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(Al Jazeera)   You might want to sit down for this, but it seems as though Lebanon's government isn't terribly popular right now   (aljazeera.com) divider line
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2020-08-07 1:35:35 PM  
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2020-08-07 2:51:45 PM  
Well, they weren't before this either.
 
2020-08-07 2:54:36 PM  
i didn't have to sit down for that.  i'm still on bed rest from explosion related injuries.

/too soon
 
2020-08-07 2:54:52 PM  
When your government is used as a farkdoll by Israel, Syria, Iran, the US, France, etc. for decades don't be too surprised if it's a bit messed up
 
2020-08-07 2:55:14 PM  
Well, it costs money to move tons of ammonium nitrate to a safe place, and they haven't got any.

/maybe stealing that Russian guy's ship wasn't such a great idea, after all
 
2020-08-07 2:56:34 PM  

oopsboom: i didn't have to sit down for that.  i'm still on bed rest from explosion related injuries.

/too soon


So is subby's mom

/apologize for me subby
 
2020-08-07 2:56:49 PM  
When were they ever?  Whoever is in power, there are always 2 or 3 groups who want to kill them so one of  them can be in power and then the cycle starts again.  Besides, they don't need any accidental explosions leveling the city, they want to do it themselves.
 
2020-08-07 3:01:06 PM  
Think I saw this episode on Homeland or Strike Back, it's all a blur.
 
2020-08-07 3:02:14 PM  
Not sure what the problem is... they've only killed over a hundred of their citizens.

OUR government has killed over a hundred THOUSAND of our citizens, and half the country is fine with that.
 
2020-08-07 3:06:43 PM  
Maybe they should rename themselves Palestine.   Everyone wants Palestine to grow and thrive. Except, you know who.

Imagine all the Mooslums pouring billions in to New Palestine as an example of Islam's greatness.
 
2020-08-07 3:06:48 PM  
well they got a weird power sharing thing going in government to keep the peace amongst religions add the constant bribe money coming in from every power country in the region + u.s it doesn't make for a great way to run the place.

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2020-08-07 3:07:36 PM  
From this week's Economist:

"What kind of government leaves a mountain of explosive chemicals lying around unsafely for the better part of a decade? The same kind that cannot agree on a budget for 11 years and that let its central bank run a Ponzi scheme to defend its unrealistic currency peg. The kind which is so deluded that it relies on aid, loans and remittances, spending far more than it collects in taxes. The kind that is controlled by an out-of-touch elite who fiddle and extort while the economy burns. In short, it is the government of Lebanon-and it is in desperate need of reform."
 
2020-08-07 3:10:20 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Maybe they should rename themselves Palestine.   Everyone wants Palestine to grow and thrive. Except, you know who.

Imagine all the Mooslums pouring billions in to New Palestine as an example of Islam's greatness.


Lebanon is almost 50% Christian.
 
2020-08-07 3:11:11 PM  

bthom37: When your government is used as a farkdoll by Israel, Syria, Iran, the US, France, etc. for decades don't be too surprised if it's a bit messed up


From the same article I linked earlier:

"There was a time when such fears seemed like a good reason to move slowly in unpicking the power-sharing system. But those in power are using the crisis to hook more of their followers on the handouts they provide. And the cost of moving slowly is increasingly clear. It was not fighting or foreign occupation that led to the destruction of a large part of Beirut. It was incompetence by a corrupt and broken state."
 
2020-08-07 3:11:29 PM  
The Government blamed the wrong people. The Russian's were last month. Chinese are this month. America is next month. Whats the point of making a "who to blame calendar" if no one is going to use it?
 
2020-08-07 3:13:30 PM  
Sunni's ain't Shi'at!
 
2020-08-07 3:15:17 PM  
Do you want Hezbollah to take over Lebanon? Because this is how you get a Hezbollah takeover of Lebanon.
 
2020-08-07 3:19:19 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Maybe they should rename themselves Palestine.   Everyone wants Palestine to grow and thrive. Except, you know who.



Hamas? Fatah? Palestinian Islamic Jihad? PFLP? PLF? Abbas? Sinwar? Haniyeh?
 
2020-08-07 3:19:22 PM  
I guess the Lebanese want an all-female government.
 
2020-08-07 3:20:24 PM  
Wow! That news was a bombshell. Thank you Mr. Romero.
 
2020-08-07 3:22:59 PM  
Whoa! That place sounds like a tinderbox that could go up at any minute!
 
2020-08-07 3:33:58 PM  

dryknife: I guess the Lebanese want an all-female government.


I think you misspelled Lesbonese.
 
2020-08-07 3:35:54 PM  

Yellow Beard: dryknife: I guess the Lebanese want an all-female government.

I think you misspelled Lesbonese.


Wasn't Danny Thomas one of those?
 
2020-08-07 3:48:27 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Maybe they should rename themselves Palestine.   Everyone wants Palestine to grow and thrive. Except, you know who.

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2020-08-07 4:02:23 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Do you want Hezbollah to take over Lebanon? Because this is how you get a Hezbollah takeover of Lebanon.


The irony is that at least if Hezbollah took over, you wouldn't have warehouses of ammonium nitrate and fireworks sitting around unused for years. It still would have blown up, but not in Lebanon.
 
Juc
2020-08-07 4:04:51 PM  
I can't recall a time when the folks in power were that popular. Although right now I think it's due to extreme negligence and laziness in their duties more than anything else.
Turns out folks want at least a modicum of competence in politicians and bureaucrats.
 
2020-08-07 4:20:29 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Maybe they should rename themselves Palestine.   Everyone wants Palestine to grow and thrive. Except, you know who.

Imagine all the Mooslums pouring billions in to New Palestine as an example of Islam's greatness.


My god that is incredibly farking stupid.

You've hit new heights, for sure.
 
2020-08-07 4:24:08 PM  

Doctor Poop: Harry Freakstorm: Maybe they should rename themselves Palestine.   Everyone wants Palestine to grow and thrive. Except, you know who.

Imagine all the Mooslums pouring billions in to New Palestine as an example of Islam's greatness.

Lebanon is almost 50% Christian.


So what you are saying is that they are over 50% Mooslim?   Hmmmm what's your astroturfing agenda there, Osama?

(/S)
 
2020-08-07 4:40:48 PM  
Bah, they'll just blame it on t3h j0000z, anyway. X.x
 
2020-08-07 4:48:54 PM  

Doctor Poop: Harry Freakstorm: Maybe they should rename themselves Palestine.   Everyone wants Palestine to grow and thrive. Except, you know who.

Imagine all the Mooslums pouring billions in to New Palestine as an example of Islam's greatness.

Lebanon is almost 50% Christian.


WAS almost 50% Christian.  The ones with any brains or resources moved to the US over the past 70 or so years.  Which kind of explains why Lebanon is the way it is these days.
 
2020-08-07 5:21:27 PM  

halifaxdatageek: bthom37: When your government is used as a farkdoll by Israel, Syria, Iran, the US, France, etc. for decades don't be too surprised if it's a bit messed up

From the same article I linked earlier:

"There was a time when such fears seemed like a good reason to move slowly in unpicking the power-sharing system. But those in power are using the crisis to hook more of their followers on the handouts they provide. And the cost of moving slowly is increasingly clear. It was not fighting or foreign occupation that led to the destruction of a large part of Beirut. It was incompetence by a corrupt and broken state."


Ah, the Economist, doing imperialism apologia since 1843.

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2020-08-07 5:37:23 PM  

Doctor Poop: Harry Freakstorm: Maybe they should rename themselves Palestine.   Everyone wants Palestine to grow and thrive. Except, you know who.

Imagine all the Mooslums pouring billions in to New Palestine as an example of Islam's greatness.

Lebanon is almost 50% Christian.


Which explains this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanes​e​_Civil_War
 
2020-08-07 6:22:19 PM  
The important part here is to blame dirty Mooslins for continuing to fight over the results of British border-drawing clownshoesness.
 
2020-08-07 6:57:22 PM  

bthom37: halifaxdatageek: bthom37: When your government is used as a farkdoll by Israel, Syria, Iran, the US, France, etc. for decades don't be too surprised if it's a bit messed up

From the same article I linked earlier:

"There was a time when such fears seemed like a good reason to move slowly in unpicking the power-sharing system. But those in power are using the crisis to hook more of their followers on the handouts they provide. And the cost of moving slowly is increasingly clear. It was not fighting or foreign occupation that led to the destruction of a large part of Beirut. It was incompetence by a corrupt and broken state."

Ah, the Economist, doing imperialism apologia since 1843.

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Compared to Karl Marx, they do skew a little right, but so does Xi Jinping :P

I like them because they put not insignificant money into getting things right, and admit when they've gotten them wrong in the past (like their approval of British rule in India).
 
2020-08-07 7:15:57 PM  

halifaxdatageek: bthom37: halifaxdatageek: bthom37: When your government is used as a farkdoll by Israel, Syria, Iran, the US, France, etc. for decades don't be too surprised if it's a bit messed up

From the same article I linked earlier:

"There was a time when such fears seemed like a good reason to move slowly in unpicking the power-sharing system. But those in power are using the crisis to hook more of their followers on the handouts they provide. And the cost of moving slowly is increasingly clear. It was not fighting or foreign occupation that led to the destruction of a large part of Beirut. It was incompetence by a corrupt and broken state."

Ah, the Economist, doing imperialism apologia since 1843.

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Compared to Karl Marx, they do skew a little right, but so does Xi Jinping :P

I like them because they put not insignificant money into getting things right, and admit when they've gotten them wrong in the past (like their approval of British rule in India).


The basic disagreement I have with their premise that 'Lebanon has a bad government' is that there is very little that the Lebanese can do about their government.  Israel, Syria, Iran, even Saudi Arabia (remember when they kidnapped the Lebanese PM 3 years ago?), are all stronger and none of them are interested in Lebanon having a strong government, one that could clean up the corruption, rein in the banking sector, etc.
 
2020-08-07 7:27:12 PM  

bthom37: halifaxdatageek: bthom37: halifaxdatageek: bthom37: When your government is used as a farkdoll by Israel, Syria, Iran, the US, France, etc. for decades don't be too surprised if it's a bit messed up

From the same article I linked earlier:

"There was a time when such fears seemed like a good reason to move slowly in unpicking the power-sharing system. But those in power are using the crisis to hook more of their followers on the handouts they provide. And the cost of moving slowly is increasingly clear. It was not fighting or foreign occupation that led to the destruction of a large part of Beirut. It was incompetence by a corrupt and broken state."

Ah, the Economist, doing imperialism apologia since 1843.

[Fark user image 425x240]

Compared to Karl Marx, they do skew a little right, but so does Xi Jinping :P

I like them because they put not insignificant money into getting things right, and admit when they've gotten them wrong in the past (like their approval of British rule in India).

The basic disagreement I have with their premise that 'Lebanon has a bad government' is that there is very little that the Lebanese can do about their government.  Israel, Syria, Iran, even Saudi Arabia (remember when they kidnapped the Lebanese PM 3 years ago?), are all stronger and none of them are interested in Lebanon having a strong government, one that could clean up the corruption, rein in the banking sector, etc.


Well y'all seem to at least agree on that:

"There is rage in the streets, but also resignation. Lebanon has endured much in its modern history: a civil war from 1975 to 1990, occupations by Israel and Syria, a ruinous war with Israel in 2006, and myriad other conflicts and attacks. The Lebanese prided themselves on their ability to pick themselves up and rebuild their society. This moment feels different. The economic model has failed; so too the power-sharing system that kept the peace between the country's religions after the civil war. As the country sinks, its venal political class seems oblivious. Gone is the optimism of October, when hundreds of thousands of Lebanese took to the streets to demand the overthrow of an entrenched regime. Now their thoughts are turning increasingly to emigration."
 
2020-08-07 9:50:48 PM  
I hear they have an opening for a harbor master.

I SAID, I HEAR THEY HAVE AN OPENING FOR A HARBOR MASTER.
 
2020-08-08 1:42:27 AM  

bluewave69: well they got a weird power sharing thing going in government to keep the peace amongst religions add the constant bribe money coming in from every power country in the region + u.s it doesn't make for a great way to run the place.

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I thought Casey Kasem had more pull.
 
2020-08-08 12:18:59 PM  

puffy999: bluewave69: well they got a weird power sharing thing going in government to keep the peace amongst religions add the constant bribe money coming in from every power country in the region + u.s it doesn't make for a great way to run the place.

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I thought Casey Kasem had more pull.


It was all downhill once Danny Thomas passed away.

/tony shalhoub does try but those were some big shoes to fill
 
2020-08-08 5:27:39 PM  

gameshowhost: puffy999: bluewave69: well they got a weird power sharing thing going in government to keep the peace amongst religions add the constant bribe money coming in from every power country in the region + u.s it doesn't make for a great way to run the place.

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I thought Casey Kasem had more pull.

It was all downhill once Danny Thomas passed away.

/tony shalhoub does try but those were some big shoes to fill


Tony doesn't like eggs.
 
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