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(Mediaite)   CNN has used yesterday's events to determine that all we need to do to get Trump to run away is present him with facts   (mediaite.com) divider line
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2020-08-09 10:06:35 AM  
Suspicions Confirmed: Truth is Kryptonite to Trump*
 
2020-08-09 10:38:50 AM  

snocone: Suspicions Confirmed: Truth is Kryptonite to Trump*


No wonder he ran as a Republican.  No danger of running into truth there.
 
2020-08-09 10:52:28 AM  
I dunno why it took people so long to ask him this
 
2020-08-09 10:55:08 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: I dunno why it took people so long to ask him this


No kidding.  The first time it might have been something that they didn't want to call so they could fast check.  But the 2nd - 150th times it should have been thrown back at him.
 
2020-08-09 10:59:59 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: I dunno why it took people so long to ask him this


Most reporters suck and can't think on their feet.
 
2020-08-09 11:01:04 AM  
Brave Sir Donald
 
2020-08-09 11:28:14 AM  
Had reporters been doing their jobs and instantly calling him out on shiat like this from Day 1 in office, he would have stoked out after the first six months.
 
2020-08-09 11:28:45 AM  

markie_farkie: Had reporters been doing their jobs and instantly calling him out on shiat like this from Day 1 in office, he would have stoked out after the first six months.


Hell, since day 1 in 2015
 
2020-08-09 11:34:51 AM  

markie_farkie: Had reporters been doing their jobs and instantly calling him out on shiat like this from Day 1 in office, he would have stoked out after the first six months.


All guilty.
 
2020-08-09 11:36:12 AM  
If I were a reporter, my biggest problem would be is how would I keep myself from calling Trump a criminal douche bag as I asked him a question.   I don't know how they do it.
 
2020-08-09 11:42:48 AM  

PaulRB: If I were a reporter, my biggest problem would be is how would I keep myself from calling Trump a criminal douche bag as I asked him a question.   I don't know how they do it.


You've seen on TV and in the movies where someone fakes out a lie detector test by poking themselves with a needle as they are hearing and answering the questions because it helps them focus on the pain and not the lie?

You don't want to see the puncture wounds on the White House correspondents legs.
 
2020-08-09 11:58:45 AM  

BizarreMan: You don't want to see the puncture wounds on the White House correspondents legs.


Don't kink shame.
 
2020-08-09 12:15:49 PM  

BizarreMan: PaulRB: If I were a reporter, my biggest problem would be is how would I keep myself from calling Trump a criminal douche bag as I asked him a question.   I don't know how they do it.

You've seen on TV and in the movies where someone fakes out a lie detector test by poking themselves with a needle as they are hearing and answering the questions because it helps them focus on the pain and not the lie?

You don't want to see the puncture wounds on the White House correspondents legs.


Polygraph machines only work if you believe that they work. They are in no way a "lie detector". They are a range of scientific and pseudoscientific measurements that can, allegedly, differentiate between truth and lies. They are as much as a lie detector as a rotten orange is a lie detector.
 
2020-08-09 12:29:50 PM  
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2020-08-09 12:32:57 PM  

iheartscotch: BizarreMan: PaulRB: If I were a reporter, my biggest problem would be is how would I keep myself from calling Trump a criminal douche bag as I asked him a question.   I don't know how they do it.

You've seen on TV and in the movies where someone fakes out a lie detector test by poking themselves with a needle as they are hearing and answering the questions because it helps them focus on the pain and not the lie?

You don't want to see the puncture wounds on the White House correspondents legs.

Polygraph machines only work if you believe that they work. They are in no way a "lie detector". They are a range of scientific and pseudoscientific measurements that can, allegedly, differentiate between truth and lies. They are as much as a lie detector as a rotten orange is a lie detector.


Joke all you want but if you cheat on it the rotten orange will know.

They always know.
 
2020-08-09 1:13:27 PM  
That only took 3½ years.
 
2020-08-09 1:15:27 PM  
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2020-08-09 1:15:54 PM  
Don't farking call him sir. fark candor. Yelling YOU LIE should be the go to.
 
2020-08-09 1:17:56 PM  
Is that barrier wall still up around the White House?
 
2020-08-09 1:18:12 PM  
Two things;
One, a woman asked the question
Two, she did it in front of his country club members.
There was a hot mic moment from before the presser where he warned his buddies that they'll see what has to "put up with".
In my opinion he was running away more because she dared to "attack" him in front of his cronies more than the actual question.
 
2020-08-09 1:20:29 PM  
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2020-08-09 1:20:39 PM  
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Ka-chow!
 
2020-08-09 1:20:44 PM  
The REAL reason...
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Bonus...
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2020-08-09 1:21:28 PM  
The source of the question is what surprised me. CBS isn't exactly known as the most liberal, critical, or aggressive news outlet. I really hope this emboldens some of the other members of the pool who have been walking the tightrope.

He can't ban them all. Trump's ego needs a room full of reporters more than they need his pressers.
 
2020-08-09 1:21:32 PM  
I think "run" is a bit generous.

Dotard complained on day one about how far he had to walk in the White House to get to meetings.

Plus, video of his golf cart rides.

Cannot even walk down an incline.

/he's an old fat out of shape piece of shiat
//not sure how he's even still alive
 
2020-08-09 1:21:36 PM  
Which is what we've been saying on fark for 4 years... goddamn cowardly ''journalists'' not doing their job. If they had called him on his BS from day one, he would have been impeached a long time ago.
 
2020-08-09 1:21:48 PM  
Rarely is the question asked: Is our medias learning?
 
2020-08-09 1:22:05 PM  

PaulRB: cameroncrazy1984: I dunno why it took people so long to ask him this

Most reporters suck and can't think on their feet.


Most reporters are men, or at least male, and certainly cowards.
 
2020-08-09 1:22:17 PM  
Would venmo money to the first reporter to ask him "Why are you such a lying piece of shiat?"
 
2020-08-09 1:22:41 PM  

detonator: Two things;
One, a woman asked the question
Two, she did it in front of his country club members.
There was a hot mic moment from before the presser where he warned his buddies that they'll see what has to "put up with".
In my opinion he was running away more because she dared to "attack" him in front of his cronies more than the actual question.


Meant to add that the only truth Trump knows is his distorted view of reality. While he obviously lies, he BELIEVES that the only truth that matters is what he comes up with.
 
2020-08-09 1:22:45 PM  

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Ka-chow!


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2020-08-09 1:22:52 PM  
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2020-08-09 1:23:04 PM  
It's almost like journalists have an important job or something, and that job isn't "Help the president by asking him easy questions to allow him to lie while stroking himself and using flattering words and tone to encourage everyone to defer to him as if he is not to be seriously questioned."
 
2020-08-09 1:24:32 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I dunno why it took people so long to ask him this


Cowardice.
 
2020-08-09 1:24:51 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: [Fark user image image 570x622]

Ka-chow!


Paula stomps his tinyness regularly! She good!
 
2020-08-09 1:25:54 PM  
FTFA: That was kind of a historic fact check moment because I don't think anyone had ever challenged Trump on this lie he keeps telling over and over, and it was revealing that, you know, when presented with the facts, he just ran away.


<screaming>
 
2020-08-09 1:26:26 PM  
Trump is the world's most successful troll. Facts are irrelevant.
 
2020-08-09 1:26:27 PM  
Dumpy Trumpy puddin' and pie
Bashed the press and told them lies
When the truth came out today
Dumpy Trumpy ran away
 
2020-08-09 1:28:11 PM  
Some facts:

In 2017, Trump signed a bill that eliminated the program's expiration date and twice signed legislation (in August and December) that authorized funding to keep the program afloat.

Trump also has used executive orders to advance veterans-specific policies, including one aimed at increasing accountability at the VA and adding protections for whistleblowers. Another extends mental health coverage to all veterans during the first-year transition back to civilian life.

Update, July 6: On June 6, Trump signed the VA MISSION Act of 2018, a bipartisan bill that calls for a number of changes at the VA. The new law continues the Veterans Choice Programfor a year, but then replaces it with the Veterans Community Care Program.

The new program expands the criteria for those who seek care outside of the VA health care system. For example, it allows a veteran to go to a private provider if the "covered veteran and the covered veteran's referring clinician agree that furnishing care and services through a non-Department entity or provider would be in the best medical interest of the covered veteran."

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that "in the early years of the program, roughly 640,000 additional veteran patients would be referred out to community care each year." The law also requires the VA to provide veterans access to walk-in care from non-VA providers; the veterans may be required to pay copayments, as determined by the VA.
 
2020-08-09 1:30:42 PM  
A journalist's job is not to treat the President "nicely" or "fairly".

The President's job is not to complain tirelessly about that.
 
2020-08-09 1:31:25 PM  

fernt: Some facts:

In 2017, Trump signed a bill that eliminated the program's expiration date and twice signed legislation (in August and December) that authorized funding to keep the program afloat.

Trump also has used executive orders to advance veterans-specific policies, including one aimed at increasing accountability at the VA and adding protections for whistleblowers. Another extends mental health coverage to all veterans during the first-year transition back to civilian life.

Update, July 6: On June 6, Trump signed the VA MISSION Act of 2018, a bipartisan bill that calls for a number of changes at the VA. The new law continues the Veterans Choice Programfor a year, but then replaces it with the Veterans Community Care Program.

The new program expands the criteria for those who seek care outside of the VA health care system. For example, it allows a veteran to go to a private provider if the "covered veteran and the covered veteran's referring clinician agree that furnishing care and services through a non-Department entity or provider would be in the best medical interest of the covered veteran."

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that "in the early years of the program, roughly 640,000 additional veteran patients would be referred out to community care each year." The law also requires the VA to provide veterans access to walk-in care from non-VA providers; the veterans may be required to pay copayments, as determined by the VA.


which isnt "i passed VA choice choice no one could do anything for 50 years."
 
2020-08-09 1:31:49 PM  
I would like to congratulate the US news media on waiting until Trump has burned the country to the ground, fumbled a pandemic response, and positioned the GOP to either steal the next election outright or attempt to start a civil war when they lose before doing the fact checking that they should have been doing five years ago. Bang up job, you farking cowards!
 
2020-08-09 1:31:59 PM  

thehobbes: fernt: Some facts:

In 2017, Trump signed a bill that eliminated the program's expiration date and twice signed legislation (in August and December) that authorized funding to keep the program afloat.

Trump also has used executive orders to advance veterans-specific policies, including one aimed at increasing accountability at the VA and adding protections for whistleblowers. Another extends mental health coverage to all veterans during the first-year transition back to civilian life.

Update, July 6: On June 6, Trump signed the VA MISSION Act of 2018, a bipartisan bill that calls for a number of changes at the VA. The new law continues the Veterans Choice Programfor a year, but then replaces it with the Veterans Community Care Program.

The new program expands the criteria for those who seek care outside of the VA health care system. For example, it allows a veteran to go to a private provider if the "covered veteran and the covered veteran's referring clinician agree that furnishing care and services through a non-Department entity or provider would be in the best medical interest of the covered veteran."

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that "in the early years of the program, roughly 640,000 additional veteran patients would be referred out to community care each year." The law also requires the VA to provide veterans access to walk-in care from non-VA providers; the veterans may be required to pay copayments, as determined by the VA.

which isnt "i passed VA choice choice no one could do anything for 50 years."


alright. I hate my phone.
 
2020-08-09 1:36:32 PM  

fernt: Trump also has used executive orders to advance veterans-specific policies, including one aimed at increasing accountability at the VA and adding protections for whistleblowers. Another extends mental health coverage to all veterans during the first-year transition back to civilian life.


And that's fantastic. But the President routinely lies about his accomplishments. How do you square that?

Look. Let me be completely frank with you, fernt.

I can understand people voting for Trump because he they think he is the best choice for President in a field of potential candidates. It's as sad as Fark realization. But, well, here we are.

But I have a real problem with anyone who thinks that Trump is a decent person and a solid character. Truly, he is probably one of the worst humans mankind has squirted out. (Yeah. Even. Hitler. We're there now.)
 
2020-08-09 1:37:27 PM  
I see the poster child for confirmation bias has entered the conversation...
 
2020-08-09 1:38:27 PM  

fernt: Some facts:

In 2017, Trump signed a bill that eliminated the program's expiration date and twice signed legislation (in August and December) that authorized funding to keep the program afloat.

Trump also has used executive orders to advance veterans-specific policies, including one aimed at increasing accountability at the VA and adding protections for whistleblowers. Another extends mental health coverage to all veterans during the first-year transition back to civilian life.

Update, July 6: On June 6, Trump signed the VA MISSION Act of 2018, a bipartisan bill that calls for a number of changes at the VA. The new law continues the Veterans Choice Programfor a year, but then replaces it with the Veterans Community Care Program.

The new program expands the criteria for those who seek care outside of the VA health care system. For example, it allows a veteran to go to a private provider if the "covered veteran and the covered veteran's referring clinician agree that furnishing care and services through a non-Department entity or provider would be in the best medical interest of the covered veteran."

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that "in the early years of the program, roughly 640,000 additional veteran patients would be referred out to community care each year." The law also requires the VA to provide veterans access to walk-in care from non-VA providers; the veterans may be required to pay copayments, as determined by the VA.


Some other facts...

"We just passed Choice," Trump said. "That was 44 years, they've been trying to pass Choice. So that if you have to wait for nine days, 30 days, 21 days, months, you don't do that anymore. If the line is big, and you're unhappy, you go to a private doctor, they take care of you and we pay the bill."

Trump repeated the point, saying, "They've been trying to pass that one for many, many decades. They couldn't do it. We got it passed. We're good at passing things, right?"

Trump is wrong that Choice wasn't passed until he came into office.

Congress passed a new version of a Choice program in June 2018 - but the program itself has been around since 2014.


Stop being so half-assed.
 
2020-08-09 1:39:07 PM  

fernt: Some facts:

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttt


OK

So what?

Got anything actually, you know....relevant?
 
2020-08-09 1:42:39 PM  
Back to the Bunker!
 
2020-08-09 1:44:11 PM  

scanman61: fernt: Some facts:

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttt

OK

So what?

Got anything actually, you know....relevant?


Oh, that was totally relevant--it absolutely proved that Trump has lied about this, repeatedly.

Perfectly on point, and absolutely determinative of guilt.
 
2020-08-09 1:44:26 PM  
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