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2020-08-08 5:49:12 AM  
2 days seems to be a common theme with this shiat show of reopening schools.
 
2020-08-08 5:53:38 AM  
This is, I'm sure, all so much easier on parents than if they'd simply started with online-only to begin with.
 
2020-08-08 6:05:10 AM  
America: we learn every lesson the hard way.
 
2020-08-08 6:19:56 AM  

EddieMoscone: America: we learn every lesson the hard way.


"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing... After they've tried everything else." -Churchill, was it?
 
2020-08-08 6:22:05 AM  

ToughActinProlactin: EddieMoscone: America: we learn every lesson the hard way.

"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing... After they've tried everything else." -Churchill, was it?


Allegedly.

I think the attribution is in error, but the statement itself is dead-on true. And this time, trying everything else first is going to cost you rather a lot.
 
2020-08-08 6:45:35 AM  
To be fair, two days should be all a student needs to learn 2+2=Jesus and Donald Trump invented cornbread.
 
2020-08-08 6:52:19 AM  
Well as a lib, I feel pretty stugg-to.
 
2020-08-08 6:52:42 AM  
Is America great again yet?
 
2020-08-08 6:53:40 AM  
Gov. Andrew Cuomo gave the green light Friday to reopen New York's 750 school districts in person this fall. Another idiot.
 
2020-08-08 7:10:08 AM  
In all fairness, nobody could have seen this coming.
 
2020-08-08 7:11:25 AM  
 How is it just the inability to serve meals the reason for this? Kids and some adults don't congregate elsewhere? This is like me being surprised by a firecracker on July 4th.

Welcome back to stupid, America.
 
2020-08-08 7:13:50 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: In all fairness, nobody could have seen this coming.


Lulz
 
2020-08-08 7:14:47 AM  

dickfreckle: How is it just the inability to serve meals the reason for this? Kids and some adults don't congregate elsewhere? This is like me being surprised by a firecracker on July 4th.

Welcome back to stupid, America.


Back?

Clearly, we've always been stupid. It's now been weaponized to deadly stupid.
 
2020-08-08 7:18:24 AM  

EddieMoscone: America: we learn every lesson the hard way.fark yea

 
2020-08-08 7:27:15 AM  

Unikitty: dickfreckle: How is it just the inability to serve meals the reason for this? Kids and some adults don't congregate elsewhere? This is like me being surprised by a firecracker on July 4th.

Welcome back to stupid, America.

Back?

Clearly, we've always been stupid. It's now been weaponized to deadly stupid.


You are correct, but I was mainly thinking about recent events, including the president.
 
2020-08-08 7:35:43 AM  

Erebus1954: Gov. Andrew Cuomo gave the green light Friday to reopen New York's 750 school districts in person this fall. Another idiot.


I think NY may be one of the only states thats met all criteria to open its schools.
 
2020-08-08 7:36:37 AM  

dickfreckle: Unikitty: dickfreckle: How is it just the inability to serve meals the reason for this? Kids and some adults don't congregate elsewhere? This is like me being surprised by a firecracker on July 4th.

Welcome back to stupid, America.

Back?

Clearly, we've always been stupid. It's now been weaponized to deadly stupid.

You are correct, but I was mainly thinking about recent events, including the president.


It does seem amplified, no doubt. We didn't get here by accident.
 
2020-08-08 7:37:12 AM  

raerae1980: Erebus1954: Gov. Andrew Cuomo gave the green light Friday to reopen New York's 750 school districts in person this fall. Another idiot.

I think NY may be one of the only states thats met all criteria to open its schools.


It's 4:30 in the morning, why are you awake?
 
2020-08-08 7:51:25 AM  

Unikitty: raerae1980: Erebus1954: Gov. Andrew Cuomo gave the green light Friday to reopen New York's 750 school districts in person this fall. Another idiot.

I think NY may be one of the only states thats met all criteria to open its schools.

It's 4:30 in the morning, why are you awake?


Cause i got my required amount of sleep needed.  Seriously, i dozed off at like 830 last night.....😋
 
2020-08-08 7:51:30 AM  
Coffee County here in Tennessee had 2 schools that could not make 2 days. They started day 1 and had to close due to some students and faculty testing positive for Covid-19.
 
2020-08-08 7:54:41 AM  

raerae1980: Unikitty: raerae1980: Erebus1954: Gov. Andrew Cuomo gave the green light Friday to reopen New York's 750 school districts in person this fall. Another idiot.

I think NY may be one of the only states thats met all criteria to open its schools.

It's 4:30 in the morning, why are you awake?

Cause i got my required amount of sleep needed.  Seriously, i dozed off at like 830 last night.....😋


Ah, nice. :) And good morning!
 
2020-08-08 7:57:16 AM  

Unikitty: raerae1980: Unikitty: raerae1980: Erebus1954: Gov. Andrew Cuomo gave the green light Friday to reopen New York's 750 school districts in person this fall. Another idiot.

I think NY may be one of the only states thats met all criteria to open its schools.

It's 4:30 in the morning, why are you awake?

Cause i got my required amount of sleep needed.  Seriously, i dozed off at like 830 last night.....😋

Ah, nice. :) And good morning!


😊 Mornin' to you, too!!
 
2020-08-08 8:19:14 AM  

dickfreckle: How is it just the inability to serve meals the reason for this? Kids and some adults don't congregate elsewhere? This is like me being surprised by a firecracker on July 4th.

Welcome back to stupid, America.


Somebody call for firecrackers on the 4th?
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2020-08-08 8:23:31 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: To be fair, two days should be all a student needs to learn 2+2=Jesus and Donald Trump invented cornbread.


And they said Common Crucifixion Math and No Child Left Uninfected wouldn't work.  What does Mr. Scienceman know now?
 
2020-08-08 8:39:08 AM  
The school district where I live (I don't have children) is 100% distance learning.  Co-workers who live in either the OKC or Edmond districts have told me their children are set up for the mixed option by the decision of the administrators.  These administrators made their decisions in meetings which were conducted ONLINE, due to social distancing concerns.

Let that sink in, because the kinds of people in leadership in this state, from the idiot in the Governor's office on down, are endemic of this kind of stupid.  MSN.com currently has a list of states that will have to close again, and Oklahoma is in that list for a very good reason.  We have more 'DERP' and 'MUH FREEDUMS', per capita, than any other state, save for Texas.
 
2020-08-08 8:39:15 AM  
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2020-08-08 8:56:24 AM  
I don't see why people can't understand this simple fact: Nothing will be normal until there is a safe and effective vaccine (and people get vaccinated). I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of people have to die before this sinks in.
 
2020-08-08 9:04:52 AM  

Singleballtheory: This is, I'm sure, all so much easier on parents than if they'd simply started with online-only to begin with.


But the kids have to be warehoused so the Worker parents can go back to slaving for the Owners.
 
2020-08-08 9:07:44 AM  

hissatsu: I don't see why people can't understand this simple fact: Nothing will be normal until there is a safe and effective vaccine (and people get vaccinated). I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of people have to die before this sinks in.


It's going to be millions.
 
2020-08-08 9:18:06 AM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: 2 days seems to be a common theme with this shiat show of reopening schools.


2 days is enough time to get the kids oriented to online learning and hand out materials...

We start the 19th and first 2 days are "here's how you access ypur work from home."
 
2020-08-08 9:23:49 AM  

raerae1980: Erebus1954: Gov. Andrew Cuomo gave the green light Friday to reopen New York's 750 school districts in person this fall. Another idiot.

I think NY may be one of the only states thats met all criteria to open its schools.


NJ "opened" but a whole bunch of districts basically "LOL no"'d it and are only doing remote classes.
 
2020-08-08 9:36:58 AM  

jso2897: Singleballtheory: This is, I'm sure, all so much easier on parents than if they'd simply started with online-only to begin with.

But the kids have to be warehoused so the Worker parents can go back to slaving for the Owners.


I have a family member who is in this area of thinking.  Shes a single parent to 3 kids under 11, 2 are special needs. She complains all day at work that she needs school open back up cause,

1 she said the babysitting cost are killing her for the kids home right now.
2. she can't handle trying to teach her special needs kids at home.

The state has set up 3 plans depending on a color chart for danger.  on a per county setup

green is 4 days a week learning(weds off for middle of the week deep clean).
yellow is 2 days a week (kids are there mon/tues or thurs/friday). again with weds off for deep cleaning with rest online
red is all remote learning.

and will re look at all counties ever two week and make changes as needed.

depending on the color a county is is what the schools can offer.

Atm all counties are green.

Schools are free to chose how they are going.

Most it seems are going with green plan but letting parents chose to have their kids do yellow or red plans.

my stepsons school department is doing yellow and red only atm.  they are not doing green plan at all.

family members school is doing a combo of all 3.  she going with the green, and has stated that she has told the school no matter what the state dose she expect the school to stay green for the whole year.
 
2020-08-08 9:41:08 AM  
They are shocked.  SHOCKED!  That nobody warned them.
 
2020-08-08 9:45:38 AM  

jumac: 2. she can't handle trying to teach her special needs kids at home.


There were many mothers protesting virtual classrooms because it was too difficult for them. I can't help but feel an utter lack of sympathy for their situation. Thinking everything would be fine because they had a mandated babysitter for 8 hours a day.
 
2020-08-08 9:50:20 AM  

Unikitty: jumac: 2. she can't handle trying to teach her special needs kids at home.

There were many mothers protesting virtual classrooms because it was too difficult for them. I can't help but feel an utter lack of sympathy for their situation. Thinking everything would be fine because they had a mandated babysitter for 8 hours a day.


both my step son and oldest son are special needs.  now granted as they got older they grew out of most of it.  But when they where younger it was a pita to get them to do homework but me, my ex, and current wife all worked hard and got it done as we all knew it was our jobs.
 
2020-08-08 9:54:24 AM  

jumac: family members school is doing a combo of all 3. she going with the green, and has stated that she has told the school no matter what the state dose she expect the school to stay green for the whole year.


Well - I can cross my fingers and hope your sister and her kids will be okay.
But that might not be enough.
 
2020-08-08 10:00:03 AM  
Woot, first ever green!  This is a school local to me, not a big town at all.  We open up Tuesday with all students and staff wearing masks inside.  However, no masks required in the cafeteria of course so you can eat.  Also, when we go out for recess, no masks required.  I doubt we make it to labor day.
 
2020-08-08 10:03:18 AM  

dickfreckle: How is it just the inability to serve meals the reason for this? Kids and some adults don't congregate elsewhere? This is like me being surprised by a firecracker on July 4th.

Welcome back to stupid, America.


Several districts around me here in MN are running the kitchens and delivering Meals, school packets etc via the school bus system so bus drivers get paid kitchen staff get the meals out & kids stay isolated
 
2020-08-08 10:04:21 AM  
My son starts Kindergarten this fall. The school board was giving the option of in-person or online. We were going to choose online. Yesterday they announced they would be going online for everyone, so now at least we don't have to ask for it.
 
2020-08-08 10:08:29 AM  
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/repeat for every other school district that tries to open.
 
2020-08-08 10:09:24 AM  

jso2897: jumac: family members school is doing a combo of all 3. she going with the green, and has stated that she has told the school no matter what the state dose she expect the school to stay green for the whole year.

Well - I can cross my fingers and hope your sister and her kids will be okay.
But that might not be enough.


We do as well.  The biggest issue is the rest of the family has tried to sit down and talk to her saying that she need to be making plans and such for best case having to switch between 4 days of school a week and some or all at home learning as the year goes on and worst case is full at home learning for most of the year.

Those who can have offered to help, But she won't make any plans at all.  Come he## or high water she fully determent to keep the kids in school for 4 days a week.  She states she under stands what going on but that the school need to stay open for at lest the single parents who need the school open so they can work and parents who have special needs kids who the parents are not trained to handle.
 
2020-08-08 10:10:43 AM  

jumac: Unikitty: jumac: 2. she can't handle trying to teach her special needs kids at home.

There were many mothers protesting virtual classrooms because it was too difficult for them. I can't help but feel an utter lack of sympathy for their situation. Thinking everything would be fine because they had a mandated babysitter for 8 hours a day.

both my step son and oldest son are special needs.  now granted as they got older they grew out of most of it.  But when they where younger it was a pita to get them to do homework but me, my ex, and current wife all worked hard and got it done as we all knew it was our jobs.


Awesome. Seriously. :)

Seeing those women protest brought me back to a story Kelly Clarkson highlighted. 40+ year old woman wanted a child so bad she defied all medical recommendations amd was gifted with a half-blind, half-deaf, mute, quadriplegic child with countless other health issues. He was her 'miracle baby' -- and now she needs all help in the world to keep him alive. It pained me in ways I can't really describe.
 
2020-08-08 10:44:05 AM  

kuchikirukia: Is America great again yet?


Was it ever?
 
2020-08-08 11:18:19 AM  
We warned you.
 
2020-08-08 11:22:21 AM  
Last line of the article: The district plans to resume in-person classes once quarantine is lifted.

They've learned nothing. Worse, they'll be continuing the two weeks remote, then a few days in person, then two weeks remote until a vaccine is widely available, which totally isn't disruptive for everyone involved.
 
2020-08-08 11:23:56 AM  
Don't get me wrong. I feel for families, in particular those who cannot break away from the construct of "schools acting as daycare so parents are freed up just long enough to work 40 hours a week". However this seems like the part where we should collectively revisit the design of the society we've put together, not merely lament an inevitable death march because "we ain't changin' a thing!"
 
2020-08-08 11:36:06 AM  

jso2897: Singleballtheory: This is, I'm sure, all so much easier on parents than if they'd simply started with online-only to begin with.

But the kids have to be warehoused so the Worker parents can go back to slaving for the Owners.


I know that's hyperbolic phrasing but the struggle of two parents trying to work remotely full-time and take care of kids simultaneously is crushing.

I don't have kids but I am working extra to cover for one of my direct reports who has a one year old and a three year old.  I don't even resent it.  His kids are getting increasingly unruly, and we had to end one meeting because one of his kids was screaming and his wife was taking care of the other.

Don't get me wrong:  I don't think we should reopen schools right now.  But the parents are not OK, and I'm very empathetic to that.

It would be better if we lived in a world where two incomes wasn't necessary to raise a family.... but we don't.

It's hard any way you look at it.
 
2020-08-08 11:46:42 AM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: dickfreckle: How is it just the inability to serve meals the reason for this? Kids and some adults don't congregate elsewhere? This is like me being surprised by a firecracker on July 4th.

Welcome back to stupid, America.

Several districts around me here in MN are running the kitchens and delivering Meals, school packets etc via the school bus system so bus drivers get paid kitchen staff get the meals out & kids stay isolated


We have that plus a few of the busses got turned into mobile wireless ISP stations. They are positioned around the city in the few places where there are students poor enough not to have home internet.

That's not to say they have it all together. They were going to start the year in-person with an online option. Luckily the county board of health came out with a strong recommendation that they not do in-person classes. That gave the superintendent enough coverage to go online and cancel sports. There was a brief protest, mostly from a few of the football players and their parents, but the super said he's not moved, as long as the experts say it's unsafe he's not putting people at risk. For some reason this is requiring an extra week of prep so they pushed back the start of the school year a week. Since they were going to be offering an online option I'm not sure what the extra time is for but I'm glad we have functioning adults in change despite living in a Republican area of a Republican dominated state (the state is actually closer to 50/50 but the R's control state politics thanks to the same unequal vote problem we have at the national level)
 
2020-08-08 12:00:01 PM  
There are 2 ways school staff could turn ever school in the USA into remote learning right now.

1. something like 50% of people working in schools(teachers/admin/cleaners/cooks) are all old enough to get retirement.  No way a school department could replace them in a timely manner if to many said go online or I retire.

2. In stated that can. The teacher union can say go online or we strike.
 
2020-08-08 12:09:56 PM  
As predicted. (sigh)
 
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