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(Axios)   Turns out, there might be some benefits to online schooling   (axios.com) divider line
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310 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 08 Aug 2020 at 11:36 AM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-08-08 9:41:45 AM  
My son has struggled in the classroom his whole life. With online classes, he doesn't need the written instructions repeated, his fidgeting doesn't piss off the teachers or other students, and he can't lose an online assignment in his death vortex of a locker. Online classes have been a godsend on the academic front.

When the plague is over, it would be a complete failure of schools to not still make the option available for a mix of in person and online.
 
2020-08-08 9:43:35 AM  

Boondock3806: My son has struggled in the classroom his whole life. With online classes, he doesn't need the written instructions repeated, his fidgeting doesn't piss off the teachers or other students, and he can't lose an online assignment in his death vortex of a locker. Online classes have been a godsend on the academic front.

When the plague is over, it would be a complete failure of schools to not still make the option available for a mix of in person and online.


Most of them don't have the resources to do either successfully, let alone both. It won't be a failure of the schools, it'll be a failure of politics. Again.
 
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2020-08-08 9:46:47 AM  
"Benefits" like if your house explodes but you find your lost keys on the floor where the couch used to be. Always look on the bright side of life.
 
2020-08-08 9:49:13 AM  

Shagbert: Boondock3806: My son has struggled in the classroom his whole life. With online classes, he doesn't need the written instructions repeated, his fidgeting doesn't piss off the teachers or other students, and he can't lose an online assignment in his death vortex of a locker. Online classes have been a godsend on the academic front.

When the plague is over, it would be a complete failure of schools to not still make the option available for a mix of in person and online.

Most of them don't have the resources to do either successfully, let alone both. It won't be a failure of the schools, it'll be a failure of politics. Again.


Yeah that too.

Only possible exception is that now that the teachers have been forced into trial fire, they're getting efficient with the available tools. Throw in the possibility to shrink classroom sizes (30% of kids WFH 50% of the days) and reduced amount of hard copy paper to deal with, and there could be some motivation on the front lines to make it work.
 
2020-08-08 10:39:38 AM  

Boondock3806: My son has struggled in the classroom his whole life. With online classes, he doesn't need the written instructions repeated, his fidgeting doesn't piss off the teachers or other students, and he can't lose an online assignment in his death vortex of a locker. Online classes have been a godsend on the academic front.

When the plague is over, it would be a complete failure of schools to not still make the option available for a mix of in person and online.


We should have been doing this from the moment online was invented.
 
2020-08-08 10:58:23 AM  
You mean besides not catching coronavirus and spreading it to everyone around them? Because that's a pretty decent benefit in my mind.
 
2020-08-08 12:14:29 PM  
You know who else got schooled by Axios?

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2020-08-08 12:35:38 PM  
When you send them out for recess its ok for dad to bang the teacher?
 
2020-08-08 12:49:40 PM  

Cafe Threads: Boondock3806: My son has struggled in the classroom his whole life. With online classes, he doesn't need the written instructions repeated, his fidgeting doesn't piss off the teachers or other students, and he can't lose an online assignment in his death vortex of a locker. Online classes have been a godsend on the academic front.

When the plague is over, it would be a complete failure of schools to not still make the option available for a mix of in person and online.

We should have been doing this from the moment online was invented.


Uh, Trump University ring a bell? Corinthian College?

I think it's good that there's been a grace period to shake out the hucksters and see what actual teachers, schools, educators, can (have) come up with... Sure, real schools have been late to the dance, but there's been a real effort to get it right instead of getting it profitable. Education should not be for profit. Unless you want your kids to get the blue-light special version.
 
2020-08-08 2:09:12 PM  

Boondock3806: My son has struggled in the classroom his whole life. With online classes, he doesn't need the written instructions repeated, his fidgeting doesn't piss off the teachers or other students, and he can't lose an online assignment in his death vortex of a locker. Online classes have been a godsend on the academic front.

When the plague is over, it would be a complete failure of schools to not still make the option available for a mix of in person and online.


Yeah, I think I would appreciate being able to ask questions as I have them rather than not wanting to disrupt class my asking a question from earlier in the lecture when a later concept indicates I didn't understand an earlier one properly.
Or having to put up with the dipshiat that refuses to "get" something or wants to debate at a level that indicates it's time to take it to office hours, not bogging the class down to a crawl
 
2020-08-08 2:22:57 PM  
Ditch assembly, pep rallies and school sports. Permanently. fark all of that quasi-fascist part-of-the-school bullshiat. School sports are a hangover from boarding schools when kids would not be at home, but parents can take their kids to play football or judo or whatever. Having kids being forced to play football, who farking hate it, is a gigantic waste of time and completely unnecessary.

And yeah, give kids videos of the lessons. Preferably, get government/states to create these and do them well. One copy, hundreds or thousands of schools. Then teachers become the support around that. Kids push a button on Teams and ask questions about a particular thing.

Oh, and if kids are utterly bored with your history or biology lesson, either improve the lesson or just stop teaching them. Honestly, I mostly cared about maths,history and languages. Everything else I failed miserably. Sat there just not caring.

We waste years of kids lives on school. Almost none of them leave as enlightened people, conversant in Fermat and Chekov. Lots of them don't even know the difference between mean, modal and median averages. You could get half of all kids to leave school at 11 or 12 and it would make no difference to their prospects.
 
2020-08-08 3:03:44 PM  
No school buses impeding (the greatly diminished at that hour) traffic
 
2020-08-08 3:07:25 PM  
I hated high school. I love to read, I like to study and learn new things, but hell is other students. Online would have been perfect for me.
 
2020-08-08 3:12:33 PM  
And for the slower kids, we'll have people in charge that are finally willing to just give up.
 
2020-08-08 3:45:06 PM  

farkeruk: Ditch assembly, pep rallies and school sports. Permanently. fark all of that quasi-fascist part-of-the-school bullshiat. School sports are a hangover from boarding schools when kids would not be at home, but parents can take their kids to play football or judo or whatever. Having kids being forced to play football, who farking hate it, is a gigantic waste of time and completely unnecessary.


Maybe things have changed since I was in school but AFAIK schools aren't forcing kids to play sports.
If they're being forced to play football or anything else, it's because of the parents. Remote learning won't change that.
 
2020-08-08 4:07:43 PM  
I don't think teachers realize how quickly all of this could make tens of thousands of them redundant and obsolete.
 
2020-08-08 4:19:43 PM  

Cafe Threads: We should have been doing this from the moment online was invented.


In the late '70s when the personal computers made peer-to-peer online education possible and let institutions bread out of the broadcast model, a computer cost about five or six thousand dollars in today's money and modems were sloooow. Even if you were on a good network, low-resolution videoconferencing on personal computers wouldn't show up until the early '90s. Learning management systems as we recognize them today didn't really exist until the late '90s.
 
2020-08-08 4:34:08 PM  
bread break out of the broadcast model

I really shouldn't bake and post to Fark at the same time.
 
2020-08-08 5:33:42 PM  

optikeye: You know who else got schooled by Axios?

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When I saw that, I assumed it was fake because why the fark would his handlers allow him to do an interview with someone who wasn't a cult member?
 
2020-08-08 5:35:51 PM  

farkeruk: Having kids being forced to play football, who farking hate it, is a gigantic waste of time and completely unnecessary.


Where are there schools with mandatory football?
 
2020-08-08 7:00:28 PM  

bfh0417: I don't think teachers realize how quickly all of this could make tens of thousands of them redundant and obsolete.


My dad was a college professor who was asked to come up with an online class curriculum back in the day, and he laughed and asked why he would want to try to put himself and everyone in his field out of work to give TAs something to do?
 
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