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2020-08-07 5:57:34 AM  
Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.
 
2020-08-07 5:59:46 AM  
They should cancel the debates because of the pandemic.
 
2020-08-07 6:00:39 AM  

mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.


Sadly I think that's exactly how they'll go.  Trump will just spew vomit whenever Biden tries to speak, then declare victory because "Biden was left speechless".
 
2020-08-07 6:04:48 AM  

freakdiablo: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

Sadly I think that's exactly how they'll go.  Trump will just spew vomit whenever Biden tries to speak, then declare victory because "Biden was left speechless".


Maybe we'll get lucky and Dotard will get so worked up that he'll suffer a horrendous debilitating stroke live on TV. I'd pay to watch that.
 
2020-08-07 6:05:00 AM  

freakdiablo: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

Sadly I think that's exactly how they'll go.  Trump will just spew vomit whenever Biden tries to speak, then declare victory because "Biden was left speechless".


That's basically how the Clinton / Trump debates went and the media on the right immediately published headlines "TRUMP DECLARED VICTOR OF DEBATE!"

They aren't debates. They're just media spectacles meant to produce soundbites and headlines.  At least with Trump they are. Nobody should tune in for that bullshiat.
 
2020-08-07 6:12:36 AM  

mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.


"Fake nudes"? Have I somehow missed an entirely new scandal?
 
2020-08-07 6:13:11 AM  
Everytime I attempt to listen to Trump speak, I get a "nails on a chalkboard" feeling and have to stop. Trump hasn't said one intelligent thing in the past 4 years, I don't need to know what bullshiat he's going to make up now.
 
2020-08-07 6:13:49 AM  
He hasn't even had a first term.

This one was just for practice so it doesn't count.
 
2020-08-07 6:16:21 AM  

bborchar: Everytime I attempt to listen to Trump speak, I get a "nails on a chalkboard" feeling and have to stop. Trump hasn't said one intelligent thing in the past 4 years, I don't need to know what bullshiat he's going to make up now.


For me, it's just the verbal diarrhea that spews out. It makes no rational sense, at all. Just words, jumbled together, and most of the words are barely coherent anyway. Just, "Blarg blarg blarg blaaaaaaaah."
 
2020-08-07 6:17:53 AM  

OhioUGrad: freakdiablo: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

Sadly I think that's exactly how they'll go.  Trump will just spew vomit whenever Biden tries to speak, then declare victory because "Biden was left speechless".

Maybe we'll get lucky and Dotard will get so worked up that he'll suffer a horrendous debilitating stroke live on TV. I'd pay to watch that.


But not yet. Not at the debates, no.

He must suffer an overwhelming electoral defeat. He can stroke out as soon as the election is called for Biden, for that will be the only event which will silence the conspiracy nutters and stop Trump from deliberately burning the country to the ground in his lame-duck period.
 
2020-08-07 6:18:02 AM  

freakdiablo: Trump will just spew vomit whenever Biden tries to speak, then declare victory because "Biden was left speechless".


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2020-08-07 6:19:53 AM  
He doesn't want a debate, he is saying all this shiat so he can say "See, Biden doesn't want to debate me."  The truth is what tRump used last time will not work again.  He will have to defend himself and he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

I will be very surprised if there are any debates.
 
2020-08-07 6:20:10 AM  
Is he pimpin while in Office again?
 
2020-08-07 6:20:36 AM  

whosits_112: bborchar: Everytime I attempt to listen to Trump speak, I get a "nails on a chalkboard" feeling and have to stop. Trump hasn't said one intelligent thing in the past 4 years, I don't need to know what bullshiat he's going to make up now.

For me, it's just the verbal diarrhea that spews out. It makes no rational sense, at all. Just words, jumbled together, and most of the words are barely coherent anyway. Just, "Blarg blarg blarg blaaaaaaaah."


It's a little of both for me. Well, a lot of both.

His verbal word salad is a mess. I prefer to read the transcripts, because I can see how abysmally incoherent he is. And then weep for my country.
 
2020-08-07 6:20:54 AM  

aagrajag: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

"Fake nudes"? Have I somehow missed an entirely new scandal?


Never heard of Thighland, have we?
 
2020-08-07 6:22:20 AM  

Smoking GNU: aagrajag: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

"Fake nudes"? Have I somehow missed an entirely new scandal?

Never heard of Thighland, have we?


Ah, some other Farker already made the best crack about Thighland being close to Gyna.
 
2020-08-07 6:23:36 AM  

Ishkur: He hasn't even had a first term.

This one was just for practice so it doesn't count.


Lets make sure it didn't count by rolling back all of his appointments and executive orders the second the white house doors shut behind him
 
2020-08-07 6:27:42 AM  

Excelsior: Ishkur: He hasn't even had a first term.

This one was just for practice so it doesn't count.

Lets make sure it didn't count by rolling back all of his appointments and executive orders the second the white house doors shut behind him


And this time the Dems had better not exclude the prosecutions.
 
2020-08-07 6:28:00 AM  

whosits_112: bborchar: Everytime I attempt to listen to Trump speak, I get a "nails on a chalkboard" feeling and have to stop. Trump hasn't said one intelligent thing in the past 4 years, I don't need to know what bullshiat he's going to make up now.

For me, it's just the verbal diarrhea that spews out. It makes no rational sense, at all. Just words, jumbled together, and most of the words are barely coherent anyway. Just, "Blarg blarg blarg blaaaaaaaah."


Google "narcissist's word salad."
 
2020-08-07 6:33:34 AM  

Langdon_777: Excelsior: Ishkur: He hasn't even had a first term.

This one was just for practice so it doesn't count.

Lets make sure it didn't count by rolling back all of his appointments and executive orders the second the white house doors shut behind him

And this time the Dems had better not exclude the prosecutions.


It's sad, but you bring up a good point. Both sides won't agree even when ugh

So did you do a garden this year?
 
2020-08-07 6:35:47 AM  

Langdon_777: He doesn't want a debate, he is saying all this shiat so he can say "See, Biden doesn't want to debate me."  The truth is what tRump used last time will not work again.  He will have to defend himself and he doesn't have a leg to stand on.


Last time he basically ran on "what do you have to lose?"

This time we know EXACTLY what we have to lose, and how much of a festering train wreck his administration has been.  He'll have to defend the indefensible for the the entire debate, and there is absolutely no way he won't look like a window-licking dementia patient the entire time.

/And fox news will still crown him the undisputed winner of the debates because Biden had to think for a few seconds before giving a well-though out response to a question while trump has a firehose of verbal diarrhea ready to spout, no conscious thought required
 
2020-08-07 6:56:36 AM  

OhioUGrad: freakdiablo: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

Sadly I think that's exactly how they'll go.  Trump will just spew vomit whenever Biden tries to speak, then declare victory because "Biden was left speechless".

Maybe we'll get lucky and Dotard will get so worked up that he'll suffer a horrendous debilitating stroke live on TV. I'd pay to watch that.


If you keep making that face it will freeze like that.
 
2020-08-07 6:58:44 AM  
Trump knows he won't win by playing it straight so will instead go for what he knows - the outrageous. If he can't invent enough rocks to throw at Biden he will go full People magazine and leak details of a Monica Lewinski style affair. Get ready people, this is going to get grosser than Stormy Daniels' tale of inept prematurity.
 
2020-08-07 6:59:51 AM  
Biden: "No tax returns, no debate."
Don: ".......but...I..."
Biden: "nope"
Don: " BUT I WANT ALL THE ATTENTION!!"
Biden: "NO"
 
2020-08-07 7:07:47 AM  
Any voter who is looking at Trump's record and thinking "Well, I don't know. I'm going to have to watch a debate between him an Biden before I can make an informed choice" needs to be put in a small, well-padded room and be monitored through a heavily-reinforced window by a team of mental health experts on danger pay.
 
2020-08-07 7:09:41 AM  

aagrajag: OhioUGrad: freakdiablo: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

Sadly I think that's exactly how they'll go.  Trump will just spew vomit whenever Biden tries to speak, then declare victory because "Biden was left speechless".

Maybe we'll get lucky and Dotard will get so worked up that he'll suffer a horrendous debilitating stroke live on TV. I'd pay to watch that.

But not yet. Not at the debates, no.

He must suffer an overwhelming electoral defeat. He can stroke out as soon as the election is called for Biden, for that will be the only event which will silence the conspiracy nutters and stop Trump from deliberately burning the country to the ground in his lame-duck period.


True, and I guess that would be more satisfying to see him suffer a humiliating loss and then stroke out, but he'd still have to do it on national TV.
 
2020-08-07 7:09:50 AM  
There is speculation that Trump seriously doesn't want to debate cause he knows he will be crushed. He's making all these demands about the debates but hasn't actually signed on officially to do them. He wants Biden to say no to 4 debates and then he will back out saying he's a coward and won't debate
 
2020-08-07 7:22:39 AM  

stevecore: There is speculation that Trump seriously doesn't want to debate cause he knows he will be crushed. He's making all these demands about the debates but hasn't actually signed on officially to do them. He wants Biden to say no to 4 debates and then he will back out saying he's a coward and won't debate


Otherwise known as the Floyd Mayweather strategy.
 
2020-08-07 7:40:11 AM  

stevecore: There is speculation that Trump seriously doesn't want to debate cause he knows he will be crushed. He's making all these demands about the debates but hasn't actually signed on officially to do them. He wants Biden to say no to 4 debates and then he will back out saying he's a coward and won't debate


Oh, Trump doesn't want to be in the same ZIPCODE as Biden, much less the same room. He is so terrified of Bide that he literally committed impeachable acts to get Biden's pawn off the chessboard, and it didn't work. Maybe we'll get one debate, at which Trump will cancel the remainder because the mainstream fake news MSM media moderators were too mean with their questions
 
2020-08-07 7:46:52 AM  

Langdon_777: Excelsior: Ishkur: He hasn't even had a first term.

This one was just for practice so it doesn't count.

Lets make sure it didn't count by rolling back all of his appointments and executive orders the second the white house doors shut behind him

And this time the Dems had better not exclude the prosecutions.


"We have to reach across the aisle.  We have to let the healing begin."
 
2020-08-07 7:58:24 AM  
Do it with each debater in different locations with the moderator cutting off their mics for going over the time to respond.

Keeps Trump from shiatting on the chess board and Biden mercifully saving his dignity.
 
2020-08-07 8:08:45 AM  

Night Train to Wakanda: Do it with each debater in different locations with the moderator cutting off their mics for going over the time to respond.

Keeps Trump from shiatting on the chess board and Biden mercifully saving his dignity.


I really like the concept of being able to mute the other debater. Maybe we can have something approaching the civility of decades past.

If Trump has to form coherent responses on things Biden has said without being talked over, that would be several arrows out of his quiver. He would look like the uninformed mess that he truly is.

Plus, the visual of Trump raging away in silence after his mic is cut would be comedy gold.
 
2020-08-07 8:17:31 AM  

aagrajag: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

"Fake nudes"? Have I somehow missed an entirely new scandal?


Anyone is a fake nude if you're brave enough.
 
2020-08-07 8:18:05 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Any voter who is looking at Trump's record and thinking "Well, I don't know. I'm going to have to watch a debate between him an Biden before I can make an informed choice" needs to be put in a small, well-padded room and be monitored through a heavily-reinforced window by a team of mental health experts on danger pay.


Very roughly speaking, 40% of registered voters are exactly that shade of crazy.

I'm actually still hearing, "He's still new at this, cut him some slack!" from Trumphumpers I know, especially stupidly-simple elderly ones.
 
2020-08-07 8:27:13 AM  
Zoom debate.
And let trump set up the security passwords for it.

/what could go wrong?
 
2020-08-07 8:34:13 AM  

mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.


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Au contraire, mon fraire.  I will suffer hours of his whining to see him thrice publicly humiliated.  He's going to be so "coked" up, it will be glorious.
 
2020-08-07 8:37:24 AM  

bborchar: Everytime I attempt to listen to Trump speak, I get a "nails on a chalkboard" feeling and have to stop. Trump hasn't said one intelligent thing in the past 4 years, I don't need to know what bullshiat he's going to make up now.


4 years?
 
2020-08-07 8:39:31 AM  

Langdon_777: Excelsior: Ishkur: He hasn't even had a first term.

This one was just for practice so it doesn't count.

Lets make sure it didn't count by rolling back all of his appointments and executive orders the second the white house doors shut behind him

And this time the Dems had better not exclude the prosecutions.


Biden has said that he wouldn't stand in the way of prosecutions of trump and his gang of grifters.
 
2020-08-07 8:39:52 AM  
Debates are worthless until the media grows some sack and actually cuts of mics when other people are talking and when people exceed time limits.
 
2020-08-07 8:53:29 AM  

ukexpat: Langdon_777: Excelsior: Ishkur: He hasn't even had a first term.

This one was just for practice so it doesn't count.

Lets make sure it didn't count by rolling back all of his appointments and executive orders the second the white house doors shut behind him

And this time the Dems had better not exclude the prosecutions.

Biden has said that he wouldn't stand in the way of prosecutions of trump and his gang of grifters.


That's different than saying the DoJ will help out.  That's what we'll need.
 
2020-08-07 8:59:58 AM  

OhioUGrad: freakdiablo: mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.

Sadly I think that's exactly how they'll go.  Trump will just spew vomit whenever Biden tries to speak, then declare victory because "Biden was left speechless".

Maybe we'll get lucky and Dotard will get so worked up that he'll suffer a horrendous debilitating stroke live on TV. I'd pay to watch that.


I'd watch that on loop until I got off hands free.
 
2020-08-07 9:10:38 AM  

mattj1984: Biden: "Listen. I believe that as a country we are on the wrong track. Here's what we nee..."

Trump:"WRONG! FAKE NUDES! GINA! NOT MY FAULT!"

...

No one needs to waste one moment watching that bullshiat.


solution:   Have the debates on Zoom.   Mute the person until it's their turn.

Actually I would have a 20-minute debate in this format every other day until the election, each day on a different (but not pre-announced) topic.

I still like the idea of gaming the debates:  let some of them be oral exams on civics, history, or background information relating to the issues of the day (e.g,. COVID).   

Question gets asked, each candidate responds, both answers recorded, played sequentially.

Let's see who can think on their feet and who is well-informed.   Actually I'd GRADE the responses based on bullet points ticked.

Q:  What is a noun?
A:   It's a person (ding), place (ding), or thing (ding).  Or:
A:   People are saying that I am the biggest noun they've ever seen!

Q:  What are the five examples listed in the preamble to the Constitution that follow "in order to form a more perfect Union"?
(you get the idea)
 
2020-08-07 9:10:40 AM  

Excelsior: Biden had to think for a few seconds before giving a well-though out response to a question


Biden is mentally incapable of giving any coherent response to a question. He doesn't know where he is at on any given day. The past day's debacle where he called a black journalist a "cocaine junkie" and was verbally stumbling all over the place, losing his train of thought, inappropriately laughing (pseudobulbar affect), etc.

Democrats are in a sheer panic. Biden cannot handle 90 minutes of a debate. He is mentally incapable of doing it, and it frightens them.
 
2020-08-07 9:17:37 AM  

ukexpat: Biden has said that he wouldn't stand in the way of prosecutions of trump and his gang of grifters.


At this rate he's going to need to appoint *TWO* AGs just to process all the crimes of this Administration.
 
2020-08-07 9:23:57 AM  

mrmopar5287: Excelsior: Biden had to think for a few seconds before giving a well-though out response to a question

Biden is mentally incapable of giving any coherent response to a question. He doesn't know where he is at on any given day. The past day's debacle where he called a black journalist a "cocaine junkie" and was verbally stumbling all over the place, losing his train of thought, inappropriately laughing (pseudobulbar affect), etc.

Democrats are in a sheer panic. Biden cannot handle 90 minutes of a debate. He is mentally incapable of doing it, and it frightens them.

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2020-08-07 9:27:55 AM  
I sincerely hope that they just skip the debates completely.  Biden should just play the Axios interview, and say THAT is the reason that he won't debate.

There is absolutely NOTHING to be gained by Biden debating Trump.  No matter how well he does, Trump's people will turn it into a Trump victory.  Also - and this is the shiatty part - Biden is not that great in q/a on his feet.  He stammers.  He says things he has to clarify later.

Trump's people will POUNCE on this.  Even though Trump himself is FAR worse, they will still pounce on Biden, and never acknowledge the hypocrisy.

In the end, the debates would be disastrous for our side.  And that is a fact.
 
2020-08-07 9:29:51 AM  

mrmopar5287: Excelsior: Biden had to think for a few seconds before giving a well-though out response to a question

Biden is mentally incapable of giving any coherent response to a question. He doesn't know where he is at on any given day. The past day's debacle where he called a black journalist a "cocaine junkie" and was verbally stumbling all over the place, losing his train of thought, inappropriately laughing (pseudobulbar affect), etc.

Democrats are in a sheer panic. Biden cannot handle 90 minutes of a debate. He is mentally incapable of doing it, and it frightens them.


Dumbest thing I've read today, and it's only 8:30am.
 
2020-08-07 9:43:02 AM  

durbnpoisn: Biden is not that great in q/a on his feet.  He stammers.  He says things he has to clarify later.


You can just admit that he's senile and incompetent. This isn't a good thing when the best your candidate can do when challenged is forget what he said two months ago, insist the opposite now, and then insult the person asking the question while laughing uncontrollably. It's also the second time in a month that Biden's team has to craft a series of Tweets (you can tell it isn't Biden because of the complete sentences) apologizing for blatant racism.

It's a constant "Cleanup on aisle Joe" after any time he goes on TV.

I'm looking forward to this man being in a debate. I would even go so far as to predict that Democrats might try to pull a hail mary by replacing Biden on the ticket before the election. Biden is going to be a blathering mess on live primetime TV.
 
2020-08-07 9:48:39 AM  

MegaLib: They should cancel the debates because of the pandemic.


Not only that, but because trump is a pathological liar.  Biden should refuse to debate unless it is agree there will be realtime fact checking AND that the Big Twit releases 10 years of tax returns.

Then Biden should run a series of adds where he is debating a cardboard cutout of the Big Twit with statements made over time (hint, Yosemite and Thailand, drinking bleach, etc.) and Biden telling him what an idiot he is.

I see no benefit for Biden having to try to whack a mole or kill multiplying lies.
 
2020-08-07 9:50:30 AM  

mrmopar5287: durbnpoisn: Biden is not that great in q/a on his feet.  He stammers.  He says things he has to clarify later.

You can just admit that he's senile and incompetent. This isn't a good thing when the best your candidate can do when challenged is forget what he said two months ago, insist the opposite now, and then insult the person asking the question while laughing uncontrollably. It's also the second time in a month that Biden's team has to craft a series of Tweets (you can tell it isn't Biden because of the complete sentences) apologizing for blatant racism.

It's a constant "Cleanup on aisle Joe" after any time he goes on TV.

I'm looking forward to this man being in a debate. I would even go so far as to predict that Democrats might try to pull a hail mary by replacing Biden on the ticket before the election. Biden is going to be a blathering mess on live primetime TV.


I do not know you, or where you stand in your support of Trump.  But I will make an immediate whataboutism here.

Trump is WAY worse.  Since we know this to be the case, we know that NO ONE is using that for the criteria for who should be President.  If it were, you couldn't vote for Trump either.

You cannot accuse Biden of those things, and make that your reason to not vote for him, but then vote for Trump - who, as I said, is FAR worse.  And he's has proven as much.

So, in my view, any arguments about Biden's senility or incompetence should immediately be tossed aside.

This is an obvious attempt to make Biden out to be something that he is not.  To clarify, even if his faculties are on their way out, he is a good person, and he will surround himself with goo, competent people.  And he will choose a Veep who is at least as good a person - and can handle the job if something were to cause him to step down.
These are all things that separate Biden from Trump by a gigantic wide trench.
 
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