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2020-08-09 9:10:39 AM  
Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.
 
2020-08-09 9:26:32 AM  

Private_Citizen: Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.


I think the point is someone is going to take a run at that.

Gee, how IS the dollar doing anyway?
 
2020-08-09 10:10:46 AM  

edmo: how IS the dollar doing anyway?


Who cares?  No one uses dollars anymore.  It's either credit cards or Apple Pay or one of the many Paypal/Venmo/Zelle options.  Even if you do carry some, it's all twenties because of those automated ATM machines.  With strip clubs closed, dollars have no use.
 
2020-08-09 10:24:59 AM  

edmo: Gee, how IS the dollar doing anyway?


When I moved to Israel many years ago, one dollar got you five shekels. Today, it gets you 3.5 shekels.

And the upcoming political instability and tension is not going to help the dollar.
 
2020-08-09 10:46:47 AM  
That's not the only threat out there.  The EU exchange that was a direct response to Trump's Iran madness isn't limited to trading with just Iran.
 
2020-08-09 10:47:37 AM  
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2020-08-09 11:54:58 AM  

Private_Citizen: Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.


Try to pay in dollars in any shop in the EU, and you'll get laught of of here like the rube you are.
 
2020-08-09 12:01:49 PM  

padraig: Try to pay in dollars in any shop in the EU, and you'll get laught of of here like the rube you are.


When I lived in London in summer 2001 for a study abroad internship, I worked nights as a bartender at a pub. I was only 20, so it was a fun time -- especially going out afterwards with the other staff after we closed at 11pm.

You'd be surprised -- or not -- at how many American tourists asked if they could pay in dollars (cash, not card). It was enough to make that half-American kid grumble, "Stupid American tourists."

But it was compensated by the fact that I'd get tips from American tourists -- and only American tourists. So I loved them. My salary was the equivalent today of seven pounds an hour before the few tips I got.

(Related story: Try paying in euros today in any of the few European countries that do not use the euro. Same thing.)
 
2020-08-09 12:01:58 PM  

Private_Citizen: Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.


Yeah you just keep pushing that "US dollars are accepted muchmore widely than are rubles or the yuan, in the United States of America" canard...
 
2020-08-09 12:02:00 PM  
Everyone always thought it would be a financial bankruptcy that ruined our standing with the world, but it ended up being an intellectual one.
 
2020-08-09 12:02:29 PM  

Private_Citizen: Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.


Most of Europe, your Dollar isn't any more useful than a 50-Euro note is in an Ames, Iowa Kum & Go.  Most of Africa, a Euro is just as useful as a Dollar.  What is universal?  Well, Visa.

If the world really needed a non-Dollar world currency, Visa could introduce a Mondero. No paper, no coins, just a synthetic unit based on a whole market basket of world currencies they have to deal with anyway, maybe a little Gold/bitcoin/corporate bonds in the mix.  With a better exchange rate than between existing currencies if you do your transactions in it.
 
2020-08-09 12:03:11 PM  
Oh dear, which should I convert to?  Rubles or yuan?

right
 
2020-08-09 12:22:09 PM  
We still selling out treasuries at super low rates with a good amount selling to foreigners?
 
2020-08-09 12:22:20 PM  
Sounds like Russia and China are making a new Warsaw Pact, isolating themselves from the rest of the world.
 
2020-08-09 12:28:39 PM  
The dollar is already doomed. Our debt is approaching 150% of GDP.

1.Effectively that means the Federal Reserve can never raise interest rates above 0% again, which is the primary way a nation changes its currency value.

2. There's a perverse incentive to inflate the currency to pay the astronomical interest and still maintain the economy, when combined with (1), which itself causes inflation due to cheaper dollars; people will borrow money to repay the debt with inflated dollars, adding still more dollars to the economy.

C. Either they play like Greece and devote the economy entirely to the deficit, resulting in 70% unemployment and everyone going back to sustenance farming because there are no actual jobs anymore in any other industry, they inflate the debt away by going Zimbabwe, or we just decide to default. If any of these three options are taken, the US dollar will no longer be taken seriously as the world's reserve currency. Everyone will sell US bonds and try to exchange their dollars back for their local currency. This leads to no market for u.s. debt because there's already too much in the market, and 10 times as many dollars in circulation as every other country dumps their dollars, resulting in all three of the above happening anyway.

Without a truly Titanic tax hike in the next 4 years, there will not be an American economy in 20.
 
2020-08-09 12:42:00 PM  

bostonguy: edmo: Gee, how IS the dollar doing anyway?

When I moved to Israel many years ago, one dollar got you five shekels. Today, it gets you 3.5 shekels.

And the upcoming political instability and tension is not going to help the dollar.


"We're supposed to haggle."

"Now, are you telling me that's not worth twenty shekels?"
 
2020-08-09 12:45:04 PM  

Sim Tree: The dollar is already doomed. Our debt is approaching 150% of GDP.

1.Effectively that means the Federal Reserve can never raise interest rates above 0% again, which is the primary way a nation changes its currency value.

2. There's a perverse incentive to inflate the currency to pay the astronomical interest and still maintain the economy, when combined with (1), which itself causes inflation due to cheaper dollars; people will borrow money to repay the debt with inflated dollars, adding still more dollars to the economy.

C. Either they play like Greece and devote the economy entirely to the deficit, resulting in 70% unemployment and everyone going back to sustenance farming because there are no actual jobs anymore in any other industry, they inflate the debt away by going Zimbabwe, or we just decide to default. If any of these three options are taken, the US dollar will no longer be taken seriously as the world's reserve currency. Everyone will sell US bonds and try to exchange their dollars back for their local currency. This leads to no market for u.s. debt because there's already too much in the market, and 10 times as many dollars in circulation as every other country dumps their dollars, resulting in all three of the above happening anyway.

Without a truly Titanic tax hike in the next 4 years, there will not be an American economy in 20.


Same time, said debt will not allow other countries to devalue the dollar. We kinda owe em. And a debtor who can't pay is a debtor that just took your investment.

There's always doom and gloom about devaluing the dollar. But for the most part US is a pretty stable bet compared to communist countries or one with the thin veneer of democracy. You just have to look at the pissing contest that just happened between Saudi Arabia and Russia.

We have diversified goods and trade. Hell we are pretty much the bread basket of the world.


Central America and Canada still love the dollar. For all these stories in this thread,  Yeah, complete idiocy to go to the UK or EU and not exchange for the local currency.
 
2020-08-09 12:52:22 PM  

bostonguy: You'd be surprised -- or not -- at how many American tourists asked if they could pay in dollars (cash, not card). It was enough to make that half-American kid grumble, "Stupid American tourists."

But it was compensated by the fact that I'd get tips from American tourists -- and only American tourists. So I loved them.


Now pretend you're 80% of the world for fifty years after WWII and you've basically explained American foreign policy.

"HOWDY Y'ALL, MIGHTY FINE PLACE Y'ALL HEATHEN FURRINERS GOT HERE, MIND IF WE PARK SOME MISSILES ON IT? 'COURSE YA DON'T! JOHNNY! BRING THEM MISSILES ON OVER!"

"Now listen here, you--"

"NOW HERE'S A LITTLE SOMETHIN' FOR YOUR TROUBLES, I AIN'T GOT NONE A YER FUNNY MONEY BUT THESE HERE GREENBACKS SPEND REAL NICE. JOHNNY! GET OFF YOUR ASS AND SET UP THEM MISSILES! SO HELP ME BOY IF I HAVE TO COME DOWN THERE AND TAN YOUR ASS YOU WON'T SIT FOR A WEEK."
 
2020-08-09 12:57:39 PM  
I've been worried about Trump devaluing the dollar for dome time, it would please his master very much.
 
2020-08-09 1:00:01 PM  
The game has changed - it just hasn't "taken" fully, yet.
Now, any government that can make a reasonably sound promise of future productivity can print money.
More and more, that money is going to be good, whatever language is printed on it.
 
2020-08-09 1:01:07 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Sim Tree: The dollar is already doomed. Our debt is approaching 150% of GDP.

1.Effectively that means the Federal Reserve can never raise interest rates above 0% again, which is the primary way a nation changes its currency value.

2. There's a perverse incentive to inflate the currency to pay the astronomical interest and still maintain the economy, when combined with (1), which itself causes inflation due to cheaper dollars; people will borrow money to repay the debt with inflated dollars, adding still more dollars to the economy.

C. Either they play like Greece and devote the economy entirely to the deficit, resulting in 70% unemployment and everyone going back to sustenance farming because there are no actual jobs anymore in any other industry, they inflate the debt away by going Zimbabwe, or we just decide to default. If any of these three options are taken, the US dollar will no longer be taken seriously as the world's reserve currency. Everyone will sell US bonds and try to exchange their dollars back for their local currency. This leads to no market for u.s. debt because there's already too much in the market, and 10 times as many dollars in circulation as every other country dumps their dollars, resulting in all three of the above happening anyway.

Without a truly Titanic tax hike in the next 4 years, there will not be an American economy in 20.

Same time, said debt will not allow other countries to devalue the dollar. We kinda owe em. And a debtor who can't pay is a debtor that just took your investment.

There's always doom and gloom about devaluing the dollar. But for the most part US is a pretty stable bet compared to communist countries or one with the thin veneer of democracy. You just have to look at the pissing contest that just happened between Saudi Arabia and Russia.

We have diversified goods and trade. Hell we are pretty much the bread basket of the world.


Central America and Canada still love the dollar. For all these stories in this thr ...


There is a dichotomy between the rich and the government.  They government does not creat a tax to suck all those dollars back and the rich do not spend their dollars.

The end result is that the workers scramble to obtain dollars to pay for goods needed to survive.

As long as dollars do not go to those who will spend them, there will never be any inflation.  In fact, due to corona, deflation is what is happening.
 
2020-08-09 1:02:49 PM  

Dr.Fey: edmo: how IS the dollar doing anyway?

Who cares?  No one uses dollars anymore.  It's either credit cards or Apple Pay or one of the many Paypal/Venmo/Zelle options.  Even if you do carry some, it's all twenties because of those automated ATM machines.  With strip clubs closed, dollars have no use.


In Texas, strip clubs have turned into "restaurants" and are open for "business ".
 
2020-08-09 1:02:54 PM  

basemetal: I've been worried about Trump devaluing the dollar for dome time, it would please his master very much.


If Trump devalues the dollar and he has cash in other currencies, it will be much easier for him to pay off his dollar-denominated debt.
 
2020-08-09 1:25:13 PM  
I'm not saying that the US is competently managing their economy.

But who is going to put their money into a framework managed by China and Russia.

Seriously, get me their names.  I have some bridges to sell.
 
2020-08-09 1:27:57 PM  

bostonguy: If Trump devalues the dollar and he has cash in other currencies, it will be much easier for him to pay off his dollar-denominated debt.


You're not wrong, but since when does Trump pay off debts?

I'm not trying to be snarky here. I know the various Russian oligarchs who have him by the shortest of hairs financially are not the same thing as the bricklayers he stiffs for the fun of it.

But the dude has a life expectancy of mmmmmmaybe five years at this point, and perhaps two where he's got enough of his brain left to recognize his name in ten-foot-high gold letters on a building.

If the worst should happen -- he lives long enough as an ex-president to see Putin's bagmen call in their markers via Deutsche Bank and god knows what else -- he can just blame it on Don Jr. and Eric, "two low-energy loser sons who frankly I barely knew and only put in charge of my business as a favor to their mother." He's going to rot away in the nicest death-room any of us will ever see no matter what.

I'm not saying he won't continue to try to weaken the dollar, and I'm not saying Putin telling him to wouldn't be reason enough for him. But debt, eh, for him that's just a way of keeping score of who's dumb enough to give you money.
 
2020-08-09 1:47:49 PM  

FleshMonkey: I'm not saying that the US is competently managing their economy.

But who is going to put their money into a framework managed by China and Russia.

Seriously, get me their names.  I have some bridges to sell.


An African country that receives foreign aid from China to build a dam and uses the irrigation to farm crops it sells in exchange for Russian air defense systems?
 
2020-08-09 2:07:04 PM  

SoundOfOneHandWanking: Oh dear, which should I convert to?  Rubles or yuan?

right


After the upcoming civil war you will have to pic yuan or the other .
 
2020-08-09 2:07:20 PM  

Private_Citizen: Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.


NTNOCN: "American Express" (1980)
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2020-08-09 2:14:16 PM  

bostonguy: Related story: Try paying in euros today in any of the few European countries that do not use the euro. Same thing.


Not sure if they've changed in recent years, but leave it to the Swiss to readily make this accommodation.  Restaurants and bars would take euros based on that day's exchange rate and give change in Francs.

/I always asked first, but if it meant I spent my money there, they were always cool about it
//I miss the Alps
 
2020-08-09 2:17:35 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: FleshMonkey: I'm not saying that the US is competently managing their economy.

But who is going to put their money into a framework managed by China and Russia.

Seriously, get me their names.  I have some bridges to sell.

An African country that receives foreign aid from China to build a dam and uses the irrigation to farm crops it sells in exchange for Russian air defense systems?


It is never foreign aid. China does loans. And they make you mortgage something else they really want to secure the loan. Then that loan is used to pay Chinese contractors, and you hope that they aren't sabotaging it to force a default.

You aren't using the money from cash crops to buy Russian military toys. You are using it to try to pay off the loan. Several countries have found that out so far. They are getting a shiny new seaport in Kenya due to a default like that.
 
2020-08-09 2:30:54 PM  
Ah, so Xi's Second Long March starts with bringing Russia back into the fold as a Chinese client state. That will give Xi direct access to Europe and a great deal of mineral wealth locked up in Siberia. Putin has publicly extolled the Tsars, and they came to power as part of the Muscovite aristocracy after the Mongols razed Kyiv and needed some local stooges to run the new conquest for them.

War with India, buy out Russia. Not a bad start to reclaiming what they now teach is all descended from a shared global Chinese culture going back to before the days of Sumeria. Get whatever is left of India's billion people after conquest, put them to work in underpopulated Siberia where they need labor, the rest of the game is easy mode after that.
 
2020-08-09 2:42:59 PM  

BolloxReader: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: FleshMonkey: I'm not saying that the US is competently managing their economy.

But who is going to put their money into a framework managed by China and Russia.

Seriously, get me their names.  I have some bridges to sell.

An African country that receives foreign aid from China to build a dam and uses the irrigation to farm crops it sells in exchange for Russian air defense systems?

It is never foreign aid. China does loans. And they make you mortgage something else they really want to secure the loan. Then that loan is used to pay Chinese contractors, and you hope that they aren't sabotaging it to force a default.

You aren't using the money from cash crops to buy Russian military toys. You are using it to try to pay off the loan. Several countries have found that out so far. They are getting a shiny new seaport in Kenya due to a default like that.


Cameroon did just that, getting Chinese aid to build the Memve'ele Dam and are currently in the process of buying the Pantsir-S1 air defense system from Russia. It's hard to say something doesn't happen when we have a real world example of it happening.
 
2020-08-09 2:45:33 PM  
welp most country run a deficit with china yet don't take their money... that's a really dumb own goal cuz not having to transfer tru usd they would save the exchange cost (idk 2-3%) both ways

(so make more money on export / pay less money for import)
 
2020-08-09 3:09:07 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Cameroon did just that, getting Chinese aid to build the Memve'ele Dam and are currently in the process of buying the Pantsir-S1 air defense system from Russia. It's hard to say something doesn't happen when we have a real world example of it happening.


Maybe you should do a little more research.

FTFA: In 2017, the Cameroonian government contracted a debt of nearly €371 million with Exim Bank of China to finance part of the dam. The African Development Bank has invested just over 171 million euros. The remaining €99 million was provided by the Cameroonian side. All these investments bring the cost of the project to more than 640 million euros.
 
2020-08-09 3:25:03 PM  

Private_Citizen: Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.


I can't walk into a store in Europe, Africa, South America, or Canada. I'm an American, and they won't let me in.
 
2020-08-09 5:36:39 PM  
Next two weeks? No.

Next two years? Very much so...
 
2020-08-09 6:02:23 PM  

FleshMonkey: I'm not saying that the US is competently managing their economy.

But who is going to put their money into a framework managed by China and Russia.

Seriously, get me their names.  I have some bridges to sell.


I hope a lot of people on Fark enjoy their borscht cold.
 
2020-08-09 6:19:11 PM  

Myria: Sounds like Russia and China are making a new Warsaw Pact, isolating themselves from the rest of the world.


Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS
 
2020-08-09 6:28:54 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Dr.Fey: edmo: how IS the dollar doing anyway?

Who cares?  No one uses dollars anymore.  It's either credit cards or Apple Pay or one of the many Paypal/Venmo/Zelle options.  Even if you do carry some, it's all twenties because of those automated ATM machines.  With strip clubs closed, dollars have no use.

In Texas, strip clubs have turned into "restaurants" and are open for "business ".




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2020-08-09 7:09:01 PM  

Bukharin: Myria: Sounds like Russia and China are making a new Warsaw Pact, isolating themselves from the rest of the world.

Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS


Thank god ive married an Indian like the quisling I am
 
2020-08-09 8:04:04 PM  

NEDM: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Cameroon did just that, getting Chinese aid to build the Memve'ele Dam and are currently in the process of buying the Pantsir-S1 air defense system from Russia. It's hard to say something doesn't happen when we have a real world example of it happening.

Maybe you should do a little more research.

FTFA: In 2017, the Cameroonian government contracted a debt of nearly €371 million with Exim Bank of China to finance part of the dam. The African Development Bank has invested just over 171 million euros. The remaining €99 million was provided by the Cameroonian side. All these investments bring the cost of the project to more than 640 million euros.


I never denied that loans were part of the aid that China gave out. Did they get aid? Yes. Are they buying an air defense system from Russia? You said the 2nd part would never happen.
 
2020-08-09 9:43:22 PM  
If anything is doomed by this, I'd say it's probably the ruble.  China's economy is four times Russia's, and I doubt it would even be balanced out by including Russia's "Eurasian Economic Union" of Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
 
2020-08-09 10:10:10 PM  
This isn't the end of the world for the dollar, but it is a sign of declining influence. I recall a recent Bloomberg article stating that 60% of international transactions are cleared in USD, down from 80% at the start of the millennium.

Simply put: In the 1950s, America was 5% of the world's population and 40% of its GDP. Now its closer to 3% and 20%. The rest of the world is catching up economically, with China and India basically guaranteed to surpass us at some point in my lifetime based solely on the size of their population, and everything will eventually have to stop revolving around America. I expect American Exceptionalists to live in denial of this fact until long after it becomes evident and then moan, cry, complain, and point fingers for the rest of human history thereafter.
 
2020-08-09 11:27:14 PM  

BolloxReader: Ah, so Xi's Second Long March starts with bringing Russia back into the fold as a Chinese client state. That will give Xi direct access to Europe and a great deal of mineral wealth locked up in Siberia. Putin has publicly extolled the Tsars, and they came to power as part of the Muscovite aristocracy after the Mongols razed Kyiv and needed some local stooges to run the new conquest for them.

War with India, buy out Russia. Not a bad start to reclaiming what they now teach is all descended from a shared global Chinese culture going back to before the days of Sumeria. Get whatever is left of India's billion people after conquest, put them to work in underpopulated Siberia where they need labor, the rest of the game is easy mode after that.


So where does India' estimated 140 nuclear weapons factor into your little scenario?

I don't imagine even China is going to enjoy the experience of even a 'limited' nuclear exchange if such a thing is even possible.  India has an estimated 140 weapons and the weapons grade plutonium for up to 200 more. The operate a nuclear triad as well making taking them all out almost impossible.

Go ahead and look at the border between those two nations.  Now figure out how to supply an army literally in the millions over those peaks.Or do you think India will meekly submit to Chinese conquest without a real fight with every weapon at hand?

"Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics."
 
2020-08-10 1:25:00 AM  

born_yesterday: bostonguy: Related story: Try paying in euros today in any of the few European countries that do not use the euro. Same thing.

Not sure if they've changed in recent years, but leave it to the Swiss to readily make this accommodation.  Restaurants and bars would take euros based on that day's exchange rate and give change in Francs.

/I always asked first, but if it meant I spent my money there, they were always cool about it
//I miss the Alps


In my (admittedly limited) experience, almost any touristy city in Europe has at least some businesses that accept payments in Euros, even if the local currency is something else (e.g. pounds, kronor, francs).  In Ireland and some Baltic countries, I've even seen some businesses accept American dollars.

Admittedly, most of these businesses probably don't offer as favorable an exchange rate as e.g. Visa.
 
2020-08-10 7:11:12 AM  

anfrind: In my (admittedly limited) experience, almost any touristy city in Europe has at least some businesses that accept payments in Euros, even if the local currency is something else (e.g. pounds, kronor, francs). In Ireland and some Baltic countries, I've even seen some businesses accept American dollars.

That's what touristy cities do.  If a regional economy is dependent enough on foreign tourists, there's a strong incentive to build up a financial infrastructure in which the local vendors can accept and rapidly convert foreign currency.  Some places go out of their way to excel at it.

Is this the rub?  I suppose the firm belief in American exceptionalism by American tourists is based on that one time they went to a tourist trap in Paris and the vendors accepted dollars.  See?   America is so mighty, foreign countries can't say no to our dollars!

Yeah, wake me up when it's not some gift shop a stone's throw away from a currency exchange.
 
2020-08-10 9:10:12 AM  

Private_Citizen: Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.


I've been to 5 different countries in Europe and none of them took US dollars.  Nobody has time to figure out exchange rates and shiat at point of sale and they sure don't have change for you in US currency.  What countries have you been to that do this?
 
2020-08-10 10:23:16 AM  
Everything trump touches does.
 
2020-08-10 10:23:36 AM  

twistedsteel5252: Everything trump touches does.


Dies

/doh
 
2020-08-10 1:13:16 PM  

debug: Private_Citizen: Walk into a store in the USA, Europe, Africa, South America, etc - can you pay in either Rubles or Yuan?
No. But they will accept dollars.
/The dollar will be fine.

I've been to 5 different countries in Europe and none of them took US dollars.  Nobody has time to figure out exchange rates and shiat at point of sale and they sure don't have change for you in US currency.  What countries have you been to that do this?


They don't even like to take usd in Canada.

The important thing is that PC got to be The Adult In The Room for about a half second
 
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