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2020-08-08 11:24:07 PM  
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TWX [TotalFark]
2020-08-08 11:41:07 PM  
Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.
 
2020-08-09 12:06:47 AM  

TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.


The fun bit might be if they can trick him into saying, "No, we'll raise money through other taxes" & get Biden to run ads telling his voters that Donnie's gonna raise your taxes like HW Bush did.
 
2020-08-09 2:41:29 AM  
He's not wrong. So I'm glad to see another person voting in their self-interest.

/sniff he sounds like my dad r.i.p.
 
2020-08-09 5:30:20 AM  
  Some rules are universal.
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2020-08-09 5:31:14 AM  

TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.


Sadly most of them won't care or won't get it until it actually slaps them in the face. It's so easy for them to vote against their own best interest because it takes so long to hit them personally.
 
2020-08-09 5:37:29 AM  
I think there will be a lot of new voters. I've known Mrs. Clyde for over 40 years and a couple of months ago, for the first time ever, she registered to vote. And it would appear she won't be voting for Donny.
 
2020-08-09 5:40:26 AM  
Not really sure which guy is going to fark him.  It really is universal for every politico to fark you.
 
2020-08-09 5:43:04 AM  
More of this, please. A lot more. A flood.
 
2020-08-09 5:45:19 AM  

Original: Original Tweet:

AidenWolfe: My dad, a redneck who loathes politics & has NEVER voted, just left me a voicemail. Between the random string of obscenities, I can decipher "Boy, I need you to help me vote. Your momma just told me that son of a biatch is gonna fark me. That's my farking money."


Oh, now you care.

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2020-08-09 5:47:49 AM  
If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.
 
2020-08-09 5:48:24 AM  
Better late than never.
 
2020-08-09 5:55:05 AM  
On one hand, good.


On the other hand, "It took you this long you stupid, ignorant, repugnant mother farker?"


Let him vote, then put him down like Old Yeller.
 
2020-08-09 6:02:20 AM  
"What, you mean the leopard really will eat my face?!"
 
2020-08-09 6:07:57 AM  

aagrajag: Original: Original Tweet:
AidenWolfe: My dad, a redneck who loathes politics & has NEVER voted, just left me a voicemail. Between the random string of obscenities, I can decipher "Boy, I need you to help me vote. Your momma just told me that son of a biatch is gonna fark me. That's my farking money."

Oh, now you care.

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*3rd world country*

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2020-08-09 6:08:22 AM  

Mad Scientist: "What, you mean the leopard really will eat my face?!"


Please, no more. My doctor says I'm more cholesterol than leopard now.

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2020-08-09 6:10:32 AM  

I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.


The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.
 
2020-08-09 6:14:55 AM  
I wonder about how the message will be received.  Many people getting Social Security think that ending it means they still get "their money" which apparently is in a big vault somewhere collecting interest.   If the perception is "I still get mine, but the lazy poors won't" it could be a gold mine of older voters that have been looking at their voting options.  If that perception is a lump sum of "their money", it could shift enough of the wondering right voters back firmly to the right.
 
2020-08-09 6:25:14 AM  

OhioUGrad: TWX: Yep.  Gutting social security ironically might be the thing that finally gets through the thick skulls of many of his uneducated, poor Republican supporters or those that were never otherwise paying attention.

I can't count the number of times I've spoken with older poor people that talked about their next (pending) social security check.  These sorts of people had never saved for retirement and a paltry monthly check was the only thing keeping them solvent.

The smartest thing Democrats can do in purple or red states is to emphasize what the destruction of social security would mean, especially to people that have contributed to it for decades.

Sadly most of them won't care or won't get it until it actually slaps them in the face. It's so easy for them to vote against their own best interest because it takes so long to hit them personally.


Yeah it wont happen to them because it was supposed to happen to "those people" like years ago the Trump voter that was upset over him doing something about and said she was mad he wasn't hurting the people that were supposed to be hurt. They wont think it will happen to them until they open the mail and see that small check.
The dems really need to hammer this home like how the GOP was all about death panels during the ACA debate. They need to take the gloves off and stop doing the "They go low, we go high" stuff. They need to go full Lincoln project for at least the next four election cycles and use a bit more fear in their ads.
 
2020-08-09 6:25:54 AM  

links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.


The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.


In the arguments about the popular vote vs Electoral College, I think there are a significant number of R leaning people that don't vote because they know their state is going to vote their way (OK, KS, etc) or their vote won't matter (rural CA, NY and other blue states).
 
2020-08-09 6:26:45 AM  

jst3p: On one hand, good.


On the other hand, "It took you this long you stupid, ignorant, repugnant mother farker?"


Yeah.

I mean, good on you for finally seeing that this man's policies are ad hoc cruelties based on spite, but a lot of us could see that back in 2015.  Why didn't that bother you until now, when it personally hurts you?
 
2020-08-09 6:32:06 AM  
"Tell that asshole to keep the governments hands off my social security!!!"
 
2020-08-09 6:44:09 AM  

Chariset: jst3p: On one hand, good.


On the other hand, "It took you this long you stupid, ignorant, repugnant mother farker?"

Yeah.

I mean, good on you for finally seeing that this man's policies are ad hoc cruelties based on spite, but a lot of us could see that back in 2015.  Why didn't that bother you until now, when it personally hurts you?


"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ― George Carlin
 
2020-08-09 7:17:24 AM  

ElmoClyde: I think there will be a lot of new voters. I've known Mrs. Clyde for over 40 years and a couple of months ago, for the first time ever, she registered to vote. And it would appear she won't be voting for Donny.


Mrs. Izzle also registered to vote for the first time this year. Immediately following her watching the Axios interview.
 
2020-08-09 7:20:18 AM  

Saiga410: Not really sure which guy is going to fark him.  It really is universal for every politico to fark you.


One's got lube, the other one has syphilis.
 
2020-08-09 7:37:20 AM  
If I were doing ads for Joe Biden I'd have something running today on every program that skews 50+ showing something like (just spitballing here) an older couple waiting for their social security check, having a harried, overworked mailman deliver it saying "Sorry, Trump is closing down our post office, so I don't know when your next check is going to make it," and the old couple saying "Thank God it's finally here now, we're out of food and medicine" then opening the envelope and taking out the check to see it's for $0.00 and a note falls out reading "Took the money for tax cuts for the rich!" with a smiling Donald Trump.
 
2020-08-09 7:40:48 AM  
Did FauxNews not get the proper talking points about deferring the payroll tax?
 
2020-08-09 7:42:23 AM  

Mad Scientist: "What, you mean the leopard really will eat my face?!"


the leopards have been eating their face for 40 years. It just took them this long to notice.
 
2020-08-09 7:44:59 AM  
Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.
 
2020-08-09 7:52:43 AM  

NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.


It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.
 
2020-08-09 7:53:29 AM  

rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.


Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check
 
2020-08-09 7:55:38 AM  

links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.

The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.


Clinton won several, Obama won Indiana.  The next step is to stop talking about nuking them from orbit and start putting resources into the state.  Have an agenda other than "not as bad as those assholes", significant help for people in those areas, and talk to as many people as possible, face to face.  Might get to learn some helpful things ourselves
 
2020-08-09 7:58:07 AM  
Hey, Boomers! President Trump's payroll tax holiday is just letting Gen X and Millennials skip out on paying for YOUR Social Security benefits!
 
2020-08-09 8:13:34 AM  

qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check


Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.
 
2020-08-09 8:18:55 AM  
That's a shame.  You could keep on educating him, like when he was working how much of his 'farking' money went to corporate subsidies.
 
2020-08-09 8:23:42 AM  

BeesNuts: qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.


Get a load of this guy and his "tell easily disproven lies" strategy

The GOP appreciates the layup
 
2020-08-09 8:35:20 AM  

links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.

The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.


Get yer own ha bi tat

Homer Simpson Offends Jimmy Carter
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2020-08-09 8:37:12 AM  

qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.

Get a load of this guy and his "tell easily disproven lies" strategy

The GOP appreciates the layup


Easily disproven lies like "This is an attack on social security." and "Now that some less engaged voters appear to be catching wise to this, perhaps Democrats should not vaguely insist that their social security is completely safe forever."

Yes.  Such easily.  Many disproven.  Much lies.
 
2020-08-09 8:53:51 AM  

qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check


Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.
 
2020-08-09 8:54:21 AM  

BeesNuts: qorkfiend: BeesNuts: qorkfiend: rolladuck: NathanAllen: Almost as if not receiving the monthly check that sustains their racist ways is the thing that could sever Republican support in the elderly.

It always has been the thing that would do it. The GOP has been careful to make social security untouchable for decades. Now, the chickens of their economic policies are coming home to roost, and they're backed into a corner. Normally, a clever arrangement would be worked with the Democrats that lets them save face with their voters. BUT, ...
This time, DT45 is in charge of their response.

Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Get a load of this guys winning strategy of "reassuring potential democratic voters that the one thing they are motivated by isn't really at risk."

The GOP appreciates the backup.

Get a load of this guy and his "tell easily disproven lies" strategy

The GOP appreciates the layup

Easily disproven lies like "This is an attack on social security." and "Now that some less engaged voters appear to be catching wise to this, perhaps Democrats should not vaguely insist that their social security is completely safe forever."

Yes.  Such easily.  Many disproven.  Much lies.


Easily disproven lies like "you won't receive your social security check"
 
2020-08-09 8:55:30 AM  

t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.


Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?
 
2020-08-09 8:57:06 AM  

qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?


"Because we stopped him"
 
2020-08-09 8:59:19 AM  

t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"


Except you haven't done anything
 
2020-08-09 9:01:45 AM  
I feel like this is some kind of bargaining attempt by Trump to get the Dems to back something else, except the Dems are now "Nope. Go ahead and do it." They're not really fighting him on anything anymore, because they know everything he says and does is either a bluff and/or an easy Biden promo if he does do it.
 
2020-08-09 9:03:59 AM  

qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything


So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.
 
2020-08-09 9:04:22 AM  

t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything

So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.


Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.
 
2020-08-09 9:06:44 AM  

qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything

So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.


You think Americans can tell the difference between image and reality? Wow, you have a lot more faith than I do.
 
2020-08-09 9:08:14 AM  

Norquist Vagprobe: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything

So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.

You think Americans can tell the difference between image and reality? Wow, you have a lot more faith than I do.


Most of them can, yes, especially when it actually literally hits them in the face like getting a social security check after being told they won't get one.
 
2020-08-09 9:09:48 AM  

Naido: links136: I want that sauce Morty!: If Democrats are going to make any inroads into rural areas, they are going to have to go after people like this. People that don't normally vote. Not everyone that lives out here is a knuckle dragging, MAGA hat wearing, racial slur shouting asshole. However, the ones that are will NEVER change their minds about anything. Find someone who doesn't vote and give them a reason to.

The South largely voted for Jimmy Carter, and then against him, but they still bought into him at first.

Clinton won several, Obama won Indiana.  The next step is to stop talking about nuking them from orbit and start putting resources into the state.  Have an agenda other than "not as bad as those assholes", significant help for people in those areas, and talk to as many people as possible, face to face.  Might get to learn some helpful things ourselves


Meh. I doubt that people who are fine with GOP governance are waiting for the Dems to move further left before they vote in their own best interests.
 
2020-08-09 9:10:53 AM  

qorkfiend: Norquist Vagprobe: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Nothing is stopping anyone's social security check

Hunh, I honestly thought we'd have to wait for Monday to start seeing the tap-dance around "it's just a reform to the payroll 'tax'," but I guess this'll do for an opening act. If the Democrats have half a brain between the lot of them, they're not going to let go of "Trump is plotting to destroy Social Security." If he weren't such a dumbshiat, he wouldn't have even mentioned the payroll tax, but let's be honest: he doesn't know what the payroll tax is, or how it funds Social Security.

"Trump is going to destroy social security" is the new talking point, and the Democrats should use it as a club to beat the GOP with, and the GOP has nobody to blame for that but Trump, and themselves for enabling Trump. I hope they get eradicated in the next election.

Ok. So, you'll run ads telling people they won't get your social security check, and then when people still get their social security checks, you will...what?

"Because we stopped him"

Except you haven't done anything

So? What does that have to do with politics? Trump has projected the image: removing the funding system behind Social Security. The Democrats can shape the shadow: that's a dismantling of Social Security. The only "win" for Trump now is to actually dismantle SS, because anything else means the Democrats can claim victory.

Politics is entirely about images and projection.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Oh, man. Good one.

You think Americans can tell the difference between image and reality? Wow, you have a lot more faith than I do.

Most of them can, yes, especially when it actually literally hits them in the face like getting a social security check after being told they won't get one.


I still think you overestimate them.
 
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