It's nothing new, or even all that clever.
 
2020-08-09 7:01:20 PM  

tfresh: nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

Ironic since people don't want to see cops carrying weapons. I come a gun toting part of the country and most Cops have no problem with people who open carry. They know the open carry people understand if they F up while carrying and it has anything to do with the weapon they have that they lose it, their ability to carry and go to prison.


Hopefully one day drones will snipe open carry, because it's illegal. Finely.
 
2020-08-09 7:03:32 PM  
If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough.
 
KIA
2020-08-09 7:05:55 PM  

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


Yeah.  People ought to be able to carry concealed without having to get permits and licenses.  That way you'll feel comfortable again.
 
2020-08-09 7:06:32 PM  
"If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough."

If you say something like this, you are probably a disingenuous ass that is deliberately misunderstanding what "defund the police" means.
 
KIA
2020-08-09 7:09:11 PM  

vgss: "My mother who was there today with a broken toe was walking a little bit slower because of her injury, and we were being chased by this angry mob of counter protesters. The (BLM) group was moving ahead and I heard behind me 'Oh we've got a straggler, she's with BLM' and people were screaming at her, getting in her face, calling her horrible names. I went back there and told them off and put my arm around her and walked her up. About a block later I realized I had lost her again, so I turned around to try and find her, and tried to walk through the crowd, and the crowd of angry protesters chasing us wouldn't let me pass. I told them 'my injured mother is back there and I need to get to her' and they started screaming 'Oh he needs his mommy, f*** off, and they wouldn't let me pass.""

This country is a tomb.

We are on a direct collision course with complete, societal collapse


Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.
 
KIA
2020-08-09 7:12:05 PM  

4th Horseman: "If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough."

If you say something like this, you are probably a disingenuous ass that is deliberately misunderstanding what "defund the police" means.


Oh, please explain out two apparently perfectly well understood words.

"Defund" - defund[ dee-fuhnd ]verb (used with object)
1) to withdraw financial support from, especially as an instrument of legislative control:
Many university programs were defunded by the recent government cutbacks.
2) to deplete the financial resources of:
The cost of the lawsuit defunded the company's operating budget.

"Police" - police[ puh-lees ] noun
Also called police force. an organized civil force for maintaining order, preventing and detecting crime, and enforcing the laws.
 
2020-08-09 7:13:22 PM  
If a bunch of bored, spoiled children came down my street chanting "fark the Police", and "Police are Motherfarkers" and "fark 12", I, too, would step outside and have a word with them.

I recommend anyone not familiar with the "speakers" at the rallies should watch a few of the videos - or check out the live broadcasts each evening on the "Woke" channel on the twitch.tv broadcast service.  The most common model is a young person with a megaphone screaming profanities and chastising white people for not doing enough for the movement.  Quite pitiful, and unwanted in any neighborhood.
 
2020-08-09 7:18:25 PM  
Wtf are we paying these bastards for? If it's legal for them to stand around with their thumbs in their asses while citizens are being assaulted, they are useless. If they don't want to put themselves in danger to protect the public, take their guns away and put them behind a desk, and cut their pay. Let people who have balls and integrity carry guns.
 
2020-08-09 7:20:16 PM  

Lee in Texas: legal for them to stand around with their thumbs in their asses


Yes.  It's legal.  The Supreme Court has already ruled that the police have no legal duty to protect you.
 
2020-08-09 7:20:52 PM  

MerelyFoolish: If a bunch of bored, spoiled children came down my street chanting "fark the Police", and "Police are Motherfarkers" and "fark 12", I, too, would step outside and have a word with them.

I recommend anyone not familiar with the "speakers" at the rallies should watch a few of the videos - or check out the live broadcasts each evening on the "Woke" channel on the twitch.tv broadcast service.  The most common model is a young person with a megaphone screaming profanities and chastising white people for not doing enough for the movement.  Quite pitiful, and unwanted in any neighborhood.


Do the naughty words hurt your fee fees?
 
2020-08-09 7:22:20 PM  

baka-san: MerelyFoolish: If a bunch of bored, spoiled children came down my street chanting "fark the Police", and "Police are Motherfarkers" and "fark 12", I, too, would step outside and have a word with them.

I recommend anyone not familiar with the "speakers" at the rallies should watch a few of the videos - or check out the live broadcasts each evening on the "Woke" channel on the twitch.tv broadcast service.  The most common model is a young person with a megaphone screaming profanities and chastising white people for not doing enough for the movement.  Quite pitiful, and unwanted in any neighborhood.

Do the naughty words hurt your fee fees?


Good job entirely missing the point.  Your name is appropriate.
 
2020-08-09 7:23:37 PM  

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


Open carry is pure intimidation and half a step from terrorism at the best of times
 
2020-08-09 7:26:05 PM  
One side in this confrontation thinks that Black Americans should be treated fairly and with respect. The other side disagrees with that. It's pretty easy for Americans of the non-asshole variety to pick a side here, and it ain't the side wearing camo and waving guns around.

As sad as it makes me to know that there are people this terrible still running around, it makes me much more sad to know that they think it is ok to gather and act so terrible in public. It is shameful. I am ashamed for my country.
 
2020-08-09 7:26:45 PM  

Hypnotic Harlequin: FTFA: "We were not allowed to exercise our first amendment right and nor was it protected by the people who swore an oath to protect that right," said Engageante Jackson, 23, who has been a leader at the Carson City BLM protests.

I like how Mr. Engageante has zero awareness that he is, in fact, claiming his first amendment rights were violated because the state did not violate the first amendment rights of people who disagree with him.

I have zero sympathy for BLM protesters who encounter violence from counter-protesters. BLM has made it clear that they support violent protests, and that they believe the ends justifies the means.  You want to use violence to make a point, you lose the right to complain when violence is used against you to make a point.  When you defend violent riots that inflict harm on innocent people as a just means to make your message heard, you can't be surprised to discover people hate and loathe you and wish to see you driven from their communities.


Just like this "peaceful protest" just outside of Seattle.

This video has the money quotes:
"We are peaceful! You pointed a gun at my face!"
"That's why you are peaceful."


Fark user image
 
2020-08-09 7:35:30 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough.


"Don't like that we break the law?  Fine we'll stop doing any work at all.  Oh, keep paying us, though."

There's only one way this line of reasoning ends, and you're not going to like it.  You should probably find a new argument.
 
2020-08-09 7:38:12 PM  
I'm not sure what is weirder about this: a library taking a position on BLM or a police chief so upset by their doing so that he withdraws police cover from the library. Or maybe it's anti-police protestors demanding that the police prevent other people from protesting.
 
2020-08-09 7:39:27 PM  

KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.


So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?
 
2020-08-09 7:39:46 PM  

waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?


Masters****
 
2020-08-09 7:41:02 PM  

KIA: vgss: "My mother who was there today with a broken toe was walking a little bit slower because of her injury, and we were being chased by this angry mob of counter protesters. The (BLM) group was moving ahead and I heard behind me 'Oh we've got a straggler, she's with BLM' and people were screaming at her, getting in her face, calling her horrible names. I went back there and told them off and put my arm around her and walked her up. About a block later I realized I had lost her again, so I turned around to try and find her, and tried to walk through the crowd, and the crowd of angry protesters chasing us wouldn't let me pass. I told them 'my injured mother is back there and I need to get to her' and they started screaming 'Oh he needs his mommy, f*** off, and they wouldn't let me pass.""

This country is a tomb.

We are on a direct collision course with complete, societal collapse

Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.


Those people just need to stop being so uppity and learn their place, right?
 
2020-08-09 7:41:30 PM  
No protection for terrorists.
 
2020-08-09 7:42:08 PM  

waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?


In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.
 
2020-08-09 7:43:21 PM  

joker420: No protection for terrorists.


You're against qualified immunity?
 
2020-08-09 7:44:19 PM  

OgreMagi: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.


Is that what you're scared of?
 
2020-08-09 7:44:49 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: If you say you want to disband/defund the police, you only look like a moran when you biatch because the police aren't doing enough.


Well no, quite the opposite.  Police aren't doing the work protecting and serving the community.  Property crimes?  Cops stopped worrying about them long ago.  Unless you're an employer in the city or important person.  Walking down the street while black?  Better shake them down to see if there's anything we can confiscate from them or hit them with fines or jail time.  Low or middle class?  Better keep that car up to date and don't give us a reason to notice you, citizen.  Sex crimes?  Jebus, who has time to even look at all those rape kits these days.  We're busy shaking down the streets and being hired out for security work.

We don't need Wannabe Supersoldiers armed head to toe in body armor and carrying multiple weapons showing up to answer calls about kids playing or issues with a suspected fake $20 bill.  We don't need to keep tolerating 1,000 dead a year from Qualified Immunity and billions in assets seized from innocent people due to asset forfeiture.  We don't need cops like Ferguson, who farmed their own community for fines.
 
2020-08-09 7:47:39 PM  

iron de havilland: OgreMagi: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.

Is that what you're scared of?


Are you stupid?
 
2020-08-09 7:51:49 PM  

OgreMagi: iron de havilland: OgreMagi: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.

Is that what you're scared of?

Are you stupid?


I am talking to you, so, well.
 
2020-08-09 7:52:23 PM  

MerelyFoolish: If a bunch of bored, spoiled children came down my street chanting "fark the Police", and "Police are Motherfarkers" and "fark 12", I, too, would step outside and have a word with them.

I recommend anyone not familiar with the "speakers" at the rallies should watch a few of the videos - or check out the live broadcasts each evening on the "Woke" channel on the twitch.tv broadcast service.  The most common model is a young person with a megaphone screaming profanities and chastising white people for not doing enough for the movement.  Quite pitiful, and unwanted in any neighborhood.


You are part of the problem. Apparently.
 
2020-08-09 7:52:32 PM  
My dad was there. I think he just finally realized why people are protesting--it was very academic to him before, even if he supported it. He even agreed with me that the problem with Republicans is evil, not just 'poor misunderstood babies'.

I don't think he understands yet that he got screamed at in large part because he's a black Hispanic guy. He thinks he's 'culturally white'. But he got a few concepts through his skull, which is kind of amazing.

/he didn't get punched because he's a 300-lb adult, but he still got a fair amount of shiat
 
KIA
2020-08-09 7:54:18 PM  

waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?


Nobody understands how you link these things together.
 
2020-08-09 7:54:38 PM  

anuran: nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol.  If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.

Open carry is pure intimidation and half a step from terrorism at the best of times


On the rare occasions I encounter it, my first thought is "sucker punch in the back of the neck and take the gun"

Kind of like gun stickers on a car "I know the car I would brake into"
 
2020-08-09 7:55:38 PM  

nvmac: Open carry freaks me out.  I see these morons all the time, and just can't figure out what their point is.  I just can't imagine it's anything other than a phallic symbol. If I were a cop, I wouldn't want to see anyone with a holstered firearm in public.

And obviously, these protesters weren't being protected by the deputies at all, since Carson City got involved.  I mean, how does that even work?  Carson SWAT and mounted posse is called in, THEN Douglas shows up?

Something's not right.


See the bolded part? That's a decidedly you thing. Perhaps rub one out and get cocks off your brain a few minutes?

The point of open carry is, in fact, exactly the point of BLM protests: the exercise of individual constitutional rights.
 
2020-08-09 7:55:47 PM  

KIA: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

Nobody understands how you link these things together.


It was a question. I asked it because of feels expressed in someone's comment.
This isn't complicated.
🙄

I'm trying to see where people minds are at.
 
2020-08-09 8:02:17 PM  
I'm just going to say that the vast majority of cops (muni, county and up) I worked with when I was a PI were smart and genuinely hard working men an women of both races. Missing and exploited people were a part of my work, and I hate seeing those that helped being shoehorned into what people are saying they ALL are. When I first heard of a supposedly disabled man put his hands
around his wife's neck, the Sheriff and CHP made sure she went somewhere safe.

That was 5 years ago. I don't know if/when everything changed to those (mostly) women being monsters.
 
2020-08-09 8:05:20 PM  

OgreMagi: waxbeans: KIA: Or - and I know this will blow your mind - most of America is perfectly capable of respecting Black Lives but think Antifa is horrible, looting is unlawful, and trying to start protests which can be built up to looting where there aren't any black people is, at best, ridiculous grandstanding and entirely unnecessary and at worst intentional criminality.

So was it wrong for slaves to sink ships in the Atlantic?
Was it wrong for Haitian slaves to kill their slave?

In the uprising in Haiti, they didn't just kill the slave owners.  They killed all white people indiscriminately.


Did they buy their records first?
 
2020-08-09 8:05:30 PM  
I just realised what's was saying was time def. So, sorry.
 
2020-08-09 8:05:58 PM  

nicoffeine: I just realised what's was saying was time def. So, sorry.


Tone, even.
 
2020-08-09 8:10:58 PM  

orbister: I'm not sure what is weirder about this: a library taking a position on BLM or a police chief so upset by their doing so that he withdraws police cover from the library. Or maybe it's anti-police protestors demanding that the police prevent other people from protesting physically assaulting them.


Fixed, for your disingenuous ass.
 
2020-08-09 8:12:47 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: The sad part is that this could be true, but the press has lost all credibility.


Second time this week I've had cause to say, "Shut up, Sean."
 
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