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TWX [TotalFark]
2020-08-08 11:41:07 PM  
156 votes:
Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.
 
I want that sauce Morty!
2020-08-09 5:47:49 AM  
72 votes:
If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.
 
aagrajag
2020-08-09 5:45:19 AM  
59 votes:

Original: Original Tweet:

AidenWolfe: My dad, a redneck who loathes politics & has NEVER voted, just left me a voicemail. Between the random string of obscenities, I can decipher "Boy, I need you to help me vote. Your momma just told me that son of a biatch is gonna fark me. That's my farking money."


Oh, now you care.

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Mr. Coffee Nerves [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-08-09 7:37:20 AM  
46 votes:
If I were doing ads for Joe Biden I'd have something running today on every program that skews 50+ showing something like (just spitballing here) an older couple waiting for their social security check, having a harried, overworked mailman deliver it saying "Sorry, Trump is closing down our post office, so I don't know when your next check is going to make it," and the old couple saying "Thank God it's finally here now, we're out of food and medicine" then opening the envelope and taking out the check to see it's for $0.00 and a note falls out reading "Took the money for tax cuts for the rich!" with a smiling Donald Trump.
 
OhioUGrad
2020-08-09 5:31:14 AM  
42 votes:

TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.


Sadly most of them won't care or won't get it until it actually slaps them in the face. It's so easy for them to vote against their own best interest because it takes so long to hit them personally.
 
ElmoClyde
2020-08-09 5:37:29 AM  
30 votes:
I think there will be a lot of new voters. I've known Mrs. Clyde for over 40 years and a couple of months ago, for the first time ever, she registered to vote. And it would appear she won't be voting for Donny.
 
JonBuck
2020-08-09 5:43:04 AM  
23 votes:
More of this, please. A lot more. A flood.
 
groppet
2020-08-09 6:25:14 AM  
20 votes:

OhioUGrad: TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.

Sadly most of them won't care or won't get it until it actually slaps them in the face. It's so easy for them to vote against their own best interest because it takes so long to hit them personally.


Yeah it wont happen to them because it was supposed to happen to "those people" like years ago the Trump voter that was upset over him doing something about and said she was mad he wasn't hurting the people that were supposed to be hurt. They wont think it will happen to them until they open the mail and see that small check.
The dems really need to hammer this home like how the GOP was all about death panels during the ACA debate. They need to take the gloves off and stop doing the "They go low, we go high" stuff. They need to go full Lincoln project for at least the next four election cycles and use a bit more fear in their ads.
 
Chariset [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-08-09 6:26:45 AM  
19 votes:

jst3p: On one hand, good.


On the other hand, "It took you this long you stupid, ignorant, repugnant mother farker?"


Yeah.

I mean, good on you for finally seeing that this man's policies are ad hoc cruelties based on spite, but a lot of us could see that back in 2015.  Why didn't that bother you until now, when it personally hurts you?
 
jst3p
2020-08-09 5:55:05 AM  
19 votes:
On one hand, good.


On the other hand, "It took you this long you stupid, ignorant, repugnant mother farker?"


Let him vote, then put him down like Old Yeller.
 
andrewagill [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 12:06:47 AM  
19 votes:

TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.


The fun bit might be if they can trick him into saying, "No, we'll raise money through other taxes" & get Biden to run ads telling his voters that Donnie's gonna raise your taxes like HW Bush did.
 
t3knomanser
2020-08-09 8:53:51 AM  
18 votes:

qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check


Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.
 
The Iconoclast [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-08-09 6:44:09 AM  
15 votes:

Chariset: jst3p: On one hand, good.


On the other hand, "It took you this long you stupid, ignorant, repugnant mother farker?"

Yeah.

I mean, good on you for finally seeing that this man's policies are ad hoc cruelties based on spite, but a lot of us could see that back in 2015.  Why didn't that bother you until now, when it personally hurts you?


"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ― George Carlin
 
Mad Scientist [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-08-09 6:02:20 AM  
15 votes:
"What, you mean the leopard really will eat my face?!"
 
I'm an Egyptian! [OhFark]
2020-08-09 10:02:20 AM  
13 votes:

links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.

The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.


Yep. Because they thought he was an Evangelicals, and it turned out he was a good person.
 
t3knomanser
2020-08-09 9:03:59 AM  
13 votes:

qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything


So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.
 
rolladuck [OhFark]
2020-08-09 7:52:43 AM  
13 votes:

NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.


It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.
 
crackizzle
2020-08-09 7:17:24 AM  
13 votes:

ElmoClyde: I think there will be a lot of new voters. I've known Mrs. Clyde for over 40 years and a couple of months ago, for the first time ever, she registered to vote. And it would appear she won't be voting for Donny.


Mrs. Izzle also registered to vote for the first time this year. Immediately following her watching the Axios interview.
 
Somacandra [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 2:41:29 AM  
13 votes:
He's not wrong. So I'm glad to see another person voting in their self-interest.

/sniff he sounds like my dad r.i.p.
 
BeesNuts
2020-08-09 8:13:34 AM  
12 votes:

qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check


Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.
 
Parthenogenetic
2020-08-09 7:58:07 AM  
12 votes:
Hey, Boomers! President Trump's payroll tax holiday is just letting Gen X and Millennials skip out on paying for YOUR Social Security benefits!
 
t3knomanser
2020-08-09 8:57:06 AM  
10 votes:

qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?


"Because we stopped him"
 
Naido [recently expired TotalFark]
2020-08-09 7:55:38 AM  
9 votes:

links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.

The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.


Clinton won several, Obama won Indiana.  The next step is to stop talking about nuking them from orbit and start putting resources into the state.  Have an agenda other than "not as bad as those assholes", significant help for people in those areas, and talk to as many people as possible, face to face.  Might get to learn some helpful things ourselves
 
I'm an Egyptian! [OhFark]
2020-08-09 9:48:09 AM  
8 votes:

Saiga410: Not really sure which guy is going to fark him.  It really is universal for every politico to fark you.


You're trying to put a BSAB when your Cheeto God Emperor is trying to gut the tax that pays for Social Security? Are you that dense? I know your hero is not giving you much to work with, but come on, at least try.
 
Norquist Vagprobe
2020-08-09 9:06:44 AM  
8 votes:

qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything

So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.


You think Americans can tell the difference between image and reality? Wow, you have a lot more faith than I do.
 
greatgodyoshi [BareFark]
2020-08-09 9:01:45 AM  
8 votes:
I feel like this is some kind of bargaining attempt by Trump to get the Dems to back something else, except the Dems are now "Nope. Go ahead and do it." They're not really fighting him on anything anymore, because they know everything he says and does is either a bluff and/or an easy Biden promo if he does do it.
 
DON.MAC [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-08-09 6:14:55 AM  
8 votes:
I wonder about how the message will be received.  Many people getting Social Security think that ending it means they still get "their money" which apparently is in a big vault somewhere collecting interest.   If the perception is "I still get mine, but the lazy poors won't" it could be a gold mine of older voters that have been looking at their voting options.  If that perception is a lump sum of "their money", it could shift enough of the wondering right voters back firmly to the right.
 
t3knomanser
2020-08-09 10:13:07 AM  
6 votes:

qorkfiend: Most of them can, yes, especially when it actually literally hits them in the face like getting a social security check after being told they won't get one.


There's a sizeable portion of Americans who think Trump personally sent them $1,200 in pandemic relief, because he's a billionaire who can do that.
 
BeesNuts
2020-08-09 9:18:47 AM  
6 votes:

qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.

Get a load of this guy and his "tell easily disproven lies" strategy

The GOP appreciates the layup

Easily disproven lies like "This is an attack on social security." and "Now that some less engaged voters appear to be catching wise to this, perhaps Democrats should not vaguely insist that their social security is completely safe forever."

Yes.  Such easily.  Many disproven.  Much lies.

Easily disproven lies like "you won't receive your social security check"


Speaking of easily disproven lies.  Care to point out where I said anything to that effect?
 
tricycleracer
2020-08-09 9:17:21 AM  
6 votes:
"He's not hurting the right people" has finally evolved into "He's hurting me".  Hey, it's progress.
 
Astorix
2020-08-09 7:42:23 AM  
6 votes:

Mad Scientist: "What, you mean the leopard really will eat my face?!"


the leopards have been eating their face for 40 years. It just took them this long to notice.
 
Bloonface
2020-08-09 10:14:17 AM  
5 votes:

qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.

Get a load of this guy and his "tell easily disproven lies" strategy

The GOP appreciates the layup

Easily disproven lies like "This is an attack on social security." and "Now that some less engaged voters appear to be catching wise to this, perhaps Democrats should not vaguely insist that their social security is completely safe forever."

Yes.  Such easily.  Many disproven.  Much lies.

Easily disproven lies like "you won't receive your social security check"


If only one side weren't constantly trafficking in easily disproven lies that don't even contain a kernel of truth, a strategy which has brought nothing but benefits to them in the real world.

fark them. Grab this and pulverise them with it. They'd do the same if the shoe were on the other foot and, from an outside observer, the centre-left's timidity globally in dealing with opponents that don't give a shiat if their statements are even tenuouslytrue or not is galling.

If you're in a knife fight, bring a knife, don't just stand on the sidelines pointing out how naughty stabbing people is because the end game of that is being stabbed and dying.
 
BeesNuts
2020-08-09 9:20:59 AM  
5 votes:

qorkfiend: Norquist Vagprobe: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything

So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.

You think Americans can tell the difference between image and reality? Wow, you have a lot more faith than I do.

Most of them can, yes, especially when it actually literally hits them in the face like getting a social security check after being told they won't get one.


Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.
 
Norquist Vagprobe
2020-08-09 9:10:53 AM  
5 votes:

qorkfiend: Norquist Vagprobe: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything

So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.

You think Americans can tell the difference between image and reality? Wow, you have a lot more faith than I do.

Most of them can, yes, especially when it actually literally hits them in the face like getting a social security check after being told they won't get one.


I still think you overestimate them.
 
BeesNuts
2020-08-09 8:37:12 AM  
5 votes:

qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.

Get a load of this guy and his "tell easily disproven lies" strategy

The GOP appreciates the layup


Easily disproven lies like "This is an attack on social security." and "Now that some less engaged voters appear to be catching wise to this, perhaps Democrats should not vaguely insist that their social security is completely safe forever."

Yes.  Such easily.  Many disproven.  Much lies.
 
Flerkenpie070
2020-08-09 5:48:24 AM  
5 votes:
Better late than never.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 10:52:21 AM  
4 votes:

SurelyShirley: TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.

What good is social security, if you don't have a 2nd amendment or a well funded military to defend it?


It's amazing.  Decades of carrying on about the second amendment, and every single one of those second amendment advocates completely forgot to come out and defend the protesters against a tyrannical government engaging in gestapo tactics.
 
qorkfiend [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 8:23:42 AM  
4 votes:

BeesNuts: qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.


Get a load of this guy and his "tell easily disproven lies" strategy

The GOP appreciates the layup
 
I dont want to be on this planet anymore
2020-08-09 5:30:20 AM  
4 votes:
  Some rules are universal.
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Majin_Buu [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-08-09 11:28:35 AM  
3 votes:

Saiga410: Not really sure which guy is going to fark him.  It really is universal for every politico to fark you.


And there's the token BSAB mewling.
 
gilgigamesh
2020-08-09 9:32:45 AM  
3 votes:

qorkfiend: Norquist Vagprobe: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything

So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.

You think Americans can tell the difference between image and reality? Wow, you have a lot more faith than I do.

Most of them can, yes, especially when it actually literally hits them in the face like getting a social security check after being told they won't get one.


Yeah, just like that 2000 miles of new border wall that Mexico paid for, right?

Good thing Trump got that done, or he would never get reelected!
 
NathanAllen
2020-08-09 7:44:59 AM  
3 votes:
Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.
 
Ishkur [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 6:32:06 AM  
3 votes:
"Tell that asshole to keep the governments hands off my social security!!!"
 
DON.MAC [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-08-09 6:25:54 AM  
3 votes:

links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.


The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.


In the arguments about the popular vote vs Electoral College, I think there are a significant number of R leaning people that don't vote because they know their state is going to vote their way (OK, KS, etc) or their vote won't matter (rural CA, NY and other blue states).
 
links136
2020-08-09 6:10:32 AM  
3 votes:

I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.


The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.
 
Do you know the way to Mordor [recently expired TotalFark]
2020-08-09 4:24:02 PM  
2 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If I were doing ads for Joe Biden I'd have something running today on every program that skews 50+ showing something like (just spitballing here) an older couple waiting for their social security check, having a harried, overworked mailman deliver it saying "Sorry, Trump is closing down our post office, so I don't know when your next check is going to make it," and the old couple saying "Thank God it's finally here now, we're out of food and medicine" then opening the envelope and taking out the check to see it's for $0.00 and a note falls out reading "Took the money for tax cuts for the rich!" with a smiling Donald Trump.


Here's a list of Democratic PACs you can canvass with your idea. If you contact them you never know it might be accepted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of​_​political_action_committees#Democratic​

Hell, during the 2016 election runup I myself contacted some Democratic PACs with an idea of mine, it got accepted, and I'm not even American!

Remember this ad? Yes, it was my suggestion which inspired someone to create and run it.

Hillary Clinton Daisy Ad
Youtube yNKAlt-mrWM
 
gameshowhost [recently expired TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-08-09 2:32:01 PM  
2 votes:

I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.


But that would require offering sufficient policy deliverables to incentivize them to show up, yet I've been repeatedly assured that screaming loudly at the non-voter is The Way To Go™.
 
mcsmiley
2020-08-09 1:14:47 PM  
2 votes:

qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check


But the money comes from somewhere.   It comes from that payroll tax.  so, later in the year they're gonna say because Social security is running out of money, we will need to reduce SS payments, or you have to be older to get it, or no cost of living increase because the money is not there.
 
Smelly Pirate Hooker [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 12:46:08 PM  
2 votes:
I mean, most people vote in accordance with their self-interest. It's not admirable but it is logical. You can deal with logical people, unlike the Jesusy idiots or the Q nutjobs.
 
HerptheDerp
2020-08-09 11:41:28 AM  
2 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If I were doing ads for Joe Biden I'd have something running today on every program that skews 50+ showing something like (just spitballing here) an older couple waiting for their social security check, having a harried, overworked mailman deliver it saying "Sorry, Trump is closing down our post office, so I don't know when your next check is going to make it," and the old couple saying "Thank God it's finally here now, we're out of food and medicine" then opening the envelope and taking out the check to see it's for $0.00 and a note falls out reading "Took the money for tax cuts for the rich!" with a smiling Donald Trump.


Tweet it at Lincoln Project
 
Vhale [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 11:12:56 AM  
2 votes:
Let's see what the AARP does. One thing my sister noticed when she "came of age" the AARP is organized and on the ball about legal matters concerning seniors. They raise hell, send out word and then some.
 
Bloonface
2020-08-09 10:16:17 AM  
2 votes:

t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Most of them can, yes, especially when it actually literally hits them in the face like getting a social security check after being told they won't get one.

There's a sizeable portion of Americans who think Trump personally sent them $1,200 in pandemic relief, because he's a billionaire who can do that.


The letters Trump insisted on having sent out bearing his name and signature trumpeting the $1,200 relief probably had something to do with that.

/partner is a US expat and got one
//say what you like about Boris Johnson but at least when he paid out self-employment support he didn't insist on sending out letters with his name on them implying it was a gift from him personally
 
LeroyBourne
2020-08-09 8:18:55 AM  
2 votes:
That's a shame.  You could keep on educating him, like when he was working how much of his 'farking' money went to corporate subsidies.
 
PsyLord
2020-08-09 7:40:48 AM  
2 votes:
Did FauxNews not get the proper talking points about deferring the payroll tax?
 
Parrahs
2020-08-09 7:20:18 AM  
2 votes:

Saiga410: Not really sure which guy is going to fark him.  It really is universal for every politico to fark you.


One's got lube, the other one has syphilis.
 
Bennie Crabtree [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 9:45:54 PM  
1 vote:

Do you know the way to Mordor: and I'm not even American!


One part of me is saying, YES AWESOME HIGH FIVES

Another part of me, the logical part, is screaming NO AA NO.

Fark, dude, no. Americans will use your claim to discredit the Dems and say that is election fraud.

There is a reason I just post on Fark, instead of send my resume or ideas south. Their xenophobia is unparalleled in history. If any outsider contributes to them, the Americans who are scared of Others will use it to discredit them, and the Americans who claim they are not afraid of the outside world will prove they really are scared, by listening to the xenophobes and giving them literally the most valuable, high priced space with the biggest audience.

They are all terrified of outsiders. Rather than patiently marginalizing xenophobes, and considering their rants as something that can be engaged with or simply left alone, they "think critically" about xenophobes and spend hours and hours paying attention to them, because for every American, xenophobia must be heard and is necessary. We can't actually contribute, without it backfiring. All we can do is fart around on web forums.
 
FleshMonkey
2020-08-09 1:14:32 PM  
1 vote:

qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.

Get a load of this guy and his "tell easily disproven lies" strategy

The GOP appreciates the layup

Easily disproven lies like "This is an attack on social security." and "Now that some less engaged voters appear to be catching wise to this, perhaps Democrats should not vaguely insist that their social security is completely safe forever."

Yes.  Such easily.  Many disproven.  Much lies.

Easily disproven lies like "you won't receive your social security check"


You were the only one who brought up that specific point.

There are lots of other ways it could be affected.

Increase age minimums. Decrease payout amount.
Increase taxes to cover shortfall.

So Social Security will be affected. Vote for the party you think will do it better.
 
BeesNuts
2020-08-09 12:21:07 PM  
1 vote:

lolmao500: TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.

I said let Trump and the GOP destroy social security so the dumbfarks republicans finally get it... but everyone on fark told me they would just  blame democrats anyway...


If the Democratic Party just let's them do it without putting up a fight, they'd kind of have a point.

But it sounds like we have already lost, somehow.  If we put up a fight, and prevent disaster, then we were stupid to put up a fight all along.  If we don't put up a fight, and social security collapses, we'll be blamed.  Can't fight.  Can't not fight.  Both have risks.

Maybe just do the right thing and damn the political calculations?
 
Darth_Saltine
2020-08-09 11:56:16 AM  
1 vote:

tricycleracer: "He's not hurting the right people" has finally evolved into "He's hurting me".  Hey, it's progress.


"You mean the same bad things to happen to 'other people' can happen to me too? But I'm an economically anxious temporarily embarrassed millionaire, I can't receive the same treatment as 'other people'. Better turn on Fox/Newsmax/OAN so I'll know what to think."
 
I'm an Egyptian! [OhFark]
2020-08-09 10:47:21 AM  
1 vote:

Naido: links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.

The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.

Clinton won several, Obama won Indiana.  The next step is to stop talking about nuking them from orbit and start putting resources into the state.  Have an agenda other than "not as bad as those assholes", significant help for people in those areas, and talk to as many people as possible, face to face.  Might get to learn some helpful things ourselves


Considering that's been tried for years, and all we got was a slap in the face, called monsters, and had those rural rat-dicked sh*tsuckers intentially try to hurt anyone that wasn't them, nah. They wanted bootstraps, let them have them.
 
Tarl3k
2020-08-09 10:23:39 AM  
1 vote:

I'm an Egyptian!: Saiga410: Not really sure which guy is going to fark him.  It really is universal for every politico to fark you.

You're trying to put a BSAB when your Cheeto God Emperor is trying to gut the tax that pays for Social Security? Are you that dense? I know your hero is not giving you much to work with, but come on, at least try.


It's all the MAGAts have left...on one hand it's amusing watching them fall on their faces.  On the other hand, it's become really pathetic to watch.  Schadenfreude is delicious for a while, but then it becomes too rich...
 
Literally Addicted [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 10:05:57 AM  
1 vote:
Stiggin' it is only fun when it's happening to someone else, huh?
 
Flerkenpie070
2020-08-09 9:59:30 AM  
1 vote:

groppet: They need to go full Lincoln project for at least the next four election cycles and use a bit more fear in their ads.


forty

four hundred

four thousand

and never ever forget GOP perfidy
 
Diagonal [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 9:56:43 AM  
1 vote:

TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.



Wow! How wide is that overly-broad brush you are using to stereotype seniors? Does Home Depot even make something that big?
 
Norquist Vagprobe
2020-08-09 9:09:48 AM  
1 vote:

Naido: links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.

The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.

Clinton won several, Obama won Indiana.  The next step is to stop talking about nuking them from orbit and start putting resources into the state.  Have an agenda other than "not as bad as those assholes", significant help for people in those areas, and talk to as many people as possible, face to face.  Might get to learn some helpful things ourselves


Meh. I doubt that people who are fine with GOP governance are waiting for the Dems to move further left before they vote in their own best interests.
 
qorkfiend [TotalFark]
2020-08-09 7:53:29 AM  
1 vote:

rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.


Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check
 
aagrajag
2020-08-09 6:08:22 AM  
1 vote:

Mad Scientist: "What, you mean the leopard really will eat my face?!"


Please, no more. My doctor says I'm more cholesterol than leopard now.

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Saiga410
2020-08-09 5:40:26 AM  
1 vote:
Not really sure which guy is going to fark him.  It really is universal for every politico to fark you.
 
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