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2020-08-08 1:23:37 AM  
Remember when Obama merely threatened to get out his pen to circumvent Yertle's blockade of virtually all legislation, even bills that had broad bipartisan support, and Republicans screamed for weeks about executive overreach?

Apparently republicans don't.

Farking hypocrites.
 
2020-08-08 2:16:54 AM  
"Please reelect me. "
 
2020-08-08 3:07:04 AM  
I was going to post a fake tweet with other pre-existing rights and laws he was going to re-establish, but then I re-read all 27 Amendments to the Constitution.  There's not a single one in there he wouldn't repeal, if he could.  Maybe the 18th, but only because he can't count to 21.
 
2020-08-08 4:07:08 AM  
Yeah I heard him say that and thought ummm isn't that something Obamacare already did?
 
2020-08-08 4:13:43 AM  
Biden needs to give him the "Simpsons Did It" treatment when he makes these claims in the debates.

"Never been done before"
"Obama did it"
 
2020-08-08 4:17:12 AM  
"Over the next two weeks I'll be pursuing a major executive order requiring health insurance companies to cover all preexisting conditions for all companies," Trump said during a news conference at his Bedminster property in New Jersey. "That's a big thing. I've always been very strongly in favor. We have to cover preexisting conditions."
Trump claimed such a move "has never been done before," though insurance companies are already required to cover patients with preexisting conditions under the Affordable Care Act, which was enacted in 2010.

You fat, lying, orange sack of shiat.
 
2020-08-08 4:31:16 AM  
Imagine supporting Trump and but killing yourself
 
2020-08-08 4:36:45 AM  
Next he'll want to set up a medical system for the elderly. Then, maybe he'll propose ending slavery.
 
2020-08-08 4:42:03 AM  

Catlenfell: Next he'll want to set up a medical system for the elderly. Then, maybe he'll propose ending slavery.


*Does not apply to Mar-a-lago employees
 
2020-08-08 4:49:08 AM  

markie_farkie: Remember when Obama merely threatened to get out his pen to circumvent Yertle's blockade of virtually all legislation, even bills that had broad bipartisan support, and Republicans screamed for weeks about executive overreach?

Apparently republicans don't.

Farking hypocrites.


You're expecting consistency from a bunch of craven opportunists at best organized crime members at worst?
 
2020-08-08 5:12:32 AM  
As said before we already had that, plus it doesn't help anyone who doesn't already have insurance, so it's a waste of time and paper.
 
2020-08-08 5:20:40 AM  

markie_farkie: Remember when Obama merely threatened to get out his pen to circumvent Yertle's blockade of virtually all legislation, even bills that had broad bipartisan support, and Republicans screamed for weeks about executive overreach?

Apparently republicans don't.

Farking hypocrites.


A complete lack of shame is truly empowering.

This is Trump's greatest crime and most lasting accomplishment: he has taught Republicans that anything is possible as long as one has no shame, never admits error, and never backs down.
 
2020-08-08 5:33:01 AM  

EmmaLou: As said before we already had that, plus it doesn't help anyone who doesn't already have insurance, so it's a waste of time and paper.


It is just tRump taking credit for other people's successes, like he always does.
 
2020-08-08 5:33:18 AM  
The Republicans running for re-election who have spent all this time trying to get the "pre-existing conditions" bit repealed...Who are in fact counting on their (illusions of a) close relationship with 45 to get the ACA repealed in whole or part to get re-elected by their tea party loving donators must be having a seizure about now,
 
2020-08-08 5:34:00 AM  

aagrajag: This is Trump's greatest crime and most lasting accomplishment: he has taught Republicans that anything is possible as long as one has no shame, never admits error, and never backs down.


Never mind the Republicans, think of all the children who are growing up with that lesson.  Cheat to win, and when that doesn't work, lie, and when that doesn't work, lie some more.
 
2020-08-08 5:34:46 AM  
I remember when people with pre-existing conditions got protection from insurance providers the first time. If memory serves, one of the 2020 presidential candidates called it a "Big Farking Deal" when it was signed into law.
 
2020-08-08 5:37:58 AM  
Hopefully, this will stop those horrible people arguing in front of the Supreme Court to gut the Affordable Care Act and its coverage of pre-existing conditions.

Wait, what? Trump is the one trying to destroy coverage for pre-existing conditions in the Supreme Court case? So he's his own enemy? That just doesn't seem like something he would do.

/s (not sure if obvious in current state of stupidity in this country)
 
2020-08-08 5:41:37 AM  

markie_farkie: Remember when Obama merely threatened to get out his pen to circumvent Yertle's blockade of virtually all legislation, even bills that had broad bipartisan support, and Republicans screamed for weeks about executive overreach?

Apparently republicans don't.

Farking hypocrites.


IOKIYATC

/It's OK if you're a Trump Cultist
 
2020-08-08 6:21:25 AM  
Next up, his executive orders "nobody ever even thought of or tried before" charging NASA with getting a man on the moon by 2030, the creation of an interstate highway system, and declaring independence from Great Britain!

Or, to put it another way:
"In his own schooldays, Winston remembered, in the late fifties, it was only the helicopter that the Party claimed to have invented; a dozen years later, when Julia was at school, it was already claiming the aeroplane; one generation more, and it would be claiming the steam engine."
 
2020-08-08 6:25:11 AM  

killershark: Hopefully, this will stop those horrible people arguing in front of the Supreme Court to gut the Affordable Care Act and its coverage of pre-existing conditions.

Wait, what? Trump is the one trying to destroy coverage for pre-existing conditions in the Supreme Court case? So he's his own enemy? That just doesn't seem like something he would do.

/s (not sure if obvious in current state of stupidity in this country)


Yes it does. The Supreme Court overturns the ACA, and Trump swoops in and saves the day. "I alone can fix it." Even though he broke it first, and then fixes it to take credit. That depends on his followers not putting two and two together, by not knowing that Trump's DOJ is a party to the suit to overturn the law in the first place (or is at least filing briefs in support), but that's not an unreasonable expectation.

Trump could also try to require coverage of pre-existing conditions (not sure how legal this all is) but strip price controls from the policy rules (or "forget" that part), and then screwing people with those conditions on price becomes legal.

Who knows what all's going on here? It could just be someone reminding him of his "promise" from two werks ago, and Trump rushing to pull out his pen to try and sign something.
 
2020-08-08 6:25:19 AM  
Here we go with the "two weeks" bullshiat again.
 
2020-08-08 6:42:00 AM  

Catlenfell: Next he'll want to set up a medical system for the elderly. Then, maybe he'll propose ending slavery.


If he finds time between golf, TV, and role playing the surrender of Grant to Lee at Appomattox Court house with Stephen Miller.
 
2020-08-08 6:46:59 AM  

markie_farkie: Remember when Obama merely threatened to get out his pen to circumvent Yertle's blockade of virtually all legislation, even bills that had broad bipartisan support, and Republicans screamed for weeks about executive overreach?

Apparently republicans don't.

Farking hypocrites.


See, Republicans accused Obama of doing something that was bad, therefore Republicans are completely justified in doing the thing 100x worse and you're not allowed to criticize.
 
2020-08-08 6:49:17 AM  
Two weeks, huh? Sounds familiar...
 
2020-08-08 7:09:46 AM  

Captain_Sunshine: killershark: Hopefully, this will stop those horrible people arguing in front of the Supreme Court to gut the Affordable Care Act and its coverage of pre-existing conditions.

Wait, what? Trump is the one trying to destroy coverage for pre-existing conditions in the Supreme Court case? So he's his own enemy? That just doesn't seem like something he would do.

/s (not sure if obvious in current state of stupidity in this country)

Yes it does. The Supreme Court overturns the ACA, and Trump swoops in and saves the day. "I alone can fix it." Even though he broke it first, and then fixes it to take credit. That depends on his followers not putting two and two together, by not knowing that Trump's DOJ is a party to the suit to overturn the law in the first place (or is at least filing briefs in support), but that's not an unreasonable expectation.

Trump could also try to require coverage of pre-existing conditions (not sure how legal this all is) but strip price controls from the policy rules (or "forget" that part), and then screwing people with those conditions on price becomes legal.

Who knows what all's going on here? It could just be someone reminding him of his "promise" from two werks ago, and Trump rushing to pull out his pen to try and sign something.


Or, at the least, the idiots who support him believe that an executive order can somehow command insurance companies to do something.  So he breaks it, doesn't actually fix it, and those morons believe he fixed it.
 
2020-08-08 7:23:35 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Biden needs to give him the "Simpsons Did It" treatment when he makes these claims in the debates.

"Never been done before"
"Obama did it"


Yup, and Biden needs to mention that it was a "big farking deal" at the time, too, in case Trump forgot...
 
2020-08-08 7:34:02 AM  
There are 6 republican Senators who's seats are precarious right now. And all of them voted, at one point or another in the last 6 years to strip existing conditions from the ACA. (Joni Ernst for example voted to remove them at least 4 times)

And Trump just threw them under the bus 2 1/2 months before election day.

How do they go campaign on what their voting record is vs them wanting to align with where Trump on the matter now?
 
2020-08-08 7:36:53 AM  
So, does this mean Trump and republicans are going to withdraw the suit to strip the ACA of existing condition coverage now?
 
2020-08-08 7:44:51 AM  

Catlenfell: Next he'll want to set up a medical system for the elderly. Then, maybe he'll propose ending slavery.


I have a dream that someday he might propose building roads between major cities all across the United States. Imagine being able to get on a single highway and going from say St Louis to Memphis, non-stop. Only a man like Trump could have that kind of vision.
 
2020-08-08 7:45:59 AM  

Hey Nurse!: Catlenfell: Next he'll want to set up a medical system for the elderly. Then, maybe he'll propose ending slavery.

I have a dream that someday he might propose building roads between major cities all across the United States. Imagine being able to get on a single highway and going from say St Louis to Memphis, non-stop. Only a man like Trump could have that kind of vision.


Rumor is, he is going to issue an EO ending prohibition. Hell of guy Trump is. Hell of a guy.
 
2020-08-08 7:54:15 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: So, does this mean Trump and republicans are going to withdraw the suit to strip the ACA of existing condition coverage now?


Hehe he has never known what his left hand is doing.
 
2020-08-08 8:02:06 AM  

Langdon_777: Farkin_Crazy: So, does this mean Trump and republicans are going to withdraw the suit to strip the ACA of existing condition coverage now?

Hehe he has never known what his left hand is doing.


You always see on movies and TV when a POTUS wants to do something even slightly controversial, they gather the politicians who are squishy on their side aisle and they start horsetrading for votes. I can help  you get that new runway for your airport, and you get that water treatment plant, etc for  your vote. It's literally how politics works.

This administration..... hoo-boy. The GOP has been fighting existing conditions coverage for what, 12 years now? On the floor of Congress. In the courts. On TV every chance they can.

And Trump stands back and slings a hail mary monkeywrench right into the middle of it. He looks (because he is) like a shameless panderer and throws his party under the bus.

Big, beautiful genius brain.
 
2020-08-08 8:15:11 AM  
It's so amusing - someone on another thread completely s***jacked the convo about "Whitmer or no?" as VP by saying the entire concept of systemic racism as a public health threat (something Whitmer declared earlier this week) was "Orwellian Doublespeak" pandering to minorities - who should also be offended, btw😅.

Meanwhile this POS POTUS is now blatantly declaring that he's always been at peace with pre-existing conditions, and that nobody has ever thought, or fought, to protect them before! Like as if The Black Guy never existed - and this fairytale about Biden being his VP that helped pass the ACA is just further proof of his unfitness for office, of course.

Its utterly gobsmaking.
 
2020-08-08 8:22:56 AM  
The amount of Americans who have no idea about this doublespeak, let alone what is really going on, will be displayed come November.

Please, oh please my American friends, destroy this "presidency."
 
2020-08-08 8:35:17 AM  
Someone should take the EO ans shove it in the face of who ever is still trying to push the Texas vs US lawsuit that is trying to gut the ACA
 
2020-08-08 8:43:38 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: There are 6 republican Senators who's seats are precarious right now. And all of them voted, at one point or another in the last 6 years to strip existing conditions from the ACA. (Joni Ernst for example voted to remove them at least 4 times)

And Trump just threw them under the bus 2 1/2 months before election day.

How do they go campaign on what their voting record is vs them wanting to align with where Trump on the matter now?


Because a lot of their voters don't care what their voting record is, where Trump is now, or where he was at any point?
 
2020-08-08 8:45:56 AM  

qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: There are 6 republican Senators who's seats are precarious right now. And all of them voted, at one point or another in the last 6 years to strip existing conditions from the ACA. (Joni Ernst for example voted to remove them at least 4 times)

And Trump just threw them under the bus 2 1/2 months before election day.

How do they go campaign on what their voting record is vs them wanting to align with where Trump on the matter now?

Because a lot of their voters don't care what their voting record is, where Trump is now, or where he was at any point?


I don't believe that.

And neither do you.
 
2020-08-08 8:46:43 AM  
I could write this EO for him:

"I hereby order you to follow this law that already exists!"
 
2020-08-08 8:48:10 AM  

Langdon_777: The amount of Americans who have no idea about this doublespeak, let alone what is really going on, will be displayed come November.

Please, oh please my American friends, destroy this "presidency."


One wonders how many of my fellow Americans are aware of how intensely the eyes of history are focused on us right now.
 
2020-08-08 8:51:51 AM  

Mugato: "Please reelect me. "


I would never wish death on anyone, but in Trump's case, I wouldnxt spend a lot of time grieving if he were to die.
 
2020-08-08 8:53:23 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: There are 6 republican Senators who's seats are precarious right now. And all of them voted, at one point or another in the last 6 years to strip existing conditions from the ACA. (Joni Ernst for example voted to remove them at least 4 times)

And Trump just threw them under the bus 2 1/2 months before election day.

How do they go campaign on what their voting record is vs them wanting to align with where Trump on the matter now?

Because a lot of their voters don't care what their voting record is, where Trump is now, or where he was at any point?

I don't believe that.

And neither do you.


I do, yes. They are more than capable of rationalizing Ernst's votes against the ACA with Trump's actions. Remember that their problem is not now and has never been (most of) the ideas in the ACA.

More generally I look back on the last couple decades and think that anyone who's even remotely capable of - or interested in - aligning words and actions can't be a Republican any more, and was never a Trump supporter to begin with.
 
2020-08-08 8:55:02 AM  
The biggest winners in this administration seem to be the lawyers.
 
2020-08-08 8:56:35 AM  
I don't think executive orders apply to private companies or individuals.
 
2020-08-08 8:57:36 AM  

qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: There are 6 republican Senators who's seats are precarious right now. And all of them voted, at one point or another in the last 6 years to strip existing conditions from the ACA. (Joni Ernst for example voted to remove them at least 4 times)

And Trump just threw them under the bus 2 1/2 months before election day.

How do they go campaign on what their voting record is vs them wanting to align with where Trump on the matter now?

Because a lot of their voters don't care what their voting record is, where Trump is now, or where he was at any point?

I don't believe that.

And neither do you.

I do, yes. They are more than capable of rationalizing Ernst's votes against the ACA with Trump's actions. Remember that their problem is not now and has never been (most of) the ideas in the ACA.

More generally I look back on the last couple decades and think that anyone who's even remotely capable of - or interested in - aligning words and actions can't be a Republican any more, and was never a Trump supporter to begin with.


My point is, these Senators have to go home and campaign. They've gotten to DC in some cases specifically because they targeted the ACA for dismantling. And people voted, in many cases against their own interests, for them based on that.

Think about what Trump just did to them. Now they have to go home and try and retain those voters in order to retain their seats.
 
2020-08-08 8:59:48 AM  

markie_farkie: Remember when Obama merely threatened to get out his pen to circumvent Yertle's blockade of virtually all legislation, even bills that had broad bipartisan support, and Republicans screamed for weeks about executive overreach?

Apparently republicans don't.

Farking hypocrites.


And they get away with it because the opposition only cares about some outdated normalcy and civility. At least half the democrats on here sounds like conservative concern trolls worrying about conservative feeling on any given issue.
 
2020-08-08 9:03:17 AM  

RasIanI: It's so amusing - someone on another thread completely s***jacked the convo about "Whitmer or no?" as VP by saying the entire concept of systemic racism as a public health threat (something Whitmer declared earlier this week) was "Orwellian Doublespeak" pandering to minorities - who should also be offended, btw😅.


The concept of systemic racism as a public health issue seems to obvious to me that words sometimes fail me when someone objects.  It's like arguing that the sun is not hot.
 
2020-08-08 9:03:44 AM  
 Before leaving for Bedbugminster this weekend Trump also signed an EO requiring the outside temperature to remain a constant 72 degrees and for the rest of the summer the rain on the weekends is only allowed to fall after 9 pm and before 5 am. This has never been done before. This is another first for our greatest ever President.
 
2020-08-08 9:03:51 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: There are 6 republican Senators who's seats are precarious right now. And all of them voted, at one point or another in the last 6 years to strip existing conditions from the ACA. (Joni Ernst for example voted to remove them at least 4 times)

And Trump just threw them under the bus 2 1/2 months before election day.

How do they go campaign on what their voting record is vs them wanting to align with where Trump on the matter now?

Because a lot of their voters don't care what their voting record is, where Trump is now, or where he was at any point?

I don't believe that.

And neither do you.

I do, yes. They are more than capable of rationalizing Ernst's votes against the ACA with Trump's actions. Remember that their problem is not now and has never been (most of) the ideas in the ACA.

More generally I look back on the last couple decades and think that anyone who's even remotely capable of - or interested in - aligning words and actions can't be a Republican any more, and was never a Trump supporter to begin with.

My point is, these Senators have to go home and campaign. They've gotten to DC in some cases specifically because they targeted the ACA for dismantling. And people voted, in many cases against their own interests, for them based on that.

Think about what Trump just did to them. Now they have to go home and try and retain those voters in order to retain their seats.


I doubt most Repug voters will even notice the hypocrisy.
 
2020-08-08 9:08:08 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: My point is, these Senators have to go home and campaign. They've gotten to DC in some cases specifically because they targeted the ACA for dismantling. And people voted, in many cases against their own interests, for them based on that.

Think about what Trump just did to them. Now they have to go home and try and retain those voters in order to retain their seats.


No, no, no.  They didn't target the ACA for dismantling, they targeted Obamacare.  Big difference.

At least if you don't know they're the same thing, like the vast majority of these morons.
 
2020-08-08 9:13:04 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: There are 6 republican Senators who's seats are precarious right now. And all of them voted, at one point or another in the last 6 years to strip existing conditions from the ACA. (Joni Ernst for example voted to remove them at least 4 times)

And Trump just threw them under the bus 2 1/2 months before election day.

How do they go campaign on what their voting record is vs them wanting to align with where Trump on the matter now?

Because a lot of their voters don't care what their voting record is, where Trump is now, or where he was at any point?

I don't believe that.

And neither do you.

I do, yes. They are more than capable of rationalizing Ernst's votes against the ACA with Trump's actions. Remember that their problem is not now and has never been (most of) the ideas in the ACA.

More generally I look back on the last couple decades and think that anyone who's even remotely capable of - or interested in - aligning words and actions can't be a Republican any more, and was never a Trump supporter to begin with.

My point is, these Senators have to go home and campaign. They've gotten to DC in some cases specifically because they targeted the ACA for dismantling. And people voted, in many cases against their own interests, for them based on that.

Think about what Trump just did to them. Now they have to go home and try and retain those voters in order to retain their seats.


Trump protected their health care unlike that dastardly ACA
 
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