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(McSweeney's)   Last week, after learning my district is returning to school face-to-face, I saved a document for my spouse on my computer's desktop. It's titled 'Read If I Die'   (mcsweeneys.net) divider line
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327 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 07 Aug 2020 at 8:57 AM (23 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-08-07 6:54:10 AM  
America - let's kill people cause capitalism!
 
2020-08-07 7:33:41 AM  
McSweeney's usually makes me laugh.

Usually.

/god damned dusty in here
 
2020-08-07 8:54:57 AM  
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I feel for the staff as well.

/  drtfa
 
2020-08-07 10:29:40 AM  
I'm not downplaying the public health questions, but have these teachers been living off the grid all this time?  My wife is a physician and has been going off to a hospital every day throughout this.  Pediatricians have kept the doors open and have been begging people to bring in their kids for their scheduled vaccinations.  We've asked grocery cashiers and stockers and delivery people and truck drivers to continue working so we can maintain close to our normal levels of comfort and consumption, and this is where we draw the line?  I'm not advocating a wide-open resumption of schools, but this is some hyperbole bordering on hysterics.
 
2020-08-07 10:49:46 AM  

Nabb1: I'm not downplaying the public health questions, but have these teachers been living off the grid all this time?  My wife is a physician and has been going off to a hospital every day throughout this.  Pediatricians have kept the doors open and have been begging people to bring in their kids for their scheduled vaccinations.  We've asked grocery cashiers and stockers and delivery people and truck drivers to continue working so we can maintain close to our normal levels of comfort and consumption, and this is where we draw the line?  I'm not advocating a wide-open resumption of schools, but this is some hyperbole bordering on hysterics.


To me the key difference is that people density and length of constant exposure is magnitudes higher in the case of schools.
 
2020-08-07 12:16:44 PM  

Katerchen: Nabb1: I'm not downplaying the public health questions, but have these teachers been living off the grid all this time?  My wife is a physician and has been going off to a hospital every day throughout this.  Pediatricians have kept the doors open and have been begging people to bring in their kids for their scheduled vaccinations.  We've asked grocery cashiers and stockers and delivery people and truck drivers to continue working so we can maintain close to our normal levels of comfort and consumption, and this is where we draw the line?  I'm not advocating a wide-open resumption of schools, but this is some hyperbole bordering on hysterics.

To me the key difference is that people density and length of constant exposure is magnitudes higher in the case of schools.


Plus children are absolutely terrible at discipline, e.g. not touching their face, always wearing their mask, disinfecting surfaces before and after they use them, maintaining proper social distance, reporting on their own health status daily, etc. It's not the fact of teaching that's the problem or the risk. The kids will accelerate the spread because that's just how kids are.

Just yesterday I watched a (mandatory) webinar about the protocols my university is putting in place. The students are being asked to do a lot of health and safety-related work that they wouldn't normally do (see above), and even though they're legally adults I doubt they'll all comply either.

Thankfully my classes are all remote this semester.
 
2020-08-07 12:30:11 PM  
"By the age of 12, I knew"...blah, blah, blah.
 
2020-08-07 12:41:15 PM  
Going to have to say... I had an "open in case of ex-Bobug" file prepped a few weeks before we got married, and have kept it updated. It's only polite.
 
2020-08-07 2:34:56 PM  
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Lock yourself in your house and never come back out. *Rolls eye*
 
2020-08-07 4:43:02 PM  

Nabb1: I'm not downplaying the public health questions, but have these teachers been living off the grid all this time?  My wife is a physician and has been going off to a hospital every day throughout this.  Pediatricians have kept the doors open and have been begging people to bring in their kids for their scheduled vaccinations.  We've asked grocery cashiers and stockers and delivery people and truck drivers to continue working so we can maintain close to our normal levels of comfort and consumption, and this is where we draw the line?  I'm not advocating a wide-open resumption of schools, but this is some hyperbole bordering on hysterics.


Maybe -and I'm just spitballing here- but maybe wanting to maintain as close as possible normal and comfortable lives is the problem.

See, I don't think maintaining healthcare services (hospitals and clinics) is a bad thing. But I'm betting they're taking steps to protect themselves, their patients and you.

But insisting on keeping as normal an economic activity as possible? With churches, bars, clubs and amusement parks open? And masks not being made mandatory? That's prioritizing comfort and normalcy over safety.

That's how you get 160,000 deaths (and counting). No other country on Earth is in as bad a shake. Well no first world democratic country, at least.

So, sure. Disrupting the educational structures will have long lasting effects. It may put an entire generation a few steps behind. And we ought to think about what to do in this regard, how to minimize or counteract this.

But to do nothing, to reopen schools as if all was well and expect nothing will result from it. That's how you go from 160-300K deaths to seven figures death tolls. Vaccine or no.

Good luck?
 
2020-08-07 10:32:03 PM  

Nabb1: I'm not downplaying the public health questions, but have these teachers been living off the grid all this time?  My wife is a physician and has been going off to a hospital every day throughout this.  Pediatricians have kept the doors open and have been begging people to bring in their kids for their scheduled vaccinations.  We've asked grocery cashiers and stockers and delivery people and truck drivers to continue working so we can maintain close to our normal levels of comfort and consumption, and this is where we draw the line?  I'm not advocating a wide-open resumption of schools, but this is some hyperbole bordering on hysterics.


It may have something to do with acting like a normal person while school is out of session. You know, when you aren't surrounded by hundreds of disease vectors that are even more contagious than the adults they would otherwise be interacting with, if at all.
 
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