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2020-08-06 10:55:03 AM  
"Make it expensive"
 
2020-08-06 10:59:05 AM  
"Just steal it"
 
2020-08-06 10:59:17 AM  
I just posted this in the other thread below, but HERE.

A now relative-by-marriage has worked for Apple for years. We got into a discussion about consumerism (a very short discussion, because nobody lasts long), and he's telling me how Apple recycles all its stuff, and how they make things out of recycled products, etc etc.

I said, I don't care. They advertise like crazy, they invented a product that is obsolescent in a year, breaks easily, has a very prominent Brand, so that you must buy APPLE and nothing else (all of its stuff is proprietary, I notice), and since they make a ton of profits, it goes without saying that they are exploiting resources and people to make money for the higher ups, and they're very good at it. Not everyone will go to the devious lengths that Apple and other huge companies will go to, to make bank. Other people and companies have ethics.

Do they use any of their profits to pay off say, miners in South Africa who mine all those rare minerals they use? Do they use any of their profits to make products that will last for years, and not months? Do they make their products in the US, and pay US wages for products that will mostly be sold in the US? Hahahahaa, of course not.

So that was the end of that conversation.

/And I totally left out the data harvesting--Apple has always been in the forefront of that, too. Yeah, they totally respect your privacy--except for everything they know about you. Now tell your apple smartspeaker how secure you feel with her in charge. You idiot.
 
2020-08-06 10:59:43 AM  
Privacy ha
 
2020-08-06 11:00:14 AM  
"Screw the customer"
 
2020-08-06 11:03:46 AM  
Wow, that article was fellatio of the highest order.
 
2020-08-06 11:04:22 AM  
Apple is a monster success because Jobs intuitively understood a basic truth about humanity that was so neatly summed up by ol'  H.L:  "No one in this world, so far as I know ... has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."
 
2020-08-06 11:09:44 AM  
Will it sell?
Jobs hated it?
Shorter battery life?
Manufacturer suicide rates?
Double Dutch taxation?
Good Google feature?
Just do it?
 
2020-08-06 11:10:07 AM  
add more dongles
 
2020-08-06 11:10:51 AM  

Marcos P: Privacy ha


He elided the 'forgets'
 
2020-08-06 11:13:41 AM  
In a former life, I was a product designer. For this reason, I do respect what Apple tries to do with their products. And others believe in it too, which is a huge reason they're so successful. But that article is some straight up hogwash. Apple doesn't care about your privacy; they care to keep you as a customer.

CSB: My brother is a very successful design director in California. His first design meeting when working with Apple was on the topic of sentence periods used in advertising - when and where to use them and not. He said the meeting - about the use of periods - lasted two hours. He knew right then that this wasn't the place for him. He moved on within a year or so.
 
2020-08-06 11:21:41 AM  

slantsix: In a former life, I was a product designer. For this reason, I do respect what Apple tries to do with their products. And others believe in it too, which is a huge reason they're so successful. But that article is some straight up hogwash. Apple doesn't care about your privacy; they care to keep you as a customer.

CSB: My brother is a very successful design director in California. His first design meeting when working with Apple was on the topic of sentence periods used in advertising - when and where to use them and not. He said the meeting - about the use of periods - lasted two hours. He knew right then that this wasn't the place for him. He moved on within a year or so.


Why do I suddenly suspect Fark hired a former Apple advertising person to set up the headline templates
 
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2020-08-06 11:37:23 AM  
Drink your Ovaltine
 
2020-08-06 11:50:31 AM  

cryinoutloud: I just posted this in the other thread below, but HERE.

A now relative-by-marriage has worked for Apple for years. We got into a discussion about consumerism (a very short discussion, because nobody lasts long), and he's telling me how Apple recycles all its stuff, and how they make things out of recycled products, etc etc.

I said, I don't care. They advertise like crazy, they invented a product that is obsolescent in a year, breaks easily, has a very prominent Brand, so that you must buy APPLE and nothing else (all of its stuff is proprietary, I notice), and since they make a ton of profits, it goes without saying that they are exploiting resources and people to make money for the higher ups, and they're very good at it. Not everyone will go to the devious lengths that Apple and other huge companies will go to, to make bank. Other people and companies have ethics.

Do they use any of their profits to pay off say, miners in South Africa who mine all those rare minerals they use? Do they use any of their profits to make products that will last for years, and not months? Do they make their products in the US, and pay US wages for products that will mostly be sold in the US? Hahahahaa, of course not.

So that was the end of that conversation.

/And I totally left out the data harvesting--Apple has always been in the forefront of that, too. Yeah, they totally respect your privacy--except for everything they know about you. Now tell your apple smartspeaker how secure you feel with her in charge. You idiot.


I'm reading this on an iPhone that's about to turn 3 years old and is still going strong. Both of my MBPs lasted about 7 years. But sure, Apple products only last months.

Also, I guess this answers the question of if you were serious or not when you were complaining about liberals "and their fancy vans" spreading coronavirus into your town.
 
2020-08-06 11:51:49 AM  
Hookers and blow?
 
2020-08-06 12:11:23 PM  
Fleece the rubes!

/am I doing this right?
 
2020-08-06 12:38:46 PM  
Does it do?
 
2020-08-06 12:42:16 PM  

Fireproof: I'm reading this on an iPhone that's about to turn 3 years old and is still going strong. Both of my MBPs lasted about 7 years. But sure, Apple products only last months.
Also, I guess this answers the question of if you were serious or not when you were complaining about liberals "and their fancy vans" spreading coronavirus into your town.


Maybe they did. But didn't Apple used to introduce a new product every year, at least? Yeah, those iphone numbers just went up and up each year, and each year people stood in line to get them. Do you think I don't remember that? Apple is the king of mindless consumerism. They invented some aspects of becoming a Brand, instead of a good product--which they are OK products, but so what? In the land of consumerism, even the best products are soon disposable, just like they're supposed to be.

I guess you don't feel like addressing any of that. Like you don't feel like addressing when I said that the tourists were growing covid cases around here like crazy, since they all have their fancy vans now, and they HAVE to use them. We're all sporting people now, that's why we all have vehicles that look like we're going to South America for a year, instead of to Starbucks. And if you buy it, you must use it. NOT buying something is just........well, why? Why would anyone do this?

Cherry picking doesn't make you smarter, it just makes you look dumb if I come back. I remember what I post, and I write clearly. You're just so addled by advertising and being a vapid consumer that you can't see any of this.

I don't give a shiat if you see it or not, it's not just my opinion. These are fully-developed BUSINESS MODELS that have been used for years on dumbasses just like you. So you got a good product that worked--whoopee. That used to be the standard. Now you have to brag because your product is still around after a couple of years.

And I bet you really care about the environment too, while you're blowing $50,000 a year on disposable entertainment. Such is our culture, and you're the victim. And you have the nerve to badmouth me. Ha. You're the one who can't examine yourself or our deeply disturbing culture deeply.
We're going to DIE because of this kind of ignorance. That's also a scientific fact. Go look it up.
 
2020-08-06 12:48:04 PM  
Sell more dongles.
 
2020-08-06 1:44:01 PM  

cryinoutloud: Fireproof: I'm reading this on an iPhone that's about to turn 3 years old and is still going strong. Both of my MBPs lasted about 7 years. But sure, Apple products only last months.
Also, I guess this answers the question of if you were serious or not when you were complaining about liberals "and their fancy vans" spreading coronavirus into your town.

Maybe they did. But didn't Apple used to introduce a new product every year, at least? Yeah, those iphone numbers just went up and up each year, and each year people stood in line to get them. Do you think I don't remember that? Apple is the king of mindless consumerism. They invented some aspects of becoming a Brand, instead of a good product--which they are OK products, but so what? In the land of consumerism, even the best products are soon disposable, just like they're supposed to be.

I guess you don't feel like addressing any of that. Like you don't feel like addressing when I said that the tourists were growing covid cases around here like crazy, since they all have their fancy vans now, and they HAVE to use them. We're all sporting people now, that's why we all have vehicles that look like we're going to South America for a year, instead of to Starbucks. And if you buy it, you must use it. NOT buying something is just........well, why? Why would anyone do this?

Cherry picking doesn't make you smarter, it just makes you look dumb if I come back. I remember what I post, and I write clearly. You're just so addled by advertising and being a vapid consumer that you can't see any of this.

I don't give a shiat if you see it or not, it's not just my opinion. These are fully-developed BUSINESS MODELS that have been used for years on dumbasses just like you. So you got a good product that worked--whoopee. That used to be the standard. Now you have to brag because your product is still around after a couple of years.

And I bet you really care about the environment too, while you're blowing $50,000 a year on disposable entertainment. Such is our culture, and you're the victim. And you have the nerve to badmouth me. Ha. You're the one who can't examine yourself or our deeply disturbing culture deeply.
We're going to DIE because of this kind of ignorance. That's also a scientific fact. Go look it up.


Wait, wrap your mind around this: Maybe I wasn't cherrypicking. Maybe I was only taking issue with that one particular part of you post.

Now go write another pagelong, unhinged butthurt screed about that, and whatever stupid assumptions you can extrapolate from it this time around. Be sure to immediately "smart" it with both of your alts.
 
2020-08-06 6:27:30 PM  
Either an app or device or service respects your privacy, or it doesn't. If it requires you to hand over personal information or give up your location, or if it tracks everything you do online, it doesn't respect your privacy.

And I don't care. If that's the price of getting Android and all the Google services, I'll take it. It's not like someone at Google is rifling through your history for fun. This is about algorithms changing the ads you get. On Apple stuff, you still get the ads.

At the same time, a device is either built with encryption and security protection, or it isn't. If it has a back door, it isn't secure, a point Apple has made on more than one occasion.

Where are the backdoors in Android? And look up which is actually the worst OS in hacker tests out of Windows, Linux and OSX. Chrome has less holes than Safari.

Finally, quality is something that Apple has long stood for, not just in terms of its products, but the overall experience. It's one of the main reasons people buy Macs. Sure, they're more expensive, but they're also just better. They look better, they feel better, and they work better.

I don't particularly agree with this any longer. My general feeling with Apple is that it's jewellery now. You've got a member of your family that is PC clueless, get them a Chromebook. You need power, you'll get more for your money from a high end PC than an MBP with the same sort of build quality, and it'll be cheaper to repair and keep running software for years. I consider phones as disposable products that have largely hit their plateau. £200 Droids do everything I want, not a long-term investment.
 
2020-08-06 8:18:02 PM  
"What, me worry?"
 
2020-08-06 9:17:51 PM  

Fireproof: cryinoutloud: I just posted this in the other thread below, but HERE.

A now relative-by-marriage has worked for Apple for years. We got into a discussion about consumerism (a very short discussion, because nobody lasts long), and he's telling me how Apple recycles all its stuff, and how they make things out of recycled products, etc etc.

I said, I don't care. They advertise like crazy, they invented a product that is obsolescent in a year, breaks easily, has a very prominent Brand, so that you must buy APPLE and nothing else (all of its stuff is proprietary, I notice), and since they make a ton of profits, it goes without saying that they are exploiting resources and people to make money for the higher ups, and they're very good at it. Not everyone will go to the devious lengths that Apple and other huge companies will go to, to make bank. Other people and companies have ethics.

Do they use any of their profits to pay off say, miners in South Africa who mine all those rare minerals they use? Do they use any of their profits to make products that will last for years, and not months? Do they make their products in the US, and pay US wages for products that will mostly be sold in the US? Hahahahaa, of course not.

So that was the end of that conversation.

/And I totally left out the data harvesting--Apple has always been in the forefront of that, too. Yeah, they totally respect your privacy--except for everything they know about you. Now tell your apple smartspeaker how secure you feel with her in charge. You idiot.

I'm reading this on an iPhone that's about to turn 3 years old and is still going strong. Both of my MBPs lasted about 7 years. But sure, Apple products only last months.

Also, I guess this answers the question of if you were serious or not when you were complaining about liberals "and their fancy vans" spreading coronavirus into your town.


She has no idea what she is talking about.
 
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